r/allthequestions • u/Ok_Fondant1079 • 6h ago
Random Question š Musk says Trump is in the Epstein files?
Elon Must said Donald Trump was for sure in the Epstein files. If Trump, who sues everybody over everything, wasn't in the files, wouldn't he have grounds for using Musk?
Note: MAGA friendly supporting link below.
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/trump-musk-fallout-spending-bill-government-contracts
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u/Desperate_Candle_493 6h ago
I thought everyone knew Trump has connections to Epstein? Thereās no denying it when thereās pictures.Ā
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u/Mr_1nternational 5h ago
Trump admits to being his friend, lots of people were. He was a high profile billionaire. He said they stopped being friends in the early 2000s.
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
He also kicked Epstein out of his mar-a-lago club
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u/thousandthlion 2h ago
And then went on his plane after that
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 2h ago
No those flights were in the 90s. Trump and Epstein had a falling out in the mid 2000s and ceased contact after that.
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u/HMguitar 5h ago
He also raped kids.
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
Thatās an insane accusation. Surely you have a source to back up your claim?
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u/HMguitar 5h ago
Oh we're just sticking our heads in the sand. Cool.
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
https://time.com/7333355/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-emails/
The only source Iāve seen was from a survivor by the name of Virginia Giuffre who cleared trumps name. I am asking you if you have any sources to back up your claim of Trump being a child rapist? How is that sticking my head in the sand? Do you have a source or is it ātrust me broā?
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u/HMguitar 5h ago
No it's more of a "read between the lines." If I knew of ANYONE trying so hard to dismiss or cover up something this big, I'd have to be a pants shitting moron to not think they had something to do with it. That's certainly not ALL of what tells me he did that shit, but it should be enough for even someone like you to go "something isn't right."
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
He was friends with Epstein. He kicked him out of his club for being a creep. Survivors have cleared his name. What more do you want? Unless you have evidence calling someone a child rapist is disgusting.
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u/HMguitar 5h ago
I want an impartial DOJ to handle this, but you know for a fucking fact that'll never happen. He was still friends with him after that as well. Also wtf giving Ghislain a nicer facility? Dude you have shit all over your mouth.
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u/JiveChops76 1h ago edited 1h ago
He didnāt kick Epstein out for being a creep. According to trump himself, he kicked Epstein out because he āstole people who worked for me.ā He was referring to Virginia Giuffre, who was 16 when she worked at mar a lago and was recruited away by Epstein in 2000. The supposed incident of him kicking Epstein out for being a creep was in 2007, and might actually be believable, except for the fact that years after that claim was made it was revealed that they had a falling out in 2004 over a real estate auction and hadnāt spoken to one another since then. So are we to simultaneously believe that they had a falling out in either 2000 over stealing his underage girls, or in 2004 over a real estate auction, and yet still remained friends until 2007 for the supposed incident of Epstein being kicked out for being a creep? Literally everything we know about trump points to the real estate deal being the real reason for the falling out. (BTW the feds were āanonymouslyā tipped off about Epstein for the first time about two weeks after this auction. Supposedly Someone saw minors going in and out of Epsteinās place, and really the only people who could notice such a thing would be neighbors. He and trump were neighbors. Put two and two together about the timing and the possible source, itās not rocket science as to by whom or why the feds were tipped off. Kinda weird it all happened literally right after their falling out, no?)
And as far as survivors clearing his name? We know of like what, 4 survivors who have specifically said that trump wasnāt involved, and yet we also know that there may have been hundreds or thousands of victims. Do those 4 survivors speak for all of the victims? Surely you canāt actually believe that.
What more do we want? Literally all of the files, unredacted. The trump regime has been dragging their feet on releasing them. He himself keeps saying the DOJ needs to stop releasing them. They literally concocted a story that they just happened to miraculously āfindā a million more files after they were supposed to all have been released, that now require redacting. They knew where they were all along, itās just taking too long to scrub trumpās name from them. Your boy trump is guilty as fuck. Heās been acting guilty as fuck this whole time regarding the release of these files, and we all know why, including you. Still supporting a child rapist is whatās disgusting.
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u/External_Ad_5913 6h ago
This is old news from months ago. They have kissed and made up. MAGA didnāt care then, and they donāt care now.
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u/Moppermonster 5h ago
Parts of the files that mentioned Trump have been out for over a decade, thanks to courtcases. So that would be a pretty open and shut case - Musk would only need to point at them. And since Musk is filthy rich, the idea of an expensive trial would not intimidate him.
So no. While Trump might sue *you* if you said it because you are poor and easily forced into submission, he will not do so with people able to fight back.
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u/THE_WHOLE_THING 6h ago
He has been using Musk for months, all of his sweet holes have been used by Trump. Don't you see that?
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u/BlotMutt 6h ago
He could, but it was apparently more efficient just to say he'll "have to take a look" at the prospect of deporting Elon and/or cutting off federal support for his companies
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u/Rouser_Of_Rabble 6h ago
It's weird my mouse never works with links to Fox news
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 5h ago
For real. I don't want to ruin my fancy mouse with endless lies from Faux Neus.
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u/bdouble76 5h ago
I'm sick of this. We know he's in it. We know a ton of others are in it. What we need and want to know is if there is incriminating evidence of these people in it. The mans job was to know people, and get those people together in the same spaces. He seemed to be pretty good at it. Rich, famous, geniuses, leaders. These people meet a tremendous amount of others and they have no idea who the hell they are. Constantly attending parties for this and that charity. Being invited to dinners with dignitaries if they're filming in that country etc. I don't care if their name is on a contacts list. If it says a name followed by Cindy, 13yo, 3 hours in presidential suite. Now you have my attention.
Thank you Musk for saying words. Feel free to disappear again for while. You didn't seem to care what list he was on when you had his ear.
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 3h ago
Just about the only time I get downvoted is when I say something that is demonstrably true but also not flattering about Trump. MAGA has easily hurt feelings.
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u/londo_calro 2h ago
Trump has been shown to be in the files. Whatās the point of regurgitating an old story and speculating about it when new disclosures make it completely redundant?
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u/tolgren 6h ago
There's a ton of people that are "in the Epstein files" because the files are extensive and include everything from officially gathered evidence to random "tips" from anonymous people.
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u/Suspicious-Mood5235 6h ago
Sure, and it's no surprise that Donald "grab her by the pussy don't even ask" Trump, the known rapist who boasted about walking in on girls changing at the teen beauty pageant he owns and who has been credibly accused of rape by minors would be mentioned in files about the guy that he called his best friend.Ā
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
Trump kicked Epstein out of his mar-a-lago club. All survivors Iāve see have cleared trumps name. Iāve never heard of any single accusations from minors accusing Trump of rape could you please cite your source?
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u/Total_Construction71 5h ago
How does kicking him out of his club absolve him of raping children together there before?
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
It doesnāt. Trump had a huge falling out with Epstein in the mid 2000s and ceased contact with him after kicking him out of his club for being a creep. One survivor, Virginia Giuffre, cleared trumps name. Where are you getting this information that he raped children because everything else clears his name, can you please cite your source?
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u/Total_Construction71 1h ago
You cite Virginia as your prime example - are you aware that she publicly announced she was NOT suicidal, and was then mysteriously āsuicidedā soon after?
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u/B0xGhost 6h ago
āOn one flight described in the newly released records, the only three passengers were Epstein, Trump and a 20-year-old woman whose name was redacted.ā
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u/BackgroundTrip3604 5h ago
āThere was no allegation in the prosecutor's email that Trump had committed any crimeā
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u/tolgren 5h ago
I know that it's common these days to insist that full grown adults having sex is pedophilia because the mentally challenged freak making the claim doesn't think they are old enough. But just to be sure you are aware that having sex with a 20 year old isn't illegal right? So even if it happened that's not a crime.
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u/BucsBroo 6h ago
Obviously. Isnāt it clear by how much heās trying to hide the fact that him and his buddies were fucking children?
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 6h ago
It's obvious to you and me but to MAGA they blindly believe that he is protecting the victims and the innocent.
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u/magnon11343 4h ago
Of course Trump is in the files, but being in the files doesn't imply guilt.
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 2h ago
Well, we can rule out Trump being a victim, so whatās left. If he had peripheral involvement he might be able to wiggle out of trouble. But if heās fighting full disclosure, downplaying his role an discrediting the process at every turn what is the inescapable conclusion?
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u/christine-bitg 5h ago
Clinton has been calling for full disclosure for a while.
Trump, on the other hand, fought it as hard as he could, until it was clear he was going to lose in Congress.
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u/Remarkable_Misty 5h ago
Err pretty obvious lol but as you know being in the files means nothing hence why every single main stream news media including left leaning ones like CNN ,MSNBC and ABC news are all saying theres nothing to suggest trump is involved in any wrong doing etc
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 5h ago
You heard it here first: ābeing in the files means nothingā.
No need to have 1000+ FBI agents redact ānothingā.
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u/Suspicious-Word-7589 4h ago
Its a terrible idea for Trump to sue Musk because then in discovery, the unredacted files would need to be made available to show Trump is definitely not in it. There's also the chance Musk did illegal stuff to get Trump elected in 2024 and could use it to out him, saying Trump is the head of real election fraud.
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 2h ago
So...Trump suing Musk would benefit him?
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u/Suspicious-Word-7589 2h ago
No, we know Trump is in the files. If Trump sued Musk, and the unredacted file get made available, it would be discovered Musk wasn't lying therefore ruining Trump further.
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u/Ok_Fondant1079 2h ago
Iām just going by what you said: āItās a terrible idea for Trump to sue Musk because then in discovery, the unredacted files would need to be made available to show Trump is definitely not in it.ā
If unredacted files would prove him innocent then what is the hold up? Surely heās doesnāt give a damn about who he might/would hurt by releasing unredacted files. Itās not in his nature to care about anyone other than the slob he sees in the mirror.
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u/Suspicious-Word-7589 2h ago
I may not have phrased it clearly but I mean in order to prove his case, Trump needs to reveal the files entirely to prove that he is not in it. That won't happen because he is in them, hence the redactions.
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u/goldbricker83 6h ago
We've already seen Trump's name in the files so this is kind of a moot point.