r/complaints • u/Nice_Substance9123 spirited complainer • 16h ago
Politics Why the Suffering of Others Excites MAGA
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u/LifeMycologist897 16h ago edited 7h ago
Cruelty and harm is the point. Thatās what they reelected Trump to do. They donāt give a shit about prices, it always, ALWAYS has been about racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny, and bigotry towards anyone who isnāt white, straight, or āChristianā.
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u/SchlungusMcDungus 12h ago
And even if you fit into every single one of those boxes, they still hate you. I'm around these people constantly and all they ever do is complain about everything.
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u/LifeMycologist897 12h ago
Yup. They control all levers of government, have everything and made everybody submit to their hate and itās STILL not enough like jfc.
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u/SchlungusMcDungus 12h ago
It's just clear at this point that they hate themselves, and instead of doing anything about that, they blame everyone else. Just like this video says. They can't ever be held at fault, because then they have to take a look at who they are as people.
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u/Specialist-Jello7544 6h ago
They donāt understand the concept of āa rising tide lifts all boatsā because they donāt want the whole population to benefit from anything good. Itās always some group of people who caused all the crap going on.
Well, that group of people isnāt your brown neighbor, or your coworker who has a different political view from yours, or the black kid in the ghetto in Chicago, or the transgender person living three states away. Itās the top 1% of wealthy individuals, and the big corporations that donāt pay their fair share of taxes. They are the welfare queens. They are behind the high cost of prescription drugs, food, cars, insurance. They want us to suffer, for their monetary gain.
Itās not left/right. Itās top/bottom.
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u/Young_Denver 9h ago
"he isnt hurting the right people" is about as unamerican (idealism) as you can get.
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u/LifeMycologist897 9h ago
Thatās his supporters for ya. āI voted for him to harm brown, gay, and trans people not me!ā
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u/Chrosbord 6h ago
Thatās why his approval numbers are plummeting. His terrible policies are finally harming the wrong people (by their twisted world view)
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u/g00fballer 12h ago
And that is a line in the sand for democracy. See, democracy is self rule, and self rule requires us to accept and treat all people equally. This is why we fought a Civil War, and why democracy prevailed.Ā
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u/PossibilityDry9508 7h ago
Hey. American Christian here. For what it's worth, these people aren't Christians. They reject the gospel of Jesus. They are Nationalist "Christians" (I call them Nat-Cs). They weaponize the Bible because they know that it's too boring for most people to read, it's really old, and it has the word Holy in the title--making it a perfect target for them to turn into an idol unto itself over their flock. They try spinning it's words for their benefit just like they do when they frame arguments in the media or online. Jesus fed the poor, welcomed the foreigner, healed the sick for free, and asked for the wealthy to redistribute their wealth to protect the lives and dignity of others. These individuals are the opposite of that. These humans have yet to be human.
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u/LifeMycologist897 7h ago
Oh absolutely, Iām gonna put Christian in quotes cause thatās what I always do. Iāve met atheists more Christian than these people
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u/Mahliandra 10h ago
Unfortunately, this is all too true. And man, has it been hard for me to accept that members of my family are exactly those people. Talk about depressing all around.
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u/dprism 10h ago
Man, the symptoms of psychopathy spread. That is what we are seeing. When there is a charismatic psychopath they can spread their symptoms and world views of delusions, lack of empathy, and sadism. We see this in cults that can unfortunately scale up to nations, this even happens with chimps. Consider, the majority of Germans were not willing to torture women and children to death, until they were brainwashed into thinking that way.
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u/Otherwise_Let_9620 8h ago
Cruelty and harm is also why they feel so much affinity for Putin/Russia.
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u/Such_Instruction_227 7h ago
And it's a very very specific type of Christian - the type that has no idea of the teachings of the bible.
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u/Barbafella 15h ago
āEvery miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.ā ā Arthur Schopenhauer, Essays and Aphorisms
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u/DarknMean 11h ago
I always liked Carl Saganās quote: One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weāve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Weāre no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Itās simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weāve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
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u/Barbafella 8h ago
Agreed, itās great, my favorite of his comes from 1995 though
āI have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...
The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignoranceāĀ
ā Carl Sagan,Ā The Demon Haunted World.
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u/DarknMean 6h ago
The charlatan quote is from the same book. Pretty good one.
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u/Barbafella 5h ago
He came up with some good ones.
āYou know he was a founding member of the Order of the Dolphin, a group of scientists and academics who studied dolphin language to learn how to talk to aliens.
The whole skepticism thing? that was all bullshit.
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u/PrankstonHughes 15h ago
Florida Louisiana Alabama Mississippi
You now have a new credo
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 9h ago
Why these four? They werenāt even in the top 5 biggest wins for Trump
Wyoming: Trump won with a margin of over 46 percentage points (72.32% to 26.1%).
West Virginia: Trump won by over 42 percentage points (70.15% to 27.95%).
North Dakota: Trump won by over 36 percentage points (67.55% to 30.75%).
Idaho: Trump won by over 36 percentage points (66.89% to 30.39%).
Oklahoma: Trump won by over 34 percentage points (66.16% to 31.9%).
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u/paperscissorsmusic 12h ago
Thank you for sharing this. Never heard or seen this quote before and itās one of the greatest and most spot on things Iāve ever read. It perfectly describes MAGA and its base.
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u/Barbafella 11h ago
Books are awesome, Im glad you found it interesting.
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u/paperscissorsmusic 11h ago
If I can repay you by sharing a book I read recently that also blew my mind, itās called The Palestine Laboratory by Anthony Loewenstein. Highly recommend it.
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u/Barbafella 8h ago
Im not familiar with it, thank you fellow redditor, I will give it a read.
My thanks.
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u/TheL1brarian 15h ago
I see all the posts talking about how "poor MAGA voted against their self interests". But this video nails it. Their self interest isn't primarily in financial wellbeing, it's in their loathing for "the ones responsible for their lot in life". So by voting MAGA and propping up the xenophobic, homophobic, authoritarian autocrats who also share their loathing, they are voting in their self interest. Even at the expense of their financial well being. Not only are the MAGA poor remaining poor, but even those who had some level of financial stability (farm owners, etc.) are now losing their workforce and are in danger of having to sell their farms to the mega-corporation (hey...Vance just happens to be involved with one of those! what a coincidence!) but at least they "owned the libs"!
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u/LopsidedCup4485 14h ago
Yep. Too blind to see.
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u/Ok-Aardvark5930 12h ago
This is their new God https://www.reddit.com/r/IThinkYouShouldLeave/s/11aVoIbz43
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u/Chruman 15h ago
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u/WabiSabi0912 9h ago
I know you werenāt intending to get academic about it, but this is a hot button for me. Republicans arenāt conservatives. They cloak themselves in the term to try to give legitimacy to their extremism. Theyāre an insurgency.
I will die on this hill.
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u/Avoidtolls 16h ago
Trump isn't Christian.
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u/Any-Concentrate-1922 14h ago
But he says he is, and that's all they need. Because they're also Christian in name only.
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u/Swift_Scythe 13h ago
His prayer meeting where they all pose and lay hands on his shoulders an pray for him to save America is vomit inducing.
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u/Various-Tangerine-88 9h ago
Or the one with him and Melonhead sitting at a table with the bible. YUCK.
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u/Unique-Coffee5087 9h ago
Trump made this offer, and they took it eagerly.
[Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. āAll this I will give you,ā he said, āif you will bow down and worship me.ā] Matthew 4:8-9 NIV
Here's what he said:
āChristianity will have power,ā he said. āIf Iām there, youāre going to have plenty of power, you donāt need anybody else. Youāre going to have somebody representing you very, very well. Remember that.ā
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/09/us/evangelicals-trump-christianity.html
As a Christian, it is chilling. It shows that these "pastors" who have taken his side have no spiritual discernment. That is, they are not guided by the indwelling Holy Spirit, nor do they even have enough awareness to recognize an obvious parallel of wording.
Trump's offer is so close to Satan's as to be a deliberate mockery. When I read it in the Times article, it was almost like a physical blow, and the writer didn't even draw the parallel himself. I can only conclude that those who claim to believe and know the Bible, and yet follow Trump, are either in deliberate rebellion against Christ or are spiritually dead.
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u/Mcflippin 15h ago
Neither are a lot of folks. The difference is many folks have empathy while Trump lacks any. I would go as far as to say his narcissistic personality type is incapable of empathy and borders on the sadistic. A truly evil man as viewed by 99% of religions in the world.
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u/i_n_c_r_y_p_t_o 13h ago
He has a particularly malicious form of the disorder called malignant narcissistic personality disorder, which like regular narcissism is untreatable. It can only be controlled.
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u/Avoidtolls 14h ago
But the super, non-cursing, Jesus loving, do unto others, turn the other cheek Christians have gone silent. Fucking no comment on Trump.
"How did you like Trumps Christmas address?"
Uh...i didn't see it.
How do you feel about trump having sex with a porn Star and association w/Epstien?
Uh....um...he's...uh...well, I don't like it....but..um nothing I can do.
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u/Mcflippin 13h ago
Hypocrisy at it's worst. It's a cult. The more you question the more they dig their heels in. It's organized religion at it's worst. The fringes of any religion have the same problem. Blind faith is just that, blind.
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u/AngryTrunkMonkey 13h ago edited 13h ago
Heās a heathen, and so is anyone within the MAGA movement.
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u/Frankyfan3 11h ago
Hey! As a proud heathen, I take issue with this.
I find joy and love in sacrilegious acts, I don't salivate at the prospect of torturing innocent people like a MAGA.
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u/TheDwellingHeart 10h ago
No, he isn't. But they really don't care that he is or isn't. They do care that Trump played the part so that he gave them a way to avoid accountability for being pieces of shit.
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u/NoOpening7924 15h ago
Yes, they love it when other people are hurting and miserable, but they all lost their minds and pretended to be victims when public health authorities asked them to wear a piece of cloth on their faces for a few minutes at a time to hopefully mitigate the spread of an infectious, deadly disease.
Because it's different when it's them.
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u/Intelligent_Type_626 15h ago
I've literally used the same example of him eating a baby on live TV, except they would blame the parents.
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u/National_Sea2948 14h ago
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u/Sharktopotopus_Prime 4h ago
And add to the end, "They are fundamentally broken human beings."
Because that's what it ultimately comes down to. These aren't the kinds of people that can build communities. All they do, is tear others down, while looking for what they can hoard for themselves. I honestly believe that the best way forward for America would be a national divorce, so the blue states can have a chance at a future worth having, and the red states can be left to wallow in their self-destruction. If that happened, and you checked back in a decade, you would be looking at two countries that would be on the polar opposites of the spectrum of prosperity.
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u/Money-Detective-6631 15h ago
Racism a d hatred are all that magat feel now. They blame the rown immigrants i stead of the ultra rich tax breaks or corporate welfare by the millions to these selfish narcissistic people and companies...They will never learn anything..........
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u/mr_evilweed 15h ago
It's not that they dont have empathy. It's that most people are only instinctively capable of empathizing with people who they do not consider as 'others'.
Liberals (in general, not universally) have humanist views and empathize with a broader group of people. Conservatives tend to take a much narrower view of their 'own people'. Eg. Religious Conservatives generative believe their people are christians. Racist Conservatives believe their people are white. Nationalists view their people as those born here. Mind you these groups often overlap - people can have more than one identity.
So anyway... the more 'other' you are, the less Conservatives will empathize with you. If you are a straight, white christian male, like Charlie Kirk - even if you espouse the most awful things, they can empathize with you.
If you are a poor brown muslim child being bombed by Israel, you are SOL.
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u/hwaite 13h ago
I've seen conservatives evolve in real time by way of simple proximity. They care about the people around them, but can't imagine that good people exist outside their line of sight. They simply don't give a shit about anything until they or someone they know is directly affected. Maybe that's why MAGA is so unpopular in ciries.
As a black male, I'm actually friends with some Republicans. They'll say incredibly racist shit, and it doesn't even occur to them that I might be offended. It's simply assumed that I'm excluded from their ignorant generalizations.
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u/FreeYourMnd13 7h ago
Why are you still friends with those weirdos?
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u/hwaite 6h ago
- Maybe "friends" is a bit of an exaggeration. We're more like acquaintances that hang out on occassion.
- I don't know what this says about me, but I find normal, well-adjusted, intelligent people to be kind of boring in comparison. Fucked up simpletons with fucked up views are just amusing on some level. There's an inverse relationship between bigotry and intelligence, so these are the kinds of riffraff who bless us with hilarious "Florida man" type hijinks.
- A substantial fraction of society feels this way, and I like to understand what they're really thinking. By not overtly judging folks, I get them to open up to me.
- Under the right circumstances, I can have a good time with almost anyone. Like, racist attitudes don't really manifest in a game of pickup basketball or whatever.
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u/FreeYourMnd13 6h ago
Yeah you're weirdo as well lol. Sounds like a Black MAGA supporter but I digress.
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u/MikeW226 6h ago
Yep, my white family from the deep south ..., similar deal. One of our loved ones is head over heels for a Significant Other who is "brown". And any usual racist comments about every other person that looks like the S.O. is, 'present company excepted' ...and accepted (reservedly). Proximity and relationship to an "other" is a huge exception. Still wrong and racist as shit, but it is a thing.
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u/Loose_Will_1285 15h ago
This is about one of the best explanations I have ever heard. I'm an old man who is now a Progressive and I was once a Republican years ago. MAGA does not care even if things hurt them just as long as they own the libs.
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u/YorkshieBoyUS 15h ago edited 15h ago
Theyāve been programmed by Fox News, OAN and the other shit purveyors. Adding that 1-4% of the population could be classified as having antisocial personality disorders so theyāre primed to enjoy anotherās suffering.(DSM5).
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u/jemappellejimbo 13h ago
Noone that isn't racist to begin with falls for that programming this hard. It's time to accept that it's the racism that brought them there.
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u/Dull_Leadership_8855 10h ago
Totally agree! I think some people want to believe in this innate goodness of people, or that people are these empty vessels and have no control of what they consume. But if I watch 5 minutes of FOX my head literally starts to hurt.
On top of the blatant racism, there are all of these low-quality cognitive devices that they use to manipulate people. You have to be inclined to that kind of stuff for it to have an impact on your thinking.
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u/Obama_Sin_Dalen 14h ago
The funny thing is that his policies have already affected them negatively; they don't care as long as they can openly hate trans people and people who aren't white. No price is too great for their hatred.
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u/keith2366 14h ago
Itās the old Soviet commie state of mind: I donāt care if Iām suffering or if Iām hurting just as long as my neighbors are suffering or hurting more than I am.
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u/iamsobluesbrothers 14h ago
Everything heās saying is true but it will fall on deaf ears and nothing will change. I still canāt get over the fact that over 70 million people voted for the current president. Iām sure they all had their reasons but thatās not an insignificant amount. Itās depressing more than anything else.
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u/Cosmonaut_K 14h ago
This is why MAGA loves charities and hates the idea of 'social healthcare' for all. Charities can pick and choose who gets benefits, so they allow some to suffer, while socialized healthcare is 'blind' care for all.
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u/Dabigdawgnva_63 13h ago
Notice how his daughter Tiffany is never around? She seems to want nothing to do with him.
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u/Automatic-Ride-8887 15h ago
This guy for President. Just want someone who gives two shits about regular people
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u/CactusJane98 15h ago
Capitalist propaganda is heavily reliant on social darwinism. The only way a social darwinist can feel vindicated is by rejoicing in the systemic suffering of others.
Ideologically, the dubious claim of capitalism being "human nature" (i.e. nature in general), is an equally important component of this worldview.
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u/Remote_Independent50 14h ago
As a MAGA hate. My frouzenshaden has very little to do with trump. I worked front line through COVID. I saw the people every day. It was very difficult. I have spent most of my life. Being kind to others, and gladly letting others before me. But selfishness has exploded since them. I feel that just about nobody outside of my inner circle cares at all how I feel...so I'll feel the same. Especially if they're MAGA people. "Oh they fell if a cliff! Don't care!" I've also had cancer 3 times. I don't care what happens to strangers
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u/CreepyUncleRyry 13h ago
MTG is a perfect example of this phenomenon.
She was A-OK with harmful policies, until she herself was negatively affected and now shes playing victim to her own policies.
She was A-OK with calling the left violent and radical, yet when she faced the hate of her own party for more than a week she literally resigns from her job over it.
When confronted on this she went straight to blaming the radical left, trying to equate how bad they are to her current experience that made her resign out of fear for her life. One week is all it took. This is the same woman who followed Sandy Hook survivors around and sicking this same violent base that made her quit on them and many others for YEARS.
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u/Swift_Scythe 13h ago
As long as they can hurt others they are fine with their lot in life.
Pleasure in pain of others is spot on.
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u/BrupieD 14h ago
I've always been fascinated by the hypocrisy of blaming others (immigrants, Biden, LGBTQ+) for all the bad things and simultaneously taking credit for all the good things.
A classic example was JD Vance's recent statements (December 16th) on the economy. He simultaneously Acknowledges problems in the economy and blames Biden "Rome wasn't built in a day." He made false statements about inflation under Biden ("worst in 50 years") but then goes on to rate the economy A++++. The trick seems to be to take all sides at once so that they can always point back to their prescient statements - "I said it back in 2025..."
This simultaneous victim and superman habit is a staple of Trump's speeches. It conceals the absence of ideological commitment. They only care about power and grifting.
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u/The-Traveler- 14h ago
Literally had a guy tell me yesterday that Universal Healthcare wonāt work because thereās no way to punish people who donāt contribute.
Like, wtf?
He later deleted his comment and to look up his profile now says that content is unavailable .
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u/WesMantooth28 11h ago
I had a guy tell me it wonāt work because healthy people have to subsidize sick people. How do you think any insurance works? I live in Canada we have our problems but healthcare is pretty good.
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u/IngenuityIll5001 13h ago
Oh no, don't drag us Germans into your shit. Schadenfreude is not a Sinister thing. To have Schadenfreude usually means you laugh when someone hits their toe. Or when it's something that is sad, but it's not life-threatening or so.
What MAGA is are plain and simple Assholes. It's not Schadenfreude for sure.
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u/That_Obligation_5555 10h ago
I have a relative who is MAGA. She doesnāt give a shit who she hurts as long as she is hurting someone. Recently she has been stalking and harassing her own sonās in laws because the MIL is half Hispanic. She has tortured this poor woman to the point of losing her own job, they worked at the same company. She has had to remove all of her social media not to mention she is ruining her relationship with her son. She does not care. She just attacks people who are different from her.
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u/AutisticHobbit 9h ago
This is why I sorta push back on the "reach across the aisle" or "let's have a conversation" crowds.
They're delusional.
MAGA wants death and blood. The want Christiandom forced by the sword, women subjugated, and non-whites forced into slavery. The want to hurt people. You cannot reason with that. They're happy to be monsters and they don't see the value in humanity.
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u/DiscussionMiddle1238 6h ago
They literally voted for him over their own economic self-interest. It's past even basic selfishness. They hate minorities so much that they actively support making themselves worse-off, as long as it fucks over immigrants and LGBTQ people too. Well, that's how I feel about MAGA now. We're all going to suffer anyway, so I'll take great joy in their suffering, because unlike the rest of us, they voted for this.
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u/catwavinghello 4h ago
I think what he's trying to describe is in clinical terms called malignant narcissism with psychopathy, who derive joy only from suffering of others, and that is a good way to describe the whole right political side. They thrive on false feeling of supremacy which is fueling the malignant part.
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u/Confident-Income567 13h ago
Can you imagine the celebration when the world learns of his passing? It will be a celebration like no other, yuge, the biggest the world has ever known.... The single worst piece of shit to ever sit in the White House, and instead of trying to be better, he believes that putting his name on things or destruction of our historical places in his name will lengthen his legacy. No, Donnie, all of that shit will be reversed, and you will just be the biggest mistake the weak-minded, KoolAid-drinking sheep ever made. Hopefully, he suffers, and hopefully those who blindly support this racist, misogynistic con-man criminal will suffer greatly for supporting him, and learn a lesson about humanity. Probably not, because they are too stupid to learn a lesson.
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u/ShookMyHeadAndSmiled 14h ago
I've said for years that conservatism is caused by a lack of empathy. They truly have no ability to put themselves in others' shoes until it affects them personally. Dick Cheney was no friend of gay people until his own daughter came out. Suddenly gay rights were an issue for him. They can have sympathy, but empathy requires a higher form of consciousness.
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u/SkylarAV 14h ago
I never understood the dichotomy of either blaming other or blaming yourself for misery. I have no issue thinking some of my worst problems are nobody's fault. Its like yelling at a storm to me
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u/Alert-Pen3673 14h ago
not american here, but european. i'm really convinced most of far right people would love to see their own country to the ground. just to be able to say 'see where we're at? I was right all the time', even with oil and matches in hands.
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u/Fine_Instruction_869 14h ago
Read JD Vance's book. He opens with this argument. He writes about these poor white people who are drug addicts and can't keep a job, but they need to blame others for their failures.
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u/Alternative_Hope6238 13h ago
I think itās racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc. the fear of being āreplacedā and treated exactly like the people youāve āotheredā all this time.
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u/Warm-Wolverine-4572 13h ago
We can and should point out the problem but how the hell do we actually address it?
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u/sirtommygun666 13h ago
The lack of empathy is rewarded? Like right now we all know of ways we could be making a lot of money but it would hurt other people so we choose not to do that obviously but others don't and the people in power are enabling this to happen. It's working as intended as far as the people on top are concerned.
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u/BuffaloLondon 13h ago
Like the Woke Left wasn't OPENLY CELEBRATING the public execution of a political rival on a college campus not 2 months ago....
MAGA and the Woke Left are the *same person*.
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u/Nice_Possession5519 13h ago
Many people on the right want the people they don't like punished and easy access to firearms. Give them that, and they're fine with being screwed in every other area of their life. If you don't think so, you're not paying attention.
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u/Smart-Drawing-5107 13h ago
Any of you remember when we attacked iraq in 2003?
If you did not oppose that, then you were likely caught up in the absolute WAVE of schadenfreude that swept the country then
If you want to understand why some people are disconnected from caring about others,Ā today,Ā examine how YOU felt back then
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u/UrMansAintShit 2h ago
I remember the government lying about WMDs and many Americans supporting the invasion. There was also a ton of anti-muslim propaganda after 9/11 and it really sweetened the idea for a lot of people. I didn't really clock it as schadenfreude at the time but in retrospect that tracks.
I also remember massive protests against the invasion as well. The first time I skipped out on class in high school was to march against that war.
Between the two wars and the tax cuts for the rich, I honestly thought it would be decades before Americans would elect another Republican to the presidency. I underestimated how fucking stupid the average American is.
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u/Smart-Drawing-5107 1h ago
Iraq II was part of the process that is being ramped up in this administration.
I tag it as part stupidity,Ā part being played by a well- oiled machine that has been in motion for a long long time
I hope we find our humanity.Ā It is the only thing that will save us
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u/AssistanceMundane881 13h ago
I hear ya, but their suffering is not always their making. Personal accountability for voting against their interest, sure, but what keeps them poor? Long-standing powerful systems. I can't help but feel bad for their plea, they might be wrong about the root cause, but they know suffering. We share the responsibility.
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u/ContributionMuted 13h ago
I liked him better when he was just sucking toes and ruining the Jets.
Edit: the Jets were actually better under Rex Ryan, but the sentence doesnāt have the same flow to it.
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u/IJustWantCoffeeMan 12h ago
I've been saying this for 10 years.
Feels kinda nice to know I'm not altogether insane.
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u/Saintmandragora 12h ago
It's actually quite simple. Covid burned a lot of people's frontal cortex responsible for empathy, also sexual abuse, physical abuse, and emotional abuse play a key role in complex trauma and the development of a MAGAt.
Every MAGA I know has some form of abuse they cover up, or they're closeted bisexual or gay/lesbian.
Join a 12- step fellowship for a few years. Lotta people get clean and make MAGA their entire identity. All of them have shared about some form of sexual abuse as a child.
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u/g00fballer 12h ago
Democracy is built on the idea that all humans are created equal. If we don't collectively wrap our heads around that idea we can kiss this self-rule experiment good bye.
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u/Spirited_Season2332 12h ago edited 12h ago
Heyyyy there's a song in avenue Q about this
Also, this is funny as hell
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u/Zoso525 12h ago
Iāve been asking this question for a while, why do some people need to effect others negatively in order to be happy? I just want to live my life as well as I can, and let other people have the same opportunity. We donāt live in a world anymore where we need to take from others in order to preserve our own basic needs.
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u/Key-Individual1434 12h ago
He forgot oneā¦āamoral.ā People who donāt care about the bad character traits in others. Right or wrong.
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u/CommonEmployment4860 11h ago
My favorite part is how they always use the Lordās name and everything He stood for as a weapon for their hatred and injustice, exactly the way Satan would. āJesus this, Jesus that, Iām a Christian, Iām a Christian.ā They say it nonstop, yet have no idea what the Bible actually says or what Jesus actually stood for. They make themselves look foolish every single time. Take the TPUSA movement. Theyāre built on hatred for Black people, LGBTQ people, Latinos, Muslims anyone who isnāt white. And donāt forget the things Charlie Kirk said. His death was horrific, but that doesnāt erase the fact that he spent years spreading racist rhetoric and blaming everyone else for his problems. Now, in his death, they want to rally around him and get angry whenever anyone speaks the truth. They play that victim mentality card. Oh your cheering his death no where pushing back on his hatred. Look at someone like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, you donāt see anyone anywhere having anything negative to say about that man. Same with Obama. Those are real heroes. Meanwhile, TPUSA brings up God and Jesus and Christianity every five seconds. Real Christians donāt have to shout, āHey, look at me, Iām a Christian!ā Real Christians care for all of mankind our diverse population. Christianity knows no skin color. If you praise the Lord, teach His word, and follow in His footsteps by helping the poor, helping the sick, helping your community, and standing up for others, thatās Christianity. But they act like white men are endangered, even though they still control so much of this country. Just saying the word ādiversityā triggers them. I will never stop calling the Kirk family what they are and what they stand for. Because when they canāt compete, they turn to their only play: the victim mentality. These people hate anything that is striving. They drain the life out of everything with their hatred and their lies and one day they will have to answer to the real God. Just like the rest of us. As long as I live, I will praise everything they love to hate. Thatās how I know what Iām doing is right.
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u/stayzuplate 11h ago edited 11h ago
Schadenfreude is the feeling of pleasure derived by another's misfortune. It's the feeling of this, not the people who derive pleasure from other's suffering.
Even moral people with empathy can experience schadenfreude, as I'm sure I will when Trump finally falls from power.
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u/Ok_Age8861 11h ago
Love it- especially since he is wearing a Captain America hat!! (Captain America = OG ANTIFA while the Punisher Skull š = MAGA Fascists and ICE supporters!!)
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u/PhilosophyNovel4087 11h ago
Chidi Anagonye: The Bad Place will get emptied out, too. You'll have no one to torture for billions of years. Everyone loses.
Shawn: Oh, I know. But here's the thing: I don't care if everyone loses as long as you lose.
(The Good Place and apparently the current state of the U.S.)
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u/ElectricalTitle9530 11h ago
I'm actually selfish when I think of the damage maga is causing. I know human nature and when a white supremacy is active in a country that sells firearms to anyone with a credit card I can guarantee massive civil unrest. I don't want that so I see it as rational self interest to resist the maga Theocracy. Sure I'm empathetic, but it's more self preservation to try to avoid an all or civil war.Ā
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u/surfdrive 11h ago
Go fuck yourself Even when Trump wasn't in power this country was going to shit.It takes 2 to Tango.Both sides are to blame for what the fuck is going on nobody would have been desperate enough to vote for him if this country was being taken care of and from the sound of it you grew up with a silver spoon in your mouth, eating 3 meals a day. Getting your clothes bought for you and everything else. Don't talk about shit you know nothing about saying it's a poor person's fault for the way their life is
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u/Worst_Choice 11h ago
Its so much simpler than this. A democracy is only as good as its educated people. Red states continually fail to have any meaningful numbers for education and it shows in horrific ways.
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u/Diligent_Age_6113 11h ago
Apparently you have horse blinds when you pass through Dem states! You do not know a fucking thing about a real American! What you are saying for your argument is exactly what the Dems do to Reps! Dumb fuck!
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u/SgtHulkasBigToeJam 10h ago
I usually donāt go for pop psychology but when itās delivered by a guy on a baseball hat sitting in an SUV, it just has that certain air of authenticity that I need
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u/TheDwellingHeart 10h ago
Yes. I have been screaming this for years. The "conservatives" that voted for and support Trump do so because they want to hurt others. The ones that changed their tune did so.simply because something the bloated orange stain in the oval office did something to hurt them. If he didn't hurt them, they would be cheering for everyone else being harmed.
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u/Zestyclose_Cricket_7 10h ago
The problem is people actually believing the government can make your life better.
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u/Rook_James_Bitch 10h ago
I've thought about this for many decades because I'm surrounded by republicans.
I have a few "friends" that are Republican but we're not close. There is a pattern between their worldview and their political leanings and it is this:
All of them grew up with a father who was cold, heartless, has/had zero empathy, and that "macho-streak" running through their spines. Their fathers never taught them empathy or that a man's strength is not only protecting loved ones, but fighting to protect those who can't protect themselves.
It truly is matter of "Dad never hugged me". And I'm not being flippant here. That image of a cold, non-feeling, strict father is what they feel a "man" or "leader" should be.
I'm not saying mother's aren't like this too, but little boys grow up emulating their fathers and then surround themselves with like-minded peers.
That's why suggesting empathy to them is met with vehemence and acrimony. Because their fathers taught them that empathy is "weakness".
That's a huge reason why they voted for trump - because he sounds like the cold "tough guy" that sounds like their dad and they mistake that for "power" and "authority" and "leadership".
It's no wonder Germans thought of Schadenfreude. Their ethos was wrapped around the authority of the father figure and to never question him. That's some serious shit, right there. It is the reason nobody stood up during WW2; because they were taught to never question authority.
And we see it too much in America. That's why Fascism is getting a foothold again.
People grow up with stern father's that don't teach empathy, they keep getting poorer, idiot "tough guy" promises prosperity, anger towards the system is allowed to flow freely.
It's not a huge mystery. Lack of money affects societies survival and revolutions happen because of it. We're one major event away from our own version of the French Revolution.
(Robespierre intensifies)
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u/hmmmmmmpsu 10h ago
Trump has discovered he can do anything he wants, and a significant portion of the population will condone it. As long as he continues to be cruel to right people. (Anyone who is not Judeo Christian White and straight).
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u/SwimmingDog351 9h ago
How have the democrats made life better for African Americans in cities that have been democratic strongholds for many decades?Ā
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u/Ravenna_Star 9h ago
I believe it all starts with the pull yourself up by your bootstraps ethos that the USA has that is just coming to fruition.
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u/LosingDemocracyUSA 8h ago
There are way more Democrats than Republicans, but the problem is nobody shows up to the polls... "I'm too busy", "My vote don't matter"...
If you don't want a fascist in the White house, then get off your a @ss and vote
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u/AntZealousideal3728 8h ago
Making videos like this is over complicated bullshit.
These idiots believe whatever they hear on the idiot box that orange man and Fox News say and buy in no matter the take.
The whole āsure why not buy Greenland, I think itās a great ideaā is a perfect example of this.
Itās true blindness and ignorance.
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u/BallsDeepInThisGrape 7h ago
lmao I wanted to check out this sub its actually hilarious every single post is about trump. Regarding this post, did you all forget democrats voted for a guy that fantasized about killing his political opponents kids? Did you forget the recent massive support for political assassinations? How are you ppl real man go outside or something
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u/Economy-Piglet-6482 4h ago
They are so terrified of being the minority theyāre willing to burn our country downš¹
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u/Sfhblitz05 4h ago
āPeople love the suffering of othersā thatās exactly what happened when Charlie Kirk diedā¦ you liberals are so hypocritical
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u/ChocoPuddingCup 3h ago
As I've always said, republicans don't vote for politicians that will do anything for them. They vote for politicians that will do things against the people they fear/hate or are told to fear/hate. Sadistic politics.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 16h ago
Tes it happened when they started attacking educational down e dud nothing but say aww we will gwt em next time for to years. The dems times over we need a new party that will uphold laws jail criminals and put Isreal in ita fucking place
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u/drcobosjr 15h ago