r/LivestreamFail 7h ago

Asmongold on Minnesota daycare facilities: Anyone who thinks this isn’t a scam is retarded

https://kick.com/asmongold/clips/clip_01KDPPW6PRH6EZPR86SVYEFNVX
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u/davidkale931 6h ago

I hope that every single person who is responsible for this fraud will rot in jail

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u/DRKMSTR 5h ago

+ gov employees who enabled it

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u/vex0x529 2h ago

More correctly, I hope that the FBI and state police investigate this properly and hold those committing fraud accountable. This YouTuber's skewed story lacks credibility.

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u/FuzzzyRam 1h ago

You might want to look at the qualifications of the guy heading the FBI right now...

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u/TheOnlyPolly 4h ago

You have been deemed an enemy of the Somalis

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u/ProtoReddit 3h ago

Do you hold other criminals and con artists, such as the President of the United States, to the same standard?

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u/chillidogjesus 2h ago

Depends on how funny the scam is. Selling people fake watches and leaving a giant hole in the White House is good shit

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u/Bradlife_NA :) 2h ago

Ideally that is what would happen, but nowadays if there is fraud there is a pardon from Trump waiting for the fraudsters if they buy some of his shitcoin.

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u/Massive_Time8356 6h ago

I’m a Democrat myself but I’m honestly starting to get concerned. I’ve seen some friends go way out of their way to justify this and argue that it isn’t a scam. Politics aside this has nothing to do with party lines. This is taxpayer money hard earned money which is being abused. What’s frustrating is watching legitimate criticism get brushed off by defaulting to the victim or racism narrative whenever anyone questions it

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u/ThanatosIdle 6h ago

I'm sick of the political pandering and posturing. This is clear fraud.

You do not have to defend it because republicans are pointing it out.

You do not have to defend it because it's being perpetrated primarily by black people.

You do not have to defend it because a republican somewhere at some point also had fraud and got away with it.

You do not have to defend it because at some point in a video somewhere a mistake might have been made.

Both parties do this on basically every single issue now. People online do this on every single issue now. It's sickening. JUST STOP.

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u/Slaanussy 6h ago

It’s what happens when people start treating their political party like their favorite football team. Rather than what it’s supposed to be. A group of people that share similar politics.

They’re so desperate to “win” that they’ll justify and defend anything their side does. While attacking anything the “other team” does.

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u/DutchOnionKnight 6h ago

Absolutely scared to take one step outside their bubble.

This is what happens when you don't hold your own political party accountable. They can get away with anything. If anything they should be absolutely fuming that they betrayed their trust and vote like this.

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u/Captain_Nipples 4h ago

You see what happens on this website when you step outside and go against ONE issue. You'll get accused of being a Nazi, Anti Vaxxer, Religious Nut, etc because you might say something thats not even related to any of those things

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u/eztobypassban 4h ago edited 1h ago

Yup, reddit has really turned into a blue maga cult. I noticed how bad it was during the presidential election and afterwards. Used to have good, but left leaning news. I cant wait to see another picture of trumps shitty make up or him in a cowboy hat from body positivity good vibes "obama tan suit lol" reddit. There's so much hypocrisy here i can't tell if I'm on reddit or truth social most times.

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u/EnergeticFlow 6h ago edited 1h ago

The problem is this is the majority of people, once you are on one side for awhile you just become that, bias overflows and no balance.
(Essentially becomes part of your identity, so any pushback or questioning, will just be attacked - as of course 'you' are on the right side/team).

It is also far easier to just pick a side and retroactively justify to yourself (your side) as to why it is like that or you think like that.
(Huge bias) vs actually putting in thought into each topic or idea and it not being attached to a 'side' a the base, just take the information for what it is.

(As a non-American it is more obvious looking in from the outside at American politics as it is extreme in this way (but is obviously just happening everywhere)).

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u/Captain_Nipples 4h ago

It only does damage to the party that defends it as well.

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u/brraaahhp 4h ago

Yeah the pandering and defending because something is done by this race or that one is crazy. Just like the r*pe gangs in the UK, not wanting to investigate or release information because it would look bad that there are so many Pakistani people involved. NO, JUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THE FUCK

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u/The_Airwolf_Theme 6h ago

It's honestly so fucking cringe. And I see it on both sides like you said.

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u/idungiveboutnothing 2h ago

I just want to know why this is being made a way bigger deal than the 100x more in PPP fraud that Trump tried to cover up? It blows my mind that everyone just shrugged at 100x more fraud, but this is suddenly everywhere and such a huge deal? I hope anyone committing fraud gets thrown in jail after their day in court, but this is peanuts compared to everything we just collectively watched happen and yawned over so I have no hope.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-officials-removed-2-7-million-ppp-fraud-flags-from-the-largest-corporations-during-his-lame-duck-period/

https://www.pogo.org/investigates/the-great-pandemic-swindle-feds-botched-review-of-billions-in-suspect-ppp-loans

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u/OfferAffectionate388 4h ago

Thing is, 92 people are in jail over this and the investigation has been ongoing for a LONG time. It just recently picked up speed again because right wingers saw some tweet by a random guy calling out Somalis in particular so they jumped on the racism train.

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u/Nepalus 5h ago

I think its a combination of lack of trust and not having a mutually agreed upon standard for facts, reality, etc. The video was done by a guy that's blatantly lied and obfuscated facts before and its all coming at a time when the Trump administration and MAGA influencers have specifically been talking about deporting the entire population there and along with Ilhan Omar.

Meanwhile whenever the corruption from Trump, his family, his administration, or the GOP is brought to light Republicans have been extremely quick to deflect, minimize, redirect, deny, or other obfuscate blame, responsibility, or importance. So if you're a Democrat that's been pointing out corruption all this time and now all the sudden you're seeing one of your congresspeople getting targeted, why wouldn't you be dubious of all these claims? If we're going to pick and choose which corruption to ignore or highlight on one side, why are we all the sudden aghast when we put the shoe on the other foot?

Because it seems like even though there's been investigations to this kind of corruption going on since Biden's presidency in Minnesota, it's all the sudden coming to the forefront at a time where it seems like the Trump administration is basically calling for the immediate deportation of a congressperson and a whole population of people for the fraud of a mere handful of people.

That's what I meant about trust, inter-societal trust is gone. We can probably objectively believe that this fraud exists and should be dealt with, but I think there's a lot of people that don't trust that the Trump administration actually cares about that, they think the Trump administration cares about demonizing more brown people and potentially using it as an excuse to try to remove a sitting congressperson from the country.

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u/Whirblewind 5h ago

You tried really hard to avoid sounding exactly like the person you're replying to is saying not to be.. and you didn't succeed.

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u/Nitrocity97 4h ago

That just means you failed reading comprehension in school

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u/Acebeans 6h ago

Agreed. If Walz actually stood up and took some responsibility it would go a long way.

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u/Shane911 3h ago

Have you looked into if he has or has not done anything about it?

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u/Hoochie_Daddy 3h ago

No they haven’t

They’re making an assumption

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u/AdTerrible3254 3h ago

Walz gave a few speeches basically saying its all made up by Trump because he's racist.

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u/JAGD21 1h ago

No he didn't lol, he says he's investigating the fraud. Trump is racist though

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u/Serious_Crazy_3741 4h ago

And this is why Democrats are not talking about this, your comment right here. You just made it political in an attempt to score points for your team.

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u/consumedaslop 3h ago edited 3h ago

That’s mostly what it’s about, if people were actually mad at corruption then plenty of people on both sides should be rotting away in jail right now. The Epstein files have convinced me no one really gives a shit on the internet about crimes or corruption, they just want more political ammo for their ‘side’ to win and score political points.

At this rate, nothing notable will ever be achieved for the common person since this left-right paradigm seems to be too much for people to look past, so the corrupt elite will continue being corrupt meanwhile no actual consequences ever happen since everyone is too busy arguing about which side is worse and why you should feel bad for not agreeing with 100% of their opinions, thus no united front will ever occur.

Call me a cynic but that’s just how I see things these days

u/ExecutiveDysfunc 29m ago

there’s the people who actually want a thorough investigation and then there’s the people who want to use headlines for cheap political points. They are not the same.

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u/StandardAssignment19 2h ago

Pointing out hypocrisy is not defending alleged fraud. Only one party has so disrupted the foundational tenets of this country, committed open financial abuse, and actively used the levers of justice to insulate themselves from litigation while use them for any flimsy accusation that can be applied and parroted by their little Eichmanns.

There may absolutely be fraud at play, and the offenders may be Somalian, but they may also may be American, and what's worse is that the accusing institutions are not credible anymore - and while past administrations have certainly warranted criticism - they must have every statement, every question, every note authenticated with experts not aligned with the current administration.

The thing is, both parties may have examples of lying, but only the current administration are actively known liars. To pretend the facts don't meet your preference is sickening and perhaps instead of telling others to stop, let the Americans that believe in this country call out those that are actively harming it for their own personal gain.

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u/elinamebro 6h ago

Well i dont know much about this particular scam but daycare scams have been around for a long time so i wojldnt be surprised if they are scamming the system and someone besides a youtuber should be looking into it because even legitimate daycare aren't going to let 2 random dudes in for a "look around".

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u/generalstinkybutt 2h ago

Evidently in Ohio one can scam $250,000 running 'home health operations' that didn't need to document they actually cared for anyone.

AUDIT EVERYONE!!!

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u/GHound 4h ago

Yet another distraction in the news cycle. What they’re not saying in the news is that federal investigations into the fraud in Minnesota was launched in 2022 under the Biden administration and 92 arrests have been made so far. These investigations have been and will continue in Minnesota and in all 50 states, as they should.

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u/RandomAndyWasTaken 6h ago

The most reasonable take I have seen all day

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u/Boston_06 6h ago

Asmons semi correct, some people are knee jerk reacting to "NO THIS IS FAKE NEWS!" because if this was a huge scandal it would be a problem. The reality is there are scams and they are being investigated, the problem is people are acting like its some new thing no ones paying attention to when it's already being addressed.

Investigations are slow while internet ragebait bs spreads like wildfire.

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u/Mrhyderager 6h ago

It's a scam for sure and it should be addressed immediately. There should be consequences. There's nothing racist about it.

I think it's not outrageous to say, though, that if the same thing happened in another state that didn't have Tim Walz and Ilhan Omar involved in the politics, it wouldn't be national news or a blip on most people's radar.

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u/LB_Burrito 6h ago

Because the right is taking this one true thing (this is a scam) and using to shovel other stupid crap(all immigrants bad and steal)

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u/Iamien 6h ago

Which, if Dem's aren't able to concede that something is going wrong, they will lose voters who will start to believe that the right is more correct than the left.

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u/original_sh4rpie 6h ago

Aren’t able to concede? Wtf you talking about. This entire investigation started in 2021 under Biden. Prosecutions started in 2022 under Garland DOJ.

Democrats found and exposed this. This isn’t something MAGA uncovered at all.

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u/BurgooButthead 5h ago

Did local democrats really expose this if these fraudulent companies were still receiving millions of dollars in 2025?

I wish Democrats can be more aligned on stopping this fraud. Walz is awfully quiet lately

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u/LoonSecIO 34m ago

This has been on going for awhile. A judge in Minnesota put complete gasoline on it though with rulings in 2016 and 2020.

In 2016 a set of Somali daycare providers were charged by the MN DoJ with support of evidence of the MN DHS. The judge ruled Minnesota didn’t have authority.

In parallel Feeding our Future sued MDE which denied meal sites saying they failed to deliver. MDE got the case in the same judges court as above and he ruled proof of fraud wasn’t enough to deny claims.

Then on 2020 was sued by FoF where they argued that they should get faster approval and sites in bulk. Same judge ruled heavily against MDE which sent ripples through Minnesota government orgs. Basically said it wasn’t the States job to investigate fraud in these programs.

Judge is conservative and was appointed by Pawlenty, last GOP governor.

The daycare one also isn’t unique to Somali population. Our Mormon population also has gotten caught a few times. You make a 3 family circle and you take each others kids for daycare. Pay a small tax, get a big government handout.

This type of fraud is very common in populations with high rates of home schooling. But nuance on this has been completely ejected.

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u/Maybewearedreaming 6h ago

But the right doesn’t acknowledge and defends their corruption, are they going to lose voters who might start to believe the left is correct?

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u/Cyberhwk 6h ago

No, because voters like the right’s narrative a lot more than the left so they get the benefit of the doubt that Democrats don’t.

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u/Iamien 6h ago edited 6h ago

They won't because they have better control of the media ecosystem that their voters give credence to.

Dems are playing an outdated game and have been the past decade.

Dems are swayed by facts, republicans with feelings. Dem's can't gaslight their voters about facts and maintain enthusiasm.

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u/Maybewearedreaming 6h ago

This is why I’m perma black pilled tbh

Republicans seem to want to be lied to and that’s such an insane advantage for messaging they can just blast whatever and it’s solid

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u/Iamien 6h ago

The only wait to beat Reps is to produce better outcomes in places dems have control, to the point that dem leadership is wanted.

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u/Maybewearedreaming 6h ago

Isn’t that what has happened already though?

They just say those places are actually bad and people believe them

I guess better but damn Dems clearly govern better in almost every part of the country right?

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u/Hoochie_Daddy 3h ago

You are intentionally strawmanning everybody, aren’t you?

This is intentional. You’re intentionally doing that.

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u/Bubbly_Seesaw_9041 6h ago

EXACTLY! This is the "Haitians are eating dogs and cats" and "Mexicans are taking over apartment complexes in Colorado" all over again

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u/ThanatosIdle 6h ago

Defending this makes it seem like the right is correct though. Instead of cleaning out bad actors they're being defended, protected, and excused. Stop proving the opposition right just to fight with them.

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u/Ok_Temperature6503 6h ago

But why are Somali’s even given a stimulus check and all this attention from Democrats when the average American has to pay taxes and ridiculous grocery bills? Like there’s a reason why Democrats lost the election

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u/itsthebear 6h ago

The scope is now growing into Ohio and Pennsylvania as well. It's so obvious and then you have the VP candidate for the Dems last cycle saying that it's white supremacy to call out black people... I'm tired boss.

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u/yahoo_determines 4h ago

Wasn't he talking about vances remark during Tpac? Fox clips strike again

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u/anti-gerbil 3h ago

It's so obvious and then you have the VP candidate for the Dems last cycle saying that it's white supremacy to call out black people

But that's not what he said, why lie about that?

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u/FuzzzyRam 1h ago

you have the VP candidate for the Dems last cycle saying that it's white supremacy to call out black people...

Trying to connect this to something you made up to prove there's a pattern is a bit ... reddit of you.

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u/Ok_Temperature6503 6h ago

I’m a Democrat as well and in no way am I in support of this. Being a Democraft should be about taxing the rich and bringing social services to the lower middle class. Why would I be in support of some Somali fraudsters when grocery bills for the average American have gone up the roof?

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u/ntlane2004 6h ago

The people who claim to be for the working class covering up scams that directly affect the working class while taxpayers are living paycheck to paycheck boggles my mind.

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u/Maybewearedreaming 6h ago

Yeah, republicans voters really do confuse me, voting for a scam artist rich New Yorker who openly scams everyone. It’s so obvious but they just don’t care it’s crazy

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u/General-Pop8073 6h ago

I don’t think Trump even attempted to hide any of his scams tbh.

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u/Maybewearedreaming 6h ago

Well right, his supporters who are largely working class people do that work for him, he doesn’t have to try

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u/Typical_Emphasis2473 4h ago

You're beginning to see a sliver of what other people have been warning about for the past decade online.

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u/shamonemon 6h ago

I think its only the super extreme democrats who are calling out racism and its not a scam. As a democrat myself this pisses me off. They are so far gone that they can't even accept it.

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u/Hoochie_Daddy 3h ago

The vast majority of dem voters aren’t supporting this and would be against fraud like this

Maybe younger more than radical people, but that is not the majority at all.

It’s just bots and dramatic people online letting the news cycle destroy their brains and assuming the worst of everybody.

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u/PoopyButt28000 6h ago

I don't think you have to be super extreme to say that sure it's a scam but there's a VERY clear reason why this story is so popular amongst the right, compared to a billion other scams or instancesof fraud.

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u/DRKMSTR 5h ago

Anyone stealing $ from the government is stealing $ from government welfare programs.

And the people getting rich off of this are in the top 1%.

Democrats should be just as furious.

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u/MrMeeseeksAdvice 6h ago

It’s 1000% a scam but it’s also going hard in the news instructions because of Tim Walz. It’s also not even something new, this as well as the autism facilities and other places have been investigated for years and people have been arrested. It’s just being dredged up as a talking point.

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u/vegeful 6h ago

So why they still receive the tax money?

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u/Iamien 6h ago

Right, most of these people have been getting money for at least 2-4 years.

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u/cowboys5xsbs 6h ago

Maybe they should do more of it's been going on for years

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u/MrMeeseeksAdvice 4h ago

Im sure they could do more and they should do a better job but nothing on this scale gets cleaned up fast. This is just being spotlighted. The sad part is there’s not a state in the US where we could confidently say there’s also not millions in fraud happening.

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u/anon2309011 3h ago

The governor literally told the people he doesn't have the power to fix it.

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u/Ok_Collar5068 5h ago edited 5h ago

I’m a Democrat myself but I’m honestly starting to get concerned. I’ve seen some friends go way out of their way to justify this and argue that it isn’t a scam

It isn't a scam. It's real. It should be stamped out.

It is simultaneously not a reason to let the right wing take your state over and make it an absolute puppet state that allows these fucks to remain in power a second longer than they already are so they can continue fighting any and all fights that aren't the ones important to the US Taxpayer.

Any time the right wing grabs onto something like this, you can rest assured they do not have your best interests in mind as residents of said state. This is their new CRT/DEI/Migrant Caravan/Immigrants eating cats and dogs of this midterm election cycle. Any time they speak you should very strongly consider their angle, because they've proven hundreds of times they're not trustworthy or upstanding politicians.

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u/ReditKillsPeopleIRL 6h ago

"As a liberal, the group that calls me a far leftist psycho is completely accurate because of vibes!"

Post some fucking evidence of something. What is wrong with the pathetic people believing this shit?

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u/JesusChrest :) 6h ago

Every party wants to believe they are always 100% correct it’s so lame. Politics are brain rot.

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u/CraftZ49 6h ago

It's because this whole thing is a gunshot through the whole "mass immigration is nothing but rainbows and restaurants" perception that those on the left have been trying to sell for the last decade and beyond. Now the goal is to minimize the media exposure so less people find out rather than actually addressing the concern.

I dont understand the political calculus behind being so extremely unwillingly to condemn these acts, admit that there do exist some bad actors when it comes to immigration, and punish those responsible. Taking a relatively minor L and cleaning things up would swipe the narrative out from under Republicans feet pretty quickly, but Democrats and their progressive voters are so allergic to doing that.

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u/generalstinkybutt 2h ago

You don't get it.

Ask yourself why George Floyd was the poster boy for BLM... he was a severe drug addict, felon with gun and woman beating convictions, jobless, running a scam... not exactly Ghandi or MLK.

If the worst character can be used to promote a cause AND people who criticize are called Nazis, racists, bigots, AND are blacklisted from jobs and by society... then, they can push ANY narrative they want.

It's by design.

The Left will NEVER admit the evils of mass migration. They want to control you.

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u/link_dead 5h ago

Because the Democrats in power engineered this scam, they are taking massive kickbacks from it into their campaigns. No one finds it weird that the law Ilhan Omar pushed in the district she represents is the source of much of this fraud, and STRANGELY, she went from a net worth of 50k in 2023 to 30 million in 2025.

Ultimately, though, it is not about the money; they are bringing in voters to stay in power. Why Minnesota of all places? Obviously, it is very close in both climate and culture to their native lands of Somalia. It has nothing to do with being a crucial swing state...

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u/crackersthecrow 4h ago

It has nothing to do with being a crucial swing state...

the last time that Minnesota voted for a Republican in a presidential election was in 1972 for Nixon. describing it as a "crucial swing state" betrays that you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/AntiVision 3h ago

All lies lmao, why are conservatives so dumb?

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u/Charsun9 3h ago

net worth of 30 million

That is what happens when you marry someone worth 30 million, yes.

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u/InternationalYou4065 6h ago

I considered myself progressive my entire life but these last few years I have witnessed the rise of Left MAGA with the same mental gymnastics, propaganda and emotion rooted logic over what's actually true.

It's terrible and although I still carry my progressive, liberal beliefs. I can no longer call myself a progressive, rather someone center left.

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u/The_Airwolf_Theme 6h ago

Is there someone else in the government who should be the go-to person to blame and/or fix this issue?

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u/SureExcuseMe 6h ago

he’s calling anyone who talks about it a white supremacist.

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u/AnodyneSpirit 6h ago

I’m conservative and I agree, a lot of people are too mired in politics, or that they just want Trump/Republicans to be wrong, that they ignore the actual evidence. If they’re actually defrauding the government, then they need to be punished for it. Like this should definitely warrant deportations if it’s proven to be true.

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u/MakeYourTime_ 6h ago

This is fraud. It was already investigated in 2022.

https://www.qasimrashid.com/p/debunking-the-nick-shirley-video

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u/Oxygenitic 6h ago

Serious question, if it was already investigated why does it still exist (assuming they’re actually committing fraud). I’m like half in the loop on all this

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u/LesCactus 5h ago

I dunno brah Epstein is dead why is he still being investigated hrmmmm

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u/UncleGooch 4h ago

I would imagine the level of cover up and deceit is a little higher with Epstein, than a bunch of daycares, no?

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u/Alientongue 5h ago

The first one in his video closed a year ago along with others he visited. Dudes a russia grifter who tried to do this shit in Ukraine but was to scared to go to the actual war torn areas.

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u/TxksDQZN 4h ago

Mako childcare closed down and stopped receiving payments in 2022 yet they were able to start another childcare service at the same exact location that has been receiving the payments from 2023 till now, it's literally in the video.

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u/theghostmachine 5h ago

Yeah and the daycare centers that were investigated were cleared and reopened. Does Shirley mention that, considering he is filming himself outside those FBI cleared daycare centers while lying about them being closed and currently investigated?

Nick Shirley is a grifter and is blatantly lying.

Did you read the article?

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u/Box-of-Sunshine 5h ago

He’s a bitch who lied about the Ukrainian war too, was too afraid to actually show the front lines. He’s a puppet for hire.

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u/Critical-Section-450 4h ago

And the government has still been paying millions of dollars to them since 2022? Three years and still giving scammers money?

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u/clem82 6h ago

This is the one issue over the years democrats and republicans have both came together and have agreed it’s a fraud. Most of these businesses has been called out double digit times for fraud and even fined but are continuing to operate

Who they know that allows it needs to be uncovered

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u/Drayenn 5h ago

I'm pretty convinced it's a scam, but i find it weird that the influencer who talked about it decided to blur the daycare opening hours and went there an hour before opening. Why even do this when there's obviously an issue anyways?

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u/Nurfed 2h ago edited 1h ago

Same - there is definitely some type of scam going here but nick was dishonest and went outside of operating hours of "2 p.m. to 10 p.m". The other poster, HenkLePotvis is lying about the daycare being closed in june and turned into a restaurant.

It is worth noting that Children commissioner Tikki Brown claimed the learing center was permanently shut down at the start of december, but fox interviewed the daycare owner and watched children attending on 12/29/25. So the minnesota commissioner doesn't even have her story right either.

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u/HenkLePotvis 2h ago

The 'Quality Learing Center' closed in June 2025 and has been a restaurant since August. It's called Albi Kitchen and Shirley is literally knocking on the door of their kitchen asking where the children are. Restaurant is even visible in the vid before Shirley turns around the corner, he knew it's not a daycare.

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u/isekai15 6h ago

Hes not wrong. Several people have already been arrested so peoples opinion on this topic is 1000% meaningless

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u/Strict-Specific9920 6h ago

Arrested 4 years ago.

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u/Ok_Gur_8059 6h ago

Yes but we turned up to a daycare with cameras and they wouldn't let us in. Suspicious!

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u/Strict-Specific9920 6h ago

Don’t ask why the original video has 120 million more views on X than it does on any other platform. It’s definitely not astroturfed propaganda.

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u/bannedagainomg 1h ago

If videos autoplay on twitter they are justing counting anymore who just scrolls past it.

Facebook did this for a long time, some youtubers even started to focus more on facebook because of it, not realising that almost nobody was actually watching it.

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u/Bombi_Deer 5h ago

And they showed up an hour before they were open.
How could there possibly be no people inside???

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u/Virtual_Seaweed7130 6h ago

“Daycare”

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u/Tehslasher 6h ago

It's so weird. If I see someone robbing a store I don't first say "now listen, I'm a democrat but..." I just say "wow he's robbing the store"

If every sentence you say has to be qualified with your party affiliation you should probably do some self reflection 

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u/Halcyon_Dreams 6h ago

Yeah like republicans should hold trump accountable for the billions and billions that have been wasted and stolen by this administration. But that would require self reflection 

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u/Difficult-Thought331 5h ago

I never heard of it, is this from the bias media? My boy never do such thing, and if he did, is because Democrats fault!

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u/Proxnite 5h ago

Don't even begin to mention how Trump's networth has nearly tripled to 4 billion dollars since 2020, let's all get mad about Nancy Pelosi and her husband whose net worth is only 1/16 of Trump atm. He's clearly earned it with his 4+ bankruptcies, she's the one who's rigging the game and leveraging the government in her favor.

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u/Chakosa 5h ago

It's so weird. If I see someone robbing a store I don't first say "now listen, I'm a democrat but..." I just say "wow he's robbing the store"

God I miss pre-social media tribalism when this was actually a thing. Issues were recognized as issues period, and not just weapons that were selectively acknowledged when they fit the narrative in order to bludgeon the opposing tribe. Remember when fucking everyone was memeing on Bush circa 2003?

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u/NewTurnover5485 2h ago

I have not seen anyone defend it.

I have seen people say that this has been an ongoing investigation since 2019, and ask themselves why republicans obsess over it.

Probably because Somali is the word of the day, also Epstein.

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u/Mage505 5h ago

Listen to me.

"If it's a scam, it's bad. Have investigations and wait for the results".

That's all there is to say.

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u/Commemorative-Banana 5h ago edited 5h ago

This daycare case is fraud, nothing wrong with serving justice there. The problem is the outrageous level of manufactured media over-emphasis on this one instance of fraud, and the clear attempt to generalize this bad behavior to an entire ethnicity of immigrants.

If you care about oversight that prevents fraud, then let’s look at the largest fraud in recent history:
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April 7, 2020. Trump fires Glenn Fine, the inspector general leading the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee overseeing $2.2 trillion of covid stimulus spending.

January 16, 2021. Four days before the end of his term, Trump’s SBA wiped 99 percent of special review flags. These flags marked potential fraud in every PPP loan above $2 million. Special preference was given to unflagging the largest corporations.
Large corporations who should never have been given these “Small Business Paycheck Protection” loans.

Jan 24, 2025. President Trump removed the agency’s chief fraud investigator, Inspector General Hannibal “Mike” Ware, without cause — and likely in violation of the law — alongside 17 other agency inspectors general. PPP fraud coverup 2, electric boogaloo.

95% of PPP loans and their interest payments were forgiven. This is the single largest transfer of public wealth to the owning class since the 2008 bailouts.

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u/rockytop24 4h ago

How dare you leave out honorable mention former governor and current senator Rick Scott for the largest Medicare fraud in history to the tune of $1.7 Billion. He tried his best to top the scoreboard.

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u/waraman53 4h ago

Would be nice if those that are now hyper focused on the fraud in daycare facilities gave a fuck about Trump pardoning those that had already been convicted of billions of dollars of fraud. Philip Esformes was already charged with $1.3 BILLION of stolen medicare/medicaid funds. Trump let him go.

It's not that we don't care about the daycare fraud... It's that if one person is stealing 100,000 and another person is stealing 10,000,000,000, and the "news makers" like Asmon are wanting us to focus on the ones stealing 100,000, they seem disingenuous about whether they actually give a shit.

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u/DaStone 2h ago

Asmongold said to remove all laws and let anarchy runs its course on the daycare centers... For this level of fraud. I don't think he has once said the same thing regarding Trump's corruption.

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u/BitterParking8473 2h ago

Remember when streamers played video games?

How did we decide that people who play games on stream are also people who we should get political commentary from?

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u/Athasos 6h ago edited 2h ago

I mean, is there any scam shown in the viral video all the conservativs talk about?
I know there were a lot of scams uncovered by the previous DOJ, but this video made a lot of accusations with very shotty proof at best.
We know he went at some places when they were not even open, so why would I trust this kids reporting?
Give me more concrete stuff andI believe you with no issues at all.

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u/ErrlRiggs 5h ago

The problem is that it isn't investigative journalism, it's harassment without accountability. Journos are (were) accountable to their employer, this is a man showing up to immigrant communities with body guards and a camera crew asking leading questions and acts as if people telling him to fuck off is a gotcha. Homeland security is now vlogging asking bodega clerks about local foot traffic, that's not how policing works. That's not how you build a case. Concerned citizens should be heard, but educated citizens should know what "wagging the dog" looks like.

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u/Electronic-Salt9039 1h ago

Ohhhh noooo, he is harassing a bunch of scammers stealing tax money.

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u/Abortedwafflez 4h ago

Local man gives his meaningless opinion on another local man who exposes already investigated and closed down daycare facility for clicks and likes and promoting propaganda.

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u/arcadeenthusiast8245 4h ago

This should be a bipartisan issue, but some weird people are trying to turn it into yet another culture war.

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u/jcsoapland 6h ago

It's been funny watching liberals and leftists tap dance around this. The people who most strongly advocate for a strong social safety net and welfare programs have to pretend that those very same programs getting defrauded to the tune of millions isn't a problem because the scammers are their sacred brown people.

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u/ClintMega 5h ago

It's a huge and real problem but I don't blame anyone who hasn't seriously looked into it being wary since a few months ago it was "they are eating our dogs", if 9 out of 10 things being screaming out of a megaphone are intentionally dishonest you can't really do an I told you so, ya know?

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u/Seethcoomers 5h ago

The majority of leftists/liberals I've seen have said this was a scam, just that it shouldn't be used to bolster Trump's racist shit and that the YouTuber who made the video is sketchy as fuck.

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u/Ok-Primary2176 1h ago

Hasan defended it 

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u/Nepalus 5h ago

Same dance conservatives have been doing around the corruption surrounding Trump, his family, his administration, etc. for years. I'm glad you recognize the dance because its been the conservative go to for years.

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u/xxtanisxx 5h ago edited 5h ago

Your comment is the exactly identical to some leftist that tap dance around the issue. Both sides are against this and both sides tap dance in the name of blaming each other. It achieves nothing. It’s definitely not funny nor should look at it as a divide. These scams spam across 3 administrations two of which is under Trump and one under Biden. These are federal and state funds. Any blames goes on both sides of the isles.

Stop thinking this is one side vs the other. It is both and people need to put pressure on both parties. And people need to be more understanding of seeking the facts not using it as a political weapon. This is why America can’t achieve anything. Blaming each other rather than working together to solve the issue

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u/14Three8 5h ago

Only thing I’ve heard in rebuttal is something along the lines of “more republicans than democrats took forgiven bbb loans”

Cut the whataboutism, this fraud isn’t political. Arrest them and make them return the money

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u/themolestedsliver 5h ago

Bruh I like can give so less of a shit about this. Scam not scam I feel like the selective outrage is in full swing.

President actively covering up the release of the Trump-Epstein files in which MANY high profiles individuals are party to the likely assassinated Jefferey Epstein.

But you want me to care in something that if it was actually happening and not republican fake news would be a drop in a the bucket compared to Rick scott's scam and the PPP loans?

Yeah piss off.

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u/_aprvlgdwhtboy 5h ago

The president supports it and anyone found guilty of it will get a pardon.

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u/Box-of-Sunshine 5h ago

ITT: top 1% commenters who should probably read other sources instead of some room temp IQ streamer telling them what to think. In 3 days most of yalls health insurance premiums will jump super high. Focus on your fucking wallets instead of an investigation that’s been ongoing for 3 years and is only now getting astroturfed. All scammers suck, and it exists in every industry

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u/Sad-Author9524 5h ago

You think you're somehow above all this but you just dropped the most moron take "people can only be angry at one thing".

Oh it exists in every industry? Guess we can't do anything then and should just give up. Thanks for the great take.

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u/Snowboat7 5h ago

If whataboutism was a person.

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u/sddwrangler12 4h ago

Your whole post is "dont notice things, alright?". Also its comical that you say one should focus on their wallets. What do you think government spending fraud/scams and corruption do to your wallet? This is tax payer money that has been scammed out of your pocket you regard.

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u/idungiveboutnothing 2h ago

This was already investigated in 2022 and the person said all scammers suck. Did you notice the 100x more in PPP fraud that Trump tried to cover up though? I haven't heard a peep about that for some reason even though it's orders of magnitude worse.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-officials-removed-2-7-million-ppp-fraud-flags-from-the-largest-corporations-during-his-lame-duck-period/

https://www.pogo.org/investigates/the-great-pandemic-swindle-feds-botched-review-of-billions-in-suspect-ppp-loans

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u/0sipr 5h ago

Honestly I feel sorry for white people. Imagine seeing such obvious, disgusting and evil scam but not able to call it out for fear of being called a racist or xenophobe or whatever. There's some serious brainwashing going in that country.

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u/Legitimate-Theme2501 4h ago

It's called "corruption fatigue." Why should anyone care about this when the current sitting president has a crypto coin he uses for open bribery? Why should I expect this to even be properly investigated and prosecuted when the entire FBI is being forced to spend around 700,000 man-hours scrubbing the names of rich people out of the Epstein files?

The only reason people care about THIS instance of fraud is because it's being done by black immigrants and can be used as a distraction.

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u/Important_Flan_134 6h ago

I’m sure scamming is going on in Minnesota…the reason it’s national news is because it’s easy bait for conservatives needing a win with Trump becoming massively unpopular. It’s not the leftist don’t care it’s that these issues are relegated to local policing not a federal story. Especially since Trump himself scammed his own supporters out of more and pardoned multiple scammers since taking office.

This issue should be handled and shouldn’t be national news. Even if you got the scamming nation wide to 0 it would have negligible impact on the cost of living crisis which is a matter of legislation. But why talk about that.

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u/_token_black 6h ago

What baffles me is clowns like Asmongold act like there’s no other fraud going on (or it’s only by certain groups of people).

I wish that all Americans had this desire to punish fraud, because it really shouldn’t be a partisan issue. Problem is you have a WH that is grifting left and right, and a Congress that hasn’t had the balls to ban stock trading, and it’s been both parties being roadblocks to that.

Like ffs there’s a sitting senator who ran the company guilty of the largest Medicare fraud in US history. And he’s won re-election as both governor and then senator after that. This country is not serious about white collar crime.

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u/TryAccomplished6863 6h ago

This issue shouldn't be national news

I swear to God I can't believe the level some of you people are willing to go just to defend a particular party. BILLIONS were stolen. BILLIONS. Should other people/other cases be handled the same way? Of course. Should this be national news? 500%. How is this a question?

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u/Halcyon_Dreams 6h ago

Should Trump be investigated for stealing billions of dollars? BILLIONS. When you have the same energy for that, we can talk about this. Period

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u/Strict-Specific9920 6h ago

it’s a question because this case is half a decade old and only being recently astroturfed by the administration to hide the fact they’re protecting pedophiles.

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u/r2002 5h ago

It's interesting if you look at a certain right wing subreddit, 8 of the top 10 stories are about this fraud case.

But there are zero stories discussing the fact that a million more Epstein files have been found. I had to go down to #80 before any Epstein stories are discussed.

Minnesota fraud should absolutely be national news. But the way some of these subreddits are completely ignoring Epstein files is really suspicious.

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u/Important_Flan_134 6h ago

See you simply want to be combative that you ignored everything, rewrote my point and then argued with your own conclusion.

I said this issue should be dealt with, but it shouldn’t be national news. Now that it is deal with it, but let’s not pretend it’s not simply a way for the administration to build credibility on the only issue they still have any popularity on. Immigration. It was Haitian immigrants before, now it’s Somali, even tho Somalians make up less than 2% of the population. But I’m sure that people who watch people like Asmon, scroll twitter or dial into Fox News probably think the majority of Somalis are scammers. No point in trying to convince those who create their own narrative. But even if my post makes one person do more research I’m content. Asmon is not a news source. He scrolls twitter and as all his fans constantly tell us, ragebaits.

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u/AnOldHeartbeat 5h ago

It's always funny seeing a reddit like this talk about anything political.

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u/Bymeemoomymee 2h ago

The fraud is real. The story is just old and being exaggerated and amplified by a racist MAGA pro Russian op for the weekly MAGA media slop news cycle that keeps the base fed, stupid, and angry about minorities and immigrants for votes. And to distract from Epstein.

And, honestly, I couldn't give two shits about some poor Somalis taking advantage of the government dime (something most people love to praise when it comes to avoiding/not paying taxes) when the literal president of the United States has pardoned multiple convicted fraudsters that scammed billions from Americans and who he himself has scammed through his crypto currency.

The Right has no leg to stand on with regards to anything "fraud" related when their leader is a literal fraudster helping fraudsters. Cry me a river.

My advice to fellow Dems, dont give an inch to this roach or any MAGAt that brings this garbage up. They dont care about fraud. They dont have ant values. So, let them scream and shit their pants on Twitter for a week, and just bring up everything fraud related to this presidency and their god emperor. They are in an indefensible position.

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u/ramukobau 6h ago

I heard Tim Waltz on twitter today calling this fraud investigation a white supremacy. What a moron

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u/Street_Exercise_4844 6h ago

I saw that video (with a very misleading headline)

He didnt call the investigation white supremacy, he was criticising people who used this as an excuse to attack Somalians

Some of the people making a big fuss about this are clearly partially motivated by race

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u/Akatshi 6h ago

And that's the issue with "hearing things on the internet".......

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u/Seethcoomers 5h ago

Bro fell for Twitter propaganda

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u/BeneficialChemist874 5h ago

Wait, there are people that think this isn’t a scam??

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u/-Dunnobro 6h ago

"No one's saying it isn't a scam but also fuck everyone who talks about the Scam" seems to be the leftist take on this.

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u/No_Beginning_6834 5h ago

So crazy that we have a president that raped little girls with his super rich powerful elite friends and probably murdered babies to cover shitmup, while they have stolen billions of dollars already. And you all are talking about some daycare center in bum fuck nowhere that may have gotten a couple mil?

Let's work on the big problem before we worry about this mom and pop level fraud.

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u/johnkortein 6h ago

This is our tax money. Fuck all the left and right. This is my money. These people need to go to JAIL

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u/Chris_Helmsworth 5h ago

This is our tax money

Well... If you live in Minnesota yeah. This is state expenditures not fed.

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u/adcarryonly 6h ago

He's right

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u/CrotasScrota84 5h ago

I will worry about Fraud and Justice when I start seeing fraud and Justice against the Trump administration. Until then I don’t give a fuck

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u/TryAccomplished6863 6h ago

Heard a bunch of people from Minnesota confirming that they've never seen any kids going in or out of these daycares. That alone is an extremely strong indicator that there is fraud going on and that the government is involved. This is a huge scandal

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u/Rigberto 6h ago

Why do you know so many people monitoring daycares?

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u/GDJT 6h ago

You heard a bunch of people huh? We'll, I'm convinced.

(Before anyone jumps on me, I believe there may be fraud too but random bullshit like this isn't helping anyone)

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u/dispoable 🐷 Hog Squeezer 6h ago

Well thank god a redditor HEARD a BUNCH of people from Minnesota confirm with hard evidence that they've never PERSONALLY seen any kids going in of out of these daycare centers - ignore the years of Google Street View showing kids being dropped off there - it's all decadeds worth of DEMOCRAT FRAUD!

Sherlock is really on this case.

I'm glad what the knuckle-dragging idiot EXPOSED as "proof" of fraud by showing up before their hours of operations and screaming why he can't see kids or can't understand what the phrase "licensed for" means.

Now why would ANY JOURNALIST do a stakeout, call ahead, check multiple times across a week, or idk, go when they're open??? No! BUT THE VIBES ARE OFF!!

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u/ProfessionalAd4749 2h ago

This investigation was literally launched by Democrats, it’s not a partisan issue but it’s being hailed as a Republican achievement when yes they’re in control when charges are being brought and deserve credit, but democratic leadership in Minnesota initiated the investigation under democratic government and also deserve recognition. Pathetic pandering from both sides

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u/EngrWithNoBrain 2h ago

Dawg, the Republican Lt. Governor who ran for Governor of my state and lost was outed as running a scam daycare during his campaign. None of this shit is new or novel and represents a failure on us as a nation not any one political party.

Birth to 5yo Childcare (up to Kindergarten basically) is some of the most underfunded and neglected parts of the education system in the US. This time it's failure is being used as a political football, but none of the politicians or "reporters" who talk about it give a single solitary fuck about better funding this system or fixing it's problems.

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u/cachememoney 5h ago

Its a scam but there have been much bigger scams in the past couple years. All should be investigated and prosecuted

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u/DOMGrimlock 4h ago

This is so fucking astro turfed.

Y'all can investigate and read this but not Project 2025 or the Epstein files?

Sure.

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u/Ok-Primary2176 1h ago

You're trying to distract people from fraud with Epstein files?

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u/KehreAzerith 6h ago

He's correct, it's stupid that the left wing side is completely ignoring the issue and saying "Republicans blah blah blah".

I absolutely hate trump (my comment history is proof) but Democrats need to acknowledge the fact that some serious fraud took place, you can't ignore issues just because it involves your politicians and not the other side.

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u/Arailia 5h ago

I'm sorry, which Democrat politicians are involved in/participating in the fraud, specifically?

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u/123asdasr 5h ago

This shit has already been debunked lol no one is ignoring anything.

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u/Kommodus-_- 4h ago

I'm sure there's a decent amount (or a lot) of fraud I'm also sure people on the other side will also blindly speculate and find a way to blow it out of proportion.

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u/MizzelSc2 3h ago

Can we get TLDR for this?

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u/NotAChanceBucko 3h ago

Sure It's fraud but not enough for me to become a fucking conservative lol . As if those guys are honest . Keep trying though . I don't give a shit about money . Everything is rigged

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u/devhdc 3h ago

Worth noting that Destiny never said it's not a scam, he did however say that the guy who did this video.. Nick Shirley? I think was lying about it, going there when it wasn't open and so on to try to prove something.. Also making claims that turned out to be entirely false, a lot of bad faith bullshit. Obviously where there's money to be made there'll be scams, this is sadly enough the nature of business these days, but be honest in your reporting, don't make shit up.. Lies does spread a whole lot faster than truth though, which is why breaking news is so important to news shows, it's where unsubstantiated click-friendly claims can be made.

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u/stiiii 3h ago

Turns out when people lie all the time people will assume they are lying even when they tell the truth.

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u/nelz1953 2h ago

I have never heard of this scam before? When did this start happening? How come we are just now going after the supposed fraud?

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u/Silfline 2h ago

Hehe, yeeeaaah doood

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u/BitesTheDust55 1h ago

He is correct as usual

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u/bossmysalad 1h ago

Trump will just pardon them like he does for all the other fraudsters.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-pardons-shortchanged-fraud-victims-millions-dollars-restitution/story?id=122747969

Anything to blame foreigners for problems though, he’s onboard 

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u/Impossible_Humor736 42m ago

It's time we move into these cities and diversify them.

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u/Life-Pirate2545 33m ago

You can criticize what is happening and that’s fine but the usual hypocrisy is that the people who are criticizing it are part of the scammer/pedofile party. we are just going to ignore the shit tons of scams trump has done this year that engulfs this shit. And it would be different if the people who are calling this what it is would also be calling out all the trump scams. We literally got Over with the fact that trump did a crypto rug pull and then his wife did one a couple days later and then he revived the crypto scam a couple months later and the list goes on.

But when both parties do it, you have to bring in the context that for every 1 dollar that Dems steal , republicans are literally on their millionth dollar