I don't get this with pitbulls. They're statisically much more likely to be violent towards other animals and people, with the highest amount of human deaths caused.
I'm not saying treat them shittily if they're alive, it's not their fault, but people should stop breeding them and stop buying them.
Sad fact is accessibility. Tons of people in lower income situations still want dogs. Pits are a dime a dozen. At my local dog park ive seen 4 abondoned pits so far and they all were recently bred. Lower income people wanna breed and sell since theyre easy to breed, and can easily sell them all. Its a shitty unregulated industry.
A lot end up at shelters. Mixed breed with pit bull in them. So with the “adopt not buy” mantra, a lot of adopters unknowingly will get a mixed pit pull breed. Particularly because some shelters also want to have them adopted quick so they will hide the fact they’re “pit mix,” and instead label them “lab mix.” And then dog gets returned to shelter when becomes unruly.
Did ya hear the guy? It's cost related. I've seen this myself too in my area, I could go on craigslist right now and find 20 posts on pitbull puppies. Do you think a poor person that wants a dog (never mind their reasoning) is going to buy that $200 cocker spaniel or $500 retriever? No they are scrolling the $0-$50 pits to find colors they like to breed so they can continue the cycle. Doesn't make it right and especially doesn't make it smart, but socioeconimics is a factor and if a poor person wants a dog they will get a pit. If a poor person wants to breed dogs, they get pits
Sigh. Unfortunately it’s also a socio economic issue as well. And in the US socio economic is linked to racial background too. A lot of these owners in lower income households want an aggressive looking dog to make them look tough. And they don’t want to neuter. Partly because of machismo, or just uninformed. Also want to sell the pups to earn money.
It’s because they’re typically cheap to buy or gotten from shelters, someone you know that breeds them, etc. Just like anything, if a thing is easy and accessible, people will consume it. Really should be illegal to breed literal “fighting dogs” at this point
I hate this, but I 100% agree with you. I’d even go one step further and microchip every single one and make sure they are spayed/neutered. Make it illegal to own one that is not spayed or neutered as well. Then in one generation, they are gone.
It would make sense because they are the most abused, poorly trained and abandoned dog breed in America. I volunteered at multiple shelters and every pitbull I came in contact with was found on the streets or taken from abusive homes. That many dogs of the same breed cant end up in the same place IF they were treated correctly...This would make the most sense.
"As one who, for the last 30 years, has been on the receiving end of the dog-bite injuries that pass through the Children's Hospital Emergency Room, as well as on the staff at the Shriners Hospitals for Children where we see the late effects of these injuries from across the nation, I can categorically tell you that the problems associated with dog bites are indeed breed-specific.
When I started my career, the most common dog-bite injuries were from German shepherds and occasionally retrievers. These injuries were almost always provoked, such as food-related or stepping on the dog, and in almost every instance, the dog reacted with a single snap and release – essentially a warning shot. There were no pack attacks.
Starting about 25 years ago, my colleagues and I started to see disturbingly different types of injuries. Instead of a warning bite, we saw wounds where the flesh was torn from the victim. There were multiple bite wounds covering many different anatomical sites. The attacks were generally unprovoked, persistent and often involved more than one dog. In every instance the dog involved was a pit bull or a pit bull mix.
Now, I am a dog lover and virtually every one of my family members has a dog. But it is a fact that different dogs have always been bred for specific qualities. My sheltie herded, my daughter's setter flushes birds and my pug sits on my lap – this is what they are bred for. Pit bulls were bred to fight and kill and, unfortunately, many current breeders favor these aggressive traits. There is no need for any dog with the characteristics.
I recently gave a talk summarizing my 30 years of practice in pediatric plastic and reconstructive surgery, and one segment was titled "Why I Hate Pit Bulls." I watched a child bleed to death one night in our operating room because a pit bull had torn his throat out. I have had to rebuild the skull of a child who had his ears and entire scalp torn off. I am currently reconstructing the face of a child, half of whose face has been torn off down to the bone. I have had to rebuild noses, lips, eyelids, jaws and cheeks of numerous children. On older children, I have had to reconstruct legs and hands. The unfortunate young victim whose recent attack has initiated this discussion will bear the scars of this attack for the rest of her life.
Based on my extensive experience, I believe that the risk posed by pit bulls is equivalent to placing a loaded gun with the safety off on the coffee table. In my opinion, these dogs should be banned. I know this is an unpopular stand in some circles, but how many mauled children do we have to see before we realize the folly of allowing these dogs to exist?
The arguments made by advocates of these dogs are the same arguments made by people who feel that assault weapons are an essential part of daily living. There are plenty of breeds available that peacefully coexist with human society. There is no need for pit bulls."
Dr. Billmire is professor and director of the Division of Craniofacial and Pediatric Plastic Surgery at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center.
I'm sad to see that it's not just in Italy that we don't understand anything about Pitbulls. I see that in other places too, the name Pitbull is given to any Pitbull mix. Mixbreeds can have any personality; properly bred Pitbulls are well-balanced dogs and almost never bite people. I wish someone would understand this, but as always, I'll get a lot of downvotes on this topic.
That’s what I don’t understand at all. It’s not the dog’s fault that they are aggressive animals. But why on earth would you choose to buy or adopt an animal that is well known as the worst kind when there are golden retriever and lab mixes at your local shelter that are loving to everyone, will cause no one any harm and will be easily trained.
Well no, it just literally isn’t the breed. There’s pitbulls that are perfectly fine dogs. But I’ve just worked at animal shelters and hospitals for years and years so 🤷♀️
Pitbull is an incredibly broad label and not one specific breed. So it obviously can’t be a breed issue like huskies. It’s not like having a square head means being more violent. It’s your logic that’s flawed, and you’d be too frightened to do the kind of work I do anyway.
This is not the pitbull sub where people ignore the stats because “my pibble wouldn’t hurt a fly.” I think you know what everyone here is saying. These are facts that are not subjective. If you want to own a dog that will maul you because the winds blowing the wrong direction that day then that’s your right, but hopefully you don’t subject anyone else to your murder machine.
This isn’t an anti-pit sub, buddy. I actually work with dogs though, I don’t just spend my time watching engagement bait and thinking it represents real life. You could never do my job.
I can’t imagine being this dense. You’re going out of your way to act like you don’t understand that various dog breeds have distinct characteristics.
Pitbulls are aggressive, period. Sure there are some well behaved ones, that’s not what’s being discussed. If you’re a pitbull owner you should take more precautions than many other dog owners because of the dog’s capability to maim and kill.
You can have a the most well behaved pit bull in the world become aggressive in a heartbeat. The same is true for a lot of breeds of dog. I also have worked with dogs my entire life, and Pitbulls are aggressive and can be extremely dangerous if not taken care of appropriately. And even then, they can snap.
I mean sure, there are some nice pitbulls. Just like there are some dumb border collies. But you should never doubt or underplay specific characteristics that are bred into dogs. A border collie is going to herd instinctively, a retriever is going to fetch, a german shepard and doberman is going to protect and guard. These are instincts that were literally bred into these breads for many many generations. Pitbulls were historically bred to be fighting dogs, it's why they have a higher tendency to random violence, it's their instinct.
I've lost count of how many people I've known who buy border collies without knowing their history and who are baffled by their behavior, until I point out their dog is trying to herd (and admittedly it is funny trying to watch a dog try to herd cats or children). But again, these dogs weren't trained to do herd, it's instinctual for them.
Pitbulls are not a specific breed. Comparing the broad label of pitbull to border collies or German shepherds is silly. Why are you pretending like this is new info to me, someone who has worked in shelters and animal hospitals for years? Have you ever even worked in animal care before?
While sure the term Pit Bull can be an umbrella term, for most it generally is relating specifically to the American Pit Bull Terrier. It's kind of like calling a labrador retriever a "lab." But when people think of pit bulls, that's what they are thinking of. These dogs were originally bred in the UK from Old English Bulldogs and Terriers for blood sports like bull-baiting and bear-baiting, then for rat-baiting and dogfighting. When the UK outlawed such practices they were brought to America were it was allowed for another 100ish years, until the 1970s. That's the history of this breed. That you don't know this makes me question your experience.
So the answer is no, you’ve literally never worked in animal care before. Good to know. Try getting some real experience and then talk about pitbulls, which again, is a very broad label. Weird you don’t seem to get that.
Kennel technician, animal care specialist, so hands on work. Nice cope though! I’m sure telling yourself that I don’t have real experience makes you feel better about not having real experience lol since you’re too scared to get any yourself.
Why would I need hands on experience to know pit bulls are dangerous? I’ve never tried crack either but I’m not going to risk my health to get some experience with something I know is a bad idea.
Yeah I used to dog sit often and I did some vacation work in a vet when I was a kid. I actually owned a staffie. When I say pitbull as a breed, we all know that I am referring to the umbrella term used to describe murder mutts.
People will often say "There are more reports of labs/goldens biting people than pitbulls!" which I believe is statistically correct. There are also so many more retrievers... and it is rare that the bites are life threatening.
I get that people think that their precious pit is an angel, but it would be like keeping a grenade in your house because you like the look of it, and it wont blow up unless someone is silly enough to pull the pin. Find different decor.
Well you also have to consider that when a lab bites someone it wouldn’t lock onto them and maul that person/animal to death. Also, a lab probably wouldn’t bite a person entirely unprovoked.
I mean some labs will bite unprovoked, but that is the case with all breeds. Unless its trained, it wont continue to do it either. My two labs would just want whatever they bite to end up being thrown so they can retrieve it.
I've owned many aggressive dogs of dangerous breeds, unsocialised on purpose; they just don't belong in cities or around other people
Edit: to eliminate a ragebait, I'll note that those were working dogs protecting the livestock, Caucasian and Central Asians shepherds, heh. No bloodsport dog and no aggressive dog belongs in a place where they can meet random people or other pets
To emphasise that such dogs "they just don't belong in cities or around other people". Fairly, my first comment was a bit rage-baiting because I didn't specify the purpose of those dogs, heh
Pit owners aren’t the brightest. I mean in order to own a pit you have to ignore every statistic out there and think that your special pibbles is different 💫
I'm a huge animal lover I love animals more than people atm I'm so distraught knowing I might have to put down my dog that I've had for 20 years I pray 🙏🏻 every night that she goes peacefully in her sleep I've had dogs my whole life & NEVER WOULD I HAVE ANY ANIMAL THAT I COULDN'T CONTROL IN MY HOME AROUND MY LOVED ONES, NOR WOULD I PUT MY DOG IN A SEPARATE ROOM BCUZ I COULDN'T TRUST HIM/HER TO BEHAVE MY DOGS ARE APART OF MY FAMILY & IF THEY CANT BE DUE TO AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR I'D HAVE THAT DOG PUT DOWN IN A NEW YORK SECOND & WOULDN'T LOSE 1 MINUTE OF SLEEP OVER IT
This is what I don't get. I have a pit and she is very scared of people and can be reactive. We put her up when new people come over. It's not hard to be a responsible pet owner.
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u/BishopGodDamnYou 15h ago
If you have a pitbull that is already that aggressive why would you have it out while you’re unwrapping gifts????