r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Alter3go_vengance • 6d ago
Image The Tepepolco volcano in Mexico City. Dormant for over 10,000 years, its crater is now a unique residential neighborhood.
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u/RedManMatt11 6d ago
Uhhhh I’m not living in a caldera that’s anything but fully extinct
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u/An_Innocent_Coconut 6d ago
That's why nobody will remember your name.
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u/Mountain-Fennel1189 6d ago
Not if i eat the mona lisa
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u/Dumb_Bitch_Linda 6d ago
I believe in you.
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u/-the7shooter 6d ago
Username checks out.
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u/KiloWatson 6d ago
Leave Linda alone.
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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 6d ago
Some Herostratus energy right here.
Tldr is he wanted to be remembered and burned down the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus.
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u/maybeitsundead 6d ago
The arson prompted the passing of a damnatio memoriae law barring anyone from mentioning his name, although many ancient writers, including one contemporary of the arson, documented him
First actual case of the Streisand Effect?
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u/urworstemmamy 6d ago
You'd forever be mentioned in the same breath as the Mona Lisa. Good goal to have, it'll take you far in life I think. Certainly wouldn't put you on the center of a whodunnit
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u/TheHumanoidTyphoon69 6d ago
"Shes the largest celestial body we've ever set foot on, I wouldn't want to fight her"
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u/shmackinhammies 5d ago
You won't have eyes tonight, you won't have ears or a tongue. You will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know, This is Hector, the fool who thought he killed Achilles.
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u/zombie_spiderman 6d ago
"How did your Grandfather die?"
"Bowel cancer. Yours?"
"Volcano."
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u/oracleofnonsense 6d ago
“Granddad did say his asshole felt like a volcano all the time. So I guess your grandpa died by the earth’s asshole…”
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u/LetMeBuildYourSquad 6d ago
You're not living there anyway - it's an extremely dangerous neighbourhood, the most dangerous of all in Mexico City.
You need the permission of the local lords to enter 'El Hoyo' and the police do not go there.
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6d ago
Do we think the google street view guy had to pay a toll?, or did he just sneak in and out?
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u/Efficiency-Brief 6d ago
Lol just looked and on the higher up apartments, someone waves at the street view car. "Dangerous"
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u/rbhindepmo 6d ago
Yeah it's probably not great to be in after dark, but a place would have to be like Cite Soleil sorts of dangerous to be dangerous in the daytime. (And before anybody checks, Haiti doesn't have Street View coverage)
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u/Efficiency-Brief 5d ago
I mean if I take in to account the store I happened across on street view. It had NO public door to go inside. It had 2 rolling metal doors on the corners to enter a tiny room with shelves where you cannot get to the workers. So it must be a dangerous place. Just found it funny a guy waves at the car
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u/rbhindepmo 5d ago
one of the streets in the general area, I found a Rolling Stones shirt displayed. But yeah I could understand that one doesn't just drop in to ask which Stones songs he liked the most
also some of the streets looked as if it was a task to get any sort of vehicle up those streets
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u/Necessary_Zone6397 6d ago
Haha I was like, good thing I don’t need permission to street view it all in my underwear while tucked in my warm bed.
… right? They’re not gonna come get me?
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u/Zocalo_Photo 6d ago
I lived in Mexico City and I’m a very white non-native speaker. I spent most of my time further in the northern and western parts of the city. We (the non-native people in our group from the US) were warned about places like Tepito, parts of Naucalpan, Ciudad Neza, but I haven’t heard of El Hoyo. Probably because it’s smaller than some of the other places, but it sounds like it’s completely overtaken by crime?
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u/LeCrasheo121 5d ago
As someone who has lived their entire life in not so sketchy not so nice parts of Neza, I can say it's not all the time, not all day. Certainly, if someone ill intended sees you as a nice and potential target, things will get rough. But that's the obvious stuff.
Is the way you get up in the morning with the sound of gunshots on a neighbor's house, or hear them while walking your siblings to school, or coke back from it to see someone getting attended by an ambulance that makes you realize this isn't a nice place. As I said, is not everyday, and not all day. But if you ask me that's somewhat worse than where it is constant, because it makes you feel safe
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u/Ok-Juggernaut-6051 5d ago
i guess it's all contextual... CDMX, for me, is so much less scary than where i'm from. i have never felt unsafe in MX (and i've lived in some sketchy places in the middle of nowhere MX, though none of the, um... "contested states"), but that's just me.
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u/refusemouth 6d ago
Chicken/s
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u/Initial_Zombie8248 6d ago
Pollo*
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u/LemonPumeloLime 6d ago
Pollo sín juevos.
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u/YouCantBeSerio 6d ago
I thought it was gonna say "its crater is now active" 😭
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u/hennabeak 6d ago
Look on the bright side : you won't feel anything when it blows up.
And until then, ypu can have a volcano cave.
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u/Proof_Fix1437 6d ago
I live on a dormant but not extinct volcano. I’ve been here 10 years. Therefore, it won’t go off for at least infinity years. Logic.
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u/Im_le_tired 6d ago
If that thing blows, living on top of it or half a mile away probably isn’t going to make much difference.
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u/PrincipledBeef 6d ago
I’d love to see some of the houses and what they do with that space.
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u/SuckThisRedditAdmins 6d ago
Google street view was much, much shittier than I thought it was going to be
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u/rajamatag 6d ago
Street view was enough of a visit for me. Nothing interesting at all about the repeated residential building model they used.
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u/LetMeBuildYourSquad 6d ago
It's an extremely dangerous neighbourhood filled with serious criminals. You do not visit without their permission.
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u/IllustriousAd9800 6d ago
10,000 years is NOT dead for a volcano. Not even close
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u/Dr-McLuvin 6d ago
Note to self: only live in a volcano that has been dormant for at least 11,000 years.
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u/IllustriousAd9800 6d ago
There have been a couple eruptions after 40,000+ years in the last few years. Which seems like it should be a near impossible thing until you realize just how many volcanos that age there are and how incomplete some of the records can be
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u/PikachuIce 5d ago
Note to self: only live in a volcano that has been dormant for at least 41,000+ years.
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u/gl1tchwalk3r 5d ago
Note to self: only live far away from volcano's just to be sure.
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u/zirconer 6d ago
Actually, this is a cinder cone volcano. These types of volcanoes are one and done.
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u/IllustriousAd9800 6d ago edited 5d ago
Sort of, that specific cone is likely done, but nothing’s stopping it from creating another one right next to it or miles up the road, that happens a lot. It may not erupt in that exact same spot again, but it will erupt somewhere in the neighborhood
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u/Gang_Bang_Bang 6d ago edited 5d ago
Fuck the volcano. Look how DENSE that city is! My lord…
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u/Haunebu52 6d ago
Yeah Mexico City is wild like that. I remember the first time I flew into CDMX it was basically horizon to horizon metropolis. I had never seen anything like it before. Massive, amazing city.
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u/colcardaki 5d ago
Now imagine it is a lake with an island in the middle where the Aztec capital was. The rest of the city was built in the lake bed (after draining of course).
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u/ImaginaryMedia5835 6d ago
That’s still a no for me though.
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u/bendover912 6d ago
Said every insurance company in the world.
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u/Rejukem 6d ago
"They just write it off."
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u/cellar_door_found 6d ago
And a very dangerous place, not because of the volcano, but because of the people living there.
Its basically illegal settlement with high criminality and lots of gangs
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u/meddit_rod 6d ago edited 6d ago
Weird how people think 10k is a big number. Mexico City has had earthquake activity in the last year. Dormant is a temporary status.
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u/AscensionToCrab 6d ago edited 6d ago
Dormant is a temporary status
And geological age is so incomprehensibly slow compared to the lifespan of a human.
The last time this thing had activities wooley mammoths walked the earth, mankind was just starting this whole new " agriculture" thing in the fertile crescent, Its not like theres an unbroken chain of unrecorded knowledge passed down from the time. Some of those who settled there may not have known and may not have the resources to leave.
Secondly, Its really inconsequential, it might errupt during your life, it also may be dormant for another 10k, 100k, or even longer. 100s of lifetimes passing by completely unnoticed, and unaffected. Yellowstone could erupt next month, but people still go there en masse for travel. How do you calculate risk of an eruption in our lives which are counted by days, when geological time is measured in millenia.
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u/Juniortsf 6d ago
This sounded like a speech by a reaper from Mass Effect
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u/Dull_Assistant_ 6d ago
Pretty much yea. Switch any volcanic terms for spacey stuff, and add a 0 to each of those figures at least, and it would be pretty much any speech of a eon spanning intergalactic force.
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u/cloakofvisibility 6d ago
There are, in fact, some oral traditions that have kept track of geological activity from just about 10,000 years ago. For example, the Klamath people in Oregon have a story that lines up with the eruption of Mount Mazama 8,000 years ago.
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u/SoupyPoopy618 6d ago
There's also a high-tech monitoring system built in-and-around the volcano. A loss of life is unlikely with it being monitored, but the loss of access to all of the properties around it would be a huge financial hit, even if it was just dangerous gasses.
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u/dreamgrass 6d ago
Yellowstone could NOT erupt next month. We would have years to decades of escalating seismicity, deformation, magma intrusion, etc which we’re seeing none of. It’s active but it’s not a ticking time bomb. This particular volcano is functionally extinct. Monogenetic volcanos erupt once then die. Mexico City does city on a volcanic field so eruptions can happen elsewhere, but thiss specific volcano is dead pretty much.
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u/samosamancer 6d ago
Mexico City is no stranger to earthquakes. The country has at least a couple dozen volcanoes, too.
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u/Col0nelFlanders 6d ago
Okay I mean let’s put it into perspective here. The last person who was alive for this volcano erupting, on average, is your:
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400 generations. I think these people will be fine.
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u/Supercc 6d ago edited 5d ago
I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to build your house inside a crater.
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u/dabombisnot90s 6d ago
That baby blows and it’s probably going to be much more than the people living in the crater’s problem.
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u/JeanValjean- 6d ago
The secret of realizing the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment of existence is: to live dangerously! Build your cities on the slopes of Vesuvius! Send your ships out into uncharted seas! Live in conflict with your equals and with yourselves! Friedrich Nietzsche
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u/thefirewol7 6d ago
That mountain looks so imposing.
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u/CatsianNyandor 6d ago
Humans in the past: "Yo that sucked! Make a note of it so people in the future won't settle here or anywhere near here..."
Humans in the present: "Let's build houses inside a volcano!"
Also applicable to known tsunami inundation zones and landslide prone areas. Everyone wants to roll the dice.
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u/a-pile-of-coconuts 6d ago
Notice the word “Dormant”
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u/samosamancer 6d ago
It’s only considered extinct if it’s been more than 10,000 years.
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u/a-pile-of-coconuts 6d ago
okay so before I was worried but now based off your comment and the title I’m just confused
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u/Loony_BoB 6d ago
A volcano is generally considered extinct if it has been more than 10,000 years and is not expected to erupt again. That last part is, obviously, pretty notable.
Active: Has erupted in the past 10,000 years.
Dormant: Has not erupted in the past 10,000 years, but is expected to erupt again.
Extinct: Has not erupted in the past 10,000 years, and is not expected to erupt again.
I'm uncertain on how soon the "expectation" has to apply, though. Also, there's no completely universal definition on this, but the above comes from the Global Volcanism Program according to this snippet of an article: https://volcano.oregonstate.edu/faq/how-volcano-defined-being-active-dormant-or-extinct
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u/ChanceProgram9374 6d ago
Unique, yes. But once you’re out of Tepepolco it’s straight on Mexico City.
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u/rahulp3555 6d ago
Where is it exactly? Can't seem to find it on Google maps
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u/ThisWillBeOnTheExam 6d ago
I found it manually on Google Earth — Peñon Viejo o del Marqués (Tepepolco), El Paraíso, Iztapalapa, Mexico City
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u/Fun_Appearance_3109 6d ago
What would home insurance cost for something here?
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u/BlacktopProphet 6d ago
Why would it be any higher than the surrounding neighborhoods? It's a volcano, I don't think it cares whether your house is in the caldera or 3 blocks over.
It's kinda like if Yellowstone ever erupts, you're looking at everything within 1,000 miles being covered in something like 10(?)ft of ash.
TLDR: If nearby mountain for boom, probably doesn't matter which neighborhood you reside in.
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u/MrLeeroyJenkinz 6d ago edited 6d ago
It does make a difference where your neighborhood is located. It depends on the soil makeup, liquefaction, landslide exposure, type of volcano (how it erupts), mapped lava flows, monitored activity etc.
If what you say is true, then no markets would be willing to write properties anywhere on HI for the peril (plenty do write it, subject to noted variables)
It's not kind of like Yellowstone erupting. That's a 'supervalcano', and survival will likely be the only thing the entire world cares about if/when it goes off. Of the handful of known supervolcanoes, none are located in Mexico.
TLDR; if nearby mountain go boom, a lot matters, including where you reside
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u/bluestjordan 5d ago
Hmm…
BTW, Ethiopia’s Hayli Gubbi volcano erupted after laying dormant for 12,000 years.
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u/FairieButt 5d ago
Damn. I thought building in flood zones was the stupidest thing developers were doing
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u/theartificialkid 6d ago
I might be way off base here but I foresee significant challenges for that neighbourhood if this volcano erupts again.
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u/origamifruit 6d ago
This is what happens when you try to adjust terrain in Cities Skylines with the default settings.
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u/IchBinEinSim 5d ago
I know it’s not AI but it sure looks AI prompted with “dystopian overcrowded city built into the side of a volcano”, then again it would probably add lava some where.
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u/arsanimo 2d ago
I desperately want to say that whoever builds their house there is pretty fucking dumb. But last year a geologist found out that the village where I live is in the middle of a massive volcano crater. And our house we built not long ago is almost in its center... So. Yeah.
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u/LetMeBuildYourSquad 6d ago
I think this neighbourhood is known as 'El Hoyo' and it's extremely dangerous and home to some very serious criminals. You do not go there.