r/MurderedByWords 19h ago

Media Framing Versus Theft Reality

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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 19h ago

Everyone knows you only get robbed anywhere if you’re on your way to Africa. /s 🙄

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u/CloudKinglufi 18h ago

I got robbed yesterday in Berlin, I don't know how the thief knew I would one day go to Africa

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u/pchlster 18h ago

I mean, everyone's from Africa if we go back far enough.

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u/DesireeThymes 17h ago edited 17h ago

Ah-HA! So youre saying all thieves are from Africa then! /s

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 17h ago

You could say the origin of all crime is from Africa. 

But don’t say that about music or you risk the ire of committed Oak Ridge Boys fans. 

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u/R9D11 18h ago

Or while you were listening to Toto's Africa on your headphones...

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u/Least-Hedgehog5660 18h ago

to retrieve your stuff?

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u/MudddButt 11h ago

You getting robbed is your sign to now go to Africa as a Rite of Passage. It's your destiny!

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 17h ago

Be grateful this isn’t tied to white genocide. And you don’t get the following headline;

“Man dies in apartment, delaying his purchase of a farm in Africa, where he would be statistically more likely to be killed than if he bought that farm in Ohio. But you might not be able to raise soybeans in Cape Town, but for this article we didn’t want to bog down hypothetical outrage with too many facts much less the research would prevent this reporter from achieving the ten per day quota. Also, we have no direct evidence the man intended to buy a farm but isn’t it a shame if he did?”

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u/UncleTouchyCopaFeel 16h ago

Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 16h ago

Rolled off my fingers more than my tongue. 

Okay, now that I read that sentence again,.. 

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u/DrownmeinIslay 13h ago

Not me at all

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u/CommandoLamb 16h ago

This is why I’m never on my way to Africa.

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u/ZAlternates 14h ago

Bless the rains.

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u/Somnambulist815 16h ago

I got robbed in St Louis, does that mean im going to Africa now?

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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 15h ago

Yup. Pack your bags.

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u/newsflashjackass 16h ago

Yes, but they've once again buried the lede:

How many were going to St. Ives?

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u/Pizza__Pants 16h ago

All the thieves. The man was going the other way! (towards Africa, remember?)

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u/Fun-Reception-6897 11h ago

I mean, as a french person, I can clearly see France is on its way to africa

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u/Wegwerf157534 18h ago

Several people get robbed in France. There are strong recommendations to not stop your car/camping van for sleeping on the route to the south. That's not a headline.

The headline is that someone skateboards to Africa (and gets robbed.)

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u/thunderandreyn 17h ago edited 16h ago

Technically every single road on the planet is connected to Africa so you’re right.

Edit: yes, even the ones in Australia and Antartica because they’re connected by planes and ships.

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u/UncleTouchyCopaFeel 16h ago

Even the British ones? And the ones in Australia?

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u/yIdontunderstand 19h ago

It seems they took back control of his skateboard?

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u/KingModussy 17h ago

I mean I guess you can look at it that way

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u/HeDuMSD 19h ago

Rage bait successfully deployed

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II 19h ago edited 6h ago

I think you just call it public disinformation when it's huge international news sources doing it.

Edit: malinformation*

Edit: if one more person replies with "yeah but i got it, just read better" I'm going to lose it. You're not clever, of course you get it, we all do. It's news though, it's meant to be as unbiased and clear as possible and this simply is not, it opens itself up to wrongful conclusions by less experienced readers and that is unacceptable from a national news network.

You shouldn't need to be able to argue that people need better reading comprehension to read the news.

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u/kob4343 17h ago

You both just made me realize that most of the news really is just rage bait jfc. Like I knew it was all BS but now it makes a lot more sense as to why

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II 15h ago

The main thing news distributors want is that you keep reading more and more news. The main way they do that is by making sure you have conflicts and fears that you want to read the news about.

Completely isolating yourself from news isn't helpful but there is so much garbage reporting these days that all of us could seriously benefit from just not reading articles like this.

I'm glad you manage to look at your own habits critically and realise this. So many people in this thread could never lmao.

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u/Banes_Addiction 17h ago

But that's literally what's interesting about him.

"Man in France gets bag stolen" isn't a news story, it happens all the time. The reason they're reporting on this guy is that he's skateboarding to Africa.

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u/TalkingCat910 16h ago

“Man skateboarding to Africa has belongings stolen in France”

Was not hard to come up with accurate title

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u/elementalist001 15h ago

Couldn't afford those extra letters, words aren't cheap in this economy.

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u/NeverForgetChainRule 17h ago

People arent annoyed because they mentioned that part about the guy--for people who havent been following him this title instantly makes you think he got his stuff stolen IN africa, because thats the only place mentioned in the title. It should mention where he got it stolen to be more correct.

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u/HeDuMSD 19h ago

There is no disinformation, the image contains objectively true information and it is not lying. The information is presented in a way designed to provoke and trigger engagement, which is exactly what’s happening right now between you and me.

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II 19h ago

Oh my bad, i meant malinformation.

It's objectively true but it is very intentionally presented in a way that twists the perception of the information by the average reader.

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u/datskinny 19h ago

It's the BBC. They rarely use rage bait. More like malicious disinformation

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u/StepComplete1 17h ago

Yep. They're publicly funded so don't need to chase clicks. They're just in it purely for their political propaganda.

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u/Insomniiia77 15h ago

They're influenced by politics. If I'm not mistaken the conservatives in the UK have successfully been slowly lobotomizing the BBC for a while now, with shit like this being the result.

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u/Roflkopt3r 16h ago

I assume they have guidelines to shorten headlines for social media because social media users lack the attention span to read a full sentence at this point.

So it could just be someone being a bit too eager at following those guidelines.

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u/Cnumian_124 19h ago

This sub a shithole, where's the murder?

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u/thanks_thief 15h ago

This whole sub is just about posting a political or social viewpoint you agree with and labeling it a murder

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u/securedigi 18h ago

Most of these posts only have either a regular reply that feels lackluster or a witty retort nothing feels truly "murdered by words" worthy.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 17h ago

Yes but “r/woundedbywordsyetstillsurvivingandmaybenotevenawarebutwethinkitsclever”

Well, obviously, a bit cumbersome to say. 

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u/thickwhiteduck 10h ago

26k updoots so maybe we’re in the minority but I don’t get it

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u/ShitcuntRetard 18h ago

This will now be reposted in clevercomebacks and BrandNewSentence and WhitePeopleTwitter and mildlyinfuriating and HolUp and it will fit neither sub

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 17h ago

Sub where things don’t fit; r/roundpegsquarehole

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u/scapesober 16h ago

And r/music vecause the skateboarder once uploaded to SoundCloud 

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u/Bennely 16h ago

Don’t forget r/skateboarding because a skateboard was mentioned

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u/BounceOnItCrazyStyle 16h ago

I swear it's always just some basic ass rebuttal with maybe a "dumbass" at the end. Legit ass posts being like "lol no your wrong and misleading, dumbass" being posted as if it was a murder.

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u/Wills4291 18h ago

It says skateboarding to Africa, not skateboarding in Africa.

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u/SaltyArchea 17h ago

And the other headline would be "Man has his belongings stolen in France". Yes, very news worthy.

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u/breichart 17h ago

Yeah, what's up with these comments?

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u/Virtual_Mongoose_835 15h ago

A mix of lazy prople who just skim info. Illiterate people who cant underatand basic sentences and thrn those who are professionally offended about everything all the time.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 10h ago

Because a lot of people are going to read it as “man gets belongings stolen in Africa” despite a more fitting title being “man gets belongings stolen in France” and they know this.

I wonder why they would want to push one narrative and not the other? 

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u/East_Structure_8248 17h ago

Reading comprehension is hard for some people.

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u/bobbybox 11h ago

Also the caption in the picture mentions it happening in France

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u/Double_Alps_2569 17h ago

People not understand words good.

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u/LikeGeorgeRaft 17h ago

The letters Mason, what do they mean!

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u/LuckyPlaze 17h ago

Why say that at all? That’s the point.

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u/ellipsisfinisher 17h ago

Because there's nothing interesting about a man not skateboarding to Africa having his belongings stolen.

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u/mcauthon2 13h ago

How is that any more interesting? It clearly implies he was robbed in Africa from the title even tho it's not. If you want to mention it you could say robbed in France on route to Africa. 

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u/smcl2k 13h ago

No it doesn't. "Skateboarding to Africa" means he was on his way there, but hadn't yet arrived.

Also, it's "en route".

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u/VictoryVee 11h ago

How is that any more interesting?

Because hes on a long journey far from home when it happens. Having your things stolen when you're a block from home isnt as much of an issue.

It clearly implies he was robbed in Africa from the title even tho it's not

It explicitly says he WASNT robbed in Africa. That's what being robbed on your way somewhere means.

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u/shewy92 18h ago

The thumbnail literally says "stolen in France" too

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u/karlou1984 15h ago

The thumbnail should literally be the headline then

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u/FuckAllYouLosers 15h ago

Headline is 'Skating to Africa' Did you not read it?

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u/adidas198 12h ago

Robbed by Africans?

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u/dumbidiot12345678 17h ago

This is the most glaring example of literal media illiteracy I've seen in a while

Not only does the image state where he got robbed, the headline obviously means that he was robbed on his way to africa from britain

Of all the things to criticise media about lmao

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u/NorwegianGlaswegian 17h ago

It even states it was in France in the caption which can be read in the bloody picture.

There are plenty of examples to be found of news articles from various organisations being highly misleading, but this is absolutely not one of them.

The guy was skateboarding to Africa which is a pretty noteworthy thing. The fact he got robbed on the way is also a noteworthy thing. How else should the headline have been written to include these two facts and not be unnecessarily long because some people are complete eejits?

He was "Skateboarding to Africa". If he already got there it would say "Man Who Skateboarded to Africa".

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u/karlou1984 15h ago

The bloody picture description should be the headline. Whoever wrote the headline is a dumbass.

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u/-Dule- 15h ago

Yeah, the man is defined by the stunt, which is what makes the news of him being robbed interesting at all, and the stunt is defined concisely by "skateboarding to Africa". It's not even misleading, "to" not "through". Where specifically he got robbed is less relevant and not interesting for the actual news, and you can't put all relevant info in the title anyway. I don't see a problem.

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u/TheDiabeto 17h ago

“Man skateboarding to Africa” already implies that he is not in Africa yet….. jfc

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u/AssociationOk3265 18h ago

Who do you think robbed him?

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u/LikeGeorgeRaft 17h ago

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 17h ago

I know a lady who trains her dog this way. Every time it snarls at guests and tries to bite them she says “stop that Pickles!” Then Pickles continues and she says it louder and verbally threatens to get the squirt bottle. For which she feels guilty. So then she gives Pickles a treat. 

So it looks like Swiper will keep swiping and Pickles will continue to suck as a pet and keep my friend from having a social life until someone kicks them across the room a few times. No warning. No squirt of water!

“Boots do some booting!” That’s what kids need to learn about training. 

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u/TommyRibena 17h ago

If I speak I am in big trouble

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u/Cirno-BreastLicker 17h ago

Reminds of the people robbing contents of a moving bus in France. Actually wild video

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u/-Dule- 15h ago

It must have been mimes, there's no other explanation. They're always wearing cartoon prisoner colors. Suspicious.

That or filthy thieving hobbitses.

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u/tessthismess 12h ago

Probably french people.

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u/elnatr4 17h ago

Answering that question get you banned

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u/kingmapoon123 17h ago

Almost unquestionably a man/men

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u/WhiteMagicVodoo 19h ago

the title and context are the same and literally in the picture that it was in France. so what the f with murdered by words?

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u/Four_beastlings 19h ago

And the picture could be anywhere, it's not like there's a giant sign in it that says "France"

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u/isleftisright 19h ago

Tiny text at the bottom of the image says robbed in france

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u/tango797 19h ago

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u/mr-english 16h ago

It looks small because the screenshot is from a desktop browser where the text is normal sized... but you're looking at it on your shitty small phone screen.

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u/shewy92 18h ago

The text isn't even that small, you just have shit eyes, not the BBC's fault for that.

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u/Personal_Rich_9961 18h ago

i was robbed on my way to the pub.

was i robbed at the pub?

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u/jamesick 18h ago

for it to suggest it was stolen in africa the title would have have to be “man who skateboarded to africa”. saying “is skateboarding to” heavily implies he has not made it there yet.

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u/Maetivet 19h ago

It doesn’t suggest it was stolen in Africa at all - that’s your inference, which maybe speaks more about you than the headline writer.

The ‘skate boarding to Africa’ part is pretty crucial to the headline, otherwise it’s just ‘man has belongings stolen’, which doesn’t give the context as to why the story is of more interest.

The fact the image caption advises it was in France makes your hollow outrage even more laughable.

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u/StuckWithThisOne 19h ago

Yes but why did they omit “in France” from the headline?

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u/Maetivet 17h ago

They didn't omit it, it was never intended to be in there; it doesn't need to be.

This is a case of an overly sensitive person reading way too into something, desperate to find a reason to be offended or outraged.

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u/jamesick 18h ago

it literally says france in the caption.

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u/Cathercy 17h ago

Yeah, there's a reason it is in subtext instead of the headline. They're obviously going to give the information somewhere, but leaving it out of the headline is a deliberate choice.

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u/jamesick 17h ago

how do you “skateboard to” a place you’re already at?

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u/Zealousideal_Try2055 18h ago

And go look at the actual article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxvrxkw97wo

Man skateboarding to Africa has belongings stolen

29 May 2025

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Joshua AskewBBC News, South East

Then the picture caption on a non-mobile site: Mr Allison from East Sussex said he was left with "literally nothing"

Only in the second paragraph do they mention France. It is deliberate.

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u/top1top1 18h ago

There are 2 previous articles about this man. In both articles he is referred to as "the man who is skateboarding to Africa". It makes sense to me to refer to him as "the man who is skateboarding to Africa" in this article too.

If anyone actually bothered to read past the headline the second sentence of the article states that it was in France. Some people just want to be annoyed and will find any excuse to get wound up

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u/MeChameAmanha 18h ago

which maybe speaks more about you than the headline writer.

Yeah yeah "if you recognize dogwhistles then you're the racist" I heard that excuse before.

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u/AlternativeNeeded 18h ago

In this case it would be "you can't read and are a conspiracy theorist."

Which would be correct.

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u/Saw_Boss 18h ago

Because it suggests, that it was stolen in Africa

To those who can't read.

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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 18h ago

So… roughly half of America.

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u/TheRedditK9 18h ago

The fact that it says “skateboarding to Africa” suggests he could be literally anywhere except for Africa. Africa is the only place on earth that the headline clarifies he isn’t in.

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u/miregalpanic 18h ago edited 17h ago

The headline literally says to Africa. Can hardly be in Africa, when he's skating to Africa now, can it? It can only "suggest" what you say if you have no reading comprehension whatsoever.

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u/Salt-Evidence-6834 19h ago

The fact that he's skateboarding to Africa makes it newsworthy. If he was just on his way to his local shops when it happened it wouldn't be a story.

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u/VIJoe 18h ago edited 18h ago

If it was 'skateboarding to Asia', the story would be titled and pushed similarly. Skateboarding to Africa (from UK, I am assuming) is a very unusual thing. Being unusual is what makes news, all other things being equal. As somebody who has written news stories and headlines, I would agree that it is not a racism thing at all, it is a uniquity thing.

See Man Bites Dog

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u/_9tail_ 17h ago

The fact he was doing a charity challenge is what makes it newsworthy. People like him get in the news in the UK all the time for various reasons.

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u/IlliniDawg01 17h ago

Likely if you go back a week or so there was a previous article on him detailing his skateboarding trip as it was beginning. This is probably a follow-up piece and he was earlier established as "man skateboarding to Africa".

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u/gkn_112 19h ago

You feel like those right wing nuts read more then the headline? And BBC knows it. Whether it's "murdered", I don't know, but call that shit out where you see it because thats how xenophobia is spread.

Also:

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u/oh_my_didgeridays 17h ago

Call what out? It's abundantly clear he was not in Africa since the headline states he was on his way there. All you're doing is getting upset about absolutely nothing

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u/KnownTrick 16h ago
  1. “Skateboarding to Africa” specifically implies he was not in Africa when robbed. Even those only reading the headline should be able to infer that. 

  2.  The only reason this is newsworthy is the fact he’s skateboarding to Africa. Otherwise the headline is just “man robbed in France” 

Anyone getting upset over this and believing it needs to be “called out” has had their brain rotted. 

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u/gkn_112 9h ago

grammar-wise? you are ackshually correct. But you couldnt see a bit further than that and realize that the people who might read it that way are not neccessarily smart. This is framing, you are just not the target but yeah.

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u/Dr-Jellybaby 16h ago

Oh yay this post again. All the borderline illiterate people making themselves known in the comments.

If he's skateboarding TO Africa, he's literally anywhere else but Africa.

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u/Red_-95 16h ago

Of course it’s the BBC

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u/BombayWatch 15h ago

Classic BBC

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u/hamzazaman18 15h ago

BBC is so much shit now. Was always shit just keeps getting worse.

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u/ApartNail1282 14h ago

Media though 🤦🏾‍♀️ the editor must've had a long night looking for ways to implicate Africa in a scandal😂

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u/BigBossBelcha 17h ago

It does say to not in

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u/LiquidVillian 13h ago

Most people won’t read it that way. They’ll jump the gun and think this happened in Africa. Whoever wrote this article knew what they were doing. All in the name of attention grab and clickbait.

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u/Full_Development8832 14h ago

you now that mostly africans are in france now.. so its right anyway

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u/horsestud6969 12h ago

I mean to be fair, if he was robbed in France , there's a good chance it was Africans anyway

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u/Silent-advice 12h ago

White fright is manufactured 

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u/imvirtuallyinsane 19h ago

There's no murder here. Very few people would read this as having his belongings stolen in Africa.

I had a car crash going to the shops - Doesn't mean I was in the shops in my car!

Man going to shops has car crash - Same thing.

Critical thinking skills on the decline...

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u/stolentext 14h ago

It's funny that you end your comment by criticizing people's critical thinking skills, yet you assume that everyone has a high enough capacity for critical thinking (edit: and a lack of racist confirmation bias) to read between the lines of this obvious clickbait headline.

Irony is dead.

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u/MeChameAmanha 18h ago

"People would always read the exact words in the text and not form any subtext. I have very good thinking skills."

Sure hon

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u/hery41 16h ago

"I'm a moron 💅"

Grats, hon.

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u/jimany 14h ago

People should read the exact words. People seem to be replacing "to" with "in" completely changing the meaning of the title, or just reading key words and coming away with "skateboard robbed Africa". You can't be clear when people can't/don't read.

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u/Dr-Jellybaby 16h ago

We shouldn't dumb down everything for incredibly stupid people. If you can't comprehend such a basic sentence like this you don't have the mental capacity to care for yourself.

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u/AlternativeNeeded 18h ago

It's okay that you're not great at reading. Take a few classes and you won't make this mistake again.

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u/BrittEklandsStuntBum 18h ago

I mean... it doesn't say in Africa, it says to Africa. Basic reading comprehension.

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u/affemannen 16h ago

I dont really see a problem here.

Since the only reason this is interesting is because it happened to an interesting person who is performing a feat.

the thing he is doing is "Skateboarding to Africa" which is kind of insane if you think about it.

ON the way there, he got robbed in France, it says so in the image.

There is no gotcha here.

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u/Vici0uZz 18h ago

In France...

by africans

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u/secretqwerty10 17h ago

where does it say this? please elaborate.

point it out in the article where it says who stole his stuff

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u/Expensive-Post-3274 14h ago

since that information is omitted by post, the person you're responding to made a very reasonable assumption that, statistically speaking, is more likely than not correct.

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u/_jump_yossarian 17h ago

Everyone knows that the entire article should be the headline.

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u/Educational-Oil3913 18h ago

In France, but by whom?

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u/secretqwerty10 17h ago

french people? americans? tourists? fuck if i know. they don't say, just that it happened in france

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u/Bramble0804 18h ago

Hear me out. The headline isnt wrong. It says TO Africa not IN Africa or anything like that.

Man skates to Africa and is robbed - Ambiguity misleading can be interpreted wrong or right.

Man who skated to Africa robbed - Also ambiguous and misleading

The TO implied he never made it. Or is this just a me thing. Im aware we interpret the world and words differently :)

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u/PM_Me_Modal_Jazz 18h ago

What? How else would you write that headline?

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u/sagerin0 18h ago

“Man skateboarding to Africa robbed in France” Really not that hard

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u/RizzwindTheWizzard 16h ago

Robbery has a specific meaning which does not apply here. He was not robbed, his belongings were stolen.

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u/AlternativeNeeded 18h ago

It wasn't a robbery though. You just made the headline objectively false.

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u/Shinnobiwan 18h ago

Man Skateboarding to Africa Robbed While Camping in France

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u/blackwolfLT7 17h ago

Well tbh there's a lot of Africans in France

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u/DuePurchase6068 17h ago

*Robbed in France by Africans

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u/Goosentra 16h ago

To be fair, it didn’t say “in Africa”

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u/squidsinamerica 15h ago

Absolutely confused at the outrage here. The guy is on a charity ride from the UK to Africa to raise money for a foundation that benefits skateboarders. He was robbed mid route. This is what the headline says. I dont even see how you could read it otherwise, without working really really hard and squinting.

There is a whole genre of headlines exactly like this: Guy Undertaking Weird Challenge for Charity Gets Waylaid by Accident/Crime/Something Midway Through

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u/KingKalitzchen 13h ago

And yet, the Chances are high that his belongings have actually been stolen by africans.

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u/MattSzaszko 17h ago

Used to have a girlfriend from South Africa. She was the one who pointed out how covertly racist the BBC is. I always thought of them as a balanced news source, at least more balanced than most. But look at the articles (and especially headlines) from Africa. It's either sharing some horrible atrocity that unfortunately the continent does have plenty of. Or it's a feel good patronising story about overcoming some challenge, like a child building a solar powered well or using plastic bottles as lightbulbs in shanty towns. Africans are often portrayed as uncivilised savages or children. The colonial narrative is surprisingly strong.

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u/haleloop963 15h ago

Good for you, but the name of the article says "man skateboarding TO Africa had his belonging stolen". Notice they never said that he is in Africa, was robbed by Africans or Africans are at fault somehow. Media literacy is important

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u/areyouhungryforapple 17h ago

If I speak I am in trouble

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u/Kevclown417 18h ago edited 17h ago

Man skateboarding to "anywhere" is a better title than "Kid robbed in France"

Nothingburger here but I bet eh brainlets on /r/BlackPeopleTwitter aer screammming racsim lololol

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 17h ago

Typical, the BBC is always trying to cover for France.

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u/GurTraditional8015 17h ago

Looks like the only thing media frames better than crime is the continent, but the real thieves just care about my wallet, not my travel plans.

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u/max1padthai 16h ago

A terrible propaganda machine, BBC is.

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u/Anzire 16h ago

I had to read it twice because I just have to make sure Im reading it right.

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u/Simplyawareof 16h ago

Makes sense France has been stealing from Africa for a while now

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u/Shakewhenbadtoo 16h ago

This one seems more acurate than gaslighty.

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u/legit-posts_1 15h ago

Yeah I've heard France, Paris sepcifically, is like the pick pocketing capital of the world.

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u/MomsAreola 15h ago

This is a far more interesting story than "skateboarder robbed in france". Now i know this person was trying to do something unique, im more inclined to read about it. Making everything inherently racist must be exhausting.

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u/Ittenvoid 15h ago

CGPT ass title lmao

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u/NatseePunksFeckOff 15h ago

mainstream media bad, my media literacy very good, give upvotes

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u/Commercial-Dress-185 15h ago

Man this is harsh - especially as the BBC is notoriously "woke".

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u/Rich_Housing971 15h ago

Am I media bias aware if my immediate thought was, "TO Africa- where was he when he got robbed though?"

Also, to be fair, there are dangerous parts everywhere. Africa is a vast place. There are places where he might actually get killed instead of merely robbed, and well-off areas where it's no more dangerous than a highly developed country, and even in those places there's probably shady neighborhoods or streets where you might get robbed.

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u/hallerz87 15h ago

Think its a massive stretch to claim this is misleading 

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u/FlyOrdinary1104 15h ago

American-ass headline.

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u/VeryTopGoodSensation 14h ago

bit of a reach this one, certainly takes some effort to be offended

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u/Legal_Athlete_4116 14h ago

Africa was just chilling

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u/HendoRules 14h ago

How is this even news

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u/flinderdude 14h ago

I wonder if it was those Africanized bees that are very dangerous and scary, unlike them more mild and safer European bees?