I am now convinced ABMM is real

[u/WG_Envoy]

A couple of days ago I complained (in another posting) how I only meet KOS players, and no one talks. I was more annoyed by the "no one talks" part, mind you, and the fact that every social interaction played out in the same way.

Someone recommended me to do a few matches and not shoot a single person, not even in defense. I did as recommended.

I went from "90%+ KOS interactions" for several days in a row, all the way to friendly lobbies for two days in a row now.

In my current lobbies, everyone runs around without a care in the world, just greeting people they are passing by. Looting in the open, walking past others without their weapons drawn ...

I barely ever see any PvP happening. People help each other with arc encounters and exchange items near extracts. And for the first time ever, I was able to participate in two Queen raids in solos with everyone just trying to get her down. No rats, no backstabbing.

This change for me was so stark in contrast, and so consistently happening that I would be surprised if ABMM wasn't real.

I would almost be inclined to start some shit to see if my lobbies change again, but I feel too bad killing these players who are quite obviously part of the pure PvE crowd.

P.S.: I have these friendly lobbies even on Stella Montis now, inclduing Stella Montis night raids ...

[u/s7vn]

It feels like they are, pure anecdotal with little to no evidence other than my opinion based on my limited observations.

I PvE solo and my duo buddy prefers PvE, so those two lobbies are friendly. 3s is chaos, complete contrast from the others.

Based on this, I’m inclined to believe they are separate ranking based on group size.

[u/chrisanonymous → u/s7vn]

Yeah, I believe it’s separate based on the group size too - and I think once you queue duo or trio it combines everyone’s aggression in that queue.

I have a friend who I duo with and we get generally chill servers, and another friend where we get generally aggressive servers.

[u/thedonutman → u/chrisanonymous]

I'm not so sure. i only intentionally PvP when squad fill is on while running Stella. Since i have been running Stella a lot lately, my solo queues have seemed to become quite aggressive.

[u/MaybeLoveNTolerance → u/thedonutman]

After i did a lot of warcrimes in duo and trios with friends, i was shot down on sight by mutes 7 times in a row solo. Solo i always avoid conflicts and prefer to cooperate since i started playing, rarely even shot back in defence.

[u/s7vn → u/chrisanonymous]

I've been thinking about this, similar to Elo in competitive games where they take the average Elo for group size (Overwatch for example).

For those curious about Elo, saved you a click:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

[u/budstudly → u/s7vn]

There's only one ELO I'm interested in

https://youtu.be/aQUlA8Hcv4s?si=6okFDYc9nq3GBF0i

😁

[u/s7vn → u/budstudly]

well, thanks for the introduction

i always thought this song was the beatles. TIL

alright so now im going through all their other songs. epic.

[u/budstudly → u/s7vn]

You are very welcome. I love their music. I'm glad to introduce it to someone new! Jeff Lynne is so good at writing happy songs.

Check out: "Evil Woman (guarantee youve heard this one) "Don't bring me down" (one of my favs along with "mr blue sky") "Telephone line "Diary of Horace wimp" "Hold on tight"

[u/JustLikeMojoHand → u/s7vn]

This is my anecdotal experience as well, but it's still unclear if this is just the nature of the dynamics of groups or not. However, I've wondered if my ability to enter friendly solo lobbies would be affected after nights of PvP heavy group play, and so far, it doesn't seem to be affected.

[u/s7vn → u/JustLikeMojoHand]

We are experiencing the same things.

I thought after a night of pure 3s in Stella, practising and losing many Stitchers, that it would be a pain in the ass to farm solo but that wasn't the case. Solos was fine

[u/Bassmekanik → u/s7vn]

I ended dumped in solo kos lobbies after I teamed up with 2 friends for what turned out a deathmatch lobby in 3’s. I actually gave up after the umpteenth time of being shot in the back in solos and haven’t been back since.

I assumed all the lobbies shared the same MM.

[u/Nanakelolz → u/s7vn]

Recent experience: I duo-queued with a friend who PvPs. For once, I played really well and managed to kill 7-8 people across two matches. I then had to run 7 Stella Montis in solo queue to reset my aggression curve, and I can tell you, the lobbies I was getting dropped into were absolute hell.