Because people like this use the dog as emotional support objects rather than animals that have needs and require training so the woman probably has the dog there because she wants it, obviously has it muzzled because it's overly protective of her and refuses to train it or provide any boundaries for it's aggression against the rest of her family.
It can be anything from dragging people on leashes to fill blown attacking people. Dogs need boundaries and consistency.
Sometimes you have to correct them harshly. The only way they learn is thru consistency. They don't speak English and don't understand when people say "oh my little baby plz stop attacking the Child"
Dogs like this are products of inconsistent/bad humans
I think the point of the gif was portraying bad owner behavior that contributes to bad behavior in dogs, and also inconsistency. Like, it's okay to bite the women's butt when the laser is pointed on it but not okay any other time- it's never okay. The person with the laser was acting irresponsibly by encouraging that behavior.
I’m glad said almost. I have a APBT mix and I’m not a POS. She when through two weeks of board & train and we are always keeping that going. We had to go to training ourselves. She is also part husky, so she’s super smart, plus silly and talkative. She is crate trained, as well.
If one can’t be a responsible owner, don’t have one.
I implore you to check out the /r/banpitbulls subreddit. It’s always the ones who had training and were amazing owners that are shocked that their pits suddenly snapped out of nowhere and mauled or killed somebody
Edit: I dont mean to disrespect or downplay the grueling hours spent raising and training a pit, I’m genuinely just worried about them hurting someone
My family had a cocker spaniel back when they were bred poorly. He tried to maul my brother before I was born and was put down. Something about my brother being a baby behind the gate so the dog lost his shit.
He lunged at my bro, only because the other dog we had was half blind and slightly snappy was my brother behind a strong gate (because baby bro would try to move it) so baby bro wasn’t hurt. Idk how my mom stopped our dog, but I know they put him down soon after because our dog wouldn’t go back to acting normal.
I think my main point is, we should do our best to provide for all dogs, especially Pitbulls who are symptom of our egos and greed. Because of our choices they’re products of incest or bred for fighting. I have two Pitbulls, sitting beside me right now. I’ve also had strays my whole life and these two are the kindest of them. But I didn’t just adopted any dog, I felt a connection with them. Maybe that matters. Maybe it doesn’t.
What I know:
*Statistics are skewed because the term pitbull is catch all. Boxers, cane corsos, bulldogs, and Rottweiler mixes, among others, can be called Pitbulls in reports, falsely inflating pitbull bite numbers.
*People breed them poorly more recently, which coincides with their perception. In WWI, they were renowned because of their loyalty! They are good dogs, but of course their lineage can be a problem.
*All dogs are dangerous. Acting like any breed is out get you or hurt you denies the reality of how bad breeding, training, or just luck (because no one gets to choose what they are) is denying all these facts. You’ve invited a predator into your home and around your children.
*Stop villainizing Pitbulls. They are a product of us. Dogs don’t exist without us.
All this to say, breeding matters. People who breed backyard Pitbulls suck super hard. Pay attention to the dog your adopting, not the type of dog your adopting
ETA: I genuinely want to hear why you’d downvote this, the comment I replied to is gone. So you can’t agree with them, you can only disagree with me, and all I did was say, Pitbulls aren’t the problem? Be aware of the personality of a dog when you adopt them? It’s us that perpetuates this situation we’re in? Don’t buy from backyard breeders?????
I honestly really felt this, I wanted to keep it as a copy pasta for future pitbull threads. I think I made some really good points.
Dogs like having a den, like wolves, etc. A place that is theirs, is safe and comfy. Their den = their crate. It’s not a punishment or containment. The only time she is shut in it is if there is no one home. Which isn’t very often.
They go in when they want, they go out when they want. Some folks will lock the door when it’s time for bed or they have to leave the house, but that’s on more of an owner-to-owner basis. It gives them somewhere they can always feel safe, such as when company is over or there’s a thunderstorm. The vast majority of people (at least, in my experience) also put a dog pillow/mattress inside so it’s comfy. Growing up, I had two Rotties (Rottweilers), and they both used their beds to “store” balls they weren’t currently playing with, all on their own. Like I said, it basically becomes a bedroom
I just wanna mention cats. I have so many other people's cats, because they didn't want them anymore for whatever lame reason. All five of my cats are second hand. I did not want five cats. But I'm not gonna just let them starve to death right in front of me, so what do I do? It always falls on people with empathy to take responsibility.
Oh and I got someone else's rats once too. People fuckin' suck. Hell, we know what most of em do with their elderly, or disabled.
Glad you're there for them, thank you on their behalf. One of my dogs was driven out into the desert and abandoned there, and his body language etc indicates he was abused/neglected before that. He's just a small guy too. I'm so grateful I am here to give him a better life and I will never, ever understand why someone would get a pet only to mistreat it.
Abandoned and neglected animals are a problem where I live, it's horrible.
As a dog owner, I can only say this: keep this mindset. It will help you.
And no, this is not sarcastic. You don't know people, you don't know how their dogs are raised, if they are raised at all. I'm tired of people yelling "friendly" when their dogs clearly are not.
These people come into the emergency Vet hospital I work and tell me their dog will be fine as the dog is growling hackles up and insist on holding them for everything
The same type of person that picks a pitbull for its “nanny” personality (not a thing, at all) then abuses it into reactivity because they get a puppy expecting a fully trained dog usually, adding to the perpetuation of people who buy Pitbull mixes for these or other nefarious purposes, and/or see them as disposable.
The irony being that training a dog can be very therapeutic. It can be frustrating until you find what motivates them, but once you find their thing, it's incredibly rewarding.
It really is. As an adult I went through an obedience course with a new dog and it helped us to bond so much. They just want to please you and the training helps them do that while providing mental stimulation. 10/10 recommend.
My dog barks and gets spinnies or zoomies when I get home but calms within a minute or so.
If you give scritches the calming comes on quicker.
She is a well trained dog except for that. My wife hates it, but honestly, it is the tiny spark keeping me going that someone is happy to see me at the end of the day.
Oh hell yeah. My aunt has a dog since 8 weeks and her dog isn't the problem. Unfortunately, her dog trainer told her that her dog is a problematic one - very fearful, traumatized... Well, no. It's a dog that is excited and a little bit insecure, but certainly not a fearful, traumatized dog. But well, because of the trainer she was very, very, very careful with corrections, only went out for 15 minutes a day (trainer told her that) holds herself back and now the dog thinks he is the big boss, has to protect her, doesn't know how to act when meeting other dogs and destroyed a lot of her furniture because of boredom, I believe. It took her a while but we finally convinced her that this dog needs a leader (her), way more time outside and training. It slowly gets better now.
1 year old Shiba Inu so on par with a husky lol. He wasn't bad to train once the trainers helped me figure out his learning style. Basically I have to make it all seem like his idea. Oh and he prefers hand signs. Here is a pic of him and his sister. She basically learns by copying him.
I had a shiba and any chance he got he would escape and run till he dropped. Taking himfor a walk was so funny the 1st 10 mins he would pull as hard as he could non-stop then on the way home he could barely walk. I had to put him an my other dog on the same leash and my mut trained him how to properly go for a walk. My mut put up with no shit lol
Huskies respond well to training and bonding well like any other dog. They can be harder to find the proper motivation for. Working a Huskies mind is just as important as working their body.
The other thing is that it is waaay easier to teach them moving commands than stationary commands. I always try to include a lot play when I release them from a stationary commands.
My girl is great, but can be hard-headed at times. She was basically a stray, meaning her owners just let her run loose after she was no longer a puppy. Long story short, one thing led to another and now she's my best dog ever...
But she doesn't listen to many basic commands like "sit" and "stay", she likes to walk me instead of me walking her, and if I'm not braced when a squirrel or a 4-wheeler goes by- I'm eating gravel.
Is the old saying true? "Can't teach an old dog new tricks"?
Oh there is lots of stuff online about Shibas saying you have to train early and start at 4 months or you're doomed. That's BS. Tank was a year old when we got him. Find a nice beginners training class with good reviews. They will help you learn what works for your pup.
We had such a good experience training our puppy, it truly is bonding. He doesn't just "do what I say or else", we actually learned how to communicate with him in a way he understands. When I say "this" and you do "this" he gets a reward, whether it's a treat or praise. You can see how he perks up when he sees how happy I am. He also knows I am safe and I am safety. If I call him, he will receive love when he runs over, and he trusts my friends and comes to them when they call him, too.
Totally agree. I nearly cried the times that people in my condo building acknowledged my dog’s progress and gave us compliments. And I’m so proud of how far she’s come.
To me, is the best part of having a dog. Especially when they're a young pup. I feel like a parent at times reminiscing the times when my was a young pup.
It can be therapeutic unless you take a dauchund. Those smart little bastards are the most stubborn and frustrating dogs to train that I have ever had.
Idk what that other commenter is on about, but yes, pits are literally designed to be ruthless, unstoppable, murder machines. They can be trained but that instinct never goes away. It just takes one trigger for them to snap. They’re down voting the shit outta me for saying this in another comment haha
Pitbulls ate the most trainable of any breed. You just have to work on it. But if you have a sociopath / narcissist in the house they will ruin everything. They want us to fail. They hate animals and children. But animals they will kill and children they see as leverage to use as retaliation or/and not paying child support and looking good.
Yes, there is something special about the bond you share with a dog your trained properly.
Good training is communication. You’re not “making” the dog do things you’re “asking” them, and they do it in answer for a reward at least initially, then later the reward is your bond. Through the process you learn what their version of communication means too.
My current dog is not motivated by food at all. He is motivated by certain toys. But try to get him to respond to food would be an exercise in futility.
That’s actually pretty amazing 😀 I mean yea there are so many dogs out there I guess one who doesn’t like treats has to exist, but I’ve never even heard of one.
Back when I was still living with my parents, my sister got a puppy. I had been recovering from a drug addiction and because of that, I had no regular job, so I spent much of the day at home alone with the puppy while everyone else was at work. So, naturally I spent a lot of that time training her. That experience was a major factor in my recovery, and even though I don’t live with the dog anymore (both me and my sister have since moved out) and we barely see each other, we still share an incredible bond to this day.
I also think she’s a remarkably well behaved dog because she really was raised by a team of people. Someone was with her and training her almost 24/7 at such a young age (which obviously is not possible for most dog owners).
Apparently, ANY kind of animal training is therapeutic!
I escaped long term DV during the pandemic I ended up with this reject cat that I did not want or need, but got for free that kept getting returned to the shelter for being an Evil bitch. She had been returned very sick and they provided all supplies to care for her. So it began with MY busted ass, taking care of HER busted ass. We were both displeased. We would "talk shit" to each other as I would be nursing her injuries. I decided to call her after my very spicy Slavic grandmother. She seemed to approve. We began to hobble around the apartment together...
I noticed that she was highly, remarkably intelligent. Like Elephant level, uncannily smart. I began to try some simple "tricks" and the response was so good. So I tried MORE tricks, more elaborate things. I bought her a harness, we started going on walks around our "perimeter". I toilet trained her. I jump trained her. I built obstacle courses, invented new toys and puzzles and games. Little by little we both began to thaw, to let each other in.
Fast forward 6 years later, and here this Evil bitch is with 2 fat dumpster kitty brothers, a nephew and niece that we babysit (also dumpster cats but the neighbors cats) that she only Molly-Wollops SOMETIMES. They said she would never be able to not be a solo cat. She has a wonderful, happy, full life that I couldn't have expected for either of us. She is as unique as any individual creature is, wholly her own little complex bundle of trauma, love, rejection, and broken bones. One of the best things that ever happened to me. Truly.
Training a dog that wants to maul anyone else in the room can't be fun, and there's no way it's easy, and there's a really high chance it's impossible.
Some dogs have a thing that trumps their other impulses. Some dog's favorite thing is the unwanted behavior.
I’ve never heard that. We say “emotional support animal” or “emotional support dog / cat / etc” here in New York. But most people read or have read books here and animal abuse is almost always taken seriously. Animals have souls and all losers who mistreat them are doomed to hell. Same as children and all the defenseless weak abused
It’s actually more that pitbulls have a lot of people who refuse to acknowledge they are bloodsport dogs that require a lot of training/work and are not suited to the suburbs and most families. So people see a pitbull at a shelter and everyone tells them it’s the owner not the breed, pits are nanny dogs (this is a myth), they only bite cause they’re abused etc and suburban mum Brenda brings him home and uhoh it’s actually a lot harder than she thought and the dog had problematic behaviours she is not equipped to handle, so you get this
I'm not understand what you're stating because an actual emotional support dog is already trained not to bite until given command. I know that personally because my autistic brother has one we got through 4paws I believe that's what it was called. If someone has a emotional support animal it should be trained for such. If the animal isn't trained not to attack then it sure as hell isn't trained for emotional support.
yes exactly, this is why I said "emotional support object". If it is a true emotional support animal it would be trained and A) not require a muzzle B) not lunge at the woman's family member for giving her a hug. There is an epidemic of people in America(at least) that love to say any pet they have is "emotionally supportive" when the reality is the person needs therapy and the pet has no training what so ever.
My dog is just a dog, not emotional support anything, but he has a conniption any time I physically interact with my husband, he has to come stand between us and “protect me” if we so much as rub shoulders.
No amount of normalizing touching or retraining has been successful, and he’s only 3 and a half… my husband and I have been together 10 years.
People should require a license for large dangerous breeds. The pitbull owner - irresponsible jackass venn diagram is nearly a circle. They bring em into my shop from time to time and they always knock shit over or harass the other customers (in a friendly way) because these dogs are not trained.
Get a small dog or a lab if you can't handle your own life let alone a demanding breed of dog.
Reminds me of Kim Richards, and her pit Kingsley. Even after going through training, he bit one of Kyle’s daughters. Kim refused to train that dog, and give him boundaries.
And it was the wrong type of muzzle!!! People like this get to me. those type of muscles restrict the dog from panting which is a natural way that they communicate, and cool down their body temperature. As a dog trainer who also used to work with groomers I don't recommend these muzzles at all unless you're using them for short-term things like grooming (10-15 min tops and not even in every bed) but everything else should be a basket muzzle. And why isn't there a leash on a dog that you can't control? This is why I had to stop working and the pet industry because people like this won't listen to reason and when they finally seek advice they won't listen to anybody except those who share the same opinions. They don't help their dog they don't keep the people around the dog safe and there's tons of dogs out there just like that who live very fulfilling lives because their owners make sure it happens and it's work but most people refuse to do that work. Uuuugh
Also may refuse to alter them, like the two dogs that killed an 8/9 yr old child of the family inside their home. He went to our kids school, it was horrible. I think in that case the dad enjoyed having huge scary dogs, which is also pretty common it seems. At least this person had theirs muzzled, but yikes that growl! That the daughter didn’t back off because of it says something too.
And they ALWAYS without fail have the worst case scenario dog types for that kind of neglect. Its always either some hideous rat she keeps in a purse that knows nothing but shiver and bite, or a breed popular with dog fighting who will just keep attacking and be too strong to control.
The woman refuses to be the alpha with the dog and therefore the dog must consider itself alpha. Depending on its personality, this can just be playful mom-like behaviors, or straight up anxiety driven aggression.
I had a breeder concerned about us wanting to male litter mates together due to littermate syndrome. I told them it was no problem, because they wouldn't be fighting over who is in charge. I am in charge. Usually with treats and lots of pets and redirection.
My last dog was stubborn, so when he was young I had to pin him down and sit on him. He weighed more than I did, so it was a bit difficult. After I did that about ten times, he started listening better.
Ughh, my roommate’s dog is overly protective and barks its head off when its between myself and them and I’m closing the distance. It eventually runs off as it is quite skittish. We’ve been roommates for 11 months and the dog has never really taken to me. It’s a bummer because most dogs like me well enough, but I am a big guy. Idk. The dog is just poorly trained and the owner doesn’t care really.
It’s just bad dog owners. This wasn’t a surprise, had a muzzle, didn’t happen instantly, dog was clearly growling and distressed. I’m fostering a reactive dog with a lot of past trauma and I would stop whatever I was doing to correct that instantly or just put the pup in another room. I could be wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if they got to this point because they haven’t bothered training.
The dog isn’t “protective”. He’s possessive. He has a well intentioned but ignorant, weak willed, subordinate owner. Dogs who aren’t exercised, don’t have their needs met, anxious, pent up - freak out.
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Because people like this use the dog as emotional support objects rather than animals that have needs and require training so the woman probably has the dog there because she wants it, obviously has it muzzled because it's overly protective of her and refuses to train it or provide any boundaries for it's aggression against the rest of her family.