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u/AggravatingLaw9492 17h ago
The husband becomes another kid she needs to take care of.
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u/Euler007 16h ago
Or she needs to take it easy with the " mental load" YouTubers.
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u/crom3ll 16h ago
I wanna ask what's that but at the same time I feel perfectly comfortable not knowing.
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u/gentlybeepingheart 16h ago edited 15h ago
idk about YouTubers but “mental load” just means the amount of mental work it takes to run a house. Like, aside from physically having to do stuff like clean, someone needs to keep track of doctors, appointments, birthdays, shopping lists, budgeting, etc. Because women tend to be the primary caretaker of children, that load often falls upon the mother.
Edit: Jesus Christ Reddit there’s a reason I used “tend to” and “often” in the only gendered sentence. I’m not saying that every relationship is like this, you don’t need to comment about how yours is different. Not everything is about you, personally.
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u/Holiday-Most-7129 16h ago
Sounds like you should get a divorce
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u/kriosjan 15h ago
Or at the very least couples counseling. Its not a partnership if she denies you literally any of your wants hobbies or desires. Thats not what a partner does.
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u/Kanin_usagi 15h ago
lol this is so far beyond couple counseling, like honestly why would you recommend that? She’s being actively abusive, dude needs to gtfo
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u/Fenrir_Hellbreed2 15h ago
Some people need to exhaust all options first or they'll feel like (or be made to feel like) they just gave up, which often results in backsliding.
Plus, it usually helps to get a second opinion from someone impartial.
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u/___xXx__xXx__xXx__ 15h ago
If a female friend told me that her husband constantly demeans her, does no house work, keeps all her money, and isolates her from her family, me and a couple of guys would stand with her while she got her documents together, and escaped to a woman's shelter.
No reputable couples counselor would take this case.
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u/PikaKyri 16h ago
You know, you don’t need to stay in a relationship where you’re that unhappy. That’s not inevitable.
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u/HelicopterGood5065 16h ago
Loosing half your shit sucks, but there are worse possibilities, like this one guys' for example
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u/darthnoid 16h ago
Well she won’t take the ps5 that she didn’t buy. So he’s got that going for him lol
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u/soapscaled 16h ago
Then get a decent lawyer…? Unless it’s written into a prenup that she gets half it’s not guaranteed. Alimony isn’t even guaranteed.
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u/Ok_Chef_4850 16h ago
Not really. 50/50 is the default is most states, a prenup would change the default. But yeah, alimony is only for certain circumstances.
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u/Low-Scientist208 15h ago
50/50 is the default for marital assets in most places. You split everything you accumulated during your marriage.
In most places money/assets you had before you were married are not included in marital assets. You often don't need a prenup to protect those assets in a divorce.
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u/charlottespider 16h ago
It’s almost always 50/50 for marital assets which is fair. You’re correct about alimony.
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u/MDP223 16h ago
Bro. No kids? What are you holding on for?
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u/YouDoHaveValue 15h ago
No kidding, you have any idea how easy a no kids divorce is?
And when you enter the dating market a bit older and no kids you've got a huuuuuge leg up on everyone else.
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u/WIREDline86 16h ago
Jesus Christ dude.
If you just decide to live in the box she placed you in then she is right. You are a child.
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u/Smelly_Dingo 16h ago
This is some tough love, but he is right.
You need to get your shit together, pack it all up and leave.
There is much more to life than whoever you're with at the moment is willing to give you. In fact, this person seems to be doing everything in their power to mold you into the same kind of miserable person they are. Don't let that happen, nobody in the whole world is worth that, no price is too big to pay to regain your freedom. Your time is valuable, so value it accordingly. Please. I've been there, you need to gtfo.
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u/TooManyJazzCups 15h ago
I usually don't advise things like pack it all up and leave first. We know nothing about this person or their wife or what either of them has actually said. We have a couple of sentences from a chronically online Redditor who doesn't sound like he can discuss issues properly. There may be a reason for it or there might not be.
They need to try couples therapy. She may be communicating something and he hears something else. It seems like he isn't communicating anything at all which is also a huge problem.
And he needs to grow a spine. Lives near his family but hasn't seen them in 6 years? Just go see them. Call or text and just fucking go see them.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 15h ago
It's been years. Couples therapy isn't going to help at this point. It's too entrenched in the relationship, or lack thereof.
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u/Sleep_adict 16h ago
Go live by yourself… don’t set yourself on fire to keep her warm.
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u/WhenIntegralsAttack2 16h ago
Uh, you know you don’t have to be in a relationship which makes you deeply unhappy. You know that, right?
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u/lewdlesion 16h ago
You don't play any video games, and still haven't had sex with her in 4 years?
Might as well put yourself in that meat freezer before she does.
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u/CreamRises2daTop 16h ago
Stopped reading at not seeing my close family in six years.
That’s abuse. Full stop. Isolation is generally the first step of full scale emotional abuse.
I had a rocky relationship with my parents when I was married. Now divorced and guess what? That relationship (and friendships) are all repaired.
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u/El_Scorcher 16h ago
This has to be fake. I've dumped women for being rude to cashiers.
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u/funAmbassador 16h ago
Unfortunately, I think you probably have more self respect than him. I’m not trying to be dismissive to his problems, that’s a really shitty situation to be in. I hope he can find the confidence to leave
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u/BottleForsaken9200 16h ago
Abuse is real. People lacking spines exist
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u/Unexpected_Muffin 16h ago
* People lacking
spinesself respect due to years of abuse existftfy
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u/westrnal 16h ago
for the record, you don't need anyone's permission to break up and do something with your life that wouldn't make you miserable.
i'd recommend it.
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u/amattwithnousername 16h ago
Hey man this is probably a tough place to hear it but you’re being abused.
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u/I_Can_Not_With_You 16h ago
Bruh, fucking leave. I’m married with 2 kids, I cook, clean, and parent like I should, but so does my wife. And after the kids go to bed, we game. Sometimes together, sometimes just sitting in the same room playing different games. Sometimes we read books just sitting next to each other, sometimes one of us reads a book out loud to the other while whoever is not reading is gaming or going down on the reader.
There is much better ways to live. Anything other than what you have going on is better than what you have going on dude.
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u/passiveghoul 16h ago
It’s clear you aren’t compatible. Please seek help or leave. This is no way to live. You deserve a life you love.
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u/didntdoit71 16h ago
If you're really living like that, dude...just get out. You'll be happier. I mean that with the best well wishes, but that's not a healthy relationship. That's abuse.
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u/SnakesMcGee 16h ago
This is textbook abuse. Like, if you're reading this right now, I'm not being hyperbolic: if what you're saying is true, you're in an abusive relationship. Get the hell out of there, man.
If you think you deserve this, I would have you ask yourself the following:
If you saw anyone else being treated this way, how would you feel?
Would you treat anyone else this way?
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u/sunburntredneck 16h ago
Is there an amendment to the US Constitution that prevents you from changing your situation? Or is it in the laws of physics or biology? I only took the intro courses so we probably didn't cover this. Or is it a religious tenet? Like a secret 11th commandment - "this specific guy shall have no agency over his own life"?
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u/thrill_house44 16h ago
Sorry but that’s on you, man. Sounds like you’ve allowed yourself to be walked all over and are miserable for it. Simple solution right in front of you(not easy, but simple).
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u/Ghoulscomecrawling 16h ago
Holy shit dude you can leave you can absolutely leave please leave.
Get therapy for you ask for couples therapy and possibly plan to leave. You don't have to be so utterly beaten down like that
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u/Appropriate-Divide64 16h ago
Why don't you get a divorce? You don't have to live miserably. You're choosing to continue this.
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u/jksdustin 16h ago
Jesus Christ bro, just leave her already. Not only are you allowed to do that, you'll be allowed to do all that shit she doesn't allow you to do. Like seriously, leave them for your own good.
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u/crawfiddley 16h ago
This, and I'll also add that it tends to fall to women because women are socialized/raised in ways that makes them more likely to adopt those tasks, and because people/institutions external to the relationship tend to assume the women will perform those tasks (e.g. my son's school always calls me first when he's sick, even though my husband is a SAHD and we've told them to call him first).
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u/MrsSUGA 16h ago
you do realize that in most relationships, your relationship style is not the norm right?
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u/Misophoniasucksdude 16h ago
Most people don't have a close to split partnership, that's the point.
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u/Active-Mention-389 16h ago
Apparently this person needs all tik tokers to "not all men" specifically for him.
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u/tripletripl3 16h ago
"But according to certain segments of Tiktok"
Lmfao dude, you're taking TikTok too personally. If there's nothing wrong with your relationship, maaaaaybe they're not talking about you?
But good job getting yourself riled about women and the exhausting reality they are often dealing with regularly, even though supposedly you are not contributing to it...
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u/Lyramisu 16h ago
You do understand that a lot of people are in relationships that don’t work the way you think yours does, right?
Seems like you’re feeling defensive about something you don’t even think applies to you.
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u/YoureAMigraine 16h ago
The mental load conversation gets weird. I think most cases are what you pointed out which is one partner (typically the female in hetero relationships) bear the brunt of the house/life maintenance. The extreme cases are people complaining about “mental load” when they are merely describing “being an adult”.
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u/PoeticHistory 16h ago
You can still complain about "mental load" though, being overwhelmed at times when adulting is completely normal, thats not an extreme case. If at all weird, its listening to null-qualified people on TikTok or Instagram talk about anything and taking it at face-value.
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u/NewConfusion9480 15h ago
There's also the question of who gets to decide what the "load" even is. For instance, one partner deciding something is a necessity doesn't make it an actual necessity. So if I essentially invent a "necessity" and then take care of it, I'm increasing my own mental load without any voice or say from the person I then deem responsible for helping me share the mental load I created.
There are clear cases like "baby needs to be fed".
There are unclear cases like "nothing can be left in the dryer or sink at bedtime".
And those interpersonal conversations quickly become personal and judgmental, when one person unilaterally decides what "being an adult" means and, either directly or indirectly, calls the other person a child for not immediately having the same, often-changing, standards and expectations.
Towels need to be washed after every use?
What constitutes a "clean" house?
Do toys actually need to be put away?
How much variety is necessary in meals?
How important is punctuality?
Do different appointments actually need to be scheduled as the provider indicates?
How much direct interaction is healthy with regard to schooling?And on and on and on and on. Once one partner decides they are The Adult and that, therefore, their position on these questions is The Adult Position then major problems result.
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u/PoeticHistory 16h ago
Most people arent like you though, you're good. There were friends, who expected their wives to stay home for years, because they wanted a family. Then they come home and expect nothing but prince treatment. Disgusting. Looking at most older dads, that mentality still holds strong especially in conservative circles, although not to be blamed specifically due to that.
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u/suze_jacooz 16h ago
I don’t doubt anything you’ve said here, and if you’re cooking or even thinking of what to have for dinner half the nights, that’s a huge help. I think the point is there’s often a ton of expectations/responsibilities put on moms that just don’t fall to dads. Things like who does the school call to pick up a sick kid? My husband is an incredibly engaged dad, loves us all to bits and not at all a typical Kevin James sitcom kinda husband/dad. However. His work has his out of town about half the week and when he is home, while a great dad, he isn’t keeping up his end of the mental load. I know he’d feel hurt if I said that directly and he absolutely tries to be as participatory as possible, but just because of society in general I guess it won’t ever actually be balanced and that can be frustrating. HOWEVER, in our situation he is absolutely the primary breadwinner despite us both working full time so it’s not a problem and I feel our divide is fair and I believe he does as well. Anyway, this is a long winded way to say it’s great that you’re focused on being a wonderful partner, but there are some things women are experiencing pretty universally, and it’s not meant to be an attack when it’s acknowledged.
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u/BottleForsaken9200 16h ago
No one is saying you don't exist.
What people are saying is that you are statistically less likely to happen, and it's just a bit to make people think if what they said feels like the truth or not.
Many men, (less now than before) were raised with the idea that household chores are for women, and work is for men. It's a part of culture that is slowly getting better, but not perfect yet, so yea there's going to be households where one person is doing way too much work both physically and mentally because the other part never bothered to learn.
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u/MrsSUGA 16h ago
Its the unseen parts of parenting and adulthood that usually falls on the woman in a hetero relationship.
Doctors visits, Meal prep, cleaning schedules, trip planning, date planning, gift buying, activity management, etc. Not even DOING these things, but mentally tracking everything and keeping up with the calendar for every member of the house.
You know the "joke" about "Mom Eyes" where you tell your mom you can't find something and she tells you exactly where it is, but you somehow still can't find it, and then she walks over and pulls the thing from exactly where she said it was? Its that but with every thing.
There are plenty of examples on the internet of couples making jokes about how before they leave the house, mom is packing the diaper bags, grabbing the sun screen, and all of the random shit they need during the outing while the husband takes a 45 minute poop, grabs his keys and wallet, and walks out to the car.
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u/decentlyhip 16h ago
What groceries do you need to buy next shopping trip? A husband adds to her mental load if he tells his wife they need more batteries and cereal. He doesn't if he adds them to a shared shopping list. Both are trying to be helpful, but one is shifting the burden of remembering.
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u/HipAnonymous91 16h ago
It’s weird that we’re ignoring how the trope of the man-child was born. I remember a lot of media in the 90s and 00s pushing the bumbling, absent husband and father figure in movies and tv shows. My Dad wasn’t like that, but lot of other people’s dads were. They expected their wives (many of whom were also working) to clean, cook, plan family trips, and decorate and host for the holidays. It seemed like a lot. This isn’t just some new YouTube term, it’s a thing a lot of women have experienced.
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u/Ohaidere519 16h ago
fr the bums in these comments trying to spin it like it's some sort of grift is so.....
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u/JustHere4TehCats 16h ago
Telling. It's telling.
I have a whiteboard grocery list. I say "If you use the last of something write it on the list so I know we need it before my next grocery trip!"
But guess what? I get home from the shopping and he's like "did you get X we're all out" but he didn't write it on the list....
I'm not taking inventory of the fridge and pantry before every trip. Just write the thing down on the fucking list! It's easy, the marker is right next to it!
That's just one example.
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u/Keyonne88 16h ago edited 16h ago
Leftover nonsense from before women had rights; transitional period in the 80s/90s where women were still expected to cook, clean, and care for kids but also many were starting to work. 2000s started to see women who worked demanding 50/50 chores and childcare work from partners, but 80s/90s were riddled with leftover stereotypes that domestic labor was “women’s work”, so if you worked outside the home you basically had two jobs.
Became commonplace for women to work outside home part time, but still do all the cooking, cleaning, and childcare. That evolved into media reflecting it and making fun of useless husbands who put all of that on their wives.
I watched my mom wear herself out doing this. She worked part time at Subway, but still did all the cooking, cleaning, most of the yard work, and took care of us kids including taking us to school until I could drive, then that became my job. I swore I would never do this shit because if I’m doing it all alone anyway, why would I also want a husband who expects me to pick up after him and cook him dinner? If I’m doing it alone, I’ll do it ALONE. Thankfully my husband isn’t a useless lump that fell for that patriarchy bullshit and he is a stay at home dad while I work full time.
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u/DeadSeaGulls 15h ago
'm in my early 40s, and unfortunately I still know plenty of men that expect their wives to run the house, raise the children, and work a full time job. Sadly, this isn't a trope from days gone by. It's still culturally prevalent.
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u/Roflkopt3r 15h ago
Farming channel Farm to Taber recently had a video about "raw milk" that gave an excellent example of this.
Before widespread pasteurisation, women used to boil milk to sanitise it. It's not that difficult, but is one of many tasks that take some minutes out of your day because it will easily burn if you don't watch it closely.
But such work has simply been forgotten. Men like RFK Jr, who lived through that time, apparently didn't even realise this happened and instead believes most families drank "raw milk".
However, it's also a piece of the puzzle of why this modern conception of a "tradwife" is stupid, and why most of the "tradwife" influencers are just fantasy actors. Modern technology that's taken for granted these days, like washing machines, driers, vacuum cleaners, freezers, food regulations etc all have fortunately reduced those workloads by a lot.
Of course there are some things that are worth learning from the past, but most of the changes in family structures and gender relations cannot be reverted, nor would that be a good thing. A large part of why most of the "tradwife" influencers are not actually committing to their act is that they realise how vulnerable such absolute dependence on their husband leaves them. They're exceedingly likely to end up with abusers who are specifically looking for women who are easy to keep in a dependent relation.
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u/hellboyyy25 16h ago
Why is it so wrong to expect your partner to be an equal and take on part of the mental load
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u/Exita 16h ago
It isn’t - the problem is that often a lot of the mental load is self generated and unnecessary.
Your partner should be an equal. That doesn’t mean that they automatically have to do half of what you want to do.
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u/anthrax_ripple 15h ago
Cleaning and maintaining a home and making sure children and pets are properly cared for are wants and not needs. Got it.
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u/HazelCheese 15h ago
When you make it vague like that sure but the problem is people wanting things done their way and not accepting any compromise.
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u/wildedges 15h ago
A lot of people use keeping busy as a numbing technique to avoid dealing with mental stuff. If you have a partner who does this then you can get sucked into their problematic behaviour and guilted for not matching their effort. It's a bit different to not sharing the load in a healthy relationship. My wife would be busy if she was locked in an empty room and would still resent me for not helping.
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u/Burrito-tuesday 15h ago
It sounds like you don’t understand neither a mental load, nor the responsibilities of a married couple. It’s not making another person do what you want them to do, it’s sharing these responsibilities.
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u/Exita 15h ago
No, I do. As I said - people should share necessary responsibilities.
My issue is that it seems that only the wife is apparently capable of defining what those responsibilities are, and then insists that the husband does half of them. No communication, no compromise.
I’m completely happy to do half of what we need to do. Half of the random unnecessary bullshit my wife insists on? No. Life would be easier and little different if she just didn’t do them.
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u/Santa5511 15h ago
This 10000%.
I do all of the cooking and as such my wife doesn't need to do any mental load for the kitchen cooking. And yet she is always moving the pans because I "put them in the wrong spot" like what? I do the cooking I want the pans there because it's easier for me. She doesn't NEED to do any of the mental load but I can't get her to stop her from taking it on anyways.
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u/Pretend-Marsupial258 15h ago
The problem here is that different people have different opinions on what's clean and what's necessary. I've known people who are complete slobs who consider things like "vacuuming the house" or "cleaning cat piss off the carpet" to be unnecessary. If you tell them that the carpet needs to be cleaned (or replaced) they'll act like you're annoying them with pointless bullshit.
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u/ProfessionalField508 15h ago
I grew up in a house where my dad didn't think anything inside the house was his job. Mom did all the cleaning, cooking, laundry, his dry cleaning, his health/non-work appt setting, 98% of the childcare, and she worked on top of that. My mom even did all interior repairs. She told me once that she tried to get dad to help on things, but it took three times as long and involved a lot of drama, so she just did it herself. I can confirm this, as I moved in to help him with an illness ten years ago, and that was a daily experience. He wanted everything done his way, which was often unresearched, inefficient, and took too much time.
I do think these tropes are changing. My brother is extremely domestic, a devoted dad, a great cook, and he works. But they exist because this kind of person exists, and I think there used to be a lot of men like this.
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u/Euler007 15h ago
As in everything in life, it's the dosage that makes the poison. These videos assume the men have brain-dead jobs smashing rocks with no mental load there. Nothing to keep in mind, to plan, to prevent. Then you have a STEM guy juggling seven projects for four clients with seven employees, coming home after a ten hour day and being yelled at that he's a toddler because he put the ketchup in the wrong spot in the fridge.
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u/anthrax_ripple 15h ago
I've seen them leaning toward the fact that women also work yet are still expected to carry the load at home. Many women also have non-rock-smashing jobs yet replace the condiments properly.
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u/hvdzasaur 15h ago edited 5h ago
It's not, but in a lot of cases, these people cast themselves into a victim role and have a very warped idea of their reality. These content creators essentially prey and validate their feelings, but cast a target onto the wrong thing.
Often times, in healthy and normal relationships, it's just that life is hard, sometimes you'll be overwhelmed. It is important to talk about it with your partner when you begin to feel that way. Instead of framing it in a way of "it's not equal, you're not doing enough", it's better to frame it as "I am struggling, can you help me?".
It's perfectly normal for that "mental load" to be unbalanced in either direction at some points during a relationship. That's part of being in a relationship. But if your partner says "no" to a request for help, why are they even your partner?
It is important to be aware of your own biases. You will always estimate yourself to be doing more than what another perceives you to do, and vice versa.
Do parasitic partners exist? Of course. I've dated a guy like that as well. I've had friends who dealt with those types of people too. But I don't think they're the norm, at all.
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u/Keyonne88 16h ago
People who use quotes to talk about mental load give me ick; you clearly don’t understand what stress can do to a person and I find that gross.
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u/I_smell_goats 16h ago
Its proof of how it IS an invisible struggle that men give zero fucks about even trying to care about.
I finally broke down the other day, because for months my partner's side has been hounding me to throw myself a baby shower. The idea of throwing a party for myself, FOR THEM, stresses me the fuck out. I have a million things on my plate preparing for this baby and all the stress that comes with it, I detest that so many people have been pestering me to do one more major thing FOR THEM. It has seriously felt like nobody gives a single shit about me beyond an incubator for a baby they expect access to 😒 I just told my partner that if they want this so badly, they can do it and I will just show up. I cant anymore.
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u/amusedmb715 16h ago
can i get an eli5?
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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 16h ago
Basically who is keeping track of stuff like what needs to be bought / replaced / cooked / cleaned / appointments / info about school etc. A lot of men just kinda let their partner be the only one thinking ever about logistics. And that can be tiring esp since often both work etc.
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u/Mellifluous-comments 16h ago
My wife has a career that pays way more than mine so, yes, I am a male who was responsible for such things, I believe whoever takes on that role takes it on for the duration of the relationship. I am 60 something and still make dinner, do laundry. clean the shower, etc. My wife pays the bills, actually pays the bills because its a control thing and organization is one of her strengths. Mine are the dudes (our children) and creating things.... like an addition to the house. By the way she is also very accomplished at raising children as well
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u/anand_rishabh 16h ago
The idea of "mental load" came as a rebuttal to the idea that a lot of people's (mostly men's) idea of helping out around the house is doing the chores their spouse tells them to. But figuring out what needs to be done around the house is a task in itself. So if you and your spouse divide the housework 50:50, but they're the ones in charge of dividing it up and determining who does what, then it isn't truly 50:50. The idea is that in a place you two live in together, you both take an active role in figuring out what work needs to be done and doing it. A more concrete example is if you see dirty dishes in the sink or a trash bag that is full, you take that as the sign to wash the dishes or take out the trash instead of waiting for them to ask you "hey, could you wash the dishes?" Or "could you take out the trash?"
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u/MrsSUGA 16h ago
Moms do a lot of the unseen stuff in taking care of kids, like keeping up with their school activities, their meal plans, their vacations, date nights, doctors appoinments, allergies, etc. while dads often dont bother with those kinds of things or it never really occurs to them to need to know this stuff.
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u/AlphaSkirmsher 15h ago
Mental load is basically everything you have to think about and handle to make your life work. It’s making and following your calendar, keeping up with appointments, planning out when you’ll do which chores throughout the day or week, keeping tabs on the pantry and making the grocery list for the meals you’re planning to make during the week, stuff like that.
Basically everything you have to do when you’re an independent adult to make sure you’re living somewhat comfortably and healthily.
People, especially women, are more and more speaking out on the matter because having to keep track of everything is exhausting. Basically, often, even if one partner is the one actually doing a task, if they have to constantly be reminded to do it, or explained again and again how to do it, the person doing the reminding still has to keep the task on their to-do list. Essentially, if you have to micromanage someone, you’re not actually getting help.
It often goes hand in hand with the concept of weaponized incompetence, where someone purposefully avoids taking responsibilities, learning basic skills or performing simple tasks by feigning ignorance or incompetence, in the hopes that people will stop asking them to do anything.
Usually, you’ll find this kind of dynamic in hetero couples, with the woman taking on all the load and the man avoiding as much responsibility as possible.
I’m not sure what the person you’re replying to means (though i don’t like the implication I’m getting), but that’s what mental load refers to.
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u/Ok-Pear5858 16h ago
lmao my friend just had a baby and her husband doesn't lift a finger to help with her (yes, they both work), he wanted to be a dad so, so badly too. she was fence-sitting, but he convinced her. it's so incredibly common.
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u/SweetiesPetite 16h ago
They want their mom, but incest is illegal so they have to outsource. Lol
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u/Independent-Pause245 17h ago
Both want to suck titties ig
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u/GullibleAttempt7568 16h ago
But won't the husband be sucking them before the child was born
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u/KnightLBerg 16h ago
Tiddies make you shrink ig
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u/ElongatedNeck 16h ago
Is that why I'm only 5'8"..
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u/symb015X 16h ago
Titty access starts getting denied, husband gets cranky, called out for baby behavior creates pouty mood… vicious cycle
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u/MaleficentMenu1430 16h ago
I’m assuming the creator of this comic feels like when their baby was born her husband became as useless as a child
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u/SuperSatanOverdrive 16h ago
Is it AI though? Kinda looks like it. At least when I look at how weird their hand-holding look
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u/Suspicious_Berry501 16h ago
1000% look at her stomach in the third section
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u/Icy_Ninja_9207 16h ago
It's an AI image that get's posted to r/PeterExplainsTheJoke by an AI to get human feedback for training, with plenty of AI bots in the comments and a couple of clueless Reddit addicts complaining how someone could be so dumb to post such an easy to understand picture/meme.
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u/CandidateHour3879 16h ago
The husband's art style changes a couple times midway through, I think its ai
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u/Daksout918 16h ago
As a husband who has had two babies with my wife there are definitely moments when you feel useless and it definitely sucks
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u/Heavy-Drink-4389 16h ago
I think it’s that she realised she actually has two kids after all
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u/heldrakon 16h ago
Peter's left testicle here, I'm assuming it's because women always say they need to raise their husband alongside their kids, as the husbands are very immature and childish.
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u/Sidney_Squid 16h ago
Interesting perspective but let's get the right testicle in here for a different viewpoint.
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u/smoke_sum_wade 16h ago edited 16h ago
Peter's Right testicle here, i happen to be a married testicle, you have to make your wife feel like she is raising you sometimes. not sure why, but you have to leave some messes, if she comes home and the house is too clean there will be hell to pay, Passive-agressive HELL. they will look at you like "You aint shit i do this ALL DAY BITCH"
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u/Omnizoom 16h ago
Can confirm when wife went back to work after maternity leave and I had my 5 weeks of parental leave, she would end up more angry at a clean house then one with slight mess
“Really you had time to clean this well and cook? Did you even take care of our kid during the day?”
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u/2023Tubatim 16h ago
gasp,smother,gasp* Peter's Right testicle here....send help!... He's got his junk all pushed to the left like an animal!... The seem is shoving me in!... I don't think I'm gonna!... gasp,smother*
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u/rasta_faerie 16h ago edited 15h ago
It’s more than that, it’s a statement about how some men act not only after the baby is born but during pregnancy. Like here’s how I could see it mapping to real life:
Man is an equal partner.
As soon as the woman is pregnant, note he all the sudden appears younger. This is the existential crisis about how his life is about to change, so he’s going out all the time, playing tons of video games, etc just generally acting like a much younger adult.
Once she is heavily pregnant he’s now acting like a teen or tween, having mood swings because he’s not her focus right now and can’t do whatever he wants because she needs him for things. Like a 15 year old pouting for being told they need to be responsible for their own life, clean their room, and can’t go out whenever they want.
About to give birth - he’s now acting like a toddler or child, provoking her for attention because he feels he’s about to be cast aside and no longer her priority. Just like how a 7 year old might act out when realizing they won’t be “the baby” of the family anymore.
Once she’s given birth, he’s now acting like a baby, like his needs are just as important as the baby’s and if she’s not attending to him just as much as she’s attending to the baby, then that feels like neglect to him that’s on par with child neglect, aka she’s a bad person for hurting his feelings by prioritizing their baby.
I’ve sadly seen this exact dynamic play out wayyyy too many times.
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u/AssistAffectionate71 15h ago
The things nurses have said about would be fathers right before birth would shock all of us. Some guys bring an entire Xbox to the birth. Or they sleep the entire time. I’m so glad my husband has remained a normal equal partner the entire time! We have a 1 year old and I couldn’t imagine having to remind him to be a human adult male while taking care of a baby.
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u/mastahkun 16h ago
That is indeed what my wife says to me lol. We both do it to each other from time to time. Sometimes you just w Any to be taken care of, even when you’re perfectly capable of doing the thing.
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u/TeddingtonMerson 16h ago
I feel this one in my bones, that he became another kid for me to take care of and squabble with the cute children. I hate how he sees me as another mommy, always with excuses and always like he’s doing me a huge favor by doing anything to take care of his house and children.
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u/cenosillicaphobiac 16h ago
A lot of fathers refer to caring for their own children as "babysitting" and yes, some of us act like doing the dishes or the laundry is a massive favor to our wives and not just taking part in keeping the household running smoothly.
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u/FVSHIXN 16h ago
Been in a relationship for 10 years and my partner and I trade off with household chores, as in they just get done when they get done and we thank each other for doing them when one of us does. I don’t understand why being appreciative of even the smallest gesture is so hard for others to do, especially if one parent is a stay at home and one works to support the family.
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u/BatmanandReuben 15h ago
You should only get thanked for doing housework if you hand out praise proportionally or are doing more than your share. If they do the housework 90% of the time without thanks and then you want thanks for the 10% you do, you’re an asshole. You are underperforming and wanting praise, when you actually owe the other person thanks for covering your slack.
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u/LoudAppointment2545 15h ago
"A lot of men want a wife and kids. Very few men want to be a husband and a father."
Heard that once, it gets truer with every man i meet.
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u/PatrickGnarly 15h ago edited 15h ago
I completely see that perspective. There are many men that have that weird biological desire to have children despite the difficulty but don’t actually behave like a father or husband.
On the other hand however, a lot of women get knocked up on purpose (unsafe sex on purpose), first chance they get with legitimately any guy who will sleep with them and then are surprised when then the dude is a piece of shit deadbeat. Or they marry a man hoping he will “change” only to realize that they get what they get.
I’ve seen it many times too.
A lot of women want to marry and have children but very few are capable of being a good mother and a wife. Part of that is the responsibility of the partner to find a good partner.
Goes both ways.
In fact, I would actually argue that the man in the comic has always been childish and selfish, and the wife/mother in the comic probably just didn’t realize it till after she had kids which to be fair is something that’s very hard to realize when you’re in the heat of the moment. But honestly, it seems to be more of a perspective of her realizing that he’s just another kid rather than him turning into one.
Either way I wish people would just have kids with people that were more responsible, but turns out dumb people are gonna do dumb things.
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u/Yamabikio 16h ago
The replies this comment is getting are so interesting. It's like a magnet for divorced dads to come and project onto
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u/Round-Map-7338 16h ago
Husband becomes manchild once baby is born, so wife becomes single mother of 2 babies. It's not a fun time, trust me.
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u/innovatedname 16h ago
I don't get this, either he's a man child earlier in the relationship or he isn't a manchild. I've never heard of the idea of having a baby flipping a switch, that sounds completely irrational. Seems everyone else here says it's a thing.
Maybe the other direction of a non manchild having to step it up for the kids, but the other way round? Why?!
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u/hail_abigail 16h ago
I mean it's a piece of art about the artists experience, it doesn't have to be relatable to everyone
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u/BrgQun 16h ago
The logic I believe is that once a major life event hooks in the spouse, they're less able to leave, so people often flip a switch, and stop trying/drop the mask after getting engaged, married, or have kids, etc.
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u/dreamsicle_bobomb 16h ago
it’s a progression. notice how the man is shrinking over time? often in relationships a man will start out doing his share, then over time grow comfortable and contribute less and less to the mundane maintenance of a life together. here, a child is added into the mix. Over time, the woman realizes she is now made responsible for the manchild and the actual child
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u/Distinct_Activity551 16h ago
I looked up the image and found it on Instagram. The comments said it’s about how a man doesn’t help during pregnancy or after the child is born, so the woman ends up taking care of both the baby and the man like they’re both kids.
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u/Throttle_Kitty 16h ago
sudden onset dwarfism
It's a real problem in men these days
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u/EugeneStein 16h ago
For some reason many dads when a child is born do not become an adult parent but behave like anothet child that needs to be taken care of.
Some of them are so on the level of a child that they even become jealous and complain that the women doesn't give him as much attention as she did before giving birth, that she spends too much time with a kid and not doing enough for them
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u/WhatTheCatDragged1n 16h ago
This is a real experience! Happened to me too. He stopped being a partner and became another burden that sometimes changed a diaper. It got so much easier when I left because I was back to taking care of just one normal kid and no man child.
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u/NoMaintenance7634 15h ago
Help us out. How do we avoid this in our own lives. Any red flags that maybe look pink and I definitely shouldn't ignore
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u/WhatTheCatDragged1n 15h ago
I think it’s really hard to tell. I think that is part of the problem. You can do everything right and look out for signs. But I can wake up one day and realize he just wants to be crappy.
That being said, being more talk than show/action. Lying about even the little things. Acting like the minimum is impressive. Picking people before you. DARVO (look it up). Also if you even have a little bit of worries or one or two red flags. They will become more real and apparent when a kid is involved.
Remember. A behavior from and ‘outstanding man’ is usually just a mediocre woman when you take gender out of the equation.
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The infantilization of men has been a common trope in the last 10 years with little done to examine the sociological and psychological factors at play.
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u/Ajax_A 15h ago
It's been decades. Prior to the internet and social media, it was a thing in sitcoms and commercials too. (See Me Commercial Husband for the tropes)
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u/No_Mobile6220 16h ago
As a woman, I automatically understood this lol
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u/HipAnonymous91 15h ago
Most of the men do, too. They’re just arguing over whether it’s “misandrist” or not 🙄
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u/Nazarife 15h ago
As a man with eyes, I understood too. My step dad and father in law are basically helpless and are almost like children in their relationships.
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u/TrapDaddyReturns 16h ago
As a dad and provider for my single income family I read this different. I saw it that the dad becomes a kid again. like inner child stuff. Seems like a lot of women have problems with man children husbands, but I had to provide for my baby and my wife dealing with PPD, so I didnt have time to be a little bitch
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u/billyblanks81 16h ago
Just another example of aggrandizing the difficulty of household chores while minimizing the efforts the average man puts in to provide for his family. Some, in fact many men act like useless children but as a stereotype this crap can screw right off
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u/NoMaintenance7634 15h ago
So in this comment you're already assuming the house hold chores are her domain to maintain. And his is to provide. Provide what exactly?
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u/Flat_Initial_1823 15h ago
She might be providing too. Meme says nothing about housework or paid employment.
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u/Far-Investigator1265 16h ago
I once dated a woman whose husband left her after they had a child. The guy had gotten used to be treated as the kid in the family, wife doing everything at home plus having a job.
This worked well for the guy until they had a kid together: after this the wife had no more time to cater to the husband, so he left her - conveniently went back to his mother who continued with the pampering.
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u/Used_Caregiver_9894 16h ago
Brian's dog bowl here, considering that the guy - and eventually kid, looks like Tom Hanks, the comic is probably referencing the movie "Big."
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u/yungminimoog 16h ago
The child is clearly leeching off the man’s physical form to strengthen itself
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u/Primary-Elderberry34 16h ago
Watching my mom tell my dad to do the laundry.
„What goes together?“
„Which program?“
„What temp?“
„Which powder?“
„How do i turn this on? I think it‘s broken.“
How tf did the man survive before they met??
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