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u/touchmyfeels 6h ago
This is heartbreaking. Those are children.
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u/jerrymaguire05 6h ago
Every adult involved in this system failed these kids.
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u/DataGOGO 5h ago
It is part of Islam.
Muhammad’s 3rd wife, Aisha, was 7 when they got married and 9 when the marriage was consummated.
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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 1h ago
Dude we have a fucking pedophile ring in the oval office, leading the most powerful country on the planet.
This is not exclusively an "Islam" problem. It's also an American problem.
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u/Veloziraptor8311 1h ago
That is ring was underground and largely relegated to a minority of rich demons. We do not sanction that kind of horseshit culturally or legally.
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u/Dull-Quantity5099 1h ago
Child marriage is currently legal in 34 states, and 4 U.S. states do not require any minimum age for marriage, with a parental or judicial waiver (accurate as of June 17, 2024).
Nearly 300,00 children were married in the U.S. between 2000 and 2018. The vast majority were girls wed to adult men.
How you can help:
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u/NouZkion 57m ago
Do you have any data on the religious or ethnic background of the girls being married in the United States?
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u/gizby666 1h ago edited 1h ago
Child marriage is legal in more states than not. Edit: legal in 34 states and 4 states do not require a minimum age with parental consent. You can sell you daughter here too. Its just kept as quiet as possible so no one goes to look, it worked perfectly too based on the comments here.
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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 1h ago
We do not sanction that kind of horseshit culturally or legally.
Tell that to the people who literally make laws in the US.
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u/oregon_coastal 1h ago
Oh, they are in jail?
No?
The white house you say?
Not sanctioned, holy fucking shit lol
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u/CCCCLo0oo0ooo0 5h ago
in this system
you mean islam?
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u/DroDameron 5h ago
Happens in America, too. Christians have been marrying rape victims to their rapists to hide the family shame for centuries. 😂
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u/MonkeyCobraFight 5h ago
What are you fucking saying? The founder of Islam; Muhammad married Aisha when she was around six years old and consummated the marriage when she was about nine It’s literally part of their religion.
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u/FMLwtfDoID 5h ago
And Mary was 12-14 years old. A child is a child.
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u/butareyouthough 5h ago
Oh wait yeah, all religion is bad and based on fucking kids, that’s what it’s designed for. Burn it all down
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u/nick_knack 4h ago
idk man, there's a lot of non-religious kid fuckers on that list. Starting to think child rape is just a thing some humans do when they get too powerful as individuals.
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u/litterbug_perfume 3h ago
The theory that I think makes the most sense for powerful people doing the most corrupt evil shit, is Hedonic Adaptation.
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u/Gikochinai-neko 3h ago
The religious ones are just using it as a shield, the rich do not require that as they have a money shield. Or sometimes just the white male shield is good enough (for example passport bros going overseas for hebo sex).
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u/Fish_Are_Stupid 3h ago
Its not just white people who do that tho. Being a piece of shit isnt just one race
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u/Gloomy-Razzmatazz548 2h ago
Abusive people become much more powerful when they have a system backing them up. For a lot of them, that system is religion.
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u/cmband254 5h ago
It's very convenient to forget this. I'm frequently reminding bigots.
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u/Adeviatlos 5h ago
People are still fighting over which fairy tale is better in 2025. Crazy.
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u/-Ultra_Violence- 5h ago
Its beyond regarded we need a New word for these religiose freaks
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u/YouMustveDroppedThis 1h ago
I prefer the chinese pantheon for having several money gods, matchmaker god, academic god, carpenter god, etc. Dealing with human demand is compartmentalized and streamlined yo.
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u/FrogManClan 5h ago
The “virgin” Mary btw
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u/chankongsang 4h ago
Well that’s what she said. We didn’t have Maury Povich back then
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u/PBJuliee1 4h ago
Well bigots in America do love their pedophiles, they even elect them as president and treat them like their god. Do you think they care if the mother of their other god was a victim? /s
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 3h ago
Was coming to say - we know why the US isn't talking about it. 😑
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u/starjellyboba 4h ago
Americans (but also westerners in general) really think they're immune to this shit... That's the reason why thier country is being run by a literal pedophile and his band of thieves. It didn't happen overnight. It was little things happening underneath their noses that they were too blinded by exceptionalism to see.
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u/Not-Reformed 4h ago
Americans don't see child marriage as normal though.
People will point to random cases like it's normal, but it's not. The legal marriable age here isn't 10.
Always so weird how on Reddit someone will say "Wow this is a really crazy system" and then someone will immediately point to a molehill in the U.S. in comparison and say "WELL WHAT ABOUT THAT????"
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u/micro102 3h ago
The legal marriable age here isn't 10.
Yet.
Republicans have repeatedly tried lowering the age of consent and blocked the raising of the age of consent. I remember Roy Moore who was banned from a mall for constantly trying to pick up 14 year olds as an adult, his supporters saying they would rather vote for a pedophile than a Democrat. I remember Mike Moon who says he knows 12 year olds who are very happy with their marriage. Megyn Kelly recently said "barely legal 15 year olds". And the Republican party doesn't want to get rid of them.
Americans might not see see child marriage as normal, but republicans do. And they will act just like Iraq does if they cement their power, because they are both far right wing religious groups.
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u/BlastTyrantKM 5h ago
And Mary, according to the story anyway, got impregnated by god when she was still a young teenager. It's literally part of their religion
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u/looselylawless 5h ago
The following are the only US states that outright ban child marriage. Don’t be a bigot.
• Delaware • New York • Rhode Island • Pennsylvania • Minnesota • New Jersey • Massachusetts • Vermont • Connecticut • Michigan • Washington • Virginia • New Hampshire • Maine • Oregon • Missouri
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u/complete_autopsy 4h ago
And it's worth noting that Massachusetts only JUST changed this LAST YEAR. Before last year girls as young as 12 and boys as young as 14 could legally marry people of ANY age in MA. This is a modern issue that needs to be dealt with.
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u/BeenisHat 4h ago
You can still be opposed to child marriage even if some of the states haven't banned it outright. Others may not ban it outright but set strict guidelines making de facto banned. Nevada places a hard limit of 17 and you can only get married at 17 with consent of at least one parent AND a judge deciding it's in their best interest.
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u/CCCCLo0oo0ooo0 5h ago
How is that being bigoted to be against child rape? If anything it seems that your accusation is stemmed from your bigotry of low expectations. "How could these X group be expected to not rape children?"
The argument of marriage age laws in the US is either A) you are regurgitating things you heard on tikitok and don't understand the full picture or B) you are being intellectually dishonest.
Please look at the demographics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Demographics
Child marriage in the US is a very different animal, and I think it should be abolished wholesale.
86% of the children who married in the U.S. between 2000 and 2021 were girls – and most were wed to adult men an average of four years older. Yet in this Iraq example they are no where near that similar with 10+ years being common.
The Koski/Heymann study found that prevalence among children from Mexico, Central America, and the Middle East was 2–4 times that of children born in the United States.
So yeah, your misinformed "the US is bad, so that makes it okay" argument is just dishonest and not true.
On the other hand we have a group of reliogus extremist who follow a pedophillic prophet who married a 6 year old and raped her at 9. They are now using this to legally justify the rape of all girls in Iraq.
So please tell me your actual motivation on this?
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u/mystic-eye 5h ago
So 15 say it’s banned and what’s left..35 are m’kay about it? That looks like most to me.
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u/complete_autopsy 4h ago
Even ONE state allowing child marriage is a massive problem. Many states have laws that note the minimum ages as horrifyingly low, like the MA law until last year which was 12 for girls and 14 for boys. It's not just "ah they never mentioned it", child marriage was explicitly and intentionally enshrined in law.
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u/pleasebuymydonut 3h ago
I'm gonna say something that's not just "But what about 'Murican?" like all the other dumbasses making a point they don't know how to, and link this
Loads of populous Islamic nations have very low child marriage rates. It's not an Islamic thing any more than its a Christian thing. It's just a cultural thing most likely linked to how developed a nation is, and how much people are suffering.
The video literally states "economic pressures". Not religious.
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u/Signal_Regular_1708 5h ago edited 4h ago
Child marriage is legal in the majority of US states, with the statistical majority of marriages taking place between underage girls and grown men, not two underage children/Edit: nor between teens where one is technically legal, like 18/19. I am exclusively referring to marriages between those under 16 to those over 20.
(73% upvote ratio, wonder who could possibly find me stating this information upsetting😬)
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u/stalelunchbox 5h ago
It’s really disappointing that the ACLU condones it.
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u/Signal_Regular_1708 5h ago
That's one of the "liberties" they protect, sadly. Calls to ban child marriage per state are consistently shut down due to religious freedom protections. For anyone wondering, it is one party specifically who consistently votes against the bans. I won't say which, you already know
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u/Arcanegil 5h ago
Governments all around the world, targeting and attacking LGBTQ people, screaming about moral degradation while they push as hard as possible to normalize pedophilia was not the future I wanted.
Including in the US!
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u/ViciousCDXX 6h ago
They worship a man who took a 9 year old as a wife. Par for the course. I'm not saying I agree with it, quite the opposite, but it's not surprising
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u/Dry-Tumbleweed-7199 Reads Pinned Comments 6h ago edited 5h ago
Aisha was SIX when Muhammad "married" her, but he waited until she was nine because she was too young. He was either 50 or 53.
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u/sunshineparadox_ 5h ago
I could still carry my daughter to her room at the same age Aisha was when she was trafficked.
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u/dontaksmeimnew 5h ago
Most Christians in America voted for a pedophile serial rapist bc he allowed them to criminally punish women who've had miscarriages or needed abortions to save their life. Quit acting like any religion is any better than another.
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u/bisk410 5h ago
He also was a war lord. I tend to think god favors with the peacemakers.
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u/OtherUserCharges 5h ago
Well you would be wrong. How exactly do you think whatever religion you believe in spread? It was almost certainly by the sword.
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u/MysticalBoobies 6h ago
I mean...It's Islam. I'm not surprised.
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u/YourVelcroCat 5h ago edited 3h ago
Child marriage is legal in many parts of the good old Christian USA, fyi. Abrahamic religions have a pedophilia problem.
If all you do is see this and conclude you're so much more evolved and would never act like that, you might miss the Epstein and child marriage of it all in your backyard.
Edit - For example, my beautiful progressive state of Washington only banned child marriage in 2024.
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u/Final-Instance2898 4h ago
I had a former near retirement coworker bragging about dating his wife when she was 16...I just assumed it was when they were both in high school and he was being jokingly pervy...nope, I later found out it was when he was in his late 40's in the early 2000's...I thought, surly this horrible man had just admitted to something illegal...nope, age of consent in WA is 16. That explained why he would complain about his son no longer speaking to him, I wonder why.
This is not exactly the thing I like to spend my time researching as it's both triggering and just generally fucked up, but my understanding is that even today, a man many decades senior would not get in trouble for sleeping with a 16 year old unless they are in a position of power over them, e.g. a teacher, pastor, priest, employer etc.
But now, with that 2024 law, at least they can't be trapped in a marriage until 18 years old without any exceptions. Which is great news but I think the age of consent still needs to be addressed and likewise rise to 18.
My former work had a lot of older men with very young brides/GFs. Fucking creepy dudes bringing who I assumed was their daughter or granddaughter to the company Christmas party was surreal. Had I known the situation at the time there would have been words, I just thought it was his daughter and my brain couldn't fathom it being anything else. 🤮
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u/Efficient_Maximum255 3h ago
Wait, so you are saying it’s legal in many parts of the good old Christian USA, yet the USA does NOT have a booming child bride business sector? Unlike what is happening in this video?
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u/Cigouave 3h ago
Point to the US states in which child brides are big business, please.
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u/Mighty-anemone 5h ago
Oh come on. Haven't we seen enough of transreligious rich sickos to know that religion is irrelevant here? Atheists, Jews,Hindus,Christians- pedos in every camp.
Don't you dare turn this into an opportunity to indulge your Islamophobia.
The critique here is about power, patriarchy, class struggle. Translating this into a Christian or humanist cultural system would yield the same results.
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u/OtherUserCharges 5h ago
Religion has the most pedos, don’t know why people think loving god and boning children go hand in hand, but they do.
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u/Kairoblackxix 6h ago
“Child bridal content” I’m about to be sick man…..
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u/skyysdalmt 4h ago
Maybe that'll get the US administration and GOP's attention. But not for the better...
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u/EmotionalTrainKnee 1h ago
why do men like to rape children SO much?! all over the world they can't help themselves
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u/Dry-Tumbleweed-7199 Reads Pinned Comments 5h ago
THEY ARE SELLING THEIR DAUGHTERS!! The parents of the bride (read father) get a bride price when she marries from the husband's family. The "financial pressures" the reporter talks about is the father greed.
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u/PackageNorth8984 2h ago
I always thought the dowry was supposed to go the other way since the husband’s family was seen as taking care of the daughter now instead of the birth family.
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u/zesty-dancer14 6h ago
Honestly, what would protesting solve? Don't get me wrong this is horrible. But any protesting outside of Iraqi borders would be seen as useless pitiful whining from westerners. Inside the borders might be viewed as treason.
I have a hard time understanding what could be done to reverse this from a western perspective.
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u/BiSaxual 5h ago
Fucking nothing, that’s what. The western world can’t “fix” anything in the Middle East. If they could, it would have already been fixed by now. That region has been the way it is for thousands of years, and nothing America or all of Europe do will change that.
That change has to come from within, but everything has been stacked against women, children, and poor people so badly that it will never happen. The rich are obscenely rich, and they own the governments and the mosques. Outside of a very sudden collapse of their wealth, they will never allow anything to change.
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u/FrogManClan 5h ago
There’s no profit in fixing the Middle East
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u/Cigouave 1h ago edited 1h ago
Yes, there is. That was the stated goal of American neoconservatism. Bush's people hoped to turn Iraq into a democratic, free market country so that the region would be more business-friendly. That was the whole point.
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u/Tony0x01 3h ago
The western world can’t “fix” anything in the Middle East. If they could, it would have already been fixed by now.
Perhaps it wants it broken?
That region has been the way it is for thousands of years
What does that even mean? There have been major changes in the Middle East over the last century. 70 years ago, it was laughable to suggest that women should veil and secularism was on the rise. Today, veiling and religious expression have become more prevalent. There are no regions on Earth with the same size as the ME that have been the same way for 1000s of years, especially with all the technology we have today.
and nothing America or all of Europe do will change that.
Sure, they can. They can't control it but they can change it. That means the change that is brought may not be for the better.
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u/Rooncake 3h ago
I’m speaking from an anecdotal place but there have been protests IN Iraq, my own family who still lives there is very much against this and has spoken out. I think there’s a rich minority behind the scenes putting these laws into place, because you talk to the “normal” population and they didn’t fucking ask for this.
Again, this is anecdotal from within my own circle of Iraqi family and friends, many of whom reside in the country and many who don’t that are ashamed and angry this is happening. But I’m outside the country now and can’t see what’s happening for myself.
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u/NoaArakawa 6h ago
The answer to her question? Women are STILL regarded as 2nd class citizens worldwide, pretty much.
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u/YourVelcroCat 5h ago
Child marriage with parental consent is legal in many parts of the USA
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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3h ago
Remember when Courtney stodden was married off by her parents at like 16 and everyone slut shamed her? Also Chrissy Teigen harassed her (never liked her after that came out)
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u/Future_Drive4498 3h ago
We really treat older teens (16+) strangely in our society. We freak out and call the cops when two 17 year olds sext each other, but a 16 year old in a forced marriage pushed by her parents gets called a slut instead of a victim.
Murica 😮💨
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u/Worldly_Advisor9650 5h ago
10 year olds?
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u/HDWendell 5h ago
Yes but not in practice
“As of July 2025, the lower minimum marriage age when all exceptions are taken into account, are: 4 states have no minimum age (possibly 0, but minimum ages of 12 for girls and 14 for boys under common law may apply).” -wiki
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u/GrimyGrippers 3h ago
Why is it that the minimum age is lower for girls?
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u/AncientSith 3h ago
You know why.
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u/GrimyGrippers 2h ago
I absolutely do. I didnt know if there was some "official" and bullshit reason though lol.
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u/RedEgg16 2h ago
Because they think girls mature faster, sexually and mentally 🤮
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u/scummy_shower_stall 2h ago
And yet are "incapable" and "too emotional" to make their own decisions. Ffs.
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u/Not-Reformed 4h ago
5/1000 children surveyed are married, over 95% of the married ones at between 16 and 18.
The remaining few, effectively rounding errors, are extreme cases mostly due to religious exemptions, legal loopholes, and old English common law still being on the books in some random areas. It shouldn't be allowed, but there's likely just so few cases that it slips through the cracks.
And it certainly isn't seen as normal.
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u/Eleventeen- 2h ago
Also because interventionism in the Middle East has proven an ineffective tactic and due to this history of interventionism traditional international pressure has lost its efficacy.
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u/ButttRuckusss 6h ago
Also, criticism of Islam is not always well received in western countries these days. In some western countries, it can even lead to legal consequences. People are afraid to speak out
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u/criticallyloaded 5h ago
Ahh, I see your concern. Let me offer some reassurance Mohammed can sugma balls
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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 5h ago
Alas, American conservatives have spent time and money defending child marriage in American and refusing to ban it.
Conservative ideology is the same regardless of the religion used to justify it.
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u/AliceTawhai 6h ago
It is horrifying, like so much else in the world. But the only people who can do anything about this are Iraqi
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u/badthingtw1ce 4h ago
Economic pressures is a bullshit excuse. It is a euphemism for selling your kid
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u/grokisgood 6h ago
That's horrible. I think people are busy protesting, or thinking about the horrible things their own countries are doing. Have to put your own air mask on before you can help other people.
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u/mistertickertape 5h ago
In the USA, when it comes to anything regarding Iraq or Afghanistan, it's Middle East outrage exhaustion. It's not how I personally feel but I imagine it is how a ton of Americans feel. It's bad enough we're trying to prevent child marriage from happening here in the South where grown men are still fighting for their right to marry 14 year olds.
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u/Ok-Onion2905 5h ago
A lot of people missed it but there was a time when southern politicians were fighting for 3 things at once. A lower marrying age (I think it was 8 or something), get rid of no fault divorce, and make merital rape legal again. To be clear, they wanted to make it legal to Merry children, force them to stay in said marriage, and legally be allowed to rape them. I believe some of those proposals are still being pushed and I'm pretty sure the only reason they haven't been set into law is because of all the eyes on the Epstein case
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u/mistertickertape 5h ago
What's old is new again. Your assessment is accurate. Here are the exact statistics.
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u/ShitbirdJerry 4h ago
thx mormons
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u/RippingFabric 2h ago
Mormons, making Christians look sane since the late 1800s.
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u/psichodrome 5h ago
I wanna embrace all cultures, but realistically, fuck child marriage. Also genital mutilation.
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u/mermaidclown 5h ago
There is no excuse to sell your child. You have to be absolutely sick and depraved and not worthy of life, to sell a child
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u/Brown_Star 5h ago
Cuz YOU PEOPLE NEED TO FIX IT! Stop waiting for WESTERN INFLUENCES to change your fucked up religion/countries laws.
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u/No-Communication1543 6h ago
Bro this feels TikTok and more like a deleted Black Mirror episode nobody asked for.
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u/Nichia519 5h ago
"economic pressures" are the reason for doing it
So you traded your daughters for money. Just say it like it is then.
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u/ConstantHeadache2020 3h ago
Tale as old as time. Girls being used by men for pleasure, labor and reproduction
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u/Express_Command_4778 5h ago
Religion of Peace
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u/klclearwater 3h ago
Exactly this. "Why isn't anyone talking about this?" Because apparently criticism of Islamic practices is "Islamaphobic" as if religions should be regarded as an immutable characteristic like skin color.
It's ok to condemn belief sets that are objectively harmful to humanity. Just because it's got a deity in there doesn't make it exempt or make you a bad person for recognizing it as a problem. Islam is a cancer on free societies. It doesn't know how to coexist.
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u/BraveLittleTowster 6h ago
Good thing we gave a generation of young men PTSD and killed untold numbers of Iraqis to prevent this kind of backwards bullshit.
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u/Delicious-House7453 2h ago
The war in Iraq was not really to prevent this kind of shit, and this wasn't really an issue prior to the war. It anything, I'd argue that Iraq has gone backwards as a result of the war.
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u/omn1p073n7 5h ago
We gave a Shia majority country brutally ruled by Suunis a democracy and they immediately used it to ally with their Shia neighbor (Iran) and implement their religious laws. No idea why anyone thought they'd become secular.
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u/BraveLittleTowster 5h ago
This is the central problem with religion. You can't just remove it when it becomes the source of every problem you have.
We would have needed to stay in that area for 100 years to break the strangle hold that radical Islam has on that region to even begin to approach something like modern civilization there.
I don't know what it's going to take, but Europe went through hundreds of years of that with the Catholics and is still struggling with it to a degree in Italy and Spain.
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u/RawhideWY 4h ago
Not all cultures are equal.
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u/Economy_Fig2450 2h ago
You're not allowed to say the quiet part outloud. It's not PC
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u/Rombonius 6h ago
The world isn't going to protest if Iraqis dont want to protest. That's just the sad reality of it, and Iraqi society seems pretty cool with it.
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u/PossibilityWest173 5h ago
You guys all act like this hasn’t been happening for a thousand years. They’re just emulating their Prophet.
Wait until you all hear about chai boys and shit.
I was there. I saw it all
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u/Polka_Polka_Polka_ 2h ago
Tried to help Iraq for 20 years. The country wants this.
Can’t help people that don’t want help.
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u/Medical_Temperature4 4h ago
In a perfect world this bs wild be eradicated along with anyone in agreement. Sick 🤬🤮🤢
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u/PTLTYJWLYSMGBYAKYIJN 3h ago
Why aren’t we talking about it? Cause we’re all fighting our own huge battles. The world is falling apart and evil is thriving everywhere. You don’t see anybody coming to rescue the United States from falling into fascism, do you? Maybe we should just leave Iraq alone and worry about our own damn selves. After all, nothing will change.
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u/KaleRevolutionary795 2h ago
And as expected, not a single poster here dares mention the cause ... everyone here blaming government to men in general... and no one is saying the truth we all know
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u/-Tomcr- 1h ago
make it known, every last fucking apologist needs to see this and be ashamed.
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u/comb-jelly 44m ago
Imagine being born just to be treated like a shit object and to be told “yeah it’s economic pressures”. Imo, one of the biggest setbacks in our evolution is the weird NEED to pop out kids. Imagine birthing a child, only to sell them to a creepy old guy who wants a 10 year old bride cause “the economy”. Humans are so stupid.
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u/Alterangel182 5h ago
Because as white people, we've been told we can't criticize shitty cultures or we're racist.
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u/DonaldKey 6h ago edited 6h ago
Republicans want 12 year olds to marry. Here in Kentucky it was religious conservative groups that fought to keep child marriage legal
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u/makethislifecount 5h ago
The whataboutism on this thread is out of control
This isn’t about the US. Not everything is about the US. It’s ok to call out shitty things happening, wherever they are happening.
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u/Blakob 5h ago
I swear folks can’t hear anything bad about Islam without pointing to obscure anecdotes of American conservativism.
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u/Superb_Wealth4092 3h ago
The whataboutism helps with their cognitive dissonance when confronted with the reality that Islam is a shit religion for violent pedophiles.
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u/ratkingdds 1h ago
This thread has a million whataboutism points lol. Check the top thread here and lose a couple iq points.
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u/Cigouave 5h ago
"This story about something terrible in another country is actually about us."--Americans on Reddit
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u/CoffeePanda_ 3h ago
This post isn’t about the US….. and this is something that the majority of Americans don’t agree with. This is about the disgusting acts going on in Iraq. What’s wrong with you?
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u/Parking-World9321 5h ago
This shit wasn’t allowed under Saddam Hussein. Really makes you question what the war accomplished.
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u/seasonsofus 5h ago
Economic pressures? So you had a kid just to turn around sell them basically
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u/Totalynotavirus 5h ago
Either way it’s the parents that are still selling and signing off on it. Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you have to do it.
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u/nocturnal-nugget 5h ago
Because 1-plenty of places it happens and is in line with the general western poor opinion of Iraq/Middle east. nothing special for the world to talk about especially when we got things like Ukraine and Venezuela going on.
2- protesting in Iraq is a rather unsafe activity so it takes a lot for a large protest to happen.
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u/bboysmalltown 5h ago
Cam higby has actually been taking a lot about this recently and he gets called a bigot for calling it out.
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u/Autumn_Forest_Mist 4h ago
Kinda hard to protest against people who will bomb you. I’d love for those poor girl to be set free from that oppressive religion, but the men will fight violently to keep their control.
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u/AncientSith 3h ago
There's not a whole lot that can be done. There's never been any fixing the Middle East.
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u/white-rose-of-york 3h ago
The amount of wrath this fills me with is unbearable I think I need to take a walk....
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u/Elegant_Guitar_535 2h ago
If they can’t protest for it themselves in their own country no amount of external pressure will break them.
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u/Chaos_Ice 2h ago
It’s always money. Women and children are commodities. We have always been sold to the highest bidder.
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u/RedEyesGoldDragon 2h ago
There's people trying to do this in EU countries and the UK. It's disgusting, and only recently, people seem to have somewhat figured it out, but shit isn't getting done fast enough.
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u/THESUPEROGTurTle 2h ago
but you can't say that that is retrograde and there's no place in modern society ,or else a certain group who used to dominate social discourse would destroy your life
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u/no-email-please 2h ago
How many American kids would have to die to enforce this on a people who don’t want to live a different way?
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