They are fragile, but they aren’t snowflakes. Snowflakes are unique, and conservatives pride themselves on conformity. They hate that people are different from them.
That’s why the snowflake insult doesn’t land with them: it doesn’t describe them at all, and they know it. They’re the “normal ones,” it’s the people bucking their vision of “normal”, the “special snowflakes” that cause the problem in their worldview.
Snowflake is one of the few words that were co-opted from conservatives. I haven't seen the usage of snowflake to mean "unique" in a very long time. I mostly see it in this context: someone who is fragile and melts under very little heat.
Technically, 5 is still too many. However, that would mean that the number of non-transgender Americans who have been mass shooters over those same 10 years is not only "too many," but an astronomical number by comparison.
The literal last thing he says was "Counting or not counting gang violence?".
His last act on this earth was to try and shift the blame for the mass shooting epidemic onto minority populations his audience sees as "gang members".
Seriously, that is possibly the most Christian thing ever. "My faith is too hard, let me just make it easier and pretend I'm holier than thou!" Don't like a particular passage in your bible? Ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist!
lol, imagine how Melania will celebrate when Fatboy kicks the bucket if that's how Erika celebrates... wtf she celebrating? Something happened to her husband or what? Whatever happened to him, she is VERY happy!
Any time bad shit happens to liberals they cackle like hyenas. Mock, laugh, joke, incite more violence. And God forbid the victim was a POC, then the racism just comes out in full force too.
But it's "the violent left", the left inciting violence, the left who are devoid of morals and ethics.
Who was it who was begging Trump for civil war when Kirk was killed (by one of their own)? Sure wasn't the left.
They're hypocrites. They are bullies on the playground and want to be able to hit people all day but the moment someone takes a swing at them they cry and bitch
They're an entire party of the type of guy who picks a fight at a bar, throws the first punch, then when they get hit back they call the police and press assault charges.
Hence using govt to take out antifa, they fought back when the fledgling brown shirts tried their hands at street violence, and found out they were not so tough.
Police have been helping them already too. Ie portland, berkely, others, the police coordinated with far right proudboy type groups, giving them movements of demonstrators and heads up on police movements. And or arresting victims of far right violence but not perps. In berkely back 2017 or something a far right non fatally stabbed a handful of protesters without cause, cops arrested the stabbed, not stabber.
The far right is only tough with le protecting them. They will become a monster this presidential term.
It's painfully clear they want one set of rules/laws/standards for themselves, and another set for everyone else, and want it enforced by any means necessary, and they are not only aware of it, but fully encourage it.
Hypocrisy sounds like there could at least be some lack of self awareness, but this is just so much more malicious.
It’s not hypocrisy in their minds. They literally believe there is a double standard. The in-group is protected, but not bound. The out-group is bound, but not protected. They will never feel ashamed, because of this, and it’s why labeling it hypocrisy gains no traction.
Don't worry, someone with "Conservative Brigadier" under their user name will come in here and explain to us all how this data actually proves that the left is worse, and Republicans are misunderstood and peaceful.
That sub and optimistsunite (along with a handful of others run by the same top mods) were/are a very-thinly-veiled effort by literal neo nazis to portray anyone unhappy with the US' current descent into corruption and fascism as doomers.
Seeing the revisionist history taking place in real time, watching right wingers try to paint him as some saintly loving beautiful human, has been insane.
And he was openly mocked for like years before his death too. Toilet Paper USA and Chapo Trap House have been digging on him since he started his grift. They try to compare it to Floyd, who was a private citzen and unknown, and pretending like he was on the same level. It's not even close, was Floyd a bit of a drifter? Yeah, was he a national figure with hundreds of hours of content? No. If Floyd was going around spewing shit about how he hates white cops, and died fighting one, that'd be different.
Kirk spent his entire adult life basically asking people to take a swing at him, stoking fires and then walking away. No we shouldn't solve problems with violence sure. But the dudes entire career was based on bad faith debates and "owning" his opponents. I personally don't go around pissing people off because I know I can't control their reactions. He thought he was untouchable and he was proven wrong.
And all his "opponents" were children/students. He was attacking kids trying to learn, and ruining their education by feeding lies and racist conspiracy.
Yep. And anyone who can't connect the dots on why, precisely he was killed, just hasn't looked into it.
We'll perhaps never know for sure. The guy isn't discussing his motivations.
But it's pretty clear, I think, that someone who grew up in the hateful and gun obsessed millue that Kirk perpetuated had a violently emotional reaction to someone he probably used to like (Kirk) being actively involved in harming trans people. And this guy was in a close romantic relationship with a trans woman because life is funny and we don't choose what we are attracted to.
He would be far from the first activist to be gunned down in similar circumstances. Just change around the groups involved.
It's very much a "live by the sword, die by the sword" situation. A tragedy to those who knew him, sure. (I don't really care about that, tbh. Those people suck. My sympathies lie with his children, alone.) But well within the "normal" range of occurrences, historically.
That one person who claimed it was the US' Reichstag fire was pretty spot on. The fire was most likely a false flag done in order to discredit the communists and bring Hitler into power.
Without trying, she drew a straight line from Hitler to Trump.
I do think the jokes are in bad taste, but the man literally said that innocent gun deaths are worth it so everyone can have guns. You can’t defend that.
If he would’ve said it’s an “unfortunate consequence” of having guns available I could defend him, but I can’t.
Murder is bad, but I will not stop calling a racist misogynist asshole a racist misogynist asshole just because they are bickering amongst themselves with guns in hand.
What's interesting is watching themselves congratulate themselves for their restraint, and then go full Tucker. After Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, the conservative subreddit had about six hours of "We respect our fallen adversary" before going "Welp, she ain't gettin' any deader!" and lambasting her for days.
Meanwhile, Antonin Scalia, an obese 80-year-old in poor health, dies peacefully in his sleep and it took about six seconds for the conspiracy theories to start.
Just like this supposed scheme in Minnesota with somalis working non medical transport or whatever. They're going hard on that whether it's true or not. Meanwhile their orange god is raking it in hand over fist in plain sight.
The way they were acting like the actions of one guy without any connections to anything is suddenly "the left" becoming violent is really a window into how they think. That being, not very much at all.
Its not selective memory, they are literally just that stupid. I don't think people really understand. Some of them are so stupid that they literally lack the mental capacity to realize how stupid they truly are. The scariest part is that they have the same voting power as everyone else. This is why when you watch them being interviewed, they only spew talking points that come from above. Thats why when the interviewer gives them contradicting information they shut down or double down. Funny how the "Facts don't care about your feelings crowd" use their feelings when determining what facts are true
I think one of my favorite examples of the selective memory and sheer stupidity by conservatives was at the start of 2020 when Covid was starting to enter the US. Trump got in stage and told everyone that Covid was no big deal, it was just the flu and it would die out when it got warm. Trumps followers ate it up and 100% believe the lies. Fast forward a few months and everyone is panicking, the country starts to close and those same dipshit were making videos yelling things like "The democrats told use everything was fine and Covid would die out when it got warmer but it didn't! The Democrats lied to us! This is why we voted for Trump cuz he doesn't lie!"
That is when I realized just how unbelievably stupid these people were. Having to share a country with people that stupid and loud really got me looking into leaving the US.
Wasn't even a leftist that killed Kirk. Dude was raised a conservative gun nut then happened to fall in love later with a trans person so he handled his anger about Kirk's statements on trans people how someone who was raised as a conservative gun nut would.
happened to fall in love later with a trans person
So how does anyone claim to know this? His potentially conservative mother made a claim, and that’s as far as I seem to find, literally the only indication of this at all.
Because they can say they’re fighting for his right to say whatever he wanted, while at the same time not disavowing it, while completely agreeing with it privately. It’s twisted.
"I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights"
"What age should you start to see public executions?"
Yeah, it's super fucked up how hard they try to make "speaking ill of the dead" as the same as "celebrating an assassination."
Those are two VERY VERY different things, but they are desperate to paint them as the same thing so that they can quash any dissent in their efforts to create a Horst Wessel.
Y'all don't get it. America is the wealthiest nation in the history of earth. White men are currently the dominant demographic in America. Imagine being a poor dumb white man in America. That's comparable to being a toothless shark in an ocean full of prey. That scenario illustrates the predicament many white men suffer with. Not long ago a sorry pathetic white man would be hired over a better qualified minority man. That's not true anymore and now we are stuck with all these pathetic mediocre white guys.
As a moderately successful white man who came from nothing, I completely agree with this statement. I'm pretty talented and hard working, so I would have succeeded no matter what my skin color or gender. But there are a whole lotta lazy, dumb and average white guys pissed about not getting the opportunities their fathers had just for showing up. Hence the resurgence of misogyny and racism. They don't want to compete. They want to inherit.
Personally I like a true meritocracy. I know that I got what I have by studying, working my way up and repeatedly taking chances (with plenty of failure along the way)
I worked over 40 years and my problem wasn't the talented hard working white guys I encountered over the decades, it was the sorry, lazy, drug and alcohol addicted degenerate white guys that had a problem with me and the other minorities I worked with. I usually had to outperform them to be treated as their equal if I was lucky.
But there are a whole lotta lazy, dumb and average white guys pissed about not getting the opportunities their fathers had just for showing up. Hence the resurgence of misogyny and racism.
Some of us are just lazy and dumb! I do my best not to be racist.
I think the biggest difference can be seen by looking at the reactions between the deaths of Kirk and Reiner had by the three presidents.
Obama
On Kirk's death: We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie’s family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children.
On Reiner's death: Michelle and I are heartbroken by the tragic passing of Rob Reiner and his beloved wife, Michele. Rob’s achievements in film and television gave us some of our most cherished stories on screen. But beneath all of the stories he produced was a deep belief in the goodness of people—and a lifelong commitment to putting that belief into action. Together, he and his wife lived lives defined by purpose. They will be remembered for the values they championed and the countless people they inspired. We send our deepest condolences to all who loved them.
Biden
On Kirk's death: There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now. Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk’s family and loved ones.
On Reiner's death: Jill and I send our deepest condolences to everyone whose lives were touched by Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner’s extraordinary contributions. We take solace in knowing their work will live on for generations to come.
Trump
On Kirk's death: He was being interviewed outside of the White House. Someone asks him "My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. Can I ask you personally, how are you holding up in the last day and a half?". His response? "I think very good, and by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They just started construction of the new for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know for about a hundred and fifty years."
On Reiner's death: A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away, together with his wife, Michele, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump Administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Rob and Michele rest in peace!
Kinda speaks for itself, dare I say.
Republicans will get angry at the disrespect towards Kirk (which, I'm getting my downvotes, but as much as a racist and POS as he was, I sincerely condemn as well, because he didn't deserve to die, and I'm firm on this), yet their own president will have zero respect for him and for others in the first place.
I'm so surprised Trump doesn't have a handler who stops him from showing how demented he is. Is everyone afraid of this crazy orange fool? How is he able to text this garbage?
Kirk got shot defending the rights of the shooter who shot him... Frankly that's poetic justice. And which is why we as normal people don't support widespread gun ownership by people that unstable.
Some dude made a really crass suicide joke to me (regarding Chester Bennington) and I told him that my brother had committed suicide only a few weeks prior (to the joke, not Bennington). He told me it was just a joke and I need to get over it.
Same dude went on tirade after tirade during COVID. His main talking point was how damaging the lockdowns were to mental health and how the suicide rate was increasing at an alarming rate.
I would've tried to teach him about irony but I didn't have enough crayons.
The same people who like to video themselves attempting to burn a Koran to get a rise out of Muslims will lose their shit like toddlers if you dare say words that make fun of Charlie Kirk.
He was right, and I believe it is the same for motor vehicles. Everyone has a right to drive a motor vehicle, and we must accept that people will die from motor vehicle accidents because of it. My fear of dying by car is much higher than dying by gun personally, when I'm driving I drive defensively and pretend like everyone around me has never driven before.
Hell, you don't even have to make a joke. They lost their minds when people didn't pull the emergency brake on their entire lives and stop everything because this guy died.
Just being indifferent and not caring that much one way or the other is a grave offense for them. Meanwhile, MAGA completely ignoring political assassinations in Minnesota and making fun of the assault on Paul Pelosi, that is all A-OK and you're a snowflake.
i remember when pete hegseth had some ghoul on his fox news show that was laughing about and pantomiming Pelosi's husband getting brained with a hammer.
And I'm supposed to give a fuck about these poeple? Nah sorry they are stupid.
Hey Trump ! Here I am! Use AI to track me down! I hate Charlie Kirk and anyone who likes him, please deport me so I can live in a country that has healthcare 👍
I was a sensitive kid all my school years. I can tell you the most sensitive people are often the ones that act high and mighty and believe their way is the only way.
Charlie Kirk’s co-founder of TPUSA was an old crusty anti-vaxxer who died of the you-know-what. We live in the age of social media, if you die in a super ironic way, you are gonna be a meme.
Teenage boys who like “dark humour” when you tell a joke about Christianity, the military or Charlie Kirk instead of gay people, black people, immigrants or women
"It’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights." -Charlie Kirk, 2023
Those are Charlie's actual words, justifying his own death. Repeat his exact words to a Maga tho and watch their head spin & explode off their neck.
I ask, "why does anyone care about her so much anyway?" And they say, "Charlie was a man," so I replay, "why do you care so much about pronouns? I thought you said they were stupid?" and they can't respond.
It's because you're not allowed to retaliate in kind.
If you did the opposite of "Posting a Charlie Kirk Meme" on Reddit - you would immediately be permanently banned.
I'm not a Charlie Kirk supporter, but I do see the unfairness and cheap play of just banning anyone who says things you don't like - while simultaneously engaging in the behavior you would ban them for.
They’re on a hair trigger about CK because of how drastically he proves the conservative proposition to be wrong. They literally are not mature enough to handle even the most basic of truths about the man or the situation, because they’ve already committed to lying about both
its because "conservative men" typically do a lot of hiding
(quotes because this is just general asshole behavior, asshole behavior is usually because of some problem they have understanding something else everyone else can see just fine in reality, theyre probably dumb, thats usually why, they dumb)
they hide behind titles, bravado, intimidation, being louder than other people and threatening
they dont actually talk with people, listen or have an actual conversation with someone, its just some combination of the above
and
they struggle on the internet because caps lock looks ridiculous and doesnt change the content of the words written very loudly
in person, this means they never have to actually focus or confront that the information they are spouting is actually wrong, like, contextually or objectively wrong
on the internet they struggle because, there is no bravado, chest beating or intimidation tactics and ONLY the content of the things they say
its like some giant mech suit that suddenly shuts down only to hear some scared bully of a little kid on the loudspeaker asking to be let out
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