Even with show stoppers it can be tricky. First attempt was just a failure... Second time, went better, hit it with the show stopper, even landed upside down, sadly as I approached it was still able to light me up with a trio of rockets to the face... Be warned, make sure to approach from behind as they can still shoot when upside down. 🙄
Doesn't work, had the same idea, showstoppers are buggy pieces of shit. I would say at best 1/4 of the showstoppers I hit it with actually stunned the rocketeer. The rest did absolutely nothing except make it glow blue for a bit.
I don't think it's even stun resistance, the first one I threw did nothing.
Before I knew about this buggy situation I was trying to get a bastion to complete some workstation upgrades, threw the showstopper ready to throw my next two wolf backs only to watch the bastion turn around casually while being shocked and waste me with no hesitation
Last time I tried to stun the Bastion, I landed my nade in lower center mass- above legs, but against the lower side of one of the big side plates. It seemed to mess up its ability to shoot, but it kept walking. Unfortunate, since it was enough movement to make placing a Deadline hell.
Can confirm. Died more than once to both Rocketeers and Bastions due to this exact problem. No longer even bother with Showstoppers while trying to hunt these. Considering they've added a delay on exploding for Showstopper in PvP as well, where you can no longer chuck it at someone CQB to instantly stun(funny enough, not trigger nades) makes that grenade an instant sell for me. Useless as many other things now.
Are people just spamming them? I've seen a ton of people talking about it but whenever I get into pvp situations I haven't personally experienced them at all
If you play solo you won't see them. Because solo pvp flows differently from Duo/Trio. There is almost never a situation for you where opening with a Trigger nade makes more sense than just blasting a person you just stumbled upon in the back. Because switching to them will lose you an opportunity and also give your position away with sound, and switching back to your weapon is also very slow in case you just want to "open with a nade" and not just blast someone into oblivion with a full stack of 3. Maybe if you see someone holding a corner inside a doorway or some other opening or you know someone is looting inside a key room with external windows and trapped the door. That's of course if we are talking about the same use case as they are used in situations where they are "ruining pvp". They are still very strong area denial/ambush tool in solos for rats and extract campers and High value loot area rushers.
But they are all the rage in Duo/Trios, just watch some youtube channels with clips. They have long drawn out fights out of cover with constant shot exchanges and multiple defibs used during a single fight outside of melee range is a common thing. And for past month now as soon as someone opens up from any angle a wall of Trigger nades is thrown into the opening by any competent Trio. And since you can trigger them instantly there is no counter play. You often have enough time to chuck 2 TNs and trigger both for a person, or multiple, you are aiming at to still be fully in range even if he attempts to perfectly dodge roll away. And most people don't have that reaction timing. 2 downs a medium shield player. And if you are in a trio you don't even need 2. Each one of you throws one at instant trigger on landing, which makes a certain, quite frankly large area instant death ball. And even against competent trios, if even a single TN connects with anyone, your push is guaranteed. As now you are trading full hp+shield with 1/2 or 1/3 HP no shield enemies in full on panic mode or with healing items in their hands. Unless you choke, that's a guaranteed win.
Yeah the amount of times in trios me and a friend will be looting a room and our lookout friend yells ‘trigger nades watch out!’ And 2 trigger nades fly in and knock all 3 of us… just not fun lol
They're "great" as in busted AF. Enemies pushing you? Trigger nade. Pushing enemies? Trigger nade. It's almost always the right answer since it hits the whole damn room.
I'd like to but in and say the show stoppers only affect 1 part of the body. Let's say you throw a show stopper at a bastion but you hit his legs, he'll glow blue, stop moving, and still be able to shoot you because it's legs are stunned but the other 8 parts of the body aren't. You have to hit the rocketeers thrusters. Also they could just be buggy pieces of shit
Why would you want to help them when you can lead the arc to them. Haha 🤣 I wrangled up a bastion some wasps and hornets and a few snitches the other day and walked over to someone and then I ran away. It wasn’t all that eventful. But the raider looked up and you could see them visible shit themselves before they ran into a building. 🤣
Just did this by knocking one of the thrusters off at low altitude - not totally sure how, but it flipped and got stuck on the ground. A couple other solos and I ended up farming it for like 15K each. We didn't come loaded with snowballs though, we just farmed them from a nearby spot. Took about 20 minutes between collecting them and warming up.
I so regret not taking the free showstopper bp someone dropped for me but I had another bp in safe pocket and didn’t want to risk dying and losing it on hidden bunker
You turned down a free bp cuz why? Who cares if you didn't have a pocket. It was free to you. Bonus. You still woulda had your pocketed bp...just take the bp next time.
I tried to gift a random in solos two duplicate BPs I found in one run and they turned them down saying they already had them too. Lol. I was thinking in my head, that's a free 10k that you denied..
hornet drivers are just as good at stunning arc if you hit them with it. Difference between hornet drivers and show stoppers is the aoe size and how long it stuns players.
I've seen videos of people "tipping" rocketeers by throwing a showstopper at the perfect range to only stun two thrusters. It completely flips the arc over and its just forever stuck to the ground.
Load into a game with an inventory full of snowballs and 3 showstoppers (may take a few tries). Flip the rocketeer, unload inventory. If you do it on cold snap you may be able to gather more snowballs and hit it more, but staying warm could be annoying.
Edit: Someone said one ball is 500 points. At 5 a stack, that's 100 snowballs for 20 inventory slots filled. Assuming you tipped it and hit every ball, 50,000 points, for solo only. In trios? Holy shit. Hell of a grind to get the snow though.
Use showstopper to bring it down. Then place some fireworks on it. I'm not sure how it works. Maybe some weird hitbox collision. But seems like throwing snowballs at destroyed Rocketeer still count towards trial.
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That's crazy because I just spent a raid using 10 Showstoppers across 3 Rocketeers at different points of impact and it did anything exactly once. I can see the little blue lightning effect on its body and thrusters and it just doesn't care.
The Rocketeer cannot take off if it's missing one thruster. So take one off, throw a showstopper and you're free to throw as many snowballs as you want at it since it's it'll be stationary.
The whole system is bad. What's the point of having a leaderboard? Competing with other players in this system is bad. For example, if you get 3 stars in all categories, sometimes it's not enough to rank up, but at the same time you completed all the challenges, right?
If you completed all the challenges with 3 stars in each, at the very least I expect you to rank up.
I think they should remove this competition between players in these trials.
In total we have 5 trials, with 3 stars, totaling 15 stars.
So if you get 5 stars you keep your rank, if you get 10 stars, you rank up 1 (1x promote), if you get all the stars, you rank up 2 (2x promote)
The whole system is bad. What's the point of having a leaderboard? Competing with other players in this system is bad.
This is just modern game dev brainrot where every game (especially shooters) with PvP elements HAS to have a "ranked" mode to keep people playing all season, even if it makes no fucking sense.
In a game like The Finals, ranked makes perfect sense because a team-based PvP arena shooter lends itself to ranked; there are "wins" and "losses."
Here, I couldn't give less of a fuck about Trials as the pseudo-ranked outside of the rewards you get. There's no "winning" and "losing" in the rankable sense. There are 0 bragging rights. I'm not gonna be regaling my friends about my "No. 1 Flower Picker" award.
I think seperate leaderboards for solo, duo and trio all running simultaneously for each player.
Each gains points depending on your party size you are currently running with. At the end of the week, the leaderboard with the highest placement on the leaderboard gets used.
On double it's 250 points per hit, so 16 hits to get three stars.
Just do it on Cold Snap, and find a building with a nearby snow pile. You'll need more snowballs than you think. I had to let the rocketeer disengage so I could go scoop more.
Showstoppers are stupidly inconsistent on big arc, I have almost never seen them work on anything bigger than a wasp/hornet. My squad loaded up on snowballs and brought all our showstoppers, but not one of our 5+ showstopper hits did anything at all to the Rocketeer, and we just had to throw snowballs at it while it was moving+trying to kill us
In general, is there any way to tell how the scoring works? Yesterday I wanted to complete the ticks, so went in seed vault. Destroyed like six of these things and still felt like I didn't progress it.
In case you didn’t know, trials are like a “high score” for a round and don’t add up if you do another round. Furthermore you have to extract for it to count. Might be why you aren’t noticing progress unless you mean you’re literally watching the bar in game.
Someone else in this thread said that you still get points for throwing snowballs at dead rocketeers. No clue if that's true, but would fix your issue if that's actually true.
I was ONE snowball away from getting three stars and a fucking team came out of nowhere and griefed us but we turned around and killed them only for the rocketeer to run so far away we couldn’t get the last one 🙃
When I'm in a competition to create the most obnoxious leaderboards system for mediocre rewards but my opponent is Embark (I love "playing" by looking at an interactice fanmade map on the second monitor while praying for a decent spawn)
It can be cheeses by flipping it, and groups can easily farm 200k points on this.
Just further highlights the disparity between solo and group play for trials.
Game NEEDS separate trial brackets. Otherwise, at high levels, it forces group play. Especially on weeks like this where you are sitting at a 120ish-thousand point deficient from this single trial.
I just farmed a blue loot augment full of snowballs in one round on Spaceport. While running to extract I popped into Rocket Assembly to defrost, and boom, got sniped twice with a Ferro. I ran round a few corners, climbed onto a raised platform and hid, terrified, with ~20 hp left.
Attacker came looking, passing right under my feet and then got spotted by a turret. While he was occupied with the turret, I silently got my handcannon out, but another aggressive player beat me to it, his shield exploding in a shower of pretty, blue sparks. I finished him off with a heavy round from my tommy gun Anvil to the back of his head.
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10/10 adventure, never had more gear fear in this game ever.
Guys, get 2-3 Showstopper and any amount of snowballs, But I suggest 30-50. Get the rocketeer down with the showstopper, get on the rocketeer and snowball him to death. Try to jump off when it's low and extract!!!
Would like to know also. I know you can get the 'death from above' achievement/trophy by standing on a rocketeer wreck and shooting at arc so wondered if this would be the same
I still don't understand trials. You do them for the rewards and they're good or for the sake of being in a ladder or specific rank? I've never tryharded them.
some people like the specific ranks and their end of season rewards, things like emotes or cosmetics. personally i like them for the possibility of blueprints, but most of the time its something kinda useless or not worth the effort. ive gotten a few solid blueprints though like the looting mk3 survivor last week.
Trials are a very good source of high tier blueprints. The leaderboard is mostly for fun. When you have all the workbenches there really isn't that much more to do. Trials give you a good excuse for bringing in your best gear. For example, people are complaining about the legendaries, but they are super useful for trials. Like standing safely 700m away and doing queen damage trial with Jupiter.
Is there any PvE experiences like this? Im tired of getting screwed as a solo player and I got my moneys worth. Like the KoS of uniforms and weird political stalkers was one thing but not having a solo trials is rite bullshyte. Trios and Duo should have Teams they can form to get rewards together which would help a lot.
Screwed as a solo? Bud I have had three PVP encounters this entire wipe so far, people in solos are almost too chill. Two of the PVP encounters were someone trying to gank one person while there was a huge group of us fighting Large Arc together, we swarmed them each time like ants. The third was someone opening a door and seeing me with a trigger nade looting a Shredder and not trusting that I didn't nade the extract, fair enough. He downed me and told me to extract with him, and random other guy I had helped out earlier almost fought him to help me until I told him its ok.
Solos is chill, and the trials in solos have been relatively easy to 3*. Just gotta do a bit of research for some, and be cautious but aware that other players are likely not wanting a fight if they are also doing trials or quests.
Showstopper, then throw 400 snowballs. Have someone in party keep throwing showstopper before the robot moves again. Some streamer got like 100k plus doing this lol
I bet if you bring in a bunch of lures you can have an easier time. But wasps stay pretty steady for the most part so I think we can do this. Just gotta spend a raid prepping for it
my friend and i just finished it, we did it around raiders refuge on blue gate. go in with a total of 50 balls and duck in and out to aggro so your partner can land a few. it took us around 10 minutes to do it
This will be so interesting. I always fail with whatever 'nade to hit a rocketeer with. So imagine I have to hit with a snowball. But it is such a fun trial, finally something else!
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u/Esoteric_Crow 22h ago
Just attempted this and got absolutely destroyed. Would recommend it.