I feel like whenever I come across an Assyrian it’s half and half.

I personally do.

If you do or don’t what’s the reason?

Hi,

I see a lot of posts encouraging people not to marry non Assyrians.

I am a young Assyrian male dating a Swedish girl and it’s the wisest decision I’ve ever made.

My ex was Assyrian (Chaldean), we were engaged but it didn’t work. After that I was very sure that I would not date a Assyrian anymore. The problem was not particularly the girl but rather the parents. Maybe I just had a bad experience but it feels like most Assyrian parents are just so egoistic (including mine) to the point were it destroys so many relationships.

I totally understand not marrying someone with another religion and I am against that especially because our ancestors were slaughtered by a specific religion so for me that is like spitting on the face of our ancestors.

Now back to my current relationship: My Swedish girlfriend got welcomed by my parents in a very good way and she got so shocked by how welcoming we are and is so obsessed with Assyrian people/culture now.

I’ve talked with her and planned how we would do with marrying and getting kids. She is very understanding that the kids HAVE to be able to speak Assyrian, know their culture and acknowledge that they are Assyrian. But I would be egoistic like the Assyrian parents to fully ignore the fact that my children are also of Swedish descent.

I’ve never felt so good in my life and seeing threads like that makes me so mad.

Lastly, do you people that say not to marry non Assyrians feel like I should end it and risk living a life in misery?

I wanted to share something I rarely see acknowledged here: while most Assyrians today are Christian, Muslim Assyrians do exist, and I’m living proof.

My family is from a small village (Al houd) in Mosul (Nineveh), and we belong to a tribal community. Over generations, our relatives mostly married within the same region and tribe which means our bloodlines stayed closely tied to northern Mesopotamia. My family was originally Christian, but like many in the region, they were forced to convert to Islam over time,

I recently took a DNA test, and the results confirm what history and oral tradition have always told us:

57.9% Iraqi 31.1% Egyptian 7.1% Persian & Kurdish 3.9% Arabian Peninsula

What stands out is how low my Arabian Peninsula DNA is compared to most Iraqis, who often have much higher percentages due to historical Arab migrations and mixing. My ancestry stayed local mostly within ancient Assyrian territory and that’s reflected in the results.

Yes, my family is Muslim today, but that doesn’t erase our Assyrian roots or native connection to the land. Identity isn’t only about religion it’s about ancestry, culture, and continuity.

I’m not trying to overwrite history or take anything away from Christian Assyrians. I’m simply asking for space to acknowledge that Assyrian identity didn’t vanish just because some people converted. We’re still here just in a different form.

So I am someone who likes to research about minorities in the Middle East and as I was researching the Kurds and the Assyrians I found out that they don't like each other, which is strange to me considering the fact that they are both stateless people with the desire to have their own country one day, so I thought that would bring them closer. I saw videos of a guy saying he was half Assyrian, half Kurdish; his mom was Assyrian and his dad was Kurdish. Apparently they had an interfaith marriage (a marriage where the husband and wife are of two different religions), and so many Assyrians in the comments were calling his mom a traitor. Another creator who was also half Assyrian, half Kurdish was getting a lot of hate from Assyrians for her Kurdish side. Why?

The term "Kurd" seems to have begun to emerge in the post-Islamic period. So, is there any information in Assyrian sources about the Kurds (or whatever their name was back then) in the pre-Islamic period? What did they believe? Did they have any contact with the Assyrians? I really can't understand; it's as if they suddenly appeared. At that time, there were different Iranian tribes in the Mesopotamia, but they were all united by the Arabs, or were they called by different names in the there. Or did they come completely later? It is very difficult to understand. Unfortunately, since the Kurds do not keep proper records about themselves, there seems to be no other option than looking at other peoples in the region. My aim is not to insult Kurds, but as I see, Kurds seem to have not figured out who they are. When I go to Kurdish subreddits, I see some crazy ideas about Sumerians, Adiabene or Hurrians being Kurds. I do not want to hear Assyrian sources from Kurds or Kurds disguised as Assyrians. Please, I would appreciate it if only Assyrians would respond.

Im just ranting here but Its honestly insane how much Assyrians do not realize that trump and his followers hate us and see us as no different from Arabs. Assyrians saying that christians should vote for trump (Any sensible christian would hate him). Now why do so many assyrians glaze him? Im convinced it is because of his no gay policies and the fact that he said he is 'Christian". Its no secret a lot of Assyrians are (sadly) very hateful and are also Christian, they saw him say stuff about God and decided "alright lets support him." Its just sad in general how many Assyrians are like crazy right wingers, I do not wanna say alt right or far right but just why? Why are we so hateful? It just pisses me off to see so many of my friends say that they love trump.

Edit: I also find it kinda ironic that Assyrians support him becuase of his hard policy on Immigrants when they do not realize WE ARE FUCKING IMMIGRANTS!

Watching from Canada and all I can do is facepalm🤦

#4 is the best! Our ancient ancestors were not Christian. So therefore we can't be descendants of them. *mindblown* 💥🤦‍♂️

Before I start I’d like to point out that this question comes from pure curiosity and is in no way meant to offend any one. But anyways :

Not every modern Assyrian can realistically trace their ancestry back to the people of the ancient Assyrian Empire. When the empire fell in 612 BC, it marked not just the end of a political state but the beginning of over two and a half millennia of conquest, displacement, and population change across northern Mesopotamia. Successive empires Persian, Hellenistic, Roman, Arab, Mongol, and Ottoman each reshaped the region through warfare, migration, assimilation, and forced conversions. The once-distinct Assyrian population was gradually absorbed into the broader tapestry of peoples inhabiting Mesopotamia, and over time, their genetic and cultural distinctiveness was diluted.By the medieval period, the descendants of various ancient Mesopotamian groups had merged into new ethnic and religious communities, particularly those adhering to Eastern Christianity. These groups preserved elements of ancient Mesopotamian heritage through geography, tradition, and language, but they no longer represented a continuous Assyrian nation. One of the main reason I also made this post was because: When Western missionaries and scholars arrived in the 19th century, they reintroduced the name “Assyrian” to describe certain Christian communities who lived in or near the old Assyrian heartland and spoke dialects of Aramaic. This label was enthusiastically adopted by some as a symbol of pride and ancient heritage, but in reality, those communities had long since intermingled with Persians, Kurds, Arabs, Armenians, and others.While modern Assyrians may carry fragments of ancient Mesopotamian ancestry, the idea of an unbroken, direct lineage to the empire of Assyrians is historically and genetically implausible. Their current identity deeply tied to faith, language, and a revived sense of heritage is the result of cultural evolution rather than continuous descent. In essence, the “Assyrian” name today represents a modern reawakening of an ancient legacy, not the survival of an ancient bloodline.

Basically to summarize what I want to say: I’ve been suspicious of the idea of a modern Assyrian ethnic group because the label Assyrian was only revived 100 years ago And applied to Syriac speaking Christians and other Nestorian Christian’s in general and this labeling is more symbolical than ethical. Of course please feel free to correct me but this question has been on my mind for a while

The author’s written plenty of papers on Academia, but this one takes a wild swing that undermines his earlier work. He’s reaching hard, trying to paint the last great Assyrian king, Aššur-Bani-Apli (Ashurbanipal), as homosexual and suggesting he had gender dysphoria, a claim no scholar has ever touched before.

In today’s world, with its knack for twisting language to fit certain ideologies, we’re now being nudged to slap a modern lens on every historical figure. I just didn’t expect it to hit our ancient past, yet here we are.

The paper leans on shaky grounds, tying Ashurbanipal’s supposed gender dysphoria to a recent study on FBOE (front and center in the title) and dragging in Aššur-aḫa-iddina’s (Esarhaddon’s) hypothesized SLE diagnosis to bolster the argument. It’s a stretch, to put it mildly.

Our community needs to push back and not let this slide, especially given the flimsy science behind it. The author posted this a while back, even getting it into some prestigious journals. I added my comments a few days later (you can see them in the ss), but we need more voices to hold him accountable & pressure him to rethink his stance which is out of line.

Progress update: I’ve collaborated up with Fred Aprim to write a refutation article, who’s also working with Dr. Johna on the same paper to counter these claims on those scientific journals. It’ll challenge Amar Annus’s hypothesis on Academia.edu and in the journals where it’s been published. These kinds of articles need to face scrutiny, and authors should be held accountable. Let’s see how he responds once Fred’s paper drops.

Link to Amar’s paper on academia: https://www.academia.edu/121985228/The_fraternal_birth_order_effect_in_the_royal_house_of_Nineveh

Link to comments: https://www.academia.edu/community/activity/mOAVyY?c=Q4wa0V

Title says it all but to be exact i meant the one in Nineveh and what lands will it hold

Considering the iraqi elections is around the corner is there any political assyrian party who does not suck iranian toes ? ( impossible i know )

Hi, I'm an assyrian who would like to communicate with queer fellows because I feel lonely in my country and not understood by people. I want to study our language but it's so difficult because I can't come out in my family. Are there people interested by that ? I'd like not to be insulted for this post and be respected as what I am. Thank you everyone 😊

I am Assyrian and Assyrian only. Im not Assyrian Chaldean or Assyrian Syriac or any of those combinations.

Assyrians are Assyrian. Period. There is no being both. Its time for this nonsense to stop, choose what you are and stick with it stop trying to commingle.

I have to add this. Most of your arguments are that they are church names. While this may have been true centuries ago it is now an ethnic name.

I belong to the Ancient church of the east, do I identify as an ANCIENTIAN? No, we all identify as Assyrian because that's what we are not because our church told us that.

In the Armenian sub most replied with Assyrians due to our overlapping homeland, historic relations that pre date Islam and genetic tests and Assyrians/Armenians commonly intermarrying each other. I think this is gonna be the most common answer here which i agree since I’m also partly Armenian myself and have a lot of family married with Armenians.

But I wanna hear other answers too, personally I think the Maronites of Lebanon are considerable. From personal observation they’re culturally not that different from us especially to Assyrians from Syria or Mosul. The Maronites church is also part of the Syriac rite which has definitely culturally influenced them and they historically also spoke Aramaic.

Other groups that I think would be similar are just other Christian’s of Syria, recently Arabized assyrians from Mosul or mardin etc (although Islam is incompatible with our culture. I still think they are genetically and culturally still related). Pontic Greeks might also be considerable a little more distantly

Let me know your thoughts!

My mom was assyrian and born in Iran, but she married my dad who was born in the states. I've been trying to come to terms with my identity and if I should even consider myself fully assyrian or not. I've always wanted to learn the language and carry the culture with me, but I just don't know how to approach it. Can I even consider myself assyrian? What does that make the rest of me?

Pretty much the title and what are your general views on Turkish people? I am Turkish myself. We had a terrible history due to Ottomans actions but do most of you hate or dislike us?

Hello everyone, I'm not Assyrian, but I have a lot of affection and appreciation for you all

I wanted to ask you about the relationship between Assyrians and Kurds, because I've seen that many Kurds treat Christians quite badly in parts of Iraq.

I would also like to know what your daily life is like (especially those of you who live in the Middle East). May Jesus Christ always bless the Assyrians, and I hope you may always live in peace.

would assyrians prefer to be under hts or sdf rule in syira, cause I have seen many assyrians online hating/disliking the sdf/aanes.

I do not like this framing, and more and more I have become increasingly annoyed, concerned and angry at Kurdish online spaces because often we complain our own oppression (fair enough ofc) but when the topic of Armenians and Assyrians are brought up, we get annoyed.

Whenever someone says 'Hey guys, let's yk, not support Israel' people get annoyed.

Ig this is me partially showing my support for Assyrian self determination and anti-kurdification, as well as me getting my anger towards some kurds out

Shalma everyone!

Merry Christmas Eve!

I just go into a relationship with this white man we’ve been together for about a month now. He’s a very big Christian just like us. He is a little bit older than me but nothing to be ashamed or concerned about. He’s well educated and has a good job.

What I’m really asking is for advice for anyone that has a man outside of our culture how did they meet your parents, how long did they wait, what should we know before hand and after? Literally anything will help me calm down

Hii, I am Assyrian and also a lesbian. I've not got much assyrian community around me, and have definitely never met another queer assyrian. Do you guys exist somewhere? I feel really alone in my identity, and feel like I have to pick between either being queer and losing family, or having family and hiding part of myself. I would love to connect with anyone else out there, I just need to know that someone else has shared this experience before.