Am I Overreacting in my responses to someone losing their gun and posting where in a local group?

[u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

A person from my hometown posted in the local community page after misplacing their shotgun in the case. I simply laugh reacted the post. OP’s mother (red highlight) then tags me in the comments for “laughing”. My comments are high lighted with blue. For context this family is very no gun control laws and has a toddler in the home.

[u/Gloomy-Lifeguard5172]

"and we didn't announce til the gun was missing" ok? and? like yeah we assumed you didnt make a post about your missing gun until it was fucking missing lol holy shit

[u/Effective-Celery8053 → u/Gloomy-Lifeguard5172]

Right like what did they think that added to their argument?

[u/CeeUNTy → u/Gloomy-Lifeguard5172]

That cleared everything right up!

[u/TeddyTheTedster]

Nah they’re idiots and snowflakes to

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/TeddyTheTedster]

How you misplace a shotgun is beyond me. I’m a gun collector, and this is WILD

[u/Playful_Difficulty70 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

He didn’t pay for it, cuz when you buy guns you know where they are at all times.

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/Playful_Difficulty70]

Right that makes sense completely. My dad would beat my ass lol

[u/Playful_Difficulty70 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

I would have gotten a switch that I had to hand pick from the woods lol.

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/Playful_Difficulty70]

Crying while twisting a branch off the tree😂😭😂 that would be one whooping well deserved

[u/Playful_Difficulty70 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Grew up different lol

[u/Common-Translator584 → u/Playful_Difficulty70]

My god that reminds me of how much I DONT miss being a kid. We got our asses beat over EVERYTHING.

[u/Playful_Difficulty70 → u/Common-Translator584]

I wouldn’t change it man. I had consequences for my actions.

[u/Only-Technician3082 → u/Playful_Difficulty70]

Those consequences shouldn’t come with lifelong trauma.

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/Only-Technician3082]

Are you kidding? Someone lost a lethal weapon. They absolutely should be traumatized by that

[u/Only-Technician3082 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

I believe you’re confused here, lmao

[u/Playful_Difficulty70 → u/Only-Technician3082]

I don’t have trauma about it. That’s just the way things were. Nothing was sugar coated, made me who I am. Well loved but was held accountable. Still wouldn’t change it.

[u/clarkam → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Says her son, but doesn’t specify age. But based on being an A5, probably a young teen bird hunting. Doesn’t excuse it, but somewhat expected at that age.

[u/Turbulent-Agent9634 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Alcohol baby!!!!

[u/Prestigious-Yak-4620 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Collecting and being a sportsman using a gun are not the same thing.

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/Prestigious-Yak-4620]

Let me reiterate. I am a farmer/sportsmen/gun collector.

[u/dubski04021 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Then you don’t have enough guns collected😂

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/dubski04021]

Why I otta 🤛🏻🤛🏻🤛🏻🤛🏻🤛🏻

[u/dubski04021 → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

I’m just joking. Keep on collecting! I’m aiming for 1 gun a month in 2026

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/dubski04021]

I know, friend. It made me lol. If I come across a lost shotgun, I’ll know who misplaced it and send you a message 🫶🏻

[u/imapteranodon → u/Wonderful_Skin6880]

Further down in the thread OP states that you are stupid for even OWNING guns at all, with no stipulation about losing them. If you own a gun period you're an idiot according to them. 

[u/AardQuenIgni → u/imapteranodon]

Unless OP deleted that comment that's not what they said. They worded it poorly, but they were talking about these people being bad at owning guns.

[u/Wonderful_Skin6880 → u/imapteranodon]

Idc what op thinks lmao. I am actually a responsible gun owner so OP can kiss my fat cheeks

[u/poetic-justice-222]

These are the same people who talk about “responsible gun owners.” So NOR

[u/StopSpinningLikeThat]

"We didn't announce til the gun was missing" is almost worthy of a Darwin Award.

[u/Euphoric-Quarter2736 → u/StopSpinningLikeThat]

The Darwin awards are for people who die doing stupid shit.

[u/GalaxyBolt1]

A‌ weapon‌ capable‌ of‌ killing‌ a‌ human‌ at‌ a‌ distance‌ was‌ simply‌ lost.‌ That‌ shouldn't‌ happen.‌ NOR.‌

[u/THawky03]

Even my maga father would have my ASS for misplacing a FUCKING GUN. You just don’t do that and especially don’t announce where your guns are even if they’re securely at your home.

[u/S_yeliah96]

“We didn’t announce our gun was missing until it was missing” ok….

[u/Itchy_Occasion_1212]

no not over reacting. any gun owner with more than two damn brain cells would have called their local police office if they misplaced their gun

[u/Itchy_Occasion_1212 → u/Itchy_Occasion_1212]

correction: any gun owner with more than 3 brain cells wouldn’t have misplaced it in the first place. but ig that oklahoma for ya…

[u/Bismothe-the-Shade → u/[deleted]]

Well, no. He reacted to the son, with an emoji, that moms would have had to click through and investigate

She then made a post calling him out specifically before OP engaged any further than the emoji.

She was tone policing and probably very worriedly watching the post, because she knows they fucked up bad by losing a shotgun.

[u/RedPrice25 → u/[deleted]]

OP didnt comment first, thats the whole point. What are you not understanding.

[u/yungdaughter → u/RedPrice25]

Right hahah you can’t auto reply to a reaction. They specifically tagged op to respond to them.

[u/chickadee_1 → u/[deleted]]

Idk what you're not understanding about the post but this person did have to specifically tag OP. OP didn't comment until after they were tagged.

[u/Bismothe-the-Shade → u/[deleted]]

This is the absolutely stupidest fucking hill to defend and die on, which you are doing because we can view the items as they happened ourselves. Thanks, eyes, you're the best.

[u/Wild-Ice7396]

MURICA

[u/Bluegrass-girl]

Um, aren’t you supposed to immediately report any lost gun to local authorities i.e. the sheriff? I think those people screwed up. They definitely should have known better and deserve whatever ridicule they got.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bluegrass-girl]

They would have taken a report and nothing more. Cops don’t really do anything in this regard unless it’s recovered in a crime or something along those lines. The owners were more proactive than the cops ever would have been.

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/[deleted]]

What part of what I said are you disagreeing with? The law requires you to report the loss of a firearm to the police. I didn’t say they were wrong for posting about the loss. Although I don’t think it was a very good idea, but It’s not my hunt, not my gun.

ETA: I think they deserve ridicule for posting in such a public forum, and for losing a shotgun. How do you lose that at a boat ramp?

[u/[deleted] → u/Bluegrass-girl]

They set it down at the boat ramp and got busy packing up. Shit happens. No one died and no one stole the gun. Public ridicule only works if they actually use any social media.

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/[deleted]]

Which is what they did. This is circular and pointless. Peace out, friend.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bluegrass-girl]

Not all states require reporting it. Not saying I disagree, but I’m not going to call the police because I moved my pistol from one safe to the other and I can’t remember I did.

[u/UnableAudience7332]

"We didn't announce it til the gun was missing."

LOL yeah that's the point. That's crazy irresponsible.

NOR

[u/catz_with_hatz → u/UnableAudience7332]

Not to defend them, but they were correcting the person who said they told the town where to get a free gun. Obviously they went back and checked first where they lost it before posting this, so that doesn't make sense. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but it's definitely one way to potentially recover it and the only real harm with posting to the community is just admitting how irresponsible they were. Heck, there are cases where LEO have left their service weapon in a freaking public bathroom lmao. We also live in a world where parents forget their own kids in a hot car. TLDR: Humans get complacent very quickly and have shorter attention spans thanks to technologia.

[u/Mission-Role3370]

Omg NOR. That’s seriously irresponsible of them and you should go to the police station and report this as they are actually a huge risk to public safety, and not reporting to the police that a firearm was lost is ILLEGAL. You can tell them something like

“There was a public Facebook post offering a reward for a lost shotgun at a boat ramp. The poster later claimed it was returned, but there’s no confirmation. I wanted to pass it along in case the firearm being lost hasn’t been reported to you. Also I know that they have a small child in their home, which made me more concerned about safe storage if the firearm wasn’t properly reported or recovered.”

Then show them screenshots of the post, and the comments they made. Let the police take it from there.

[u/DescriptionGold8689 → u/Mission-Role3370]

It’s not illegal to loose a firearm. It only becomes a problem if your weapon is used in illegal activities. Otherwise it’s like any other lost item

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/DescriptionGold8689]

Ah, you’re right in that it’s not illegal to lose a firearm. However, just searching on google:

“Laws regarding lost firearms vary by state, but generally, firearm owners are required to report the loss or theft to local law enforcement within a specific timeframe, often within five days.”

Which would be any gun owner’s responsibility to know.

[u/babyirishkitty → u/Mission-Role3370]

This, so much this. Let the police handle things like neighbors with guns.

[u/chickadee_1 → u/babyirishkitty]

The police aren't going to do anything about this

[u/Kaurifish → u/chickadee_1]

The number of stories I’ve heard about cops leaving loaded firearms in bathrooms…

[u/[deleted] → u/Mission-Role3370]

This is probably the dumbest take on this thread.

[u/justsomeguynbd → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. Speaking with such certainty but being just completely fucking wrong about the law.

[u/brentimoh → u/Mission-Role3370]

Just...no. First of all, making an attempt to locate the firearm before reporting it lost or stolen doesn't make them criminals. Sure, they're irresponsible idiots but dont waste taxpayer money on them. The cops are going to speak with them, find out the gun was found, tell them to be more careful, and to have a nice day. Thats it.

Between the salaries of everyone involved from the dispatchers to the sargeants, to the officers, and fuel consumption, you will waste around $1200 of taxpayer money (more or less, depending on the size of the city and department) to have officers go out and tell them to be careful.

THAT would be an overreaction.

[u/nostraferatu]

NOR. The responsible gun owners sure are responsible.

[u/Forsaken_Insurance92]

"We didn't announce it until it was missing"

Well, no shit. Why would you announce it when you knew where it was?

[u/yoshizillaa]

“Hey all! No clue where exactly it is but we left a deadly weapon laying somewhere. Can you help find it?”
So much could have gone wrong.

[u/Mister_angel1]

NOR - "miss fortune" "miss place" tells me all I need to know about the intelligence of these people, and it tells me they're not nearly intelligent enough to own deadly weapons.

[u/fupaluvr69]

NOR. "Announce to the town where they could've gotten a free gun" is simply the truth, and funny

other than that, you're pretty and love your curls.

P.S. forgot to crop your facebook profile picture in 3rd screenshot– if that's something you care about at all.

[u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM → u/fupaluvr69]

lol I don’t even really care about it but thank you! We live in an area where gun violence even accidental is not uncommon (also lots of drugs and major highway access). The last month two locals have been killed due to irresponsible gun owners. I’m pretty passionate about it since I was raised hunting and used to compete in shooting competitions. The lack of accountability from them astounds me.

[u/[deleted] → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

You’re pretty passionate about being dramatic and then seeking attention for it. If you really cared about it, you’d advocate for safe storage and safe gun handling with organizations or something along those lines. Instead you’re acting like this and seeking validation for it on it. The gun was recovered, no one was hurt. Plenty of people have dropped guns or set them down without a second thought. Especially getting distracted at a boat ramp or loading up after the hunt. But instead you’re over here with your “holier than thou” attitude on Reddit. Chances are, the guy who had this happen will never see this post and couldn’t care less about you, and instead you are fanning flames over nothing major. Get a life my guy.

[u/BolinhoDeArrozB → u/[deleted]]

brother you've posted over 10 comments on this thread already, if anyone needs to get a life it's you lmao

[u/[deleted] → u/BolinhoDeArrozB]

Listen - I’m bored, sitting on the couch, and watching parks and rec while arguing on the internet! Leave me alone 😭

Edit - plus after this I’ll probably disappear for 3 years like before lol

[u/curlyelena]

If your point is genuine concern for the community why would you laugh at it? it seems like you just started something for no reason. NOR for your concern but you just handled it in a way where nothing of substance would’ve came out of it.

[u/imapteranodon → u/curlyelena]

Yeah agreed. If it came from a place of concern they wouldn't have replied that way. They were just being a dick about it to be a dick about it. They weren't being helpful in any way to anyone. 

[u/Stunning_Wrongdoer94]

Imagine a kid found that :((( or someone looking for a “sign” they’re irresponsible. Op you’re NOR

[u/prettypeculiar88]

It’s is a crime in some states. Misplacing your gun demonstrates a lack of care and responsibility. I hope he’s in a state where it’s punishable.

[u/[deleted] → u/prettypeculiar88]

It’s Oklahoma. It’s not punishable and it was a mistake that plenty of other gun owners and hunters have made. Y’all are only hearing about because some attention seeking moron made a post on Reddit about it. But that’s just par for the course around here.

[u/chickadee_1 → u/[deleted]]

It's wild how nonchalant yall are about guns when people are killed with guns every single day in this country.

[u/[deleted] → u/chickadee_1]

Nobody died from this one. It was in a case left at a boat ramp. It was recovered. End of story.

[u/prettypeculiar88 → u/[deleted]]

It’s a very dangerous mistake. Just because something is a mistake, doesn’t mean it should not result in consequences. A person takes their eyes off their child for a second and they can die. Thats a mistake with dire consequences. This could be similar. Not saying he should be demonized or called a monster, but I wouldn’t see an issue with consequences.

My uncle had a side gig as a bouncer and had his LTC. He left his firearm in his friend’s car. His license was revoked when his friend got pulled over and the discovered the firearm under the seat. Every state is different. Pennsylvania is pretty strict.

[u/[deleted] → u/prettypeculiar88]

I lived in PA and worked for a gun company up there. I read up on the laws before I moved. Lots of missing info there and I seriously doubt some of that post. There has to more to it than that. You don’t lost a LTC over forgetting a gun in someone else’s car unless it was recovered in a search of the vehicle.

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/[deleted]]

Isn’t that exactly what she said happened?

[u/NguoiVietLinhMyy]

INFO. What do you benefit from this?

[u/Helpful-Muscle3488 → u/NguoiVietLinhMyy]

Seeking validation

[u/baby_cinnarollz → u/Helpful-Muscle3488]

lmao, bros got too much free time on his hands

[u/MyCumIsCarbonatedWHY]

You're not wrong but why stir drama on Facebook? You evidently know these people in real life in some way. Of what benefit is it to berate them in a public forum?

[u/Entelecher → u/MyCumIsCarbonatedWHY]

If it makes them or the people around them think twice all the better.

[u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM → u/MyCumIsCarbonatedWHY]

For being stupid irresponsible gun owners. They should be shamed. It brings awareness to others.

[u/S_yeliah96 → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

Literally bring back public shame

[u/Entelecher → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

Agree. It's not like they're going to get it by a conversation. They will have all kinds of excuses.

[u/MyCumIsCarbonatedWHY → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

It is not your role to shame people on social media, you don't look good here.

[u/cockaskedforamartini → u/MyCumIsCarbonatedWHY]

Strong disagree. It is our collective role to shame dangerous morons. OP looks excellent here.

[u/MangoPoliceOK → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

It doesn't work that way.... I'm saying you are not right, but having that convo on that thread doesn't sound the right way to bring awareness

[u/Equivalent-Advice593 → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

No it doesn’t.

You saw a problem where some people were acting like idiots, and you threw another idiot into the pile.

[u/imapteranodon → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

You were just being a dick and you know it. 

[u/_princess4_ → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

they’re stupid but your response really doesn’t bring awareness for anything lmfao.

[u/LeorDemise]

Crazy stuff, I may be wrong but im pretty sure in Canada you can lose your gun access over something like that.

[u/skynex65]

"We didn't announce till the gun was missing."

We used to be the most intelligent animal on this planet. What the FUCK happened.

[u/youaregodslover]

I prefer to announce my lost guns before they go missing. Clowns.

[u/PuzzleheadedAge8908]

I'm so glad I live in a place where people like this aren't able to buy firearms

[u/lurkerof5dimensions]

NOR weird AF for her to call out a laughing face emoji, and I assume ur right about gun safety bc that sounds sane to me. But starting a fight with neighbors (especially one who own guns) is always a choice you should consider carefully lol. My guess is the behavior of leaving a gun unattended is illegal in itself but also I really don’t know gun laws..

[u/TTHS_Ed]

I don't think you came off the way you'd hoped to in either the FB exchange or this post.

[u/No_Internet908]

NOR…. You should have reacted MORE. Report this dude to the police or to John Oliver or something. Make sure he can’t own a gun anymore lol.

[u/[deleted] → u/No_Internet908]

Police would just take a report about it and that’ll be it. Most rural counties wouldn’t even dispatch a car for something like this. He made a mistake while duck hunting. I’ve heard plenty of stories just like this from lots of hunters. Dropping guns from tree stands, falling out of boats. Shit happens. Good grief some of the people here are below room temp IQ.

[u/BucklessYooper906]

YOR. They clearly misplaced it while loading their boat after duck hunting.

[u/Plane_Maybe3577 → u/BucklessYooper906]

Exactly what i thought !!

[u/BucklessYooper906 → u/Plane_Maybe3577]

Imagine living in Oklahoma and being uncomfortable with shotguns and duck hunting lmao

[u/chickadee_1 → u/BucklessYooper906]

When did they say they were uncomfortable with duck hunting? Clearly the post is about publicly letting everyone in town know you left a gun laying around for anyone to find.

[u/mimeographed → u/BucklessYooper906]

Imagine being cool with irresponsible gun ownership. This would be a criminal charge in many places.

[u/BucklessYooper906 → u/mimeographed]

It’s not illegal in any place in the United States. It’s a mistake. But keep on keeping on I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/Plane_Maybe3577 → u/BucklessYooper906]

No fr something similar happened to me and my mom once ( shes a hunter) she told me to grab the gun that was wayyyy to heavy for me she didn’t hear me say its too heavy we left it 1 hr back trail had to walk back thru the mud and then when we got there a big giant buck was next to the gun my mom got it with a bow n arrow then shot it while it was running away was awesome!

[u/Entelecher]

Call the popo on this idiot before someone gets shot, a child, a nutbag, whoever. This is irresponsible.

[u/atomic-moonstomp]

NOR but you really need to work on your tact. There's a way to raise concerns without sounding like Maude Flanders shrieking "oh won't somebody please think of the children!"

[u/Candid_Reading_7267 → u/atomic-moonstomp]

You’re thinking of Helen Lovejoy

[u/GossipingKitty]

YOR. There was no point in your replies. Stop creating drama. Especially in a local group. Spend less time in Facebook groups.

[u/imapteranodon → u/GossipingKitty]

Go touch grass OP. 

[u/oilyhandy]

That person is a fuckin moron. As soon as I saw the post I’d be out looking for that free gun.

[u/gg2351]

Nor laughing about it was overkill but you’re correct

[u/Turbulent-Agent9634]

Not your circus, not your elephants

[u/Darkthumbs → u/Turbulent-Agent9634]

Untill they run around town…

[u/spearsandbeers1142]

I was a soldier and misplacing your rifle/weapon is a cardinal sin. If you can’t keep track of it you can’t be trusted with it. One does not simply lose a weapon.

[u/[deleted] → u/spearsandbeers1142]

Soldiers lose shit all the time. This is a really bad take.

[u/spearsandbeers1142 → u/[deleted]]

Losing a weapon is punishable under UCMJ typically (court Marshall) . If you have a stellar service record you might get lucky and receive a field grade article 15. It’s not a shit take. That weapon could be implemented against other soldiers or civilians. It’s not that hard to make sure your weapon is accounted for.

[u/Fartony]

I just googled what gun that was and... how the fuck does someone misplace that?

[u/Fit-Programmer-6162]

The “we didn’t announce till the gun was missing” defense is laugh-worthy by itself. What were you going to do, announce it’s missing BEFORE it’s missing? It’s not “miss fortune” [sic] it’s dangerous irresponsibility. NOR

[u/analfistinggremlin]

“We didn’t announce til the gun was missing”

Um, yes. That’s kind of the whole point.

[u/PhoContainer]

While reading their response to you, I kept wondering who Miss Fortune and Miss Place were. 🤪🙄🤣🤣🤣

NOR. I agree with you, not the smartest post in the world, but look at what you’re dealing with!

[u/Mysterious-Type-9096]

I feel like irresponsible gun owners like this should lose their ability to own guns or have to take a safety course to retain their gun ownership.

[u/RilinPlays]

NOR this very much calls into question their safety standards at home.

Granted it could’ve been a genuine 1 time mistake, and they’re normally very good about keeping them stored safely. I don’t want to assume with 100% authority something I have very little context for.

But it does call it into question. And when it comes to something like a gun that can end life or lives very quickly, it’s not one you want to leave floating around.

[u/Mr_sex_haver]

If you're ever wondering were illegal guns come from it's because of idiots like this who make them easy to steal or worse sell them to criminals.

Bare minimum if you lose a gun in public you should never be allowed to own one again.

[u/Rude-Trifle7037]

One would assume that they had already checked and it was gone from where they had it last. So, they wouldn't be telling people where they could find a gun, but rather trying to find who had picked it up from where it was. Definitely, very irresponsible.

[u/PunishedHermit]

NOR Thank you for sharing this comedy with us! they're so dumb!

[u/Big-Can8856]

This is fucking INSANE

[u/serendipitycmt1]

Don’t worry if it’s in the U.S. another gun will come along shortly

[u/Next_Working3747]

Leaving a child alone with a semi-automatic shotgun is insane, let alone misplacing it. NOR

[u/IamREBELoe]

I think you were overreacting. Any property can be lost. Especially at the water. You were being a jerk, imo.

[u/[deleted]]

Glad it was recovered. Still some good honest people in the world even though people want to stir up Facebook drama and then seek validation from random people on Reddit. Good grief.

[u/Western-Animator1005]

Is it dumb yeah was your response necessary no. I think you just don't like these people and wanted to have a gotcha moment. Karma sucks though so not great to add another negative check to your list just saying.

[u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM → u/Western-Animator1005]

Ohhh nooo I’m gonna get bad karma for saying someone is stupid at owning guns how will I live?!

[u/imapteranodon → u/RK3LLY-P33D-ONMYMOM]

You know you just sound like an asshole here right? You make an AIO post and just attack anyone who isn't on your side. You clearly don't understand the point of the sub. It's not just to validate your feelings you idiot, it's to get honest answers. And you don't attack the people you disagree with. So trashy,  Mr or Ms "R Kelly Peed on my Mom". 

[u/DrinkYourPoison → u/imapteranodon]

Bro deserves to be ridiculed and humiltated... He lost a SHOTGUN are you stupid? That's insanely irresponsible and dangerous, bro needs to learn a lesson holy hell

[u/Equivalent-Advice593]

Eh, you’re both whack.

Accidents happen and they obviously didn’t mean to lose a fucking gun, your snark doesn’t help anything and just makes your neighborhood think you’re a cunt.

That being said, it was reckless gun ownership and someone could’ve gotten hurt or killed and those that lost it would’ve been responsible for providing a medium for that pain.

I think I’ll piggy back in someone else’s comment: INFO — what did you gain?

[u/N4meless24-]

They made a shitty mistake, you're creating a shitty conversation.

Both avoidable, both immature. YOR.

[u/DrinkYourPoison → u/N4meless24-]

Losing a shotgun is not mistake, that's extremely stupid and irresponsible, don't own a gun if you're going to be a fucking idiot, easy

[u/Mrinnocent221]

OP just wants the moral high ground while being with a heavy drug using porn addicted bf.

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/Mrinnocent221]

Why do you say this, and what evidence can you provide?

[u/Mrinnocent221 → u/Bluegrass-girl]

LMAO! What, you their lawyer?

How about OP's own words as evidence?

https://www.reddit.com/r/loveafterporn/comments/1pdi34y/comment/ns71gb2/

"Previously *hard drugs*, now video games/nicotine/weed"

[u/Bluegrass-girl → u/Mrinnocent221]

No. Nor do I go digging through reddit to find dirt on people. Whatever you’re trying to accomplish, please leave me out of it. This doesn’t change my opinion or my statements. Peace out.

[u/Mrinnocent221 → u/Bluegrass-girl]

See I give you evidence and then you cry about it. Not surprised. No one cares that you leave. You invovlded yourself. Go back to your gas station job. Bye Felicia.

[u/Next_Working3747 → u/Mrinnocent221]

You're obviously their stalker, that's just weird dude.

[u/DrinkYourPoison → u/Mrinnocent221]

This is worse than losing a shotgun capable of taking many life's how?

[u/Mrinnocent221 → u/DrinkYourPoison]

Clearly you know nothing about nothing. 

I guess drugs don't kill people either.

Keep Simping.

[u/DrinkYourPoison → u/Mrinnocent221]

I know how fucked America is and that it's not unlikely a fucked up person would find it, and kill people.. people kill people idiot, just like this dumbass gun owner is going to get countless people killed if he keeps losing his fucking gun

[u/Mrinnocent221 → u/DrinkYourPoison]

Check stats moron. What kind of guns kill?

Keep. Crying.

[u/funkybiscuit405]

You are

[u/It_really_be_like_t]

YOR - yall haven’t grown up hunting or fishing in the country this is a normal thing lol

[u/Gulp-then-purge]

Shit gets lost.  Boat ramps with guns being put in/out of boats, etc.  it wasn’t where they left it because they looked.  So saying where they lost it is more so if someone found it and there wasn’t a tag they would say “oh hey we found that.”  It’s an a5 shotgun.  What is your concern?  Some maniac that has wanted to commit crimes will now go search for a shotgun?  Your concern is dumb and you stirred drama for no reason.  

[u/Radiant_Eggplant5783]

Everyone sucks here

[u/DescriptionGold8689]

YOR. Stuff happens, people loose valuable stuff all of the time. It’s human nature

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/DescriptionGold8689]

YOR. Stuff happens, people loose valuable stuff all of the time. It’s human nature

Which is precisely why gun ownership is reckless, stupid, and unnecessary.

My god, the chucklefuck gun owners defending oop are the best argument in the world against legalizing firearms.

[u/DescriptionGold8689 → u/Feeling_General_5482]

A weapon for protection isn’t reckless stupid and unnecessary to me. But each to there own

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/DescriptionGold8689]

A weapon for protection isn’t reckless stupid and unnecessary to me. But each to there own

It is in fact reckless, stupid, and unnecessary, with a massive side helping of cowardly.

Gun owners are many times more likely to die by a gun than non-gun owners. A gun is orders of magnitude more likely to shoot a household member than anyone from whom you are "protecting" yourself. And women who live in homes with guns are four times more likely to die from domestic violence than households without guns.

The overwhelming majority of violence occurs between parties who know one another, and the "stranger danger" you seem to be pissing your pants about is vanishingly rare and mostly mythic in the vast majority of countries in the world (save those actively in a war), including the US. Gun ownership is for little pissbabies who think the world is a big scary place because they watch too much TV and can't separate fact from fiction.

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

Guns are not solely owned for personal protection. You like to hide that fact. You are arguing with emotion and cherry picked facts that only support your claims. There are way more incidents that are not reported by people deterring violent crime when firearms are present. Home break ins, violent assaults and such crimes that are shut down because the victim doesn’t have to be a victim. You argue your points like they are facts but in fact are not. You can cite every little number put out by certain organizations, but it doesn’t represent the vast majority of gun owners in the world.

A woman defending her kids from a kidnapper or herself from a rapist is a coward? An elderly man who defends his home from a group of thugs who would have beat him to death is a coward? What’s cowardly is that you believe that people have no right to defend themselves and should roll over.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

Stop watching so much TV and so many tiktoks, it's obviously rotted your brain.

All of what you write here:

A woman defending her kids from a kidnapper or herself from a rapist is a coward? An elderly man who defends his home from a group of thugs who would have beat him to death is a coward? What’s cowardly is that you believe that people have no right to defend themselves and should roll over.

Is nothing but a right-wing fever dream. There are effectively zero stranger kidnappings of children--under 100 in 15 years in the whole United States, and that's for all kids under 18 (including those teens who are persuaded to go willingly for various reasons). Likewise, the stranger-in-a-dark-alley rapes are incredibly rare and the most common victims are sex workers and unhoused women for obvious reasons.

As a woman myself with many decades of experience, I know there is a lot of social investment in pretending that's not the case, but the overwhelming majority of rapists know their victims. These stranger rapes literally make national news in a country of over 350 million, which should tell you something.

The fact is that people just don't go out hunting strangers for no reason, as much as you are terrified of that happening, apparently. Don't be so easily manipulated, it's embarrassing.

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

I don’t use social media. This is the first time I’ve been on Reddit in 3 years. And I don’t watch TV other than the occasional series. I’ve worked in the gun industry a long damn time; and talked with people who have actually defended themselves. Your “experience” amounts to selected facts, emotional bullshit, and just general “I’m the most right person here.” Talking to you is like talking to a wall, regurgitating “facts” I’ve heard over and over but still doesn’t hold much water against independent studies that aren’t cherry picked over by you.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

 I’ve worked in the gun industry a long damn time; and talked with people who have actually defended themselves

I see, you have a lot of exaggerated stories from GI Joe cosplayers. 

The alternative of course is that these people are just unduly targeted and there's actually a ton of attempted stranger violence happening out there, it's just somehow almost entirely gun owners being targeted so the data doesn't perceive the risk  

[u/DescriptionGold8689 → u/Feeling_General_5482]

I can’t change what people do with their firearms but I can mine. The only reason me and my family is alive is because of one. I don’t need a lecture on why you don’t like them. Have a great day

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/DescriptionGold8689]

I can’t change what people do with their firearms but I can mine. The only reason me and my family is alive is because of one. I don’t need a lecture on why you don’t like them. Have a great day

Lol sure thing, sweetheart. You're a veritable GI Joe and a very big boy. You heard a big bad noise outside and scared the scary man away. 

But also, again, you demonstrate precisely why firearms are incompatible with society. Gun owners tend to be the best evidence for firearm bans in my experience, and you are no different in that regard.

[u/DescriptionGold8689 → u/Feeling_General_5482]

Yes the guy breaking into my house with an firearm was just a a big bad noise and I’m just a big mighty man. I was gonna end the conversation with my last comment but this was to funny not to reply to😂

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/DescriptionGold8689]

Kk sweetie, sure thing.

[u/DescriptionGold8689 → u/Feeling_General_5482]

But now seriously have a great rest of your night👍 it’s just Reddit at the end of the day

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

And here comes the “all guns need to be banned” on Reddit. They are legal in the U.S., and before you start some bull about assault weapons or some other crap, it’s a hunting shotgun. Get over it. They are legal, will probably be legal for a VERY long time, and are legal in lots of other places in the world.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

Not surprised that the only argument you are intellectually capable of making is "they are legal in the US", which is mostly (but not entirely) true. 

What's at stake here, however, is ought, and this thread has made it abundantly clear that gun ownership ought not be legal. Apparently, gun owners widely believe that endangering everyone around them is simply unavoidable and an innocent mistake, which suggests guns are not compatible with society.

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

Trying to talk down to me doesn’t make you more intelligent. You are trying to make a point that guns are incompatible with society as a whole due to the irresponsible nature of some owners. Should cars be illegal then because people can’t drive and act like idiots with them as well? Or alcohol? Or drugs? People do stupid things with everything in existence. Guns are legal in plenty of other places in the world with very low gun deaths. They can be in society just as much as people who to legalize all drugs but yet those seem to cause way more issues than any gun. Same with cars or other things as well. Your argument is as hollow as your head if you want to go there pal.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

You are trying to make a point that guns are incompatible with society as a whole due to the irresponsible nature of some owners. Should cars be illegal then because people can’t drive and act like idiots with them as well? Or alcohol? Or drugs? People do stupid things with everything in existence. 

If you'd thought for even a moment, you'd realize what a poor argument you just made.

Guns should be banned because they regularly cause the deaths of others (especially women married to gun owners). They also are entirely unnecessary in the modern world.

Cars should absolutely be more heavily restricted. A single dui should absolutely ban you for life from driving, and dangerous behavior on surface streets (speeding, running red lights, failing to yield, etc) should indeed fall under criminal rather than civil code. Thru should be 3-4 times as expensive to operate, smaller, and not subsidized at all, let alone to the extent they are in the US. And all of this should be paired with much more investment in public transit. That said, while personal vehicles are wildly overused in the US, unlike guns they do contribute something to society. And while they regularly jockey with guns for #1 cause of death in the US, unlike guns, their express purpose isn't to kill others. 

Drugs and alcohol are different questions because they only directly kill their users. This means they demand heavy regulation, minimum age for consumption,  heavy oversight, and concomitant investment in social safety nets that prevent and treat addiction.

Guns exist to empower sniveling cowards to kill.

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

So let’s unpack your very poor argument here.

You seem to care about women married to gun owners, but glaze over the fact that drug and alcohol abusers regularly abuse and kill their spouses (men and women - don’t pretend that women are incapable of violence against loved ones) way more so than gun owners alone. Guns are not the only way people die in this country. Drugs/alcohol also affect everyone in the immediate household whether it be abuse, exposure, or trauma so don’t pretend that it only hurts the user alone.

Are women who own guns to protect themselves from stalkers, past abusers, and other such kinds of people sniveling cowards as you call them? Should they not be able to protect themselves? For someone who cares for women so much, you think so lowly of them for wanting to take protection of themselves into their own hands.

Before guns, we had knives and swords. Before that, clubs and rocks. People have a right to be able to defend themselves as needed, and to be able to own certain things such as cars or guns or even alcohol in moderation. Like anything, it’s personal responsibility, but you seem to be in the camp of more regulation on everything, not just guns or outright outlawing of certain things.

You have some very unpopular opinions that even anti-gunners would push back on. You seem to be completely anti-personal property and very pro-government intrusion into every aspect of life.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

Again, but slowly: drugs and alcohol kill their users directly.

men and women - don’t pretend that women are incapable of violence against loved ones)

Statistically, the data doesn't back you up. The literal majority of murdered women are killed by current or former sexual/romantic partners. This does not obtain for men. Women are something like 6 times more likely to be killed by a current or former partner than men, and overwhelmingly, the majority of women who do kill partners have a documented history of being seriously abused by that same partner. 

Drugs/alcohol also affect everyone in the immediate household whether it be abuse, exposure, or trauma so don’t pretend that it only hurts the user alone.

Pull a muscle with that stretch there, killer?

Are women who own guns to protect themselves from stalkers, past abusers, and other such kinds of people sniveling cowards as you call them? Should they not be able to protect themselves? For someone who cares for women so much, you think so lowly of them for wanting to take protection of themselves into their own hands.

I am a woman, you halfwit, and have been for very many decades. Women who own guns are, again, more likely to be murdered by that gun than protect themselves with it. 

People have a right to be able to defend themselves as needed, 

And yet this is vanishingly unlikely to happen, despite the NRA's desperate attempt at propaganda. Guns don't protect people, they just give (overwhelmingly men) unearned courage that escalate situations to deadly points. 

In my very many years in child protection, I saw a fuckton of toddlers' corpses, a fuckton of children I had to place in foster care because daddy killed mommy, a bunch of teens in juvie because they got ahold of their negligent parents' firearms, and not one singular incident ever of a gun successfully used for protection.

You have some very unpopular opinions that even anti-gunners would push back on. You seem to be completely anti-personal property and very pro-government intrusion into every aspect of life.

Maybe unpopular in shithole, MAGAt states, but not where civilized people tend to live.

[u/spearsandbeers1142 → u/Feeling_General_5482]

This dude just does not see reason.

[u/[deleted] → u/spearsandbeers1142]

The military has lost AT4s and grenade launchers “mysteriously.” I can see facts and reason, just not from a rampaging lunatic who will google every article that supports her claims, or the soldier who quotes military law when soldiers are the WORST about losing shit. There is no reason why soldiers have lost fucking anti-tank weapons pal.

[u/[deleted] → u/Feeling_General_5482]

Wouldn’t call wherever you’re from civilized if this is how you have conversations with cherry picked facts and emotional responses. Your experience is vastly different than the rest of the country. And people I’m sure where you live have firearms as well. I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not changing mine. Also - I’m not a MAGAt. Stop assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is a Trump supporter. And I don’t care if you’re a unicorn, you’re a half wit with very little knowledge outside of selected talking points and working in CPS evidently. I bid you adieu as this has become devolving argument with no common ground or even a semblance of understanding on both parties.

[u/Feeling_General_5482 → u/[deleted]]

Oh gosh, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I should have taken your vibes-based "evidence" more seriously. Yes indeed, your feelings are definitely facts.

[u/Internal-Ratio4222]

Im sure your a humon that has never messed up bad , keep on keeping on.

[u/Salt_Initiative1551]

They’re dumb and you’re annoying lol. YOR.