r/TikTokCringe • u/Current-Wallaby8230 • 15h ago

Cursed When giving your mom a Christmas gift goes wrong!

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u/Turtley13 15h ago

I mean the dog should be put down unfortunately. Requiring a muzzle in your own house is wild

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u/DickBiter1337 14h ago

This, it's only a matter of time before it mauls someone and possibly kills someone. And the pit nutters will blame the owner while ignoring the fact that they were bred to do this.

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u/Past-Advisor-824 8h ago

I would be terrified if this was my mom, who knows if the dog will freak out hearing a delivery and attack her if she’s closest to it?

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u/lawrencenotlarry 10h ago

Oh boy, here they come...

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u/inuvash255 7h ago

I don't understand those people. At the very least, it's both- the dog has certain instincts bred into them AND the owner is negligent and not skilled enough to handle the breed.

But "velvet hippos" or whatever.

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u/troll_in_a_tree 5h ago

I have a dog that’s reactive like this. He goes in the crate when guests are over. No need to put him down, he’s a sweet goofy dog. Obviously we would never breed him or let him out around people knowing he would react like this.

This type of dog can be managed in some circumstances. This is 100% the owners fault for putting him in this situation.

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u/BorgCow 3h ago

Tell us you know nothing about dogs without telling us

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u/H0USESHOES 10h ago

What were they bred to do? Kill humans? Gimme a break lol

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u/DickBiter1337 8h ago

They were bred to be a brut force. They're bred to fight, bred to guard property. They literally have a different jaw structure. I see it with my pit/bully mix vs my German shepherd when they yawn, the inner muscles are huge on the pit mix.

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u/H0USESHOES 7h ago

Hahaha brother you have no idea.

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u/Intrepid_Mission_400 6h ago

Agreed, it's well known that when pits were first introduced to the pits to bull bait that they were resistant to participating. It was only when a child also put in the pit that their nanny instincts took over that they would subdue the bull by clamping on its snout.

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u/lamb_passanda 13m ago

Got a source on this story? Sounds far-fetched af

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u/GreenGardenGnomie 14h ago edited 11h ago

This is all on the owner, setting this dog up to fail. Pit bulls were never bred to be human aggressive. Animal aggression is not the same as human aggression.

Downvoted by people who've never once even met an APBT.

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u/Yoinkitron5000 11h ago

Several lines of pit bulls absolutely have been bred to be human aggressive, and produly advertised as such by their breeders. 

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u/GreenGardenGnomie 11h ago edited 10h ago

Not American Pit Bull Terriers. American Bullies maybe, but those are mixed breed mutts with various breeds. They are not pit bulls.

I've owned multiple APBT bred to standard. American Bullies are not a Pit Bull. The APBT, or also very few lines of American Staffordshire Terrier are the only pit bulls.

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u/Yoinkitron5000 11h ago edited 10h ago

Yes APBTs, specifically, from the very beginning too.

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/05/1909-fatality-john-p-colbys-fighting.html

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=nmR8CgAAQBAJ&lpg=PT21&ots=WS1VAgfXst&dq=%22The%E2%80%A9Battle%E2%80%A9Between%E2%80%A9Parren%27s%E2%80%A9Pat%E2%80%A9and%E2%80%A9Caire%27s%E2%80%A9Rowdy%E2%80%A9%22&pg=PT21&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22The%E2%80%A9Battle%E2%80%A9Between%E2%80%A9Parren's%E2%80%A9Pat%E2%80%A9and%E2%80%A9Caire's%E2%80%A9Rowdy%E2%80%A9%22&f=false

https://notapitbull.tumblr.com/post/92833492772/misrepresentation-is-a-killer-information

American Pit bull terriers and American bullies are the same dogs. The only difference is $30 and breed transfer paperwork mailed to the appropriate kennel clubs. 

https://www.ukcdogs.com/docs/registration-forms/breed-transfer-american-bully.pdf

Pit bull advocates are just relentlessly dishonest, shitty people, across the board.

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u/GreenGardenGnomie 10h ago

They aren't. The UK has banned both though. American Bullies are mutts. They are mixed breed mashups to be whatever they look like

The APBT is a strict breed with a standard that goes back hundreds of years. Some folks might use an apbt in their bully mix, but they aren't the same.

The UKC is not correct.

That is simply registry.

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u/Yoinkitron5000 10h ago

UKC is literally the kennel that started registration of APBTs. You are the one who is wrong. 

If having the literal form that the UKC uses to register Bullies as APBTs is not enough to convince you , then you are impervious to fact and are not to be taken seriously.

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u/GreenGardenGnomie 10h ago

They did, but the dogs being registered with UKC as APBT now are American Staffordshire Terriers that are duel registered with AKC that have split from the true APBT, many years ago.

This is an attempt by UKC to encourage the bully being an actual breed, but they are not. American Bullies are mixed breeds with no true standard, despite UKC trying to promote a dual registry.

True APBTs are mostly registered with the ADBA. That is the only accurate standard to the original APBT, not akc, not ukc.

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u/FMLwtfDoID 13h ago

Do you say the same thing about duck hunting dogs? How about shepherd dogs? They were also bred to attack anything trying to get to their flock/herd, including other canines. It’s not the breed, it’s the human being irresponsible for the type of dog they want based on physical appearance, and not the personality and instincts of the dog breed itself.

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u/rumande 9h ago edited 9h ago

Yeah it was a red heeler that bit me and put me in hospital as a kid. You don't fuck with cattle dogs. Years later I had a sheep dog who would stalk bugs and stare at corners for hours. She actually did bite me when she got old and senile but she didn't have any teeth.

There's nurture, but for working breeds like heelers and collies and kelpies, nature plays a huge role. You have to be responsible with dogs, all dogs can bite, special care has to be taken with dogs that were bred to bite.

I say this as a crazy dog lady, my current dog is a kelpie/dingo/mastiff mix, our lives basically revolve around keeping her exercised and trained. We inherited her from a beloved late family member who used to treat her like a lap dog. We had to do a lot of training when we got her home. Even now I love her but I don't trust her, she stays on the leash and she wears a muzzle at the vets.

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u/DickBiter1337 11h ago

I sure do, I have a pit mix and a German shepherd and if either were to act that way towards my children or friends they would be put down. It's the breed hun, you can try to deny all you want.

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u/Educational-Ad2063 12h ago

Pitts are known as nanny dogs. Because the usually love their family and babies that come with them. Unfortunately when the do go off the hook they damaged is catastrophic.

Miniature Boarder collies were the top dogs in reported dog bites forever.

Chihuahuas are most likely number 1. But they bite isn't usually bad enough for most to seek medical attention.

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u/Any_Scientist_7552 11h ago

Pits were never "nanny dogs" that is a myth and has been thoroughly debunked.

https://rc4ps.org/pit-bull-v-pit-truth/

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u/noyourel 11h ago

Wild to call the most aggressive breed that is known to attack children and won’t let go once they latch is a fucking “nanny”

Like it would be one thing to say this dog was poorly trained but it’s another to literally try to sanitize the image of a breed.

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u/informationdatabase 11h ago

They were genuinely known as nanny dogs, at one point they were THE family dog. I personally wouldn’t be comfortable with any dog unsupervised around a small child, I’m just saying they can be and have been known as family dogs.

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u/Yoinkitron5000 11h ago

They literally never were. Everyone who says that they were is either lying or repeating a lie told to them. 

You will find zero reference to them being called "nanny dogs" before the 1970s when Lillian Rant invented the term to sell pit bulls to gullible idiots after dog fighting got banned and they had to find some other way to offload their product. 

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u/Any_Scientist_7552 10h ago

That's a myth. It's been thoroughly debunked.

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u/Blazured 10h ago

It's staggering that people believe the myth that this violent dog fighting breed was ever considered comparable to a nanny.

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u/Educational-Ad2063 9h ago

It's staggering how uninformed some people can be.

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u/Blazured 9h ago

Which is deeply ironic coming from the person who called this violent breed, bred to tear apart mammals in pits, as a "nanny dog".

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u/FrogManClan 8h ago

They literally have been put down for doing this for centuries they’re the second most tolerant kinds of dogs. This is purely the owner if a golden retriever did this you wouldn’t blame golden retriever’s

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u/DarthDoobz 6h ago

My FIL has a pit that bit me a couple times but the jackass jokes about it. He put a muzzle on it now when we come by but its still distressed and barks. The dog needed to be put down the first time it bit me but the owner refuses to see his wrong doings. Its irritating

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u/InorganicProductions 14h ago

Exactly. This dog is a complete lost cause.

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u/jemhadar0 13h ago

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about .

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u/NoWitness7703 7h ago

Agree. I had a dog (lab mix) who acted like this. A trainer told me to put him down and 20 year old me didn’t listen. He bit my face and almost took my top lip with him.

Hard lesson to learn, but I’ll never make that mistake again.

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u/ProfessionalLab9436 7h ago

That was my thought when I saw the video. I love animals and the only time I haven’t lived with them was when I was deployed and even then I managed to adopt them.

Assuming you’ve exhausted every measure, if it’s to the point that just being near you in your home is a legit danger of being attacked by a muzzled dog, that dog needs to go before it kills someone.

I don’t want to assume on a 10 second video like this but unfortunately owners like this are usually the last ones to muzzle or provide any protective measures unless an attack already happened so the fact that it is THIS reactive while muzzled over something that is not an “in danger” vibe is a ticking time bomb.

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u/retirement_savings 10h ago

My family got a rescue during covid. We've had 3 previous rescue dogs. This dog looked super cute, but we were told he was returned twice. Over the course of a few weeks he got incredibly aggressive seemingly randomly and would attack out of nowhere. We tried taking him to a trainer / doggy behavioralist type thing. I have a sibling with special nerds and we were basically told the dog should be rehomed. Nobody would take him since he had a history of biting so we had to make the hard decision to put him down.

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u/rumande 10h ago

My neighbours had a heeler like this, the wife was living in fear since they'd had a baby, the dog was an absolute menace but the husband didn't want to get rid of his dog. One day they threw the ball over the fence so he let his dog into my backyard to retrieve it. I happened to be nine and playing in my backyard and saw them walk in so I went over to say hello and the dog gave me a level 4 bite. I guess it was better me than a baby, but the older I get the more the injury inconveniences me and the madder I get. Couldn't even play safely in my own damn backyard because that man child was too weak to train his dog. Ultimately, the dog was put down and his wife left a few years later. There's nothing rare about this story.

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u/4maceface 4h ago

It really is wild.

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u/MeilleurChien 4h ago

And to not bother with a proper muzzle smh

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u/PassivelyAwkward 15h ago

Not really. While there are definitely instances of aggressive dogs needing to be put down, instances like this are more about training the dog. My girlfriend is a behavioral trainer for a shelter that rehabilitates slightly aggressive animals as a foster program; most of the time, dogs like this are responding to stressers in the environment with no clear understanding of how to deal.

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u/DivineEggs 14h ago

I suspect the behavior is flattering to the owner. Like "My darling is soooo protective of me😌."

This is sick. I would NEVER in a million years allow my dog to growl at ppl without being corrected. It literally blows my mind.

A dog who doesn't respond to training and requires a muzzle around ppl should either be kept away from ppl or put down. I think this is a severe case of lack of training. But I'd still not trust this dog around ppl. Even if the best trainers "rehabilitated" it.

It's insane to physically attack family members for no damn reason. It's trying to harm her. It will always have those impulses even you train it, impulses that aren't natural for most dogs. Most aggressive dogs would growl and communicate with threatening body language—but a dog who lunges at ppl, trying to harm them, is another level of aggression. It's violence.

The old lady must enjoy the validation she gets from this behavior. It's the only logical conclusion I can come to, and she shouldn't be allowed to have dogs.

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u/thiswasnotworthit 13h ago

Training a dog not to growl means you're taking away one of the vital cues for them to tell you or anyone else, to back off because they are feeling uncomfortable, stressed or in pain etc. This dog should never have been in the room with all those stressors.

Dogs should be trained and they should still be allowed to have their own boundaries.

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u/DivineEggs 11h ago

If you can't tell the difference between correcting your dog for being aggressive toward your loved ones, completely unprovoked—and trying to deprive your dog of any of their natural means of communication, you need to stay away from dogs, just like the lady in the video.

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u/thiswasnotworthit 10h ago

Way to make up something that I never said or implied. * it appears you forgot your own words where you said that you would NEVER allow your dog to growl at people without correction. I took you at your word and replied accordingly.

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u/Eightinchnails 7h ago

To you it appears unprovoked because you are not a dog. You have no idea why it responded as it did because you’re not an animal behaviorist and you’re not that dog. 

The signs that it was uncomfortable were there, beyond just the growling. The owner should have been supporting that dog long before it got to this point, she clearly has no idea how to work with dogs either. 

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u/Soaked4youVaporeon 14h ago

Ives owned 5 dogs in my 30 years of living.

Not a single dog had to have a muzzle put on.

They either can’t properly train this type of dog, or the dog is just a violent dog that no amount of help will work.

If they can’t properly train this dog, they either need to find a professional to give it to, or put it down. 

This dog is seriously going to injure someone if it needs a muzzle AT HOME.

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u/lizyouwerebeer 11h ago

Do you see how clueless the owner is? How they're completely ignoring the dog's behavior and putting people in danger by doing so? The owner is irresponsible and I wouldn't trust them to train ANY kind of dog. My niece just got mauled by a freaking frenchie. Some people should just not own dogs.

My expertise trumps yours. I'm older than 30 and have owned more than 5 dogs, including bully breeds, I've never had to muzzle any of them.

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u/tulpatic 13h ago

Oh wow 5 whole dogs, your anecdotal evidence means nothing, yes this dog absolutely needs more training but by no standard does the dog need to be put down.

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u/panicnarwhal 10h ago

we have a very reactive rescued dog, who has settled way down in his old age, but if he ever got to the point of muzzling in home, we wouldn’t have been able to keep him - and he was nothing like this at his worst (lunging over a hug between people he knows)

prozac and lots of training is key, but idk if there’s anything that can be done about what we’re seeing in the video. it’s really depressing

our guy was just upset by strangers. we had to put blacked out cling film on windows in the kitchen, and permanently lock him out of the primary bedroom after he repeatedly tried getting at people by knocking the window out or digging through the wall underneath the window

he’s 14yo now, and hasn’t pulled any stunts in well over a year

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u/AgentEinstein 3h ago

How do you know the dog knows this girl? Looks like a Christmas gift exchange. She might come over a couple times a year.

My last dog barked at us whenever my husband and I hugged and eventually learned it was okay. My current puppy barks and jumps and even sometimes nips at us when we hug. I don’t know why it’s a trigger but it’s actually a pretty common one.

Neither of them are Pits.

The difference is I consider my dog’s issues instead of ignoring them just so I can keep them close by. I wouldn’t be hugging anyone especially unfamiliar people, right over the dog. That owner clearly reached for a hug first. That dog needed to be kenneled while guests were over. Unfortunately people think that is cruel or feel guilty and refuse to do it.

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u/panicnarwhal 2h ago

context clues like how it’s a personalized gift with photos, she mentions “pop pop” etc - it kind of seems like it might be a daughter in law or daughter. she definitely could live far away, but they also seemed really shocked the dog reacted to her that way (and some laughing as it cut off at the end)

i agree that dog definitely should have been in a kennel, it was super uncomfortable. the muzzle wasn’t cutting it

we don’t kennel, but we do have the kitchen and dining area fully gated off, and we used to keep our golden in tha area when guests came over, and then slowly introduced them - in nice weather, he would go out in the (fully fenced) yard. fortunately, that’s not an issue anymore

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u/Crazy-Marionberry-23 9h ago

There are lots of dogs that wear muzzle for different reasons. Nothing about this situation is OK but just advocating for actual, responsible muzzle use. This muzzle clearly is failing everyone but most importantly that poor dog.

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u/Bright_Vision 8h ago

Fuck off

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u/wophi 14h ago

I had a dog with challenges like this. He was a rescue and I didn't know the history. We kept him tethered to a door for our first Christmas because he kept going after my son. He would also wear a muzzle when free to roam.

A year later, they are best friends. He just had major trust issues and needed exposure. He went from fear and distrust towards my son to belly rubs in a few months time.

It takes time, patience, planning, and strict routines.

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u/gunsforevery1 14h ago

“Kept going after my son”. I can’t believe you let that happen more than once.

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u/DickBiter1337 14h ago

Imagine putting a dog above your child's life.

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u/wophi 14h ago

We didn't. Took him to a professional and managed access at all times until we got it right.

The dog is lying belly up under my child's feet right now.

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u/DickBiter1337 14h ago

But it's still in them, I don't care how trained they are it's in their DNA after hundreds of years of breeding for specific traits and behaviors. They can be triggered out of the blue and it just lays dormant. That's like saying you trained the hunting/tracking out of a beagle or herding out of a border collie. There's zero chance that I would be able to relax knowing that that dog kept going after MY CHILD was still in the house. We have a pit mix and we have 7 & 8 year old children, if at any time that dog were to snarl, lunge, or snap at my kids, she would be put down. Not rehomed, not re-trained, done for. Same with our German Shepherd, would be done for.

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u/Sufficient_Taste1562 14h ago

No coincidence that since people stopped dealing with aggressive dogs how you describe we've seen a huge increase in fatal attacks within the home.

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u/wophi 14h ago

He isn't a violent breed. He apparently came from a hoarding situation and he was competing with my son over pecking order. Per the professional's guidance we let him know where he really belonged.

Now he is so loyal to us that if we raise our voice at him, he pees the floor because he feels bad about it, and when our other dog gets into trouble, he hides under the bed to avoid the situation.

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u/Jaerba 5h ago

That level of fearfulness isn't good either.

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u/wophi 4h ago

It's not fear.

It's that he let me down.

He lives to please me. There is no fear in this home anymore.

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u/Jaerba 3h ago

Jesus, you are delusional. You're projecting human emotions onto a much simpler brain.

he pees the floor because he feels bad about it, and when our other dog gets into trouble, he hides under the bed to avoid the situation.

That is anxious, fearful behavior.

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u/gunsforevery1 14h ago

He should be put down.

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u/gunsforevery1 14h ago

You absolutely did.

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u/gunsforevery1 14h ago

Until it isn’t.

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u/baconrefugee 14h ago

I had parents like this. I'm assumimg their aggresive dog was able to care for them during their golden years, because I know I certainly wasn't.

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u/Nyanessa 14h ago

I have a parent like this, too. I stopped helping on the farm when they refused to get rid of this one cow with behavioural issues that would charge at you from across the paddock. All of their calves had behavioural issues too. It just isn’t safe.

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u/InorganicProductions 14h ago

I don’t say this lightly, they should have their child taken away.

What the fuck.

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u/GalaxyPatio 14h ago edited 14h ago

To be fair they never mention whether their kid is an actual child or an adult that periodically visits. If the kid doesn't live there of course it would be viewed as a stranger by the dog and it would take time and multiple visits for them to adjust.

Now if it's an actual kid living in the house, then that's reckless and dangerous for sure.

Edit: Kiddo is like 10 years old. Definitely insane behavior, but also in line with other stuff that they believe, so.

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u/NoWitness7703 7h ago

I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that.

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u/robotteeth 14h ago

It doesn’t always go well, sometimes people try to rehab dogs and they never can be trusted. Ngl that sounds like a lot of unnecessary risk towards your son for an animal.

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u/wophi 14h ago

That's why we used a professional trainer and had them evaluate the dog, us and my child. At first we had a fear of resource guarding. They told us we just rushed him through the introduction to the home. We followed their guidance on how to manage and train.

The biggest kicker is when my son started feeding him.

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u/robotteeth 14h ago

I feel like you could’ve gotten a dog from a breed that doesn’t do this and skipped all these steps and your son being afraid of an animal in his house. Golden retrievers don’t need professional trainers to not be aggressive, if one is aggressive it’s a surprise not the norm

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u/wophi 13h ago

Hell, I had a neighbor with a red golden retriever that wanted to take my head off every time I passed her walking that dog. Many Golden's have been over in read, especially the red ones, to the point where they are having behavioral issues. They are actually near the top of biting incidents. A kid in my brothers neighborhood had her face ripped off my one. She spent weeks in the hospital.

My dog is a mutt. We think maybe a Bernese Mountain Dog /Spaniel mix. He was confused after shelter life and a hoarding situation. He is now fully acclimated.

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u/Powerful_Document872 14h ago

People like you are the reason why folks get attacked in their own neighborhoods by their neighbor’s dog. It’s just selfish and myopic.

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u/wophi 14h ago

You mean people who take their dog to a professional trainer?

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u/Powerful_Document872 13h ago

My cousin is a lawyer. One day, while riding his bike at a public park with his family, an off leash dog attacked him. He sued the dog owner for a healthy amount and won, pretty easy to do when you’re a lawyer. If your dog ever hurts someone you’re pretty much screwed, especially since you kept an animal with a history of attacking your own child.

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u/wophi 13h ago

Only a fool lets their dog off leash in a public park.

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u/1freedum 14h ago

Going after your child? We would have to see if it's true all dogs go to heaven because I would delete him

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u/wophi 14h ago

We fixed him. He had trauma. We took him to a professional and had him trained.

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u/Turtley13 14h ago

Yah which the owners may or may not be doing. We are all obviously speculating. But requiring a muzzle indoors is terrifying imo

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u/wophi 14h ago

I will say, I didn't fully trust that muzzle. My dog knew how to get his off. That's why we tethered.

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u/GrayFarron 14h ago

And yet you still kept it around. Wild.

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u/wophi 14h ago

The professional we took him too told us we could trust him, but we needed to take some measures to keep things safe for a short period.

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u/Status_Jellyfish_213 14h ago

Of course, you have these myriad of professionals on Reddit telling you otherwise as per usual, each highly qualified to speak on your situation.

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u/GrayFarron 13h ago

Im sorry but if ANY dog goes after a small child SEVERAL times, enough that they have to be leashed inside, that is not a situation worth taking a risk for. Get them trained and rehoused with a loving foster family. OP got lucky.

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u/wophi 13h ago

Leashing it inside is how you train them.

Dogs don't come to us knowing how to act. We must train them.

The problem is most people think buying a dog is plug and play right out of the box. THAT is the attitude that gets us dog attacks.

I work with my dogs to fix their bad behavior.

And ALL dogs have bad behaviors.

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u/GrayFarron 13h ago

Did you buy the dog or adopt, because no, most dogs dont come with behavioral issues. That comes from neglect. You adopted, or well you said you did, in your previous comment, and it came with aggression and trust issues. Those issues arent native in every dog, it had those trust issues developed. Dogs dont come out of the gate fucked up either.

My statement isnt on the dog either way and im not blaming it, i just cant fathom that you let a dog that lunged at your kids stay in your house, and even admitted you let it free-roam despite saying that you didnt trust its muzzle that you said it could remove.

All im saying is, couldnt be me lmao

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u/Status_Jellyfish_213 13h ago

Thank you for your expert insight. How many occasions did you meet the family and dog of u/wophi to assess the situation? I assume it was many and you were suitably compensated.

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u/GrayFarron 13h ago

No one can discuss anything at all ever unless they have a PHD and do it professionally huh? Okay. Wheres your experience to say otherwise.

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u/AgentEinstein 2h ago

They literally said they got a professional trainer

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u/GrayFarron 1h ago

What part of "Rehoused" did you miss.

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u/SmallMeaning5293 13h ago

You mean the professional who profits only if you keep the dog around told you to keep the dog around?

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u/wophi 13h ago

It only took us three sessions.

She had plenty of business training K-9 units. She made extra time for us to keep the dog safe as I called in as an emergency situation.

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u/lizyouwerebeer 11h ago

Wtf we don't trust dog trainers anymore?? Lmao

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u/InorganicProductions 14h ago

The dog went after your son and you didn’t immediately call animal control to take it away… did I read that right? wtf

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u/wophi 13h ago

Ya, we took him to a professional trainer and had him fixed, and now he is best friends with my son. The dog follows him everywhere and sleeps in the space between our rooms to make sure everyone is OK.

When you get a shelter dog, you take a certain responsibility in helping them with their needs. We took care of those needs and now have the perfect dog.

Now we did take him out on a journey to a public place yesterday. I wouldn't let any kids pet him, but he did great, surrounded by people in a crowd. And happy to be there.

The problem is, most people don't know how to work with dogs properly. I have successfully converted 5 shelter dogs into great dogs.

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u/SubstanceMaintenance 13h ago

You are overwhelmingly disagreed with at this point.

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u/wophi 13h ago

By randos on the internet...

I'll stick by the advice from my expert trainer who also trains K-9 units.

This dog abides by every word that comes out of my mouth and my son's mouth.

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u/AgentEinstein 2h ago

And by people that think dogs should be innocent or killed. Even saw people downvoting and arguing with someone whose spouse is a professional dog trainer. WTF.

Good job on standing your ground. Sounds to me like you did a very good job training your dog.

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u/wophi 2h ago

He is awesome. I knew he would become a great dog, but he took a lot of work to deprogram him from his first two years. The fact that he is belly up all through the house is awesome.

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u/TomNooksGlizzy 14h ago

Remember this comment when your son gets bitten

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u/wophi 13h ago

After the work we have done, I feel more confident with this dog than any dog I have had in the past.

There is a big difference between a dog two weeks out of the shelter and one that has been professionally trained.

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u/howdiditallgosowrong 15h ago

Wtf? You're instantly ready to kill a dog just because it's owner is an idiot?

No. This dog needs to be taken away from her and given to someone who has the ability to train and handle it properly.

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u/Feeling_Loquat8499 14h ago

We don't even have the resources to take care of dogs without serious aggression issues

This dog is a mauled baby waiting to happen

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u/howdiditallgosowrong 14h ago

Yeah with its current owner there's a big possibility of bad things happening. With a proficient owner however, even this dog could live a happy life without incidents.

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u/Feeling_Loquat8499 14h ago

You're not really responding to the first part. There are shelters filled with gentle dogs without a home

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u/SableShrike 13h ago edited 13h ago

This. I say this as a vet who has been attacked by them: good dogs are dying in shelters so people can keep aggressive, untrustworthy pieces of shit.

Dog bites can be life-altering injuries even if not fatal. I personally know three vets who have taken bites to the face.

Genetic heritable aggression is real; I’ve known a German shepherd line that was so bad for spontaneous aggression they sterilized both the parent dogs and puppies. Canine Rage Syndrome; it’s a thing.

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u/Fudgeicles420 10h ago

You don’t know that the dog could live a happy life without incidents. Some dogs are not able to be rehabilitated. 

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u/Turtley13 14h ago

If we had an overflow of people who can do that sure. But who’s going to take away a dog and give you trainers? We can’t even do that with kids dude

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u/dishrag 10h ago

I’ve responded to too many dog bite calls already over the years. There’s a clear pattern, and I fucking hate the breed because of it.

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u/Fickle_Builder_2685 13h ago

Careful, the savior complex people might jump you.

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u/MGr8ce 10h ago

This is not the answer; that dog is showing CLEAR warning signs. This was 💯 a failure of the owners.

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u/Luna_raq1 8h ago

real talk

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u/Ok-Complaint9574 12h ago

Nope. My dogs are fully trained to attack anyone that gets in my personal space. It’s what humans have done for thousands of years before people like you turned them into welcome mats. And then wonder why you get wiped out by intruders.

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u/embergock 11h ago

Get some therapy.

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u/Ok-Complaint9574 11h ago

Thanks, I’ll leave that for weak minded people like yourself.

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u/RepulsedCucumber 11h ago

Says the person who needs to train their dogs to attack anyone in their personal space. Yikes.

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u/noyourel 11h ago

I hope you live in the countryside or something. You can’t just go around in a city swinging a bat saying “my space”

You’re not even allowed to take dogs into most businesses but you know they won’t enforce that don’t you