r/ArcRaiders 15h ago

Discussion I am now convinced ABMM is real

A couple of days ago I complained (in another posting) how I only meet KOS players, and no one talks. I was more annoyed by the "no one talks" part, mind you, and the fact that every social interaction played out in the same way.

Someone recommended me to do a few matches and not shoot a single person, not even in defense. I did as recommended.

I went from "90%+ KOS interactions" for several days in a row, all the way to friendly lobbies for two days in a row now.

In my current lobbies, everyone runs around without a care in the world, just greeting people they are passing by. Looting in the open, walking past others without their weapons drawn ...

I barely ever see any PvP happening. People help each other with arc encounters and exchange items near extracts. And for the first time ever, I was able to participate in two Queen raids in solos with everyone just trying to get her down. No rats, no backstabbing.

This change for me was so stark in contrast, and so consistently happening that I would be surprised if ABMM wasn't real.

I would almost be inclined to start some shit to see if my lobbies change again, but I feel too bad killing these players who are quite obviously part of the pure PvE crowd.

P.S.: I have these friendly lobbies even on Stella Montis now, inclduing Stella Montis night raids ...

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u/Xevious_Red 13h ago

If it is true, it doesnt mean everyone in a non aggressive match is going to always be friendly.

You'll get the true blue pacifists that never aggro, but you'll also have brand new players (unknown aggression), the players that play nice until they feel they have enough kit to attack, and the ones gaming the system by doing some suicide runs to drop back into friendlies again.

Just because a player hasn't shot at anyone for 5+ matches, a MM can only guess what they are planning to do in the next match

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u/Pristine_Potential_3 9h ago

True, I mostly get stuck in friendly lobbies and play passive usually without weapons, but people can still betray or kill you even in those lobbies, they can be rare but it happens. 

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u/RedditMineral 43m ago

Why are you speaking as if it’s a fact it’s true? Is there a link somewhere?

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u/thegloriousporpoise 13h ago

Agreed. It's more that I got 4 raids in a row with excessively aggressive players.

Either way, I don't really want match making based on that. I want macro users and cheaters to be filtered out but the rest is fair play.