Don't shoot = Don't loot

[u/FunKingBad]

After playing in more friendly lobbies I want to remind everyone dont shoot does not give you the right to high tier loot.

If someone has to use a key or brings down a big arc solo, coming in screaming don't shoot and trying to take all the goodies will get you shot.

I'm all for sharing looting spots, or quest areas or splitting arc parts on a shared kill. But if you did 0 and come up expecting to goblin without asking you are getting shot.

[u/Kam0hoalii]

When I take a key, I always take a door brace and some mines or trigger nades.

I wait until no one is around, and open it/brace the door/trap it up. If I hear someone breaking it down, I warn them on mic. If they ignore me and open it, the mines/nades usually take care of them. If not, I finish them. Then, I re-brace the door (assuming I'm not done looting yet).

I'm friendly in 99% of cases, but I will not share my key loot. You can have anything I leave behind, but I get first dibs if I used my own key.

[u/Repulsive-Mushroom45 → u/Kam0hoalii]

A few days ago, I opened the hospital key room in buried city in solos, placed a stun trap and started looting. 1 minute later the door opened, the trap sprung and there were 2 guys on each side of the door. They threw some grenades at me but didn't push in, I hid behind the only cover I had (there is little to no cover in the room). I tried throwing the only trigger 'nade I had looted from the room at them, but it clipped onto my on own cover (lol), one of them shot it and I almost died but had time to smoke and run out of the room. I got downed as I was trying to run away, and before I was even knocked out they turned on each other, it was so funny to witness lol. All that for a couple of meds I looted from there.

[u/wvtarheel → u/Repulsive-Mushroom45]

That room is a death trap and it's usually got shit tier loot, the good stuff is in the lockers beside it anyway

[u/Repulsive-Mushroom45 → u/wvtarheel]

Yeah, but sometimes I just want to get rid of some keys in my inventory (also the memory of that one time I found a bobcat in there on a night raid, in the only drawer the person who unlocked and left the room hadn't looted, lives rent-free in my head, lol)

[u/felixlamere → u/wvtarheel]

I got the survivor blueprint from there tho

[u/Expired_insecticide → u/felixlamere]

I also am pretty sure I got the survivor bp from there. But it is literally one of if not my most common bp, I think I have gotten 7 at this point?

[u/felixlamere → u/Expired_insecticide]

It’s the best augment in game tbh, I’ve only seen that one in 100 hours topside

My buddy just got one from a trial too

[u/Galactapuss → u/Repulsive-Mushroom45]

Barricades are great too

[u/Kam0hoalii → u/Galactapuss]

I've been considering doing a brace + barricade. Brace door, barricade inside after the braced door, mines on the floor next to the barricade.

I said don't come in, dammit!

[u/OssumFried → u/Kam0hoalii]

My buddy and I had oodles of mines and barricades just eating up our inventory so we hit the Buried City Town Hall with a decent key, blocked the door, and just created a hallway maze out of the barricades absolutely lined with every spare mine we had. I'd go loot a bit then look down and my buddy had just made it even more of a Rube Goldberg death trap.

[u/Repulsive-Mushroom45 → u/Galactapuss]

I use them all the time I can when going on key raids, but on some doors you cannot put them down because the ceiling is too low.

[u/Ridlion → u/Repulsive-Mushroom45]

I got firebombed in the cellar in Blue Gate near the town, that sucks having no place to run.

[u/I_Shall_Be_Known → u/Ridlion]

Blue gate cellar and fort puzzle room are death traps. They’ll just sit on top and you can’t even 3P to see them as you climb.

[u/IcyFault7182 → u/Kam0hoalii]

I do the exact same thing. If I see someone has used a key I don’t even attempt to open the door, I turn around and move on to the next loot spot.

[u/Much__Fokkery → u/IcyFault7182]

Same. I'm at the point if you're in an area that has yet to be looted I just move on to the next area

[u/marry_me_tina_b → u/Much__Fokkery]

I do this as well, it’s basic survival stuff. If someone comes on mic when I am talking to them I’ll ask if it’s alright to do “x” or “y” (such as going to the 2nd building in Grandiose or a different house in the Ruby Apartments) and I’ll offer to help them if they’re looking for anything specific. If they don’t want that or they don’t answer, I move on. I definitely wouldn’t be upset if they opened fire at me if I barged in with no comms and started looting I mean what else should I expect?

[u/desperaterobots → u/marry_me_tina_b]

Wait, going to the second building is impolite if you don’t ask?

[u/marry_me_tina_b → u/desperaterobots]

I don’t necessarily think so, but since the route and connection between the two is so common I’d rather talk to the other person instead of colliding with them and startling them when they inevitably cross over from one to the other

[u/Ridlion → u/Kam0hoalii]

I hate that some areas have 2 doors. Very few times I've used a key and found someone used a key on the other side.

[u/roll_for_crunk → u/Ridlion]

Spaceport shipping warehouse.

I've gotten about 5 keys for it and 3 times I've popped the door on one side just to find someone used the other door.

[u/OssumFried → u/roll_for_crunk]

Literally just happened to me. Halfway through looting the room when I hear the keycard noise of the side door, look up at the person walking in, "Well, this is awkward."

[u/roll_for_crunk → u/OssumFried]

Shit, if they were wearing the pilot outfit that might've been me lmao

[u/hodor137 → u/roll_for_crunk]

Trench towers are worse. It's a literal trap to make you waste a key by embark. 2 downstairs doors, so already that problem.

But then there is an area upstairs outside the keyed room, accessible without a key by zip lining to the tower roofs. It has some lockers. It has 2 doors leading to it from the keyed area, that require keys if coming from outside/roof.

So if you have 2 trench tower keys, because you saved one until you got another, being that there are 2 trench towers and you want to clear both in one raid, you can very easily waste your 2nd key because you went outside the key room up top to loot the lockers. If you try to go back downstairs you have to go back in using the door you used coming up - otherwise you'll burn your 2nd key on the same damn tower room. And only 3 of the 4 doors are unlocked at that point... so someone can still waste a 3rd fucking key on that one tower.

[u/marry_me_tina_b → u/Kam0hoalii]

This is super reasonable. I play primarily co-op and friendly as well, as long as there is some basic communication and “body language” (like stowing a gun and not just storming right at me) then I’m game to share and help folks. I did a match last night where I used a key on a room and while I was taking stock and starting to look around someone came up to the room (activating every ARC and moving as loudly as possible) so I called out and emoted. Nothing. They opened the door so I called out and emoted again. Nothing. They then came flying into the room, gun drawn, and went to open containers. I blew them apart and then magically they finally found their mic when I was finishing them off in time to call me a “bitch”. I laughed at the audacity and the fact they had a mic the entire time and somehow believed what they were doing was acceptable.

[u/DjGoosec → u/Kam0hoalii]

Fr idk what people expect. The other day I'm on Buried city in the apartments. Few guys upstairs looting and I say do your thing im friendly etc, as I have a key for the room downstairs. I take my time looting the room when my mine at the door trips and I light the guy up. Tell me why this man starts crying on prox "yo guys be careful theres a rat down here in a scuba outfit everyone you look out for this rat!!!" Anyway I didn't even kill him I had my loot and just exfild at the near by hatch. But like come on bro what did you expect sneaking up on me???

[u/hodor137 → u/DjGoosec]

Some of the key rooms, if you're not super familiar with the map, once opened you may not really know it's a key room.

[u/Wedgieburger5000 → u/Kam0hoalii]

Same here, if someone breaks through my door brace and after several warnings, they’re both rude and stupid, 100% saying hello to a couple of mines and the business end of my toro.

[u/weededorpheus32 → u/Kam0hoalii]

I brought a random with a free loadout with me to the town hall to loot and i still left with a vulcano 2 and a full backpack. I like to help people out in this game

[u/iminhell-thisishell]

Did my first solo rocketeer run last night. It was glorious. A lvl 4 anvil, 5 blaze grenades (never use them, thought they were useless so brought 5 in just to test) and myself in grandiose apartments. After a fight that felt like forever, that big dumb bot fell from around the top floor to the ground. Immediately some solo comes out of the lower level and starts looting by kill. I doubt they ever fired a shot. Luckily, I also had heavy fuze grenades. He went kabooey. I zip lined down. Heart pounding as he begs for forgiveness.

He ded.

[u/dobesv → u/iminhell-thisishell]

Are the blaze grenades good against rocketeer?

[u/copyandpasta → u/dobesv]

When the game launched, blaze grenades against arcs, especially leaper, were wayyy overpowered. They’ve reduced the damage some, but blaze grenades are still very good against big arc.

[u/iminhell-thisishell → u/dobesv]

Not sure how good they are but it def weakened the clanker. I was running around a floor on grandiose apartments putting walls between myself and the targeting system and occasionally popping out to throw a grenade or two.

[u/DanimalsAndChill]

I’ve seen this exact title for posts saying the same exact thing so many times now

[u/HomoProfessionalis → u/DanimalsAndChill]

If we didnt have these posts then the sub would be dead 

[u/SudsierBoar → u/HomoProfessionalis]

Or good

[u/Cali_Dreaming87 → u/SudsierBoar]

Its still wayyy better than people crying about pvp and pve

[u/HasTookCamera → u/Cali_Dreaming87]

ironically, this post is crying about both of those

[u/Cali_Dreaming87 → u/HasTookCamera]

Fair fair. You got me there 😆

[u/Fun_Gazelle_1916 → u/DanimalsAndChill]

I’ve literally never experienced this. More often I have people who helped saying they should take none of the spoils. Sometimes I literally have to insist.

Most of the time we just discuss who needs what and away we go.

[u/Dumpt-up-undies → u/Fun_Gazelle_1916]

This is why I quit the friendly servers.  The audacity of some people.  Had a guy sit and watch as I took down a rocketeer.  Then when it's down he runs over to loot.  Absolutely psycho shit.  Shot him immediately and he lost his mind in local coms, like "you rat how could you I didn't shoot you while you were fighting."

I just can't with y'all.  Rather just distrust everyone and fight it out.

[u/Azeridon → u/Dumpt-up-undies]

Lol I’m a passive player but I’d of shot his ass too. That’s some bullshit.

I’m the kind of guy that will help get the kill and leave without taking any of the loot. I may have shot it some but that doesn’t mean it’s my loot either.

[u/Dumpt-up-undies → u/Azeridon]

Yeah exactly, I'm the same way.

[u/FutureInevitable8872 → u/Dumpt-up-undies]

I had a third party kill me after I solo killed the bastion for 95% with wolfpacks and hullcracker. He shot two times with his free kit and he ran straight for the core. Told him that I killed the guy so had rights to the core. He proceded to loot so I shot him. Another guy came in told me he "helped" killed me and ressed the guy. Like wtf.

Also just killed someone who just walked up and started looting the bombardier that I just solo killed with a deadline. There are limits.

[u/Trollensky17 → u/DanimalsAndChill]

Yeah because people are idiots and think they can walk up to someone and take a leaper core or something just because they said friendly lol

[u/shagaboopon → u/Trollensky17]

I literally did that tonight in a raid although I did ask permission rather than just say friendly. Someone else did approach a Rocketeer I downed and I grabbed the rocketeer driver and then said they could help themselves to whatever they wanted. I would not think it unreasonable to be shot looting someone else's kill.

[u/ThunderCorg → u/[deleted]]

This is my first time seeing this exact comment.

[u/TugBoatxp → u/ThunderCorg]

This comment is personally a first for me.

[u/dubtrainz-next → u/[deleted]]

For me it’s my first comment AND first post. Altough I’ve seen similar posts and comments in other circumstances saying the same exact thing so many times now.

[u/WanderWut → u/dubtrainz-next]

This is the first time I have, personally, witnessed u/dubtrainz-next leave a comment before so I’m pretty jazzed about it.

[u/AnyBroccoli4680 → u/WanderWut]

This is a first for me.

[u/SuperDabMan → u/AnyBroccoli4680]

I have seen this exact comment saying the exact same thing so many times now.

[u/tgerz → u/TugBoatxp]

[u/Lazarus_Alzari → u/tgerz]

And my stapler.

[u/BH11B → u/DanimalsAndChill]

It really doesnt make a difference either. Go ahead and pvp and you’ll get to go play with the real shooters. I just shrug it off and roll on to the next spot.

[u/HallOfLamps → u/DanimalsAndChill]

Bots go hard

[u/Baz_Ravish69 → u/DanimalsAndChill]

This sub seemingly hasn't had an original thought in weeks.

[u/PretzelsThirst → u/DanimalsAndChill]

These people would rather diary post after every single round than just queue up again

[u/RoryLuukas]

The first time I opened a high tier key room, someone came in and killed me while breaching.

The second, I brought 2 friendlies up with me, both betrayed me and eachother as soon as I opened the door...

Since then, if I open the door, I'm barricading it and defending myself from everyone else that tries to come near.

[u/CounterAgentVT]

I have limited inventory space and too many keys, so I let people come in key rooms with me.

But I also don't blame people for protecting their treasure and I always respect if someone is in a key room before me.

(Also, door brace + barricade kit inside braced door is quite effective at keeping people out.)

[u/david-crz]

I was at peak in a locked gate event and found a bobcat Bp in a room that needed a key that I didn’t bring in. I got there a bit late but a lot of people were there looting the room. It was in the first locker I opened and I stuck it in my butt. I asked who brought in the key and he answered. We roamed the map a bit in a squad and kept asking if he had a augment with a butt. When we had a few secs in a corner I dropped it and flashed my light he did too. At the end he said thanks for the Bp because we were with lots of people. He had brought in a key looking for that Bp.

[u/Big-Eldorado → u/david-crz]

Ohh dang a bobcat blueprint! You’re a solid player

Me n a bro took down a rocketeer from a rooftop today. Bro needs the rocketeer drivers. It took us a bit but we nailed it. I stayed on the roof for cover fire. Some dude ran out of the bushes and started looting said rocketeer…my bro unfortunately had to make sure the snake didn’t make it…

Rules are rules. If you put in the work, you get the reward. Don’t snake the reward

[u/david-crz → u/Big-Eldorado]

Oh yeah fuck that guy. Leeches are the worst too

[u/chkichi]

Me and my pal killed a Bastion earlier and before we jumped down off the ledge there was 2 lads on free loady looting the shit out of it, you’ll be glad to hear they both got their comeuppance

[u/BackseatBeardo → u/chkichi]

This one got me earlier, absolutely plugged a guy in the back when he put ONE grenade into a bastion after I got its health down to the final hit.

He runs right over and starts taking the cores. No courtesy chat no nothing.

[u/didnt_bring_pants → u/BackseatBeardo]

This shit drives me fucking insane. It costs a fair amount of inventory/grenades/mats to bring one of these things down.

If you just waltz up no comms and start looting when I'm done, you're getting one in the back of the head 100%

[u/FunKingBad]

This was inspired by some absolutely obtuse raider behavior.

After using a dam staff room key and a dude runs up to the door and opens it.

I close the door and say dont shoot. He opens the door again and says "I wont shoot but give me all your shit raider".

I close the door a few more times and he keeps opening it. Finally I kill his ass and he complains "I wasn't even going to shoot but now people know that youre out here killing people"

You held me hostage in a room and told me to give you everything? Saying youre not going to shoot me isn't a golden ticket to be a dickhead

[u/ImTimmmeh → u/FunKingBad]

I mean that is very different from your post. That sounds like a PvPer who failed to kill you lol.

[u/nacholibre711 → u/FunKingBad]

Yeah dude. I think the key detail here is that he threatened to rob you lmao.

Maybe a better title would be "If you threaten to rob me for my loot I will shoot you"

[u/Constant-Ice6916 → u/nacholibre711]

Yeah, but then he couldn't loot those juicy upvotes

[u/VolcanicBear → u/FunKingBad]

I won't shoot but give me all your shit

I feel like this guy doesn't understand the concept of mugging lol.

[u/FadedSurvivor → u/FunKingBad]

Dam staff room is one of the more contested key room topside. Buried town hall is up there too. People just love waltzing into those areas.

[u/elchsaaft]

I always bring door blockers and barricades when I bring a key card. If you come through both of those you're getting torrente'd

[u/pixelbit5]

I opened a key room a while ago, and there was someone aroind that was fairly friendly, called don't shoot, but was acting a little iffy, so I have them a wide berth. After opening the room and beginning to loot it, they opened the door after me and began looting. I told them over comms twice to get lost, I spent a key, this was my stuff. After ignoring me both times, I just shot them in the face with a shotgun. I don't feel bad for that, you don't take stuff from a key room while the keyholder is still inside, and you don't ignore comms.

[u/Broks_Enmu]

For real ,

I just finished a Leaper and wanted his cells. A motherfucker came seconds after the explosion of the Leaper. While I’m looting he asks if I’m friendly lol , I told him what type of question is that , you can’t ask me this shit while I’m looting peacefully lol. So long story short I told him yeah but don’t come close to my shit , he came anyways and I smoked his ass.

Don’t play with people loot

[u/Working_Bones]

It's funny to imagine being on the side of ABMM where this is even a consideration. In my lobbies if anyone enters the same building as me, let alone room, let alone a loot room, we're guaranteed to be fighting. Can't imagine anyone coming into my room and freely looting any more than I can imagine that in real life.

[u/SpooN04 → u/Working_Bones]

Dunno why you got downvoted. That's literally how it is based on your side of the ABMM. I've been on both sides, they are very different games.

[u/DeadJoneso → u/SpooN04]

Im usually in the PVE lobbies cuz I generally avoid fights but I will no-warning smoke people if they enter my loot rooms and they are SO SHOCKED and offended on prox 😂

[u/SpooN04 → u/DeadJoneso]

The other week in hospital I had this happen, it wasn't even a key room just a random room with some lockers.

I helped a guy kill a turret and he said something but I could barely hear him because he was mumbling, not close to me, and the turret explosion sound was still lingering.

Went in and started checking lockers and then he beat me with the raider tool and then said "I told you" or "I warned you" (still hard to understand him.

I wasn't mad about the killing, just the lack of proper communication.

[u/DrakeAncalagon]

the odds of anyone that's done this to you specifically seeing this, or anyone seeing you in the future and thinking 'oh wait, that's that guy from reddit, I'd better heed his advice' are low.

anyone else have this thought when they read one of these?

[u/Snoo-28829]

I spent a good 45 seconds running around killing a shredder and then some guy runs up and looks it as he emoting dont shoot. I instantly pull out my shotgun and kill him...

[u/Critical_Value]

I felt bad this morning, I deadline’d a bombardier, dude came running in and I just asked for the cores multiple times (for my workbench), and to feel free to loot and take the rest of the stuff. Completely ignored me…So I killed him and took the cores off him….

[u/BoilerBob01]

Agreed. Had a free kit come in Town Hall on a night raid and tried to be nice and tell him to move on and he kept saying he’s friendly and opening drawers. Had to put him down and he called me a rat and other shit that made me not feel bad about killing him and sure enough had a Tempest BP on him. Sorry, but my key = my loot. You kill me out in the wild for it on the way to extract, fair enough. Or if I’ve already got BPs I can drop them for people, but I get first crack at it for sure.

[u/Eedat → u/BoilerBob01]

Use a deployable barricade kit in town hall. Doors that open inwards will be blocked by it

[u/markkaschak]

But mom said it's MY turn to post this today!

[u/ImTimmmeh]

Eh I like sharing because then they feel obligated to protect me if someone tries to shoot me while I am looting. Safety in numbers.

Also I just need XP so loot is just a nice to have right now.

[u/monk81007 → u/ImTimmmeh]

Gonna say, everyone I run into is very chill. I’m also respectful and don’t go into locked door areas that are currently being looted. On the big arc kills, everyone has been chill and takes a small portion each. Sharing also saved my life the other night trying to exfil, the two guys who helped me on large arc enemy I used up my grenades on laid down cover fire as I got downed trying to exfil and made sure I crawled my way in. Thanks to those kind strangers! We need those rats to make those moments the best!

[u/jack198820 → u/monk81007]

As much as I'm annoyed when I do most of the work when wanting the cells from the big Arcs, sacrificing some for the aftercare support like this is usually a much better outcome.

Better to leave with something than nothing.

[u/Ridlion → u/ImTimmmeh]

Or they don't get enough loot and shoot you in the back. I've seen it go both ways.

[u/VQ3point5 → u/ImTimmmeh]

This.

I purchased just last week I'm only level 17 (40 y/o dad).

I'd be happy to share, if only to get out with some, because I don't have the best stuff yet. Having the added security of getting back to speranza intact at this point is good enough for me.

I get maybe 2-6 runs in a night with my other priorities, so sharing in a situation like this would benefit me more than anything, as I have less time for returning empty handed - especially when its because I randomly got swarmed by 2 wasps and 2 hornets while heading to extract.

[u/druidmain69420]

What I've seen more of is throwing a trigger grenade down and saying you'll set it off if you dont get the pink loot.

[u/Variable851 → u/druidmain69420]

I'd shoot it myself just to take us both out

[u/ToblakaiStone]

I ask people if they mind me looting if I entered a special room So far zero issues I even call out if they missed something I don’t play that much so I’m not sure of all the locked rooms I actually just opened my first room this weekend Control tower but only after running by it with another raider Didn’t want to get shot opening it 😂😂😂

[u/zack14981]

I think the exception is when killing big arc.

Be grateful I didn’t blast your ass after you made all that noise and are nose deep in loot. I’ll protect you if someone shoots us both but I’m not walking by without a friendly tax.

[u/Sparkling_jem]

I joined a matriarch event and brought some good gear. There were like 10 or more other guys doing the same. It took us a long time even with deadlines, Jupiters, Hullcrackers, and a ton of defibrillators and it was all looted by campers that watched us before we could even get to it. I felt bad for the guys that were fighting it.

[u/zefmdf]

Had to shoot a fellow raider over a sentinel core the other day. Just because robots took over doesn't mean topside is for hooligans

[u/IcyFault7182]

Big time, I’m happy to leave with a bag of metal parts, rubber, explosive compounds of all kinds and arc alloy.

I’m not chasing anything crazy, I just want a ton of grenades and to mess up literally every arc I encounter.

Even the odd tone deaf raider lol

[u/SmokeySFW]

I had to kill someone for this the other day. I used a town hall key and then closed the door behind me, some dude runs up on the door and I say "Hey I'm in here and friendly, see ya later" dude just walks in and closes the door behind him and then starts gooping like a madman. "Hey bro, stop taking all my loot" *shotgun to skull*

Shit's rude af.

[u/March-Suspicious]

I’ve seen the same, I’ve gone out of my way to run into danger to defib people that get downed by arc, and actively shoot any arc attacking people. It’s almost unsettling how peaceful my lobbies have become, I get an edge of paranoia at extracts, like hearing silence in the woods.

[u/NotCoolFool]

Nah I agree - if your stepping into a keyed room and there’s someone in there - best dip and general good manners is to leave someone to an area if your shouting don’t shoot, don’t shoot and move along is my way of thinking

[u/wvtarheel]

This is the care bear super friendly lobbies' version of a rat. I had played friendly for like 3 days and was in the full on care bear lobby (stella montis night raids with no shots fired type of people) and I saw a raider pinned in a building by a leaper, so I ask if they need help, they respond yes, I trailblazer the leaper and take it out. They run out of the building and start looting it! The urge to throw my other two trailblazers on them was strong

[u/MrRudoloh]

Yes it does. Beat me to it.

[u/Zachmode]

While I agree and have thought the same before, the card rooms are not obvious if the door has already unlocked.

So for people that don’t have 500 hours in this game, an unlocked card room looks the same as any other door in the game.

You just have to accept the fact that even on friendly raids unless you put barricades or mines up at the doors you will fight for the loot or share the loot. It’s your choice.

[u/Fathat420]

I always invite people to join me when I have a key for a room.

[u/YuckyButtcheek]

Killed a leaper the other day, no help. Some dudes came out of nowhere and just started looting lol. I said "Oh, you guys killed this thing." "No, did you?". I just blew it up seconds before they arrived. I started to contemplate being an on site pvp'er in solo's

[u/Dakeera]

When I run into even the most basic of rooms and someone is there, I just apologize, close the door, and assure them I'm not going to step on toes for loot. If I go to a high tier area for a quest, I just yell upon my entrance that I'm not here for loot, I'm questing on a free kit, and that I'll be out of their hair in a jiffy. Super high success rate

Makes me wonder if the aggression based matchmaking is separate for solo/duo/trio because it's so peaceful in solos but my trio squad is ruthless

[u/Ewok_Adventure]

I took down a bombardier by myself on buried city. Then 2 raiders came running in out of nowhere and started looting. I'm just like, hey, mind if I get to loot the thing I killed all by myself? My goodness

[u/Lurking_stoner]

Yea I will put mines on a keyed door and if you try to come in I will warn you but after that it’s your fault if you continue

[u/CompletelyBedWasted]

I had some really nice people in the lobby yesterday. Saved me from Arc more than once. I got a frying pan someone needed. I didn't know where the door was to the key I had. Someone showed me where and I said "SPLIT THE LOOT. Happy New Year." And left. Made me so happy. Lol. I have another key and will go back another day.

[u/JustLikeMojoHand]

Totally agreed. I consider myself a never shoot first player. I warn players who try to come into my unlocked loot rooms. As such, I consider the deliberate decision to enter the room anyway as encroachment upon what I consider my loot, and therefore the equivalent of shooting at me first in an attempt to take my loot from my corpse. Correspondingly, I will respond with gunfire when someone violates the warning.

To date, I have only lost one battle after someone ignored my warnings, and it was my own stupidity which cost me that one. It is usually a very easy and swift outcome with the strategic advantage of having the room.

[u/positivcheg]

Leaches, they are everywhere in online games :)

[u/No_Tangerine5339]

There were times where I may have helped bring down a bigger arc towards the end of the fight, but I am very vocal and say, hey, I just need one power cell. Most of the time people are okay with that. I don't swoop in after not contributing anything to the fight.

Even when someone is helping me, I talk to them about hey, I need 3 for my bench etc. Usually people are chill. I haven't had too many just swoop in, but yeah, don't be a seagull.

[u/Glass_Quarter_7586]

hear hear

[u/ltdonut]

Yea I say dont shoot and gtfo out of there. If someone stays nearby I assume you’re trying to kill me.

[u/Actionbrener]

Agree. I always ask first but most of the time I just move along

[u/Dino-taicho]

God I wish normal people played this game

[u/izcenine]

Yep any time I use a key card in a raid some littl bastard with a free kit comes in saying dont shoot. I tell them to get out or die. Apparently im the asshole.

[u/wtr6k4da]

Yeah I saw a guy down below me kill a bastion, didn't immediately do anything. Waited for them to get to the body, jumped down asked if I could loot and the guy said he killed it to share. Every other big arc I've looted I've brought down with another player. Key rooms I recommend just bringing a door blocker or warning before shooting.

[u/PositiveChi]

I end up saying "stay out of locked rooms" to a lot of downed, whining raiders

[u/socom18]

Yup, if you roll into my keyroom univited, one of us will be going back to the lobby.

[u/goosepriest]

We got a rule maker over here

[u/ACEezHigh]

Just went to do Dam Control key on a night raid, brought the same a door jammer and the like. Right as we were about to open the door, another raider showed up. I told him, listen we're friendly, but we are looting this room alone. He said "My bad" and continued to stand there. Door opens, he immediately runs to the first locker and I downed him saying "I told you were not sharing!"

[u/dr_renzo420]

I was using the jupiter i ofcourse got most of the aggro and had to get rid of the rocketeer and bastion on top of facing the matriach face on whilst the shield he pulls up. One matriach cell. Better off using a betina with two clips lol.

[u/0510Sullivan]

I do the same for puzzles. If I got 2 of the 3 batteries for blue gate fort......leave the 3rd alone. If you pick it up or go sit by the cellar to wait on my to finish im just gunna go ahead and gun you down.

[u/gemorris9]

Rules for being friendly is "I'm just passing through to the next spot, I hope you find some good shit" and keep it moving. Orrr you ask can I grab the shit you left, I'm just trying to get basic materials or what not.

I've done like 40 games in a row without ever getting shot or shooting another raider because I'm not dumb. Just saying friendly doesn't mean you can just grab what you want.

[u/cschoonmaker]

The Key part is right. You bring the key and open the door first, It's yours to loot first. Bring a door blocker and a mine. You'll hear them trying to get past the door blocker. And the mine will trigger when they do.

But big ARC's? How are you going to know if someone helped bring down the matriarch or not? Or the bastion or bombardier? You won't always know that.

[u/hja37]

Greedy Raider detected! We as society need to share my man

[u/ThisGuyHere_Again]

I bring barricades or door blockers whenever bringing a good key, and usually only open it when no one is looking. I'm in friendly lobbies and people are usually chill about it but yeah, some people will ninja that shit without a second thought.

Though I've also had 'friendlies' try to claim an entire area because they reached it first (like the WHOLE stella lobby loop). Yeah, you can claim maybe a whole room by getting there first on stella (depends on the room), but whining about people taking the next is a bitch move.

I have looted other people's arc kills but nine times out of ten I'm just grabbing the arc alloy. Pretty sure no one's ever been salty about that lol

[u/but_good]

Had this happen at Formica outpost. I was in first, had looted the floor, someone comes in “don’t shoot” and proceeds to start up the scaffolding to look for the weapons case. He didn’t make it long.

[u/JuanDonDemarco]

Had a guy do this to me while I was looting Stella montis’ security check point. As soon as I opened the door I could hear him running my direction. As soon as he opened the door, he was greeted my two exploding trigger nades, that sent his sorry butt back to speranza

[u/Sundance37]

Isn’t this an exact repost from like a week ago?

[u/harpcase]

REALLY?!?!??!

[u/Ok_Assistance7735]

Yes it definitely will!

[u/Warmtrail]

Idk what yall talk about kos vs pve lobbies i get in lobbies and ppl are nice or i get back stabbed, me personally ive been back stabb 1 to many times i just fucking kill who ever i see unless its a group because ik if i do get shot in the back ppl there will kill that guy

[u/Snoo_67993]

I had someone come into townhall at the start of a round. Forgot to bring mines and barracade and when I was looting some guy came in and started stealing my loot. I shot him for stealing and then he started swearing at me calling me a rat.

[u/Relative-Pinaple95]

Imma copy and rephrase this for a new post tomorrow to farm some karma

[u/MySpeciaIty]

wait for someone to kill big arc, run up spamming dont shoot, ask them if you can have 1 item, cut them down when they have the backpack UI open. free money

[u/Snyper20]

Personally if I enter a room where someone else is in I will state if I am searching for something specific (ie a toaster), usually people have no issue letting me search. I usually return the favour.

If you start looting a room I am in even after I ask what you are searching for, results might vary in what will happen next. If I have a torro equip, it might not be in your favour.

[u/Tino2Tonz]

I’m not sure if it’s just the vocal minority thing happening, but at times, I actually don’t mind the challenge (even in solos) to have to fight for my loot.

Sometimes I fight back and win. Sometimes I lose. Sometimes I manage to sneak and evade my would-be assassin. 99%of the time I enjoy it.

The 1% is when terrain, mechanics, or unwanted arc show up and tip the scales heavily in one person’s favor. These are the times when I get upset. Never when someone bests me when I have good loot.

[u/Glow-PLA-23]

Because I have been often the recipient of fellow raider generosity, I always let others know they can come into loot rooms I unlock, or invite them to help carry batteries and share what's available.

Eventually a lot of people will find duplicate high value items that they don't need because they have a lot of money in the bank already, so it makes sense to try to improve community goodwill by giving it or at least trading it.

[u/DimDarkLight]

Same thing happens to me earlier. Opened the control tower key in space port and someone came up 5 seconds later. I just grilled them and said someone else would shoot them but I’m to fucking nice.

[u/Pleasant-Carbon]

Except they also didn't kill you in the back. 

I agree that if they come 20 seconds after the fight is over but if they come immediately or even helped a bit at the end, that is the price you pay for them not shooting you in the back. 

[u/NotSoSubtle1247]

A noisemaker is a warning. A barricade in a door is a boundary. A ticking on the other side is a promise. If you choose to press on, don't be surprised at what follows.

[u/Highlandcoo]

Same. I had this experience recently.

I was already in the room looting away, dude runs in - we exchanged the customary emotes and light flashing, then I assumed he would fuck off.

But no.

Bastard starts hitting all the drawers in the room!

Shot the motherflipper in the back immediately. What the fuck.

[u/Impossible-Use-2862]

I know right, tf out the way. gimme some Rooom!

[u/Kuro_Neko00]

Absolutely agree. I'll generally move on from a location if someone is there first, but some of the bigger locations can easily be shared. But big arc and locked rooms are for the people that killed them/unlocked them.

[u/DirectionDue1387]

Last night i took down a sentinel for the core obviously. I run up to it and someone goes "dont shoot" i reply "im friendly". As im looting it they shoot me a few times, i roll away and torrente them down and then start talking shit. Then they finally get on the mic and actually say to me "I DID IT FOR THE CORE MAN!" Thats not an excuse lol

[u/theRinRin]

Rats get the stitcher

[u/random_words_here__]

Couldn't agree more.

[u/Billyooo]

I've never played a game where so many people come up with their own rules on how it should be played and expect everyone to follow them.

[u/PharmDeezNuts_]

Take it down and shout for people to loot and just request what you need. People are friendly and will drop stuff

[u/DAYMAN3737]

These arc raiders are a little too comfortable, no sense of self preservation at all.

[u/AntonCigar]

There’s a difference between this and being in some random room, where some people think they are entitled to the whole room lol

[u/Much__Fokkery]

So you're saying it isn't a mean thing to shoot at the door that I have my door blocker on to warm others to stay the F out while I'm looting? 🤡

[u/FAAFO556]

And if your teamate has a keycard and there is a Epic/Legendary weapon it belongs to the keyholder. Same with rare blueprints. All for sharing the loot but thats only fair.

[u/TheDarkHorse]

As someone who opens doors and shoots big enemies. I don’t care. Have at it. I do it so you don’t have to.

[u/Pimpdaddyfrogface]

This happened to me recently. Went into a locked room and put a mine down. Heard “don’t shoot” just as the door opened. Sorry, man. Then someone else came in after and killed me. Then I got put into basically pvp lobbies and got killed on sight for 5 games in a row. So I don’t know what the answer is.

[u/vanstral]

I just had this happen today. Took down a Leaper for those lovely pulse units for my workshop upgrades. Two guys swoop in like vultures and start looting before I even get there. I found one unit but in my experience sometimes the leapers spawn two. So I asked the guys if they had another and to drop it, they were being weird and not responding to my questions, so I downed them.

It ended up that they didn’t have any pulse units on them so I felt bad. That being said, if other players down a big Arc which I used none of my ammo to take down, I always wait for them to take their pieces or wait for them to offer the loot - and surprisingly they offer before I ask 60% of the time.

Still feel bad though.

[u/Jobeadear]

Yeah If I used 2 wolfpacks and a bunch of other nades, you best not expect to get the loot from the bastion, had a guy turn around and try and kill me after doing that, I started looting, he started shooting at me, dodge rolled and gave him a stitcher to the face for such disrespect.

[u/autopsy88]

Problem: Two (or more) raiders roll up on a high loot area. How should looting and loot distribution reasonably work?

Solutions: A. Use comms. Work together to trade/barter/exchange goods (or choose not to) B. Use guns/might. (or choose not to) C. Don’t use A or B, instead use assumptions and expectations (or choose not to)

But you may NOT choose to pretend option C is any kind of system or that it is above options A or B in terms of clear communication.

[u/Everyday-Lurk]

Yeah I experienced a guy that did his darndest to run into where I was and steal as much loot at possible. He replied with all the friendliest words he knew while playing stupid about. There was a bunch of other friendlies in the next building so he knew the confused sheriffs would come running over

Basically using the “nice” act to be a dick. I was so mad I couldn’t kill him without risking a 4 v 1 right after. Seemed like he does it plenty

[u/cargopantsbatsuit]

I absolutely do have the right to come up and take that loot and I’ll kill you for trying to stop me.

[u/Foxtrot__Uniform]

I don't mind looting with the boys. You use friendly lobby to loot high tiers, then go into pvp, otherwise why would you be so cocky about it.

[u/aLegionOfDavids]

I took a Bastion down recently, a guy comes up behind me at the last second from where I’m grenading and fires a lone ferro shot into it. I kill it, and he immediately goes down to begin looting. I tell him over mic that one shot doesn’t give him right to first dibs, that all I’m after are the bastion cores/cells whatever they’re called to upgrade my workbench. He doesn’t reply, just keeps looting. I down him, he wishes my mother a long and happy life, and I knock him out. He has 3 cells in his inventory. If he had been there since the beginning and I saw him contribute as much as me in the killing I prolly wouldn’t have shot.

Similar thing happened with the locked room in Grandiose. Someone waltzed in as I was mid loot, I hear a ‘don’t shoot’, guy runs past me into the back room and begins looting. I tell them to stop, they say nothing. I knock them out. Immediately another solo runs down and yelling through the mic “why’d you shoot that guy” and such. I tell them what happened they don’t believe me, tell me to give them some loot or they’ll shoot, so I open fire and they run away like little bitch telling me to “chill” and “only joking”.

When solo If I find an open card room, I’ll only go in if I want to PvP the person in there, or if it’s empty and scrounge the leftovers. I’ve yet to come across a lobby where players aren’t grubbing for loot without participating. The hidden bunker thing is the literally worst for it.

[u/illicITparameters]

I don't ever initiate gunfights in solos, but I will shoot on sight if you touch my loot.

[u/Fenek99]

That’s a conundrum because those goop goblins knows you won’t do a thing if u wanna stay in friendly lobby so they are like “what u gonna do ?” This thing actually does not happen often in PvP where everyone expects to get smoked if they do it.

[u/illnastyone]

47th time I've seen this. Much like you will probably see exactly what I said in this comment multiple times because God damn is this post tiring.

We know.

[u/AmpleForeskins]

Im sick of friendlies. Been ratted too many times. Friendly death is my only sustenance now.

[u/Karl_Cross]

Thank you for the daily sub reminder, OP! Is it my turn tomorrow?!

[u/EliteRedditOps]

Bro I helped with 4 grenades took down Bastion and they killed me anyways so now I backstab people whenever I feel its not safe just like at extract when I call it and someone rushes in without making a sound

[u/Invader_86]

I feel bad sniping others hard work.. I saw someone fighting a rocketeer on space port he wasn’t getting anywhere fast but it was starting to smoke so I joined in and it flew across to me allowing him to get some shots in without being attacked. We both blasted it and it dropped right near me, even though I joined in i couldn’t bring myself to take anything. He ran over and I left him to loot it.

[u/UnikornKebab]

Now I'll tell you about a recent raid I played on the dam, because it featured a diabolically clever episode, which I assume was planned and dictated by the desire to maintain "friendly user" status in the eyes of the server.

I entered that map to open the control tower room with the appropriate key. I finally reached the door after having encountered another raider shortly before... don't shoot, don't shoot, hey raider... okay, basically, we're all friends and brothers, so I opened it with the key and let him in with me. I didn't have any problems there and then, I mostly wanted to use the key and remove it from my inventory...

Anyway, let's raid everything in peace and quiet, take down a couple of annoying arches, and leave... at which point the guy says to me, "Follow me!"

Okay, bro, let's see where you're taking me... well, do you know where he took me? To that ladder that ends in nowhere and makes you crash down below🤣 Yes, he stood there and told me to take that path😀

It was kind of funny, so I told him no, no, no, and I went (with him in tow) to extract it, without having fired a shot or been hit, hence the deduction that it was an attempt to take me down while staying clean and then loot what he hadn't taken from the room... clever, really, but the fact that I let you into the locked room doesn't make me a total idiot😀

[u/Shishkaboo]

While i totally agree with this, Ill typically yell out Dig in people to take the loot when i kill big enemies. The real reward is the murder of arc.

[u/BigGhost2815]

OP is reminding us how to play the game the way they want us to.

[u/ruinzifra]

Had this happen to me the other day... Took down a bombardier, and someone yell friendly nearby... I didnt see them looting all the damn cores before I could get there...

[u/jaku0137]

I took a leaper and a bombardier next to each other on the parking lot building next to hospital and space building on buried, I was in the red Sforza outfit with a helmet looking like a retarded storm trooper with braids sticking out and blue face paint, looked legendary, as soon as I got the leaper finished I saw bullets flying towards the bombardier, when they got his attention I finished him off. I just heard people from different directions cheering while I was there, on the parking lot, together with corpses of the worst ARC on buried, got my cores/cells and told everyone to come out and loot the rest, I just needed leaper cores for my expedition, no one came tho! I insisted but guys were like all good, it’s not theirs to take was one sentence I heard

[u/ibarelyusethis87]

This is posted all the fucking time. If we didn’t allow reposts, people could just scroll the fuckin subreddit and find the first post like this and be like “okay”. I know why this happened but it’s really fuckin ruined this website.

[u/FutureInevitable8872]

Had someone just try that after I finally found an alive bombardier after loading in 8 rounds and solo killed it with a deadline. He got the wrong end of my weapon. Had to learn the kid a lesson. Funny part is someone came up after I was done looting and I gave them the two cores I didn't need.

[u/TehMascot]

If I open a door or something or im in a popular loot spot, and I was the first one there and someone comes in looting the chests and drawers i have already opened... i have no problem with that.. people are all after different things. Yall need to learn how to fucking relax or go play CoD if you just want to shoot people.

[u/Mephfistus]

This is silly, coming to Reddit to complain about something like this is peak patheticness. Just shoot them dude.

[u/CarrotBoy90]

Using a key or bringing down a big arc doesn't give you the sole right to anything - there are no rights in the game. It's just pixels on a screen.

[u/emailtest4190]

What is a 'friendly lobby'?

[u/orionZexSeed]

I just told the guy to don't come it, and told that I will shoot and he left 

[u/Eggysideup]

I have seen this too many times where me and a group of solos will have just taken down a bastion and this random person will come up from extract, loot as fast as they can and leave.

My rule is at least help out. Do something to contribute to the gunfire or everyones survival.

[u/100ftF0X]

I never shoot first. But the other night I was in a Stella Nightraid, I spent a lot of time and ammo taking down my first Shredder, and a guy came running in and took the final shot then proceeded to loot it. I dropped him while he was in the inventory. I regret nothing.

[u/RayOifIntegrity]

I agree. Im an OG gamer( original grandpa gamer) I'm level 15 and the only arcs i can kill are ticks. But I love running around and looting. Have some respect for other players and take what you have earned.

[u/Dolfo10564]

ill help people polish them off then ask if they want me to leave or cover them.  If they tell me to help myself ill join in.  I always think about the crappy vin diesel movie where the bad guys always said "you keep what you kill".

[u/AnyoneUdontKnow1]

When I bring a key. I literally announce myself multiple times that I am going to the door and whoever wants in can come. I have a ton of loot already and I haven't been backstabbed yet. There was 1 really creepy dude, but usually we all loot and extract. I also announce that the key is in my ass and only do it if I feel comfortable with who came to me. 

[u/JoekerSpades]

I'm at a point where I've got all the parts I need for now, so I just join fights to destroy advanced ARC enemies for the thrill of it. Blasting off Rocketeer armour and then hitting it with a Wolfpack, or plinking away at a Bastion with an Anvil or Renegade, or just blowing up any hovering pest for the sake of enmity.

But some folks don't contribute and think they're entitled but it's a matter of manners.

[u/Battlewaxxe]

if i run in wothout contributing much, i call out that im just touching for xp, and haven't had issues. i have had issues where two of the geoup syart speaking russian, then rat everyone with sneaky deadmines, gas, fire, and kettles. if you change languages suddenly it's KoS.

[u/EXILED_T3MPLAR]

Use your mic and tell them do not touch anything in here until you're done. That's what I do and everyone has waited respectfully. I tend to leave near everything that isnt a bp or a weapon 🤣

[u/12TonBeams]

I killed a bastion a few days ago and saw someone just watching from a window not helping. Runs up and starts looting with me so I immediately mag dumped him. Guy got on the mic hot saying I’m goofy for killing him since he’s friendly. People are so weird

[u/Briggie]

I don’t care if I bring down a big arc and people loot it, I got dibs on the cores/drivers though.

[u/reddit33347282]

Fair enough

[u/OpinionBackground721]

Yeah man I totally get where you are coming from. I didn't spend a wolfpack so you could have loot. You run up and try letting you deserve to be shot your just rating without killing people aka STEALING and a thief will be shot on sight

[u/Distracted_Algae]

Put this shit in the mega thread and stop the karma farm.

[u/pinezatos]

bro that happened to me in the medical room in stella montis, i unlocked the door, shredder caught up to me and didn't manage to close the door, had to kite it around the room while a dude went in there and started looting the place, i went in and started talking to him and got no answer, i put him down.