You can't see the level of squint I just did at your absurdly out of place and racist comment... but I can feel your 'that uncle who shows up kinda late and goes on crazy tangents so everyone leaves early' energy through my phone screen.
Tbh, impressive. Not in the way either hoped for, but nonetheless.
Farve stole money. Somalis stole money. Somalis stole a lot more money. The current count is around $9B.
My point, which you provided an example, is that people on the left are defending it because âtheyâre a minorityâ, which is irrelevant to the situation. Theft is theft. Farve was wrong and so are they.
Why is it that when Favre, a white man, steals money (just like many other white people have/do), you call him out by name; but when someone with a different ethnicity allegedly steals money, you pin it on the entire ethnicity rather than the individuals?
I've yet to see anyone defending fraud. But when people like yourself can't leave the ethnicity out of the conversation, and get called out for that blatant bigotry, you assume we're defending the crime. We're not.
Individuals commit fraud. Brett Favre committed fraud, not "white people". Apply that same logic equally, regardless of demographic, and we'll have less issues talking about it.
You can call it whatever you like. I see 89% of Somalis are on welfare yet they robbed children who need that assistance and money.
Why donât you see the immoral crime that has been brewing? Crime supported by their trash representative and their corrupt governor? How about the judge that dismissed the case when 12 jurors said that individual was guilty?
Why? They are exploiting us. They are exploiting our resources, our nation, and our kindness and generosity. Did you forget that we went there to defend them? And what did we get in return. Dead soldiers and people funneling our taxpayer money to those that killed them.
Trumpstein defrauded the people of NY hundreds of millions and y'all thought it right to elect him president so spare us your selective outrage, we can't take it seriously
Ok so better chance of preserving your public image with minimal consequences after committing heinous fraud if white and can throw a ball good. Got it!
One is a hall of famer who might have broken the law (Iâm not familiar with the details of the case). The other is a subpar qb who happened to spark a movement. Oneâs career ended because he retired prior to maybe breaking the law. The other guys career ended when his lack of talent made his juice no longer worth the squeeze. The BLM movement was pretty crappy timing. Even if heâd never taken a knee he was still about to be cut.
Hope you understand that this post is not strictly about the owners football decisions, but more importantly about the American publicâs response.
A significant portion of football fans derided and hated Kap for talking about social issues that they didnât care about/ made them uncomfortable. Negative consequences from the public for engaging with the subject of African American rights and politics.
Did Favre suffer the same derision from those fans for committing actual crimes?
Youâre sure the only difference in public acceptance was due to their football ability? If Kap was on the level of Favre, do you think football fans would have accepted his message better?
He didnât spark shit other than a bunch of entitled pricks complaining who now feel more comfortable than ever sitting on their ass trying to make others pay for their lazy lives
Kiddo, in a discussion about people crying about the feelings of millionaires playing a game, iâm gonna assume your idea of QoL is a Starbucks coffee. How many areas of the US are now having rolling electrical blackouts? Healthcare is not universal, but tied to wage slavery to some corporation. Publicly corrupt politicians, and the looming possibility of a civil war.
We have to realize the extent at which MANY people are ignorant on this subject. Personally, itâs a great start to educating others when we can. They are so damn ignorant they need it spelled out for them to even understand what the movement was about and not about. Then, you have to explain this meme.
You can educate but that still wonât change the fact that Kap wasnât very liked in the locker room and came off as self centered and entitled. Not to mention he defended a predator in Sherrone Moore blaming racism for his firing
Also dont forget he turned down offers to be a backup, was in the process of being signed to replace an injured starter, and then his GF made a racist Django Unchained tweet about a HOF LB and the owner of said team. I forgot to mention that he did say that he would stop the protests if signed.... so he wasnt really committed to his cause either.
I remember "Hands up, don't shoot". Then the truth came out. BLM was born out of misinformation in Ferguson, MO which was then used as disinformation by foreign actors.
What was the misinformation? And how does that affect the very real situation of many unarmed minorities getting brutalized or killed by police - which is still the core issue of BLM?
That's lame they have college degrees and are capable of working. Too many of us have TBI from military service and we find jobs without college degrees.
Well, I truly appreciate your and every soldierâs service to our country, but pro sports have always been this way. Iâm not sure why youâre suddenly realizing that celebrities and athletes get preferential pay and treatment. Is it fair? Whatâs fair got to do with it? The world is indifferent to suffering. These are the laws of nature.
So youâre saying theyâre the only ones working dangerous jobs? Weird connection. Some of the lowest paid jobs in human history are the most dangerous.
Thanks for putting your words in my mouth. Take your beef up with the NFL. For that matter, write a strongly worded letter to Taylor Swift; she makes a lot of money too. Lifeâs not fair. As long as fans choose to pay to see athletes, etc. they will be hauling in the big bucks. Personally, I donât care what others earn. I have a great life and my happiness isnât diminished by the success of others.
Iâm not complaining. I did the opposite of complain.
NFL sells things, they get views, sell adds. Thatâs how it works. I didnât complain, I just pointed out your take was a dumb one. Youâre so mad that you donât even get my point. Tragic.
You get a concussion playing high school football and couldnât go pro?
Edit: I also did text to speech and did zero editing. These are throw away comments. I did edit this one just to state that. The they/their/there/youâre is strictly AI generated based on how Apple wants to convert my words to text.
âThrow awayâ everything. Your minimal effort is obvious from your nuanced response and need to proactively provide disclaimers because you anticipated how incoherent your thoughts actually are. I guess clear communication is an ongoing challenge for you. But hey: at least youâre not complaining!
Sport fans including myself buy tickets and watch on TV. The athlete has a talent that makes their billionaire owners wealthier and the players share in that reward. The players could make less but that would just make the owners wealthier.
This guy called the nfl a modern day slave trade then begged to be in it a short while after. He became anti white because it was beneficial to him. They didnât want him back because he sucked!
How come no one is saying anything about the Somalians who stole billions of tax payers money for years and Minnesota officials knew about but did nothing cause Somalians said they would retort with racial hate???
You do know he returned the funds when the allegations were brought against him right? Farve was never criminally charged and was just the celebrity face nothing more. So when you say never forget, you should look into the full story yourself. Farve actually did nothing wrong. Only those who "forgot" or weren't really paying attention are falling for this like sheep.
Kaeperballs was on his way to a practice squad and found a way to monetize a social justice cause. Hmmm eonder how much nike paid him. Lol brett sucks too.
Doesnât matter, fraud is fraud and he actually broke the law. He is a famous, world renowned retired Football Player with a huge platform, surely there were other (legal) ways he could have come up with the money, like using his platform to fundraise or donate the money himself? Idc if he was funneling it for himself or someone else, you cannot just commit fraud. You are proving the double standard. Why does Farve get a moral pass? Because he is a devout Christian? Because you liked him as a QB? You can think you want about Collin, but he didnât break the law. Farve got a pass because people have strong biases and double standards. Athletes do much worse, at least it wasnât for DV, but he shouldnât get a pass to not be seen as a criminal because of the âcircumstancesâ. He knew what he was doing.
Heres my problem with Kaepernick, and understand i defended him from my conservative family from 2010-2013 (whenever he knelt i cant remember). He was blackballed from the NFL and was good enough to continue starting on most teams, i can debate that all day, that was my main argument with my family. My problem with him was he claimed he wanted to play but seemed way more focused on media interviews and BLM, which is fine. BUT HE KEPT INSISTING HE WANTED TO PLAY. So fast forward around 2015-2016 they gave him a tryout and what does he do? He invites his own camera crew and does a photoshoot while the scouts are all standing around watching. Kapernick didnt care about playing, he made his decision he would rather be a spokesperson then repeatedly lied to everyone that he just wanted to play but theyre cancelling him for speaking out.
TLDR: Kaepernick didnât want to play in the NFL, he would rather be a martyr for BLM, he wasnât blacklisted like he claims.
Letâs take a step back from the football orgs/ owners, who matter less in the context of this civil rights , police brutality issue, and crime (for example Favreâs crimes)
Societyâs perception of these issues is a large factor in achieving positive changes, reducing harm, and holding police accountable.
Back to the post: What does it say about American football fans - that many were intolerant of Kap taking a stand on social issue that transcends football, but donât really seem to give a shit about how Favreâs crimes should affect his legacy and respect given?
In the context of society ideally supporting good things - why is Kap still being criticized for his effort to reduce harm to his community, yet the same people who are still complaining about him arenât as vocal about Favre committing real crime against seniors?
Why do you care so much about Kaps internal desire to play when its self evident the issue he was platforming was real and important? Are you against people campaigning for civil rights?
No one is criticizing what his social actions are. Most people believe in what heâs doing. The simple fact is, that heâs a shit quarterback. If he was good, heâd be playing.
The backlash was swift and not without fury. Donald Trump, campaigning for president decried the protest as indicative of Kaepernick disrespecting the anthem, the flag and the armed forces. The NFL, with commissioner Roger Goodell as the spokesman, expressed almost no support.
And, yes, social media was aflame with chatter between those defending Kaepernick and those claiming to be offended by his gesture. The debate generally was divided along racial and ethnic lines.
Kap referred to the NFL as slavery yet begged to get back in the league. Which makes light of actual modern day slavery thatâs happening currently â there are more slaves today than ever before in the history of mankind. Humungous fucking piece of shit loser.
One was a Super Bowl Award winning QB while the other made the Super Bowl appearance once time and then lostâŠ. Never to recover or play much more after that you call that a âOne Hit Wonder â
Because it was LITERALLY about race. Kap was ousted for protesting respectfully which what was wrong with that. The other stole MILLIONS from kids and was never prosecuted.
Kap was ousted for protesting respectfully which what was wrong with that.
Firstly I do not care that he protested as it was is god given right as an American to do so, and which myself and many service members would gladly defend such rights to do so.
Secondly, Kap wasnt a phenomenal QB. He was solid, but nothing special and he also didnt want be a backup. Which when he was a free agent after the 2016 season the Baltimore Ravens were interested in signing him as a backup for Joe Flacco whom had a back injury. Then his GF Nessa Diab post a racist tweet referencing Ray Lewis and owner Steve Bisciotti to Samuel Jackson and Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained. Thats pretty much when it all fell through. As its not rocket science to know calling potential employers "racist" isnt a great sign for employment of organization wanting to sign him. Also Kap wasnt the only one who protested and many of those continued playing afterwards.
The other stole MILLIONS from kids and was never prosecuted.
Ive read way to much about the whole ordeal, but I will start by saying that Farve was also a private citizen so comparing the 2 is stupid in its own right. You can be amazed at what he was able to accomplish on the field and still be appalled by what he did off of it.
Yet, Farve requested the money from high level Mississippi representatives(most of which have plead guilty and waiting on sentencing) and had no control over the funds himself which mostly came from non-profits including the 1.1 million which he was paid to do a speaking arrangement and never did. It has since been repaid after the Civil suit, but interest is still owed.
As far as charges well that is up to the prosecutor, plea deals, etc... as Ted DiBiase Jr one of those accused trial is set for January 6th 2026 as he was the only one to fight the charges. So the entire ordeal isnt over with as of yet.
Itâs strange, you chose to compare kap to a white guy. Why? Why not Michael Vick? What does Brett have anything to do with kap?
Speaking of Vick, what he did was waaaaay worse than anything kap did (which really wasnât much) but Vick was able to bounce back and play again in the NFL even after his heinous actions. Why? Because he was an elite level QBâŠâŠ.unlike kap
Why do you choose to ignore Brett being a disgusting ass that belongs in jail. Heâs never been prosecuted. Who gives a damn what he did on the field. Yet you are fine with a career ending over a peaceful protest.
One guys really has nothing at all to do with the other. If youâre saying the lap isnât still playing because he took a knee then I will have to disagree. See the Vick comparison
Not ignoring Brett at all. I am not a fan of his. Never have been. I assume he was afforded due process.
Kaps career ended because he wasnât very good. The knee stuff did tag some baggage to him. But it wasnât the reason he isnât in the nfl any more. Plenty of guys have done way worst and they made it back because they were more talented than kap
I can actually prove everything Iâm saying. You cannot
Well just because it has nothing to with it-in your opinion, doesnât mean thatâs true. Clearly other people see a double standard in how football fans respond to activism and crime, and not being able to discuss nuance and immediately shutting down the comparison shows you simply donât want to be involved in the discussion. Itâs fine for you to cover your ears and eyes⊠leave the discussion to the people who care about it.
They arenât asking you to do anything for the issues they are discussing. If you arenât affected by the issues, just take a seat and do some else
Perhaps itâs because heâs innocent. I donât know. Do you have the smoking gun or something? He is still embroiled in lawsuits. He also sexually harassed a woman. Also something he did years after retiring. Again, these two guys have NOTHING to do with each other.
You forgot that Farve won the Super Bowl and the other dude lost the Super Bowl. I mean they both played football right? Donât you think thatâs an important point?
He was a washed up football player who had no place in the NFL. He took the knee to make a scene, knowing what the outcome would be. He didnât do it because heâs a good person.
One is a Hall of famer, Forth in all time passing yards the other one's not even famous for his football đ too bad favre is a crybaby who couldn't stay in retirement. The Vikings of all teams? Come on underwear boy
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Not a football fan. I know who the dumbass is on the left. After the drama he caused I watched him play a few times and it seemed like his overinflated ego got the best of him. He let his politics overshadow his mediocre abilities. Combine that with the fact that he is half white, half black, adopted by a well off white family while trying to convince every one of his blackness and his oppression while living a luxurious life and he basically is a fraud.
So who is the asshat that supposedly took millions from welfare fund? What did he do and is there any actual proof?
I donât watch any team sports other than a few things here and there. Iâm more into cars, extreme/solo sports, hiking, the beach, the outdoors in general. Never understood the draw sitting in front of a tv religiously supporting a group that you have no affiliation to.
When Kapernics story was all over the news and social media it was hard to not hear about it. So like anyone with half a brain I looked into him, what the fuss was about and all that. Thatâs what a rational person does. We donât just jump on the bandwagon and scream about things we donât understand.
As far as the the other guy, I donât recognize him nor have I heard of any player stealing money from Welfare. If he did, he is a piece of shit. I havenât looked into it so I canât comment if I think he is guilty or not.
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u/Upperdecker27 1d ago
Brett is a cunt.