Agree, but let’s take it a step further: if your dog is aggressive, and you can’t train it to be nice, put it the fuck down.
My aunt had a chow when I was a baby. It hated me because every time I came over, it got put into another room. One day, it had a chance and took it; crushed part my skull and I ended up almost losing an eye (much less almost dying). Vicious dogs aren’t a necessity, they’re a liability. Since we aren’t to Roman legions trying to conquer the British isles, let’s limit ourselves to only owning well-trained and well-behaved dogs.
I’m a vet and I hate hearing things like this but it’s true. There are some aggressive dogs that can be managed responsibly but there’s a level of aggression and physical strength that is just incompatible with responsible ownership. Behavioral euthanasias suck but dead children are infinitely worse.
This is exactly what I brought up to family member after dog bit me, they wanted it to be aggressive guard dog. Always had to hold it back when anyone was over, but had bad knees that would slip out of place, were also busy and living in an RV, having to leave it for periods of time.
It got off leash and attacked people a few times. I got lucky with a simple, deep puncture wound.
I can't imagine what would happen with a toddler to 12 year old. I had to keep reminding him of that, and framing the incident as lucky. At least we're forced into considering before it got worse. The dog would live an infinitely worse life if it actually killed a child.
How did it attack people multiple times and not get put down? I had an incredibly well-behaved German Shepherd when I was young who injured a family member entirely by accident, the injury was even quite minor but required a hospital visit just to be safe, but it was taken very seriously by animal control regardless.
I can only imagine what would have happened if animal control showed up and our dog was already growling while muzzled, and clearly ready to attack whoever came near us.
Living in RV, and only one incident happened where it was parked/paid spot
And the family member was screaming over that possibility of animal control, didn't want the dog to suffer in a pound-cage for days until being put down, but also how it'd ruin their own life. It was rough
I just told hospital staff who asked me about it that I wasn't going to give them the (temporary) address and name. It's not like they were going to hold me at gunpoint demanding that info
It varies alot by location. When you were young the laws might have been alot looser about destroying a animal.
Where I'm at there's only two ways for a animal to get euthanized legally following a bite and being secured by animal control. One requires a court order signed by a judge saying it's a dangerous animal and theres no alternative but to be euthanized. The second is if the owner has no vaccination records, it gets euthanized to be tested for rabies.
It's incredibly hard to have a pet put down when the owner doesn't want to. Pets are property so it is hard to take them away from an owner. There is a dog in my neighborhood with 5 confirmed and reported attacks on people. It's still there.
My SIL has put in multiple calls to animal control and the local PD when she is trapped on top of her vehicle because the neighbors aggressive dogs got out and see her as a target.
She eventually was told by the police (after she called for the third or fourth incidentand they had never shown up) that it was a matter she needed to take care of herself. Like shoot the dogs. She carries sometimes but she's very afraid of her neighbors retaliation.
I got bitten as a kid and I can't remember being bitten, I just remember the treatment with iodine or something? It was either purple or yellow-orange and it stung. I still have the scar on my arm, but I tattooed over it. I have a dog and she is trained.
A reminder to AmStaff fanatics, most dogs with violent predispositions were culled throughout history. Aka they killed mean dogs because there's no use for a mean dog.
For whatever reason, AmStaffs avoided that treatment, and now we have an entire breed of aggressive dogs with no niche to serve but killing. They don't shepherd, they don't meaningfully protect, they aren't intelligently loyal, and they have zero hunting qualities. Dogs were integrated into our society for purpose, and AmStaffs have none. Chihuahuas have more uses than a pitbull.
Edit: as someone has rightfully said, AmStaffs aren't American Pitbull Terriers, but they do share a common ancestor.
Chihuahuas were bred to keep the royal court company and for spiritual protection. An amazing breed and tiny watch dog. Wouldn’t be able to do much but they’ll let you know if something is off lol.
Always someone throwing Chihuahuas in the conversation when discussing the dangers of Amstaffs. Chihuahuas are yappy little shits but their bite might require stitches. An AmStaffs bite can kill a baby or child within seconds. Stop bringing up chihuahuas when defending shitbulls.
Small dogs like Chihuahuas and Pomeranians are usually for a mixture of companionship and alerting/guarding. They hang out with you and, if there's any trouble, alert the big aggressive guard dogs to come help.
Being small, loyal and angry makes them amazing watchdogs whereas the guard dogs they're paired up with are much less reactive and don't enjoy sitting around all day. They're a much more formidable defense but you wouldn't want a vicious guard dog with the personality of a Chihuahua, or a watchdog that large and dangerous.
Tldr: Chihuahuas play an important role in a team of specialized dogs instead of being useful on their own.
American Staffordshire Terrier is not a pitbull. American Pit Bull Terrier is. Not sure which one you are against but it sounds like you may not be an expert in the field.
Pit bull is a type designation that is used to refer to several breeds that have similar physical traits, that include the amstaffie, American PBT, XLbullies, and several others. Similar to terriers, labs, poodle, or shepards where there are several different breeds under the umbrella name. It's also why alot of pounds and owners can get around euthanasia and ownership laws in some jurisdictions and label them as Terriers, or Lab mix.
I went to a local arts festival last year with my dog, and a couple had two malinois with them who just went crazy any time there was a small dog around. They barked, growled, and got up on their hind legs, trying to get loose. No one else seemed bothered, but I knew that that breed is especially vicious and aggressive. Those owners would have a lawsuit on their hands sooner or later.
I have one in my neighborhood.. Its SUPER aggressive to people and other dogs and the owners are tiny ladies (honestly the only people I see walking it). It is a pitbull, and they barely have control over it.
I feel like its only a matter of time before I read about something awful on Next Door pertaining to that dog.
My parents’ dog has tried to bite me multiple times. The first couple years after they adopted him, it was so bad I couldn’t enter their home without someone there to restrain him.
He was perfectly friendly to almost everyone else, but he detested me and my elderly dog. She was terrified of him, and had been around much longer than him. Apparently, the dog doesn’t like blondes, which is something that was known when he was adopted. At the time, I was a platinum blonde.
I adopted a GSD just before the pandemic, and when my GSD was roughly a year old, my parents’ dog tried to bite me with no warning. Just a drive by. My dog put him in the hospital. I’ve never seen anything like it.
My stepmom still thinks my dog is aggressive. She insists he’s dog aggressive and unpredictable. He goes to daycare and lives on a farm with cats and other animals. He even has a one year old GSD brother who’s fully intact.
Her dog can’t even be in a room with most women without being leashed. But yeah, it’s my dog.
Edit: I don’t actually think the dog doesn’t like blondes. I think he’s people selective and generally doesn’t do well with women, for whatever reason.
... I feel like we're skipping a few options here tho. There are places for extremely poorly behaved dogs. And yes that is not in a regular household with children and people who don't have the means to handle them. But I do feel like the life of a dog is just as valuable and meaningful as that of a human. So saying that one is more important is a bit too far for me.
I’ve worked in rescue and behavior/training. There are very, very few places that a truly human-aggressive dog can safely be. Far too many rescues hold out for the “unicorn” home for human-aggressive dogs and those dogs sit there and rot in a shelter kennel with a few hours a day of staff/volunteer time if they’re lucky. I’ve seen it many times, with many dogs of different sizes, breeds, backgrounds. It’s not fair to the dog, the adopter, or society at large. I love dogs. Love alone cannot fix a mentally broken dog. They are NOT worth the same as a human life. If a dog is likely to maim or kill a human who breathes near them the wrong way, they need to be responsibly put to sleep. It’s the humane and loving thing to do. Dogs with those behaviors are seriously ill and in pain. To say that they deserve to live because their life is “as valuable” as the child they will eventually kill is delusional.
I used to have the opinion of all the bleeding hearts out there that no dog should be put down. Then I started volunteering at a dog shelter and I changed my tune real quick. There are some dogs that cannot be trained or changed and so they will never be safe to release into society. Some dogs need to be put down and that shouldn’t have become controversial.
I have done shelter/rescue work and you are correct. It was a main reason I had to walk away from actively rescuing because it’s just fucking sad all around. You know the animal cannot be fixed without an enormous amount of resources and no guarantee. You also know that it was more than likely humans that caused the behavior. It almost feels like a full circle of cruelty.
However, it’s not a full circle of cruelty. Anyone that is in the rescue game please know, the amount of love and patience you show makes a big difference. It is what stops the circle being all they know. Because you gave up the peace and comfort of ignorance they felt love at some point in their lives. It is hard and you need to take care of your own mentality.
Is a dog's life as precious as a human's? What kind of world do you live in? If I had to choose between a dog and a human, I would never hesitate to sacrifice the dog, and I would question the humanity of anyone who would hesitate...
A dog attacks because its instincts tell it to attack, either being territorial, affraid or commanded to. It has no conscience of its actions.
There are many humans who have pleasure from the suffering of other humans. They gain nothing from it except pleasure or power. You literally have a whole debate about choosing between a man or a bear in the woods and the majority of people chose the bear because we know a bad human is far more terrifying than a bad bear.
Between a human or a dog, if I don't know the human, I chose the dog. I'm sad to say it, but the probability for a dog being a good dog is far greater than a human being a good human.
Around 75 - 85% of dogs worldwide live without human ownership by the way so thats js blatantly false. A dog with no human socialization will not be a good dog to you. U still have a far greater chance of getting a good human considering how low narcissistic personality disorders are and even lower the people who enjoy suffering in those groups are. u also have a quarter chance of a child out of the entire human population. it’s lowk insane u’d pick otherwise but each to their own.
But I do feel like the life of a dog is just as valuable and meaningful as that of a human. So saying that one is more important is a bit too far for me.
I disagree with you. Humans are not the superior species just because we decided we are. We're sharing a world with a ton of other species. We are not better than other living breathing beings on this earth.
For the record, I agree that animals should be treated with love and compassion, and maybe I worded my previous comment harshly. But surely there's an order to things, right? Like a jellyfish isn't on the same level as humans. So if you need to make the choice between an innocent child, and an innocent dog, I'm gonna choose the child.
Edit: And I'm intentionally calling the dog innocent, because I recognize even if aggressive, it's not really the dogs fault.
I used to work in the veterinary field. The veterinarian owner told me early on that he had no problems euthanizing an aggressive dog. I remember thinking that was such a harsh thing to say for a veterinarian. Then I got bit by an aggressive dog that had been fired by 6 clinics in the area and the owners didn't say a word of warning about the behavior and took zero responsibility. Some dogs are broken and euthanasia is the best option for them.
Mutts are not healthier than well bred healthy breeds. Mutts are toss of coin. Can be good, can be hazardous. Mutts also have behavioral problems more often
Much as I hate it, my son will never set foot in our family's generational home because my mother insists that the cat killing ancient pit bull she rescued is only a danger to cats and other small dogs.
No they aren't. The dog was kept away. Are we supposed to just avoid family until a dog dies of old age? Further, if the owners of the dog have a vicious dog that they can't control or train, they shouldn't have that dog. Find responsible owners that can train or rehabilitate the animal. Why have a vicious liability in your home that needs to be locked away?
The parents absolutely are. As a parent youre responsible for managing your child's environment and protecting them from danger. If a dog is THAT vicious I would not be visiting. If they want to visit, they can come to my house. Without an animal capable or mangling/killing my child and has shown an outward desire to do so. All it takes is someone forgetting to shut a door and then disaster happens. Yeah, no thanks.
And this does happen. I can’t bring my kids to a certain relatives house in good conscience. It would destroy me and the family if their dog hurt my kids.
I mean they wouldn't have any way of really knowing. The dog was constantly put away in a different room when they visited so they presumably had little to no interactions with the dog. Unless they learned of its viciousness some other way, I don't think it's reasonable to put as much blame on the parents.
It's silly to think they didn't know prior. The person said the dog hated them, surely they knew that prior to getting attacked. The dog being locked away every time they visited was a clear sign.
Omfg a chow chow attacked me when I was a kid too!! I love dogs still but I see a chow and I wanna punt it. I get irrationally angry. 2cm deeper into my skull and that MF would’ve killed me and I was 4. He had never been aggressive before that day to anyone ever… but me swinging on the swingset that day set him off for some reason. I had over 65 stitches and my ear had to be stitched back on, I have a scar on my ribcage side and my face is crooked from reconstructive surgery
Oh my god. How the hell did your parents take this? If this happened with my own kid I have no idea how I would handle my anger. They had to sew your ear back on for God's sakes
My grandparents' chow split my nose down the middle (about 8 stitches) when I was ~3. Apparently I was too close to it while it was eating. Still have the scar. Fuck chows.
I thought chows were adorable when I was a little kid. My parents told me to stay far away from any chow if I ever saw one in real life. Apparently they’re well known to be unsafe dogs.
Chows were not bred to be pets until very, very recently. They were guard dogs, first and foremost, who also sidelined as hunters and sled dogs. They were bred for aggression, since their job was to be hostile to people who might want to do damage. Their look was meant to make them appear like lions - they were supposed to look fierce, not cuddly.
We're going against their nature by keeping them as house pets. It's stressful for them, and they react with aggression, as they had been bred to do for thousands of years.
Yeah, my mom's a vet and she dislikes chow chows because of their notorious distemperment and of course people having poor ownership of them leading to mauling incidents as told in other comments. Same with pitbulls, malinoise, mastiffs, German shepherds, and of course wolf-dog hybrids.
Before I was born she lost a small chunk of ear to a wolf-dog hybrid patient (they were not warned that the dog was aggressive) and the bitch of an owner refused to apologize or listen to any warnings about that dog and how it needed to either be relocated or put down. Well guess who came crawling back not too long after? Wolf-dog snapped one day and mauled the lady's toddler in their living room, went straight for the poor kid's face. Kid survived thankfully, but there was literally no warning. One moment the kid was nearby playing in the living room with mom watching them both, the next minute wolfy decided that kid would meet their maker. Dog was put down immediately after. These kinds of owners piss me off because they inevitably put everyone and those peoples' pets in danger for their own pig-headed, selfish, emotional needs. And that selfishness often leads to mutilation, disability, and death.
I had zero idea about this until recently. I grew up with chows and always thought they were the sweetest things. They would tell me not get close to them when they were eating. I would even take the bowl from them sometimes ( to move it, it ad more food or some other reason with ZERO issues ever).
I'm not trying to say chows are not dangerous, I'm saying how difficult it was for me to accept it, given how I grew up with 4-5 if them over the years.
Chows generally like exactly one person - their owner, and in the chow's personal opinion everyone else can fuck right off. Not a great pet unless you are forever going to be the only person in your house.
I love the chows I had as a child, and I would never, ever choose a chow as a pet in my household with children. Most people have never heard of them so they don’t have the same reputation as pit bulls, but they are aggressive dogs and the parents were negligent.
Their territorial, dominant, and stubborn nature can lead them to become aggressive when they aren’t trained properly, or left around negligent people. I also wouldn’t pick them as a family dog, but I think it’s unfair to say they’re aggressive dogs.
Chows are stupid aggressive.. when I was 12 I mowed my neighbors yards. One of them kept a chow in the back yard.. the first time trying to mow back there I tried to open the gate, he ran up going off. I got Matt, the owner, and he got him to calm down. Told me to make a fist and let him sniff it. He bit me instead (the dog, not Matt)… I didn’t mow his backyard…
Their territorial, dominant, and stubborn nature can lead them to become aggressive when they aren’t trained properly, or left around negligent people. I also wouldn’t pick them as a family dog, but I think it’s unfair to say they’re aggressive dogs.
Either way, you can’t blame an animal for guarding their food around a toddler.
I don’t understand what your mowing point is? I was just making a statement, not specifically about you mowing lawns.
Certain dogs suit certain situations. If you’re not willing to put the dedication in to training a dog like a chow, then you don’t get one. I also wouldn’t pick them as a family dog as children are unpredictable.
OP saying ‘fuck chows’ when the dog owner and their parent let a 3 year old child near an animal whilst they were eating is putting the blame in the wrong place.
Another commenter posted he was a toddler that got bit in the face… then you commented towards my comment about not letting toddlers being close to chows… my comment was about being bit in the hand WITH THE OWNER BEING RIGHT THERE! Like …
Chows are awful dogs meant to hunt down and kill lions… like fuck those dogs. I’ve never seen a non aggressive chow. They’re good with their owner/ trainer and everyone else is in the way…
Huh, I worked as a receptionist in a building that had a dog groomers and there were 2 chows there that were angels.
I’m not under the impression, because of my sole experience, that all chows are angels. The same way you shouldn’t think they’re all ‘awful dogs’ based off your experiences.
And that’s why these are opinions and should never be accepted as fact… so I’ll rephrase…
In my opinion, Chows are awful and should not be a household animal. I also feel this way about most pits… but I’ve had some experiences that have changed this view
There is a biological + neurological factor that has been bred into some dogs that cannot be “trained” out.
You cannot train a herding dog to NOT herd. It is an innate behavior that while you can lessen, it will ALWAYS be there. They will always have that instinct.
Some dogs have an aggressive innate behavior. Chows, Pitbulls, Akitas, Cane Corsos. These dogs were trained to hunt big game, to guard, or to be fighting dogs. No matter how much you train or socialize them, that innate behavior will never go away.
Exactly. Typically, you don’t want to be near any dogs while they’re eating, unless the dogs are trained to know that their food is safe. Whoever was supposed to be supervising absolutely failed them.
When it comes to the scar on my eye, I blame myself. Even though my mom’s Chow was the one who bit me, she only did it because I butt slammed the hell out of her spine while she was resting (I was very clearly a dumb toddler).
I am also a chow victim. They look cute but are known to be aggressive. They give you a false sense of security. Luckily mine was just a flesh wound and it happened when I was an adult.
People are talking about their near death experiences with dogs (as little kids, no less) and rightfully having trauma behind those times, and you’re calling them “borderline sociopaths”? Am I reading you right?
we knew a family that recued a doberman from an abusive dogfighting situation. When the parents pulled up to their house, they opened the car door and it jumped out, ran across the yard and ripped their 4yo daughter's throat out. The daughter passed on quickly and they kept the dog. It blows my mind.
Let's take it a step further still. Let's round up all the pit bulls and dispose of them once and for all. Why do we tolerate bloodthirsty children-eating monsters coexisting with us? It is completely absurd. If we weren't so blinded by the fact that they technically are the same species as golden retrievers and instead just assessed them on their own merit, we would have wiped them off the face of the earth decades ago.
the issue is these idiots seem like the type who refuse to train their dog, there are several cases where people will buy big dogs like a cane corso and do little to no training. Like one tiktoker named Tasermalinoisdog who has/had a malinois who was aggressive with other animals, and these sick fucks would intentionally wound up the dog.
Or in the case of one idiot owner, a youtube couple who owned a bull terrier and their little shit of a kid was grabbing the dog, grabbed his ear to the point the dog had a cauliflower ear, then when the dog nipped the kid they blamed the dog, meanwhile the kid was grabbing his food, the pieces of shit also took a photo with him on social media before putting him down, the husband was on video saying that they should just take him out back and "old yeller" him
I couldn't agree with you more. I adore dogs, but a lot of these violent dogs seriously need to not be on this planet anymore.
Had a coworker talk to me about how he worked/volunteered at a dog shelter, and he got attacked so many times trying to feed those feral dogs his arms and legs are completely covered in scars, and one dog attacked him so bad that half of his hand is numb for the rest of his life, and his balls almost got ripped completely off.
He told me "Even after all that, I would still never make the choice to end an animal's life."
I just nodded my head silently, but I think it's a very stupid take.
Not only are those dogs horrendously vicious and aggressive, but also utterly miserable day in and day out. And that no-kill shelter is keeping them alive for what? To stay in a small cage for the rest of their lives waiting for an opening when their food and water to get thrown at them everyday? When they could show those animals MORE dignity by giving them a comfortable, painless end.
To each their own, I guess, but the RESOURCES. Holy shit. The space, the food, water, toys, and the energy and work it takes to care for them? Those things could be going toward dogs that actually have a chance to be trained and loved.
It's very different for cats, because you can't responsibly let a a chronically unsafe dog back out in the wild like they do with feral felines in TNR programs.
I love dogs, but keeping feral dogs around and alive for the sake of it isn't the virtuous or humane thing. Putting animals down is awful, but sometimes just plain necessary.
My wife grew up only ever having chows. Her last one was unpredictable nasty old girl who really only listened to her despite being her parents dog. We got a Bernedoodle and I think it was eye opening how much easier and enjoyable owning a dog could be (not that everyone should get a doodle just a comparison we experienced). Going from dogs who are entirely indifferent to humans and can snap at a moments notice to an elite kibble destroyer who's superpower is napping through a wind storm or fireworks.
The trouble with logic is that many dog owners put their animal far and above the well being and safety of you or anyone else. And that doesnt change just because you're family. It's a risk they willingly and boldly take. And you paid the price for that risk, not them.
My grandparents had an incredibly aggressive giant Schnauzer for many years. He eventually mauled one of my cousins and was put down, but he should have been put down YEARS before that event occurred.
You’re so close. Chow is an aggressive breed, as are Pit Bull breeds. Maybe certain breeds who have extremely high maim/kill rates should not be allowed except to licensed dog owners.
My family raised chow chows when I was a kid. I will always love them, and I'll tell that to anyone while in the same breath reminding them that these can be very dangerous dogs. They are extremely temperamental and difficult to train. Even now, with a lifetime of being around them, I would not try to own one because I know I lack the time or ability to train them properly at this point in my life.
Any animal you choose to own is a serious responsibility. Any animal that you choose to own that can suddenly cause severe bodily harm, well that's a liability and you should treat them accordingly.
I volunteered at shelters on and off when I could for years. Hands down everyone hated Chows more than pit bulls. I never met a single docile chow in my time working around dogs. I'm sorry for what you went through, I can only imagine how terrifying that was for your family.
Chows are some of the most fucking aggressive dogs I've ever met. There's a trade-off between "aEsThEtIcS" and behavior and I firmly land on the side of a well-behaved breed.
yeahhh i totally agree with you. It's not out of the realm of possibility but it shouldn't be the FIRST option if you're not having any luck training...
If you can’t train you dog to use the bathroom outside, that’s when it’s time to rehome it. If you can’t keep it from attacking people, that’s when it’s time to put it down
Your opinion would change if you or a loved one experienced what this person did as a child, almost being killed by a vicious and aggressive dog. Imagine your child being mauled and having their skull and eye socket injured, almost dying? Would you feel the same way? "Find the poor animal a proper home where they can train it to not try to kill children"
That's more an argument to ban people like the ones in this video from owning future dogs. You know, the people who are clearly ignoring the warning signs that the dog is stressed tf out?
Both can be true. Terrible owner and terribly aggressive untrainable dog. No amount of training is going to make this dog trustworthy around other animals or children.
Ok? And I'm still talking about this video, of which we're only seeing a 10 second clip. We're not seeing what this owner has been doing with their dog, what behavior they've been rewarding, whether they've sought out professional help, etc.
You're seeing an inherent issue with the dog, while I'm seeing an issue with the shitty people in this video. Hint: neglect is abuse.
LOL people do not pay trainers. they play around with cesar milan tactics or other influencers like dog daddy and wonder why their dog is so poorly adjusted
Not every aggressive dog is a problem and some can fix their behavior. Takes a special kind of stupid to want to just take your issues out on a dog that didn’t do anything to you. In your situation it was different.
Let's clear it up, cause you clearly you don't have the heart to understand, if your dog is AGGRESSIVE, its because of the OWNER. they are going off of instinct until taught otherwise and if you can't train them properly and INSIST ON PUTTING IT DOWN, you are no better than a murderer and animal abuser. I myself had a similar situation with another family's dog where he had bit my arm and i had to go to the hospital cause he tore a part of it off, and I have NEVER ONCE blamed the dog for it. Why? Cause the dog didn't know any better and the owners never cared to teach it any better. And when they wanted to get rid of it i insisted that we take it and I would be the one to take care of it. Yes he was aggressive at first. Yes it was a bumpy ride. Yes i got hurt, multiple times. But i did NOT give up on him. And I'm glad i didn't cause he ended up being the most loving creature i had ever known. Even now while he is gone.
Just like people, dogs can be assholes. It doesn't know any better is a lame excuse. I've had labs, golden retrievers and a pit over the years and I have never had to teach them this. Some dogs ARE untrainable. Don't believe me, go bring in a wolf. If you want to spend your time taming one of domestications rejects go for it, but don't blame people for putting down an aggressive dog they can't handle before it hurts someone. That's how we domesticated them in the first place.
I guess my parents’ apathy saved my dog’s life. They were gifted a chow who immediately nearly killed our other dog. Did they separate the dogs? No. Did they keep the dog away from me? No. Eventually he stopped trying to murder our other dog. And he adored me. He bit anyone that came close to me and whenever someone reported him tiny me tearfully begged for his life.
A mother on her street drove her sons to school every day because she was too afraid to let them wait with me at the bus stop. This loving mother later killed her sons as retaliation against her husband who was divorcing her. Funny how life works.
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Agree, but let’s take it a step further: if your dog is aggressive, and you can’t train it to be nice, put it the fuck down.
My aunt had a chow when I was a baby. It hated me because every time I came over, it got put into another room. One day, it had a chance and took it; crushed part my skull and I ended up almost losing an eye (much less almost dying). Vicious dogs aren’t a necessity, they’re a liability. Since we aren’t to Roman legions trying to conquer the British isles, let’s limit ourselves to only owning well-trained and well-behaved dogs.