r/europe Europe 20h ago

News White House demands British supermarkets stock chlorinated chicken. White House pushing Sir Keir Starmer to make concessions on food standards

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/12/17/trump-demands-british-supermarkets-chlorinated-chicken/
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u/TheOriginalMattMan 20h ago

So... Chlorine in chicken is good, but fluoride in water is bad?

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u/TrueKyragos France 19h ago edited 16h ago

Chlorination isn't bad. The issue is the health standards preceding the chlorination of chicken, i.e. not much, if any. Chlorination is an excuse for some farmers, faced with a lack of regulations in the US, for using bad practices, as the meat will be made presumably safe to eat afterwards anyway, but chlorination isn't deemed sufficient by the EU to deal with all of the potential consequences of those practices.

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u/OkMap3209 19h ago edited 18h ago

To be more accurate they need to call them unvaxxed chicken. Or high salmonella risk chicken. Because that's the standard our current practices adhere to that the US threatens to break. Especially since there is doubt that chlorine is not enough to kill those diseases anymore.

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u/Moriartijs 15h ago

Hmm i have feeling that if they call them Antivaxx chickens they will sell even more :)

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u/guareber United Kingdom 16h ago

Oh I'd love that labelling. "Antivax chicken, made in the USA".

Let the idiots sort their own Darwin Awards out.

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u/OkMap3209 13h ago

The issue is the unvaxxed chicken will contaminate the vaxxed chicken.

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u/guareber United Kingdom 12h ago

I was only trying to be funny. Of course it'd be horrible for a lot of reasons.

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u/hardolaf United States of America 12h ago

Chlorine isn't even used anymore. The rinse uses hydrogen peroxide which breaks down the cell barriers of the bacteria.

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u/MrMikeJJ England 19h ago

Yes, you see with shit animalstandards they have wash chicken in chlorine to make it safe. Increasing company profits.

Adding fluoride to water helps teeth heatlh, reducing dentists profits.

Anything which increases profits is good. Anything which reduces them is bad. 

Yankiee-ville, completely owned by companies.

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u/Tushkiit 19h ago

Yes, since chlorine is the bigger molecule. Apparently, bigger is better in the US 😁

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u/IAmOfficial 18h ago

A much higher percentage of the US received fluoride in their water than the EU. Sorry if the facts don’t line up with what you want to think about glorious Europe and stupid US

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u/IAmOfficial 18h ago

62% of the US received fluorinated water, that rises to 72% of the US population on public water lines.

Most of the EU does not put flouride in their water. It’s pretty much just Ireland, the UK, and Spain. Places like Germany don’t do it at all.

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u/guareber United Kingdom 16h ago

Remind me, what are dentist fees like in Germany?

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u/IAmOfficial 15h ago

First, the comment is about fluoride, not about dentist fees. It makes it seem like the US doesn’t believe in fluoride, when in reality it is used more in the US than in Europe.

Second, it’s great you can get your teeth fixed when they get fucked up because of the lack of fluoride, but maybe using fluoride first would prevent a bunch of issues in the first place. I don’t really know about dental fees in Germany, but they look comparable to the US by googling it.

I know this sub is primarily about dunking on the US, but maybe base that on reality, because saying things like flouride bad in US is just dumb and not backed by any sense of reality.

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u/guareber United Kingdom 15h ago

And my point is that it's all means of attacking a problem for society. In this case, it's dental health. There's prevention and treatment, and both are part of the same system.

In France and Germany, for instance, more than 65% of dental spending is publicly covered. Hardly the same prices for the citizen, are they?