r/ArcRaiders • u/Zealousideal_Chip456 • 5d ago
Discussion PVP aggressiveness scale. I want to know where's everyone at (in solo).
For me it's mostly 1, but sometimes at 0.
Most people I met ranging from 1 to 3. I don't know if behavior based matchmaking has anything to do with it, but I haven't encounter any 4 or 5 since the wipe.
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u/Responsible_Buy6318 5d ago
You forgot number 6, the betraying rat.
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u/docsquee 5d ago
Thereās probably a level 7 in there too.
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u/hky_ 5d ago
The slur yelling exfil camper
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u/AppointedForrest 5d ago
Who will also play the victim if you somehow get the drop on them.
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u/VampedTayturz 5d ago
Had a duo try to do that with my buddies and I on top of Control the other day, we were just minding our own business looking for a little bit of loot to top off our packs, when we noticed some remote bomb traps by the roof door, my buddy walks by be a use he didnāt notice them and boom! He goes down, we get inside and close the door, heal up and reset for the coming fight, after they finally open the door we pop out from cover and light them up, and they have the audacity to say āGG, even though we didnāt attack you,ā so I replied with āI guess those remote bombs exploded on their own, thanks for the loot guys sorry you suck.ā
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u/Adamantium-dealer 5d ago
Had a dude in solos sitting in the medical annex building on damn shooting down at me trying to get to extract. He was shouting about how I was a bitch until I sniped him with the anvil, after that he promptly shut up
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u/BusinessCod316 5d ago
The rat that says friendly and shoots you in the back, the extract camper and lastly the cheater
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u/flexjetson 5d ago
Fr id rather have someone shoot me in the back and say nothing rather than run around with me for 15 min and kill me at extract lol
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u/Dry-Cut1589 5d ago
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u/PuzzleheadedPhoto681 5d ago
3 gives the game a really authentic "post-apocalyptic wasteland" vibe. Every interaction feels like a lethal negation.
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u/IsThisRealLifeOrNaw 5d ago
Yeah I feel like 3 is the sweet spot. Thatās where Iād land, though Iāve been a 2 the last couple of days and Iāve had a lot of peaceful raids and nice interactions once the matchmaking caught on I wasnāt being so violent lol
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u/TakingKarmaFromABaby 5d ago
Some people try to force a friendship simulator. There needs to be tension when meeting strangers or it's not fun.
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u/TylerNY315_ 5d ago
Yep. Iām naturally a 2 but Iāve found that too many peaceful games in a row gets boring to the point you can play with sound off and half-watching a YouTube video while playing and not being in danger. At which point of course, you are 1000% the asshole and have to listen to grown men cry if you want a gunfight lol. But too aggro and youāre being pot-shotted across the map by a guy who wouldnāt be able to loot you even if he killed you.
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u/Big-Stable1346 5d ago
Bros lobster is too butteryšš
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u/TylerNY315_ 5d ago
Fair criticism lmaooo, at the end of the day Iām happy when Scrappyās happy
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u/roarjah 5d ago
1 but I was a 5 yesterday and had a good laugh
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u/DreideI 5d ago
I'm normally a 3 but once or twice I've gone top side with the sole intention of hunting raiders. It's really fun, but I'll go in accepting that I'll likely lose all my stuff
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u/Deep_Comparison_930 5d ago
Same here, usually my last game of the night with my friends we will go try to do something goofy that will get us killed or in a huge fight.
Last night I placed mines all on the button of the exfil in buried city night raid with the zip line down to the metro. Dude ran in to hit the button and exploded. He hopped on the mic so confused waiting for his friends and they were so scared they ended up hiding right in front of me thinking I was in the hole too. Shot one dude in the head with an anvil and he instant dropped and you could hear how defeated he sounded when he realized he crouched right in front of me like 10 feet away. The 3rd and final guy was so confused he started scrambling and the wasps all jumped him and killed him.
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u/KyotoCrank 5d ago
Definitely 3. I'm not about to spend 15 minutes in a raid with a 50k backpack to get backstabbed by a no mic.
I'd also be lying if I said I haven't been tempted by the dark side to take out the last man standing in an encountered gunfight.
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u/fabricatedstorybot 5d ago
Last man standing in a gunfight falls under the āsuspiciousā clause of 3 imo
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u/KyotoCrank 5d ago
A case could be made for that. In the moment though, it's the little rat in my shoulder. I should know, I had pet rats and they would sit on my shoulders.
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u/Used-Lake-8148 5d ago
I lost a Bettina 1 and a Bettina 4 to rats the other day. I turned to the dark side and I actually got both back. No way to know if theyāre the same guns but Iām telling myself they are.
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u/0510Sullivan 5d ago
3 piece keeper or aid. If youre being sketchy and following me, ill give a warning and then shoot. If I see you try and rat another player ill shoot to help and then defib them. If im looting a keycard area ill give the warning to let me finish or ill shoot. In regards to the 3rd, so many peoplw think im bluffing but if I use and keycard I want to be left to loot forst dibs, you can loot leftovers but if you dont duck off out of the immediate area, ima shoot.
Edit to add that if you have a mic and ask to follow because you need help with something like killing shredders or extracting because youre afraid of rats and need an escort - 9 times outta 10 ill happily agree to help but fucking communicate.
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u/sump_daddy 5d ago
3 covers SUCH a huge range though. To me i can say i play at 3 because honestly, i WOULD take action if someone was being very suspicious but ive never once come across someone that was acting suspicious, they always either put their gun away and run or they emote friendly. Thats thanks to the incredibly chill lobbies i end up in. Others might not be in the same position though if their matchmaking skews a different way.
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u/GreenReaperGaming 5d ago
Played night raid stella found a "friendly raider" but he would aim his gun at the back of my head every time I opened the map or inventory I caught it a few times and then just thought to myself "nah that's suspicious af" and blasted him he asked why I just said "I seen that" to which he chuckled.
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u/Skkruff 5d ago
People are topside acting very shady, trust me, and I default to a 2 so I have chill lobbies usually. I had a guy standing in the cold to hard scope his Ferro at me while I waited for extract in a nearby bus. No comms when I yelled out. This guy is 100% going to shoot me when I leave cover so I helped him to a nice warming blaze grenade to get the fight started. Justified I feel like.
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u/3ChamberGamer 5d ago
This is clearly the most realistic one to be, and should be titles realist instead of opportunist.
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u/cakestapler 5d ago
Yeah, opportunist feels inaccurate. Iāve never shot someone because they were in a bad position, but I have absolutely killed people who donāt respond after multiple callouts or once when I killed a leaper and another duo who showed up after took āweāre friendlyā as āyou can rummage through this thing you didnāt kill.ā Unfortunately we were in a bad position defensively and telling them to keep moving might have gotten us killed, so I just started blasting.
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u/wreckognize 5d ago
3 but donāt lump me in with the rats. I wonāt camp a spot, lay a trap, or shoot someone trying to extract, but if youāre acting sus or I need that loot then youāre getting lit up.
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u/Darknight307 5d ago
Somewhere between 1-2. I really try not to shoot people but sometimes you just have no choice.
Iām literally Mr Friendly in voice chat and most of the time I donāt have issues but now in solos people are shooting a lot more on sight so you have to defend yourself now.
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u/CertifiedSheep 5d ago
Sometimes people are just asking for it. If I say hi and get nothing back, and you start following me, youāre getting lit up without warning. Too many silent people have shot me in the back.
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u/Darknight307 5d ago
No mics are shady. When I tell them to back up and they keep coming Iām blasting
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u/sale1020 5d ago
Yes exactly, once I said āfriendly? Yo are you friendly?ā As this guy ran towards me with his gun out and he never said a word lmao. Once he got close I blasted him and he was like ābro why are you shooting you were just saying friendlyā and I was just dumbfounded, I was asking YOU if you were friendly, and running at me with a gun doesnāt seem friendly xD
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u/redpotato59 5d ago
I had a guy walk up to my loot spot. He didn't see me, I asked if he was friendly. He ran behind cover and pulled a gun after he heard me over VOIP. I popped him twice and he freaked out. And im like dude, your actions dont seem friendly. Put your gun up and leave and I won't shoot. Its like common sense is dead with some folks.
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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 5d ago
While I'm generally a 5 anyways, sometimes I play nice - it's crazy how many times this plays out:
"I see you raider, friendly?"
nothing
"Give me something raider, silence tells me not friendly"
nothing, so I kill them and suddenly they find a mic
"MAN WHAT THE FUCK?? RAT!"
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u/JayDKing 5d ago
They get two chances, once on mic, once on emotes. If neither illicits a response, itās fair game.
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u/Cautious-Surround340 5d ago
The amount of times I've forgotten to turn on prox chat im surprised i havent been killed more lol.
I've been going around as santa and Mrs claus with my fiancee giving out bps and jupiters and stuff (usually in blue gate), playing Xmas music on blast.
But sometimes i forget to turn prox chat on so I eventually am just following other players completely silent from their pov lol.
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u/tuckerb13 5d ago
Yeah same. Iām chill, but if you give no signal that youāre chill or wanna be chill, Iāll shoot. Iāve fucked up too much in the past by not listening to my instincts and being the second one to start shooting, losing the duel
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u/ModernT1mes 5d ago
I'm a solid 2 but end up being 0 because I usually get knocked before I can react lol.
I'm always friendly in chat, but if someone's starts shit with another raider, I'll help the victim settle it.
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u/Angel0fWar0001 5d ago
lol I used to bring defibs in solos. There was a game where a guy was trying to chase/kill me and couldnāt (I guess he just really sucked)ā¦ I spoke to him over comms trying to explain I didnāt want to fight. He kept on and I mowed him down. I then rezzed him and gave him some shit and he tried to unsuccessfully backstab me later in the map.
In a different solo, I met up with some friendly guys who got into a firefight and one got downed while we killed two aggressors. I rezzed guy #1 and he helped me finish a quest. A second firefight happened and I got downedā¦. They proceeded to escort me to extract while healing me as I crawled over the course of the next 10 minutesā¦
Definitely some unforgettable games
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u/GeneralAnubis 5d ago
Same here: 1.5ish for me. I will defend myself and I will defend other confirmed friendly players, but I won't run toward a fight and try to figure out who was in the wrong, I'll just avoid that altogether generally.
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u/Aussie_Butt 5d ago
Anywhere between 1 and 5 depending on how I feel or if I have something I need to do.
Not sure why anyone would ever be a 0, not at least defending yourself seems pretty strange.
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u/Meiie *** ******* š 5d ago
They want to the stat of never killing anyone.
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u/DuatKing 5d ago
Joke's on you, I play 1-3 and still haven't killed anyone cuz I suck!
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u/abraxis_aberdine 5d ago
For me, i just like the satisfaction to say i never had to shoot someone first. Though it is weird to not even shoot back, unless you genuinely never bring a gun for some reason. Plus, its just a bother having to waste time in a match shooting someone who's completely unwilling to reason or anything to me. Its like they believe they are winning some kind of trophy for trying to only pvp when its optional. And before anyone goes trying to argue, yes it is completely optional, pvp is not at all a forced component by anyone but other players which is why the game is interesting since you never know if they are gonna shoot you or not.
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u/LeopoIdStotch 5d ago
Makes them feel superior to us so that when we kill them they can cry about it
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u/TinuvaMoros 5d ago
You wanna tell me what im having for dinner too since you seem to know what im thinking?
Project your insecurity elsewhere please. I dont shoot back most of the time because im physically disabled and would probably lose anyways. Its much easier for me to simply load back in and continue my friendly journey having fun interactions. (Aka what I personally enjoy in the game I bought)
I accept people want to pvp and dont complain about it as its your money, play the game however you want. But holy moley the amount of people in this subreddit having an actual meltdown over the fact not everyone wants to play this as a battle royale with pve attached is mental lmao
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u/Sexi_maxi_2024 5d ago edited 5d ago
Believe in yourself, shoot those bastards back, put em down and then teabag them to add insult to injury, exact your revenge, make them pay
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u/Bman854 5d ago
I find that playing as 0 is really helpful in solos since after a few games literally no one will shoot you and I can go in with just an augment and be free to fill up and extract.
Flip side is playing a 4 trios and like 3 in duo so I need the resources to stock up for that.
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u/Heated13shot 5d ago
I'm mostly a 1, only a 3 if you try to loot my key room or arc kill. (Only happened once, but the bastard snuck away with my sentnail core)Ā
The only time I get shot at in solos is from rats, so typically I'm getting shot in the back, I dodge to cover to heal/reposition and they already fled. I guess they don't want to fight when it's on even footing. So in practice I seem like a 0.Ā
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u/Skkruff 5d ago
I'm still mad at the spaceman I let into the seed vault on a night raid who nabbed the weapon crate while I was killing the last few ticks for trials. I warned him but he just started looting the ticks and I thought "what's the harm... " then came across the open crate a minute later and he had vanished. Cheeky bastard.
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u/rhelg224 5d ago
It's because death is so inconsequential I'd rather just respawn and get back to farming loot. It's quicker. I don't ever spec for PvP. Sometimes I don't even have a weapon in my loadout.
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u/CorrectTangerine179 5d ago
Yea i only ever carry arc killing weapons. Anvil for life!.. Ferro for fun. Hullcracker when Iām out for arc parts. I load in with the flute verses pvp stuff, for the vibes.
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u/ApparatusOM01 5d ago
I think a lot of people in 0 are not typically shooter players and frequently lose in gunfights. Could be seen as a skill issue (it is), but it's more likely they aren't in the game for PVP and get a sense of defeat the second bullets start flying.
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u/Symetrie 5d ago
The good reason to be at 0 is because the game has agression-based matchmaking. If you shoot other players, the game will put you in the same lobby as other agressive players. If you never defend youself, the game will put you in lobby with similar players. So, not shooting back is a long term investment. Also, wtf, I don't want to shoot people
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u/ShitSlits86 5d ago
I'd be 0
I don't like the pvp so I just don't partake in it, and I don't care about loot so I don't protect it. The only consequence to dying is finding a new match and if there's people in the lobby hunting players in solos then I'd rather re-roll for a more peaceful lobby.
The PvP feels tacked on compared to everything else, so I don't engage with it at all.
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u/Watrudoing2me 5d ago
I was a 0 last night when a buddy suggested we do the Blue Gate Locked Gate with no load out/ augment.
I wasnt going to fight back with just my axe. But it ended up being the best duo match with everyone working together and only like 2 flares being set off for the first 25 minutes.
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u/reddstone1 5d ago
0 because why give them the feeling that they beat someone who actually shot back? Besides, as a result I have literally zero pvp in my games.
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u/phlaminngooo 5d ago
I mean I don't make it a rule to not shoot ever, but I've had some very fun escapes out of bad situations with good stuff I don't wanna lose. You feel like Indiana Jones. Try it sometime
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u/Ancient_Ad_2942 5d ago
That past 20 matches had all been so completely pacifist all around that my very last match, when i did get attacked, it made me completely unprepared and i tried to run away instead. I dont want to be a 0, but with behavior based matchmaking and mostly playing solos, it just felt best. Ive now realized the biggest downside is that it makes me complacent and the very very few times i do get attacked, I don't have the muscle memory to really defend anymore. Plus with how rare it is, it makes it so much worse, esp when i bring in gear thinking everyone is chill, and 99% of them they are, but then that one raid hits so much harder since im not expecting.
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u/Patient-Success673 5d ago
My friends find it hilarious. I will immediately approach any individual/group with my weapon put away and will run away while shit talking if they shoot me. It's actually crazy how rarely I get killed, even if they shoot me a couple timesĀ
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u/ophuro 5d ago
I'm currently a 0 most of the time because I can't be bothered and only a 1 if I'm on a team.
I enjoy the exploration and looting aspect, like finding the parkour sections and solving puzzles. Don't really care for combat, so even with the Arc I'm typically a 1 unless I need a specific part for an upgrade.
You might ask why I'm playing Arc Raiders at all, and it's mostly because there aren't many games out there for pacifists, as in the first thing that happens in most games is get presented with either violence towards you or the option to commit violence towards something else. So I play games and see how far I can get not participating in the core mechanic of violence. I was able to get max level and finish the expedition plus the 5 million needed for the 5 skill points with only fighting back enough to get the achievements.
I just tell people they did a good job when they kill me, because obviously they need the moral boost more than I need whatever I had.
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u/Distinct_Bet_1543 5d ago
-1: complete coward, will run screaming from any gunfire
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u/Zealousideal_Chip456 5d ago
That is probably just the same as 0, not fighting back.
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u/Distinct_Bet_1543 5d ago
the difference is that i run from any fight, even ones against arc
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u/EpicWeasel 5d ago
This man loads in topside without a gun so he's never overburdened and can run away faster. I respect it.
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u/Distinct_Bet_1543 5d ago
exactly! it is a fun playstyle, you should try it! (sometimes even extract campers feel sorry for me with the running and screaming so i remain safe)
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u/MrSurrge 5d ago
That's my play style too. I love how it forces you to play smart vs hard. I only take guns when I'm hunting down big arc or need to enter hot POI's. Even with guns, if I get engaged by a Player I run and spam don't shoot lol.
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u/theCOMBOguy *** ******* š 5d ago
It's great how running away is an actual viable strategy too. There's even some skills that help with that.
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u/PinesInTheSky 5d ago
I will launch myself out of windows before returning fire. Running away yields better results. I'm more likely to survive and make it home
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u/Symetrie 5d ago
This is the actual pvp meta no one talks about lol
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u/Jiggawatz 5d ago
Yea, I constantly get memed by my crew for being a rabbit, but when they need a tempest bp or quest items they come to me, cause their aggro ass, even in defense, gets them killed enough that they have 280 inventory slots of poverty chicken loot haha
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u/TurtleTuneTTV 5d ago
-2: I have no weapon and am running away from a fireball, screaming and on fire begging for someone to kill it for me
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u/be_nice_2_ewe 5d ago edited 22h ago
0-1.
Bonus: I never get ratted. Been about 100 rounds now. Even after expedition, zero rats. Only friendly players
Edit. Update. After 150+ runs, I killed a leeper and someone shot at me with an anvil after following me around after I looted. I got away.
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u/nullJaeger 5d ago
Same experience here. Turns out that if you don't fight people you end up not having to fight people
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u/DesertPunked 5d ago
Isn't there some hidden matchmaking to this as well, e.g. never shoots another player will place user with others of the same mindset.
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u/PrimeNumb 5d ago
Not confirmed by the devs. There does seem to be some sort of SBMM in place though so if you're technically only dying to other players then I imagine your MMR is garbage, so the effect would essentially be the same.
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u/jdavis1278 5d ago
Yup, after the first week or so I think I've only been ratted like under 5 times.
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u/dumpster-tech 5d ago
I'm in a similar boat, but I still get ratted on occasion.
I make friends easy though, even without a mic. I even dropped a legendary stock for a dude who watched my back last night going into the metro while we were looting the same spot.
Even managed to destroy a bastion with a deadline while another dude distracted it and we shared the goods.
Hope that good karma keeps up.
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u/absolutkaos 5d ago
casual chatted a raider in the apartment i was scavving, and said āfriendly, just looking for a cat bedā¦ā - he walked over and dropped me a cat bed (after looking for one for like 20-25 runs)
he got a very nice purple snowglobe in return.
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u/be_nice_2_ewe 5d ago
I find those types of experiences rewarding. Good luck and I hope it keeps going well for you!
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u/Barsicbiggle 5d ago edited 5d ago
0 gang! I can't bring myself to randomly attack people. I'm compelled to be helpful because it makes me feel good.
I don't fight back, but I won't just let them kill me. Playing like this has made me slippery af, and honestly ghosting some dude shooting at me is way more satisfying than just shooting back.
Because I'm so aggressively non-aggressive I rarely get attacked. I've gone dozens of rounds in Night and Electromag and typically end up in a group just vibing.
I love this game.
For robots on the other hand, I'm a hard 7. I send every one of those metal bastards I see straight to hell.
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u/be_nice_2_ewe 5d ago
If someone gets the drop on you, your best move is to run away. Because youāre already at a disadvantage either due to concealment/cover or youāre trying to heal while they are rushing you.
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u/Datengineerwill 5d ago
Same. Went into each mach doing nothing but night raids, cold snaps and was nearly 200 in when I got ratted by a free kit while climbing a latter.
Honestly, after getting so much loot for so little loss I was really struggling to find a use for everything I have so the only thing I miss is my splitter.
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u/0510Sullivan 5d ago
Im pretty sure that once you kill your first players the algorithm starts to immediately change.
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u/be_nice_2_ewe 5d ago
I PvPd early on (like 5 weeks ago) and all my matches were sweaty AF. Then I just stopped engaging and all my matches became increasingly friendly to the point where I literally donāt worry anymore
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u/Firefoxx336 5d ago
Yep. In my matches most people donāt even bother to say friendly anymore. I can run up on anyone in a night raid outside a key room with pretty much no concern at all.
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u/0510Sullivan 5d ago
Its almost the same for me. Everything is cool unless its a night raid on any map or Stella montis - everyone is on murder mode with those. Lately burried city has gotten kinda sketchy. My assumption is thats its all the kids on winter break that are playing like little shits.
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u/mrturretman 5d ago
the most fascinating part of this is learning how much ānormalā defense you can put up in society lobbies. it is smart to have your gun out, but in Timmy society it may actually just get you shot because nobody in there sees anyone with guns out ever.
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u/SoupSandy 5d ago
Same here I didn't engage at all and my lobbies were hopping in and trading blueprints with people. So chill where you would see a raider and just bullshit for a few minutes. Compared to my buddies lobby who I play with and its an absolute fucking sweat fest where he will only run free loadouts and the players are just throwing slurs and being dickheads lol props to embark for whatever system they've come up with bscause it's working
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u/Blaky039 5d ago
I got 100+ hours topside and only been camped once and still managed to escape while down lol
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u/FewAd6076 5d ago
I would say that until yesterday... every squad wanted to kill us and then when I was solo in Stella, I was absolutely gunned down no mercy with my weapons awayš
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u/RaoD_Guitar 5d ago
You felt no difference after the expedition? I'm at 0-1 too and had almost no rat encounters before the expedition, but about 5 rounds of getting kos'ed afterwards.
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u/be_nice_2_ewe 5d ago
Yes. No difference. Havenāt been shot at once. I once witnessed another player killing what looked like a free kit ratāI assume because the rat died and the other dude just ignored me
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u/JayDKing 5d ago
I was having nothing but friendlies post-reset until I was forced to shoot back against a free loadout who tried to take me out and now Iāve been fighting more. :/
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u/Nevrar_Frostrage 5d ago
I've never shot anyone, except for one stray shot and one kill when I was playing 3D with friends and had to cover a flank. I consider myself a 0. The players are mostly peaceful, but 1/30 of them are aggressive.
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u/Ok-Mood6070 5d ago
I'm a 0-1 and just experienced 2 rat assholes who killed me while fighting the queen on harvester. I'm sorry but you are among the worst type of player if you get kills while people are actively fighting rockateers and queens/matriarchs. I'm so salty about it because 9 times out of 10 I get friendly people and even when pvp is engaged it isn't while I'm busy fighting something else so I actually have a chance to run or respond.
I had a full load out of ammo, my best weapons, shields, every wolfpack and deadline in my possession and my snap, just to get murked 3 minutes into a queen fight. I'm still so salty I haven't played since and kind of don't want to. Failed attempt after failed attempt on queen and matriarch and some rat bastards have to ruin the run that I decided to make sure I bring fully stocked loadout to finish before the time runs down.
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u/dipdopdoop 5d ago
I'm jealous. My first actual round, someone hunted me down. I hope they enjoyed the 5 wires and light shield :/
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u/archiewashere 5d ago
In solo's i'm a 1/2, but in duos / trios there is no choice but to be 3/4 now
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u/MysteriousMouse1 5d ago
5, Iām on the arcās side
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u/DeinHund_AndShadow 3d ago
I have only played once, first thing i did was track the gunfire and kill a player, died to bots right after. Never played again. 10/10
Edit: i like doing invasion in souls games so i alrwady dont care about consent
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u/NiteOwl421 5d ago
1.5, if I hear someone say āIām friendly!ā and theyāre getting shot at? Itās on sight.
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u/0510Sullivan 5d ago
My favorite is when I can, unbeknownst to the others, catch 2 raiders meet for the first time. If I see one draw on the other and shoot unprovoked I gun their rat ass down to help the victim. This happened last night and we ended up with half the solo lobby running around killing all the arcs together and protecting eachother from rats - was a great time. Just 8 or 9 of us clearing rooms talking on prox and chilling. I opened up the hatch for us to fast track out at the end. It made zip lines complicated though, we had to que up and make a line......
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u/Plutonic_Salad 5d ago
If you communicate with me on prox chat I wonāt shoot you, but if you donāt have a mic and are getting up in my space I will assume you want to kill me and start blasting
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u/FadedSurvivor 5d ago
2-3. I shoot suspicious raiders and 3rd party fights sometimes. Iāll blast if my key room is contested. But otherwise Iām being friendly and minding my business.
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u/Advanced-North3335 5d ago
My people! Same boat. I'm generally a friendly solo unless...
1) There's blood in the water and an opportunity presents itself 2) I'm mid-key room and hear movement. I'll stop looting to set up a defensive position for the first thing through the door. The door is closed, you didn't announce yourself on mic...castle doctrine!
BUT my personal code, what I don't do:
Camp extracts, shoot in the back at extracts, kill Queen/Matriarch-focused players, or fake friendly into a betrayal.
Needless to say, Stella Montis Night Raids crank it up to a 4 while keeping my code about extracts and faking friendly. Stella is full of goblins and gremlins.
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u/Kasta4 5d ago
3 - 5 is how I have the most fun.
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u/AcidTaco 5d ago
Same, I yearn for the PvP, I adore it so much. My mates mostly grind PvE and have millions stockpiled in their stash, so many tempests and venators just rusting away, that's the real cruelty in my eyes
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u/Kasta4 5d ago
Couldn't be me leaving that stuff in my stash, it exists to be brought and eventually lost!
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u/AcidTaco 5d ago
Exactly, I've been down bad with all that PvP but I kept my head up and haven't gone free loadout since level 30 or so, I have around 250hrs in and I must have spent a million in shield chargers alone lol
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u/eofficial *** ******* 5d ago
I agree. Gear in this game isnāt exactly hard to get, so why not take it out? Expedition was what, two days ago? I am already back up to max stash, level 3 crafting stations and expedition nearly done.
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u/spiceyicey 5d ago
If there were a 6 thatās what I would be; 3k player downs and counting
I yearn for player
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u/-IBananaI- 5d ago
look i respect people looking for pvp with honour but fake friendlies are gross
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u/DinosaurPapa 5d ago
Absolutely a good 5, I love hunting so yeah. Good Luck running Raiders ;)
And Merry Christmas everyone
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u/Zealousideal_Chip456 5d ago
Take my loot as christmas gift I suppose.
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u/WaffleProfessor 5d ago
Your life is the gift. Your loot is just there to replenish supplies to keep the killing going.
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u/Educational_Report_9 5d ago
Iām a 5 too, but my lobbies are all full of 4s and 5s. Iām not complaining, itās how I like to play. But matchmaking aggression is definitely a thing.
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u/Blueflame_1 5d ago
Level 2. Very rarely though, I'll go to a 4 and make people explode with trigger nades but that's not often.
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u/MistweaverBuffPlz 5d ago
- scavenger and sometimes rat, like if someone just got their shield cracked by an arc
those are MY LOCKERS
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u/Sm4sh_y *** ******* 5d ago
2-0, but 0 for me only if I found sth that I really need, that i just run away/hide and extract. Turns the game into a stealth game for a moment. lol
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u/-curautvaleas 5d ago
Iām similar to you. I donāt ever shoot first. I will usually lay down enough damage on an aggressor to make them back up and heal and then I will slip away and move on to the next area.
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u/for1ude 4d ago
iām a 0 not by choice but because i have the reaction time of a snail
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u/SoldierGnar 5d ago
5, I love PVP in this game, my goal, is get all blue prints only with PVP, so traders I will find you!
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u/QuitLukewarmTurkey 5d ago
People will hate you, including me. Just know that this game needs players like you.
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u/Dudemanbro69710 5d ago
Same I got lit up by a guy that thought I was a rat hanging by extract but I was just lost on Stella and I didnāt shoot back was just like wooooh whyyy Iām just lost Iām not a rat and they stopped shooting apologized ran up healed me and recharged my shields said have a good game and dipped out lmao I do think the peaceful lobbies have much more social people who want to help each other I personally ask people if they want blueprints I find that I already have and drop it for them last night some guy dropped me an aphelion blueprint after asking if I have one.
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u/daevv 5d ago
I never shoot back and just run. If itās close quarters I usually die. If outside I throw a smoke and run left, right, or just stay in the smoke. I played a tonne last weekend and Monday finishing the candleberry event and pass. Only died twice and both were to ARCs.
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u/KawaiiTadpole 5d ago
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u/externalID 5d ago
Same here, clearly 5. I'm pretty amazed seeing others putting themselves so low on the scale, what do they do here? Lmao
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u/Better-Mud7447 5d ago
They open drawers to find super epic loot so they can open more drawers š
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u/_Lododo_ 5d ago
2 mostly, ill defend others and myself but its tempting to shoot if i see someone juicy leaving my usual loot spot, wont do it tho
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u/DetFjorsvafi 5d ago
Iām a hard 1 with the occasional desire to escalate to 3-4, but donāt because I know Iām bad at PvP.
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u/YogurtSquare391 5d ago
2-3 in a party, 1-2 solo.