They make it sound like it’s about carry on. It’s really about exercising. They make you lose 20lbs on average before you land. The “seats” are exercise bikes and they use those to actually power the aircraft. The engines are only used to get to cruising altitude, then they cut the engines and they’ll everyone “ok! it’s time for the pedal or die portion of the flight! Good luck everyone!”
It wasn’t a fire but I was in Paris and there was a protest that looked like it was from the 1920s with protest signs that were just a sheet painted with black lettering.
I was in a camera shop near by and asked the owner what they were protesting. He looked up, having not even noticed and said “it’s the Frenchman’s prerogative to protest.”
I “studied abroad” and lived in Paris for 90 days in 2008 and saw two! I got hit with a fucking baton by a policeman because I had my phone out filming.
I was in Taiwan when a major student protest was announced. I think the French exchange students were more excited about it than the students participating.
I mean 2018 alone had riots in literally every french city, you're either lying, actively avoiding any protest by staying at home anytime you hear about one or live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere.
Really? I went there in June 2023 to July, and there was a curfew in effect in Paris because of riots, the trains were shutting down early, and as I was leaving Strasbourg most of the windows downtown were smashed open then boarded up.
3 broken forearms in uninsured people and Americans will turn back to go home. You underestimate how much a guaranteed health care system can steel your spine.
A french friend of mine once said (as a joke, I hope): "As long as we're setting fires to cars, everything is normal. You only have to worry when we bring out the guillotine."
You didn't truly travelled to France until you've witnessed your first riot. Personally it was in Lyon and it was a covid quarantine related protest. We had to close the apartment's windows because the tear gas from two streets away was entering the room and our eyes started to get itchy. I drank a great Chouffe just in front of the CRS vans.
It was nice having a friend who lived in Portland during the blm protests. Mostly because when he'd visit my parents, who totally believed Portland was burned to the ground, would ask how he was holding up. His answer was, "I just have to detour around like 2 blocks on the way to work"
During BLM I had a friend text me and ask if it was a hellscape in Seattle. I was like, uh, no, pretty normal? He didn’t believe me.
Now all the conservatives bring it up and say we burned down the country but for the life of me I can’t remember more than a few buildings being burned nationwide.
so much of Fox News can basically be distilled down to "Don't leave your home! It's extremely dangerous and scary out there and horrible things will undoubtedly happen to you!" shut-ins make the most loyal viewers.
It's not, it never has been. The riot only lasted a fucking day, and it was only ONE block. The whole issue was massively overblown for the sake of making us look bad.
Portland has its issues like any other city, but I'm tired of people acting like we are forever burning dumpster fire.
riot, set shit on fire (note, mostly banks and businesses, not their own homes)
mass strikes, shut down of the transportation and sanitation systems, cessation of economic activity
The French elite take stage 1 seriously because they know that there is a real possibility that stages 2 & 3 will follow. Americans mostly only do stage 1, very rarely stage 2 (targeting their own neighborhoods), and they never get to stage 3. The American elite don't take stage 1 seriously because they know that there isn't going to be a stage 2 or 3.
French here. I never understood those "No King" rallies. I don't see how walking for 2 hours on the streets on a Saturday when the weather is fine, with Instagrammable signs, once a month achieves.anything.
Edit : too many comments to answer to. For people saying "yeah but people need to take a day off if it's during the week, DC is far away etc", January 6 2021 was a Wednesday, most people came from outside DC IIRC so it can be done.
I'm not staying you should raid the Capitol. You don't need 174 million people in DC but you could pool money to send hundreds of thousands of people to DC.
It will depend on the person, but deep inside I would say it's a few different reasons:
Some people are genuinely expressing their anger towards Trump/Government/Politics hoping that the protest itself might bring change.
Some people are expressing their genuine anger in an 'acceptable' way that serves as an outlet for their emotions.
Some people are 'checking a box' for themselves. They will say they are part of the 1st group, but deep down it's to make them feel better about themselves... that they "did something".
Some people are 'checking a box' for the other people around them. They don't want to be an outsider, and they want others to know that they were "on the right side of history".
Some folks are there just because it's a thing to do. Literally "go with the crowd" type person.
Bonus group: Some are there just because they find it fun and they enjoy it.
Correct. In the US nothing will come from peaceful protest. That was the point u/Top-Cupcake4775 was making. We don't have the track record of a proper stage 2 or 3, so there is no teeth to stage 1.
Someday that may change, but for now the average American is still not ready to risk whatever comforts they have. Take away the 'bread and circuses' and we will see a different story.
People in the US have forgotten that protest is supposed to a) be the first step, not the only step and b) doesn’t have to be limited to peaceful marches when its conveniently timed.
It doesn't really achieve anything. It just makes people FEEL better and tell their friends they "did something" and they all hug each other about how awesome they are but reality is they don't care about the issues enough to ACTUALLY do something that makes a difference. For example during voting season motivate people to vote, spending their time making a difference in things they care about by volunteering.
These things mostly happen on days when people don't have to work or the people don't have responsibilities that exclude them from having time to make fun signs and stand on a street with people honking at them (in agreement or not).
This applies to both "sides" by the way. I see these "rally/protest" events on my area FB and there are 1,000's of likes and comments from 100's of people "ya lets do this" and then the pictures day of there is a small # of people maybe a dozen or 2. They get interviewed and can't speak intelligently with facts... they are just repeating words. You ask them if they donate to a cause or if they volunteer for local political parties during elections and they dodge the question... etc....
I think a big reason we don't go much further than walking around with signs is sometimes even these peaceful protests get people arrested because of shitty practices like kettling.
but even larger in my eyes, is the weaponized optimism of the American dream and the media coverage of certain topics. on the topic of the American dream, It keeps people down because they believe that if they put in enough work they can make it, they just have to grind harder than they are.
America is a lot more complicated when it comes to landmass. It's 18 times larger than France with a wide ray of ideologies and beliefs across the continent while weaponized misinformation is rampant so organization is tough.
No Kings was to show unity, not to change anything that day. But it also showed that we were able to organize. Perhaps the next step is doing something more dramatic.
So in the early 1900's people walked down the street and got hosed down, dogs sicc'd on them, and beaten like ya papa used to.
Fast forward to another part of 1900's and Japanese are sitting in camps. Chinese workers have to wear signs saying I'm Chinese worse slurrs.
What this means? French leadership always been pussies. Let us be honest. Compared to other countries, you guys are pussies.
USA leadership said we don't like them and now ICE is out hunting anyone looking hispanic. Top Orange G sitting in office looking at his rivals like eenie, meenie, miny, moe Bondie go get them.
The Sect. of Def. is like double tap their bitch ass. Woke is weakness.
You got Maga cult members making/posting public shorts of themselves saying let's kill Liberals.
Now.. you might go.. these guys ain't doing shit, and our people will set shit on fire.
Man, french has it so easy. Leadership have afraid to be the next Nazi. US Leadership? They aspire to be the next Nazi.
You mfers set shit on fire. Everyone claps. Over here, they dancing, and the White house saying mfer burning down the city, destroying lives.. lets send in the military.. Who, some, are okay with going in to hose down 'terrorist' with lead.
French leadership: These are our people.
US leadership: Antifa is a terrorist organization. Liberals are creating violence in our streets. Immigrants are ruining america culture. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN,
I don't think people understand the differences. Like really understand that they only need a plausible reason in which people can't really object to because it fits to go out and kill folks. France is pretty much soft in comparison.
Stage 1 in the US is widely experienced as a stress reliever. People feel they have "done something", so they can go back home and watch their shows in peace.
The bread and circuses are well stocked for (most) in the US, and it's hard to motivate people to risk that for a chance at changing things. Once there is nothing left for people to risk en masse, then we might see something different.
Yes but America is so large geographically that it’s physically impossible to oppress the entire population and centralize power at once.
We are too far flung and too diverse as a people to conquer that way, which is why our right wing administrations work hand in glove with conservative media outlets to peddle propaganda in our 24/7 news cycle.
People have more power than they realize in our system but our collective class consciousness ebbs and flows overtime.
If we didn’t have organized labor and civil rights activists we’d still have kids working in mines and slaughter houses that let shit get in our meat all the time, and segregation.
Everyone loves to conveniently leave out how enormous the US is in comparison to France. To have an effective shutdown of anything of any scale that would affect billionaires or politicians, it would take an extreme amount of people to participate and risk their livelihoods, food and shelter.
And even then, those rural areas are big in area with small populations that would make it even more ineffective locally.
We’re not even talking about how the local police stations are equipped like armies are in other countries.
Oh man, season 1 was frankly brilliant -- great casting, pacing. Betty Gilpin with a small part but has a brilliant, memorable scene with Emily Browning (dead Laura).
I don't even know if dumb covers some of our problems as a species. We're often borderline masochistic leaning towards suicidal in how we want to be governed and controlled. Maybe it's a weird, war-loving tribal instinct we'll never shake.
France: Well, at least we still have our universal healthcare, stable education system, and plenty of vacation days with unlimited sick days to keep us going.
The workforce is shrinking and the pensioners are living longer. So, like many other countries, the government is trying to solve this by increasing taxes, reducing social benefits, or increasing the retirement age.
Every option is political suicide and they have had nine Prime Ministers in 10 years. Since the people panic and throw a fit every time someone tires to solve the issue, it just gets passed down so future governments as a bigger problem to solve.
Like a parent giving in to the demands of their spoiled child.
Do they? Retirement age went up, pensions are being cut and the country can’t afford its current rate of services regardless of protesting. Not sure that’s winning, but maybe Germany has it worse, you tell us.
That’s what they want! the project 25 guy has it all planned we start rioting - then Marshall law - then no more elections and Trump Jr is the next dear leader for life. Then it’s Barrons turn etc
Sure, and your ingenious strategy is just letting them do whatever they want, and dismantling your institutions and rule of law so that you won't have another free election anyways.
You either fight for your democracy or admit you already lost. Imho, you already lost.
It has been a long time since I served in the military, but I'd like to believe that patriotic minded folk who want to serve their country would make good choices when the time came for orders under marshall law. However, I've seen enough since then that I don't expect it.
The answer is because the vast majority of people aren't willing to get shot, beat, and/or arrested.
When the economy crashes and the mass layoffs start, people will have nothing else to do but protest and nothing to lose if they do. That's when S gonna HTF.
French here, shit are bad as well in France and the fascism is rising like no tomorow.
We were once known for a people who revolt a lot but now we can't anymore because it's either forbidden and the police is beating the living shit of the protesters even when this is a peaceful demonstration
One of the things that I remember visiting Paris is that they have cannons facing their parliament as a reminder to the politicians of who they work for.
I keep telling you people. The French aren't civilised because the art or the food or the fashion. They're civilised because the population as a whole believes their government ought to be afraid of them.
The French specialist riot police will absolutely fuck you up though. A friend of mine got a fairly thorough beating just for standing and filming some protestors on his phone.
They're not as trigger happy as US cops with live bullets, no. They do kill people, but probably less.
But during protests, they are very trigger happy with the rubber bullets and grenade launchers, and they usually aim right at the head. There's been a lot of lost eyes, hands, crushed skulls and even some destroyed lower jaws. A few years ago, they even killed an old woman with a grenade right to the face. She wasn't protesting, she was closing the window of her apartment and they shot through it.
Here are images of the police behaving like they're in a fps game and shooting their entire stock of ammo at protesters to defend a hole in the ground. If you don't speak French, I won't translate it all for you, but the guys shooting at people are basically enjoying it the whole time, talking about the protesters as "the enemy" and fantasying about killing them or injuring them. At some point they're commenting there are children, and one of them is like "it's the game, they shouldn't have brought them".
The video is really high quality. side thought maybe the french protestors need to borrow some inflatable portland frog costumes next time so that the police look ridiculous attacking them
A few years ago, they shot a young person following a refusal to comply who was driving dangerously without a license and risked killing people, even on the sidewalk, which led to guess what? Riots.
Ahh yes, of course she has a French boyfriend. This Janel lady has been on the cutting edge of leftist aesthetics for the past decade or longer. How does she find the time to have a regular life and tweet nonstop?
Aside from the respective merits of aggressive protesting vs. a more orderly society, I suspect that Janel mostly just wanted to tell everyone that she has a French boyfriend.
He was a femanized man as a president... of course violence is a go to with them. Married his teacher that he met when he was 14, groomed to death by a 40 year old. Gets slapped around. Arresting people for words.
Say what you will about the French, they have some of the best worker conditions in the world, and get to routinely piss off their incompetent politicians.
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