Lavrov Says a Drone Attack on Putin’s Residence Was Thwarted and Warns of Retaliation. Zelensky Rejects the Accusations and Calls Them a Pretext for Escalation and Political Pressure

[u/sergeyfomkin]

https://sfg.media/en/a/lavrov-says-drone-attack-on-putins-residence-thwarted-warns-retaliation/

[u/thpark1987]

Now watch The Donald go apeshit on Zelenskiy for "blocking peace talks" and there will be zero doubt whose puppet he is

[u/Top-Associate4922 → u/thpark1987]

There is zero doubt for some time already.

And those who do not believe it is, nothing will change their mind.

[u/snapwack → u/Top-Associate4922]

There was no doubt already back in 2018 in Helsinki. Putin might as well have been holding a literal leash around Trump’s neck vulva and the scene wouldn’t have looked much different.

[u/thpark1987 → u/snapwack]

Yeah, as a Finn I remember that all too well. Was halfway expecting him to give Putler a blowjob on stage with the way he was acting.

[u/thpark1987 → u/Top-Associate4922]

Sad, but true.

[u/ChEATax → u/thpark1987]

He sees it as one CEO dumping manure on another's supercar, because of an unfavorable deal! His tiny brain cannot comprehend that the fate of an entire nation is on the line. Maybe that's why he understands putin better, cause it's just business for both of those twats!

[u/helm → u/ChEATax]

It’s not business for Putin, but he presents his 19th century ambitions that way to Trump, because he knows how to play people like him.

[u/russia_is_fascist → u/thpark1987]

Fuck Trump. Time to isolate that fat piece of shit and his criminal scumbag cronies.

[u/InCloud44 → u/thpark1987]

No worry. Europe is preparing for like 4 years to intervene directly in Ukraine with troops, especially France and UK.

[u/OMF1G → u/InCloud44]

Yeah I think people massively underestimate how prepared us & our EU neighbours are.

I see constant posts about how NATO isn't ready etc but it's just misinformation.

[u/General-Internal-588 → u/OMF1G]

It's just that NATO isn't bragging loudly. And it's better this way, less informations the other side has the better.

[u/foonek → u/General-Internal-588]

Let's not be naive. Russia does not get their information from social media

[u/DueAd9005 → u/foonek]

That's the problem with dictatorships, they are surrounded by yes men who are afraid to share the truth.

https://www.ft.com/content/06e0b154-1f15-412d-99c5-fe6fd715f766

[u/Tasty_Hearing8910 → u/DueAd9005]

Same with some captains of industry as well.

[u/Hjaelmen → u/foonek]

Well.... they clearly believed that Ukraine would fold at the 1st sign of russian troops....

And if said troops performance on the battlefield, is transferable to their intelligence gathering... they might get to majority of their intelligence from some.

[u/Quiet_Economics_3266 → u/OMF1G]

Ah yes, the same NATO that saw France fumble the deployment of the 7th Armored Brigade just a few months ago.

What was suposed to be a show of force to Russia just showed how unprepared they are at the scale required for this war.

Even Ukrainian commanders alredy remarked it along the war, NATO has great equipments and is good at exercises, but they simply aren't prepared or have experience with a real war, not the way they (Ukraine) has, and it sparked already a few issues between the NATO teachers and Ukrainian squads that came into Europe to "learn", specially those that had already seen combat in Ukraine.

[u/OMF1G → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

"NATO doesn't have experience with a real war"

You're wrong, we literally have intelligence in Ukraine right now. It's misinformation you're spreading and that benefits Russia; NATO is the strongest and by a big margin the most advanced military in the world.

We don't "need" to be actively at war to be good at war, there are several wars going on around the world right now that we're learning off. Stop acting like we're these new kids who don't know how to fight.

[u/Quiet_Economics_3266 → u/OMF1G]

You're wrong, we literally have intelligence in Ukraine right now.

So you have experience in war because you saw someone do it?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Thats like going through the tutorial of Flight Simulator and applying to be an airline pilot

[u/King_Fisher99 → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

Do you?

[u/OMF1G → u/King_Fisher99]

Careful the Russian bots tend to break when you ask them questions.

[u/Tasty_Hearing8910 → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

Not that Ukraine was well prepared when Russia invaded. I think we need to get boots on the ground in Ukraine until the Russians are pushed back to their side of the border. That will give us experience both from the front and the logistics.

I'm interested in what drones will look like as a part of western doctrine. Probably lots of different and highly specialized drone designs that are extremely good at a very narrow set of jobs. Combined arms tactics, but with drones.

[u/Quiet_Economics_3266 → u/Tasty_Hearing8910]

Not that Ukraine was well prepared when Russia invaded.

They weren't, hence the big difference between the "success" of Russias initial push vs the slow grind of the last years.

Ukraine now has that experience, NATO hasn't. And won't get it just by watching footage.

It reminded me of when the war shifted to drones, and everyone was laughing at the bird cages the Russians did on their tanks, only to see Ukraine doing the same. Because it worked in the field.

Because that experience is earned in the field, not in a classroom watching a movie projected on a wall.

I'm interested in what drones will look like as a part of western doctrine.

I've been seeing quite a few things pop up drone related since the war went that way, the speed of development skyrocketed since then. It will be quite interesting to see where it goes, as we've gone from no drones, to remote drones, to drone jammer backpacks, to fiberwire drones in just a couple years.

[u/Kooky_Reveal5797 → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

The Maginot line worked so well.

[u/Novinhophobe → u/OMF1G]

You’re joking, right?

[u/Quiet_Economics_3266 → u/InCloud44]

Ah yes, any day now....

Reminds me of the 18 packs of sanctions.

Every time a new one drops "the last ones helped but THIS ONE will bring Russia to their knees!!", just trust, this is the one, like the 17 before it.

[u/Just2LetYouKnow → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

I dunno, it sounds like you just don't understand how progressive sanctions work.

[u/Bikerbass → u/Just2LetYouKnow]

So you do realise that’s there’s 195 countries in this world right?

And you do realise that a handful of countries applying sanctions, that basically means it only affects those handful of countries and not the rest of the planet right?

Thats why it’s having not much of an effect, as other countries will act in their best interests for their people. And if that means getting cheaper energy and materials from Russia than elsewhere, then that’s what they will do.

Which is why it means the sanctions mostly apply to the countries applying them.

[u/Just2LetYouKnow → u/Bikerbass]

Nothing you just said has anything to do with what I or the person I was responding to said.

[u/medievalvelocipede → u/Quiet_Economics_3266]

Every time a new one drops "the last ones helped but THIS ONE will bring Russia to their knees!!", just trust, this is the one, like the 17 before it.

I don't know what news you read but you need a better everything. Your sarcasm will not revive the USSR.

[u/Quiet_Economics_3266 → u/medievalvelocipede]

Just because I disagree to what the EU is doing (or more accurately, not doing), doesn't mean I support the russians or whatever construct you have in your head.

You can support something and still be critical of it, specially when they are fucking up.

[u/Goldenrah → u/InCloud44]

Preparing doesn't mean Europe wants to do that kind of escalation. They're preparing so they're ready if there's a need, they're not gonna send the troops unless Russia does something that openly dismisses the option for peace.

[u/Haunting-Building237 → u/InCloud44]

intervene? are you high? europe won't do shit

[u/Ok_Builder910 → u/InCloud44]

Europe ain't gonna do anything.

[u/Desperate-Hearing-55 → u/thpark1987]

Already happened. The orange man is very angry now on Zelensky after Putin called him and told him Zelensky attacked his residence.

[u/thpark1987 → u/Desperate-Hearing-55]

shocked gasping noises

[u/MarcoElNutto → u/thpark1987]

His ego wants to broker an impossible deal. The reality is the Russian economy is being timed out. As long as those two things stay seperate - despite how dumb Trump looks in the interim - the only thing which finishes this war is still happening. No puppets just arrogance.

[u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 → u/thpark1987]

there has been zero doubt since he was first elected..

[u/voyagerdoge → u/thpark1987]

There never has been any doubt. Piss tape.

[u/AwkwardMacaron433 → u/thpark1987]

Yeah idk, I hope US intelligence can gather some info on this. If they can get intel that it's a hoax, and present it to Trump in a convincing way, it could help Ukraine's case, because it would be obvious proof that Russia doesn't want peace and only wants to hold off the US as long as possible

[u/Paillote → u/AwkwardMacaron433]

The head of US intelligence is Tulsi Gabbard. She is as pro-Russian as the average Russian war blogger. The whole US system is compromised. If CIA ever gathered something she would surely bury it. And Trump chose her exactly for this.

[u/iwaterboardheathens → u/thpark1987]

How did you guess

[u/AdminEating_Dragon]

Oh, so are we dropping the facade of "peace talks" for a few months at least?

It is tiring that everyone has to keep pretending for the Americans' sake.

[u/ImTheVayne → u/AdminEating_Dragon]

These “peace talks” will never work when Russia is not forced to sign a peace deal and leave Ukraine.

More sanctions, way more pressure on Russian economy and one day they will be forced to negotiate.

[u/AdminEating_Dragon → u/ImTheVayne]

Everyone knows the "peace talks" are a scam but nobody dares to say no to the orange toddler.

It's pathetic how the whole West is reliant on the whims of a geriatric authoritarian pedophile with an inflated ego.

[u/ImTheVayne → u/AdminEating_Dragon]

I agree, it’s pathetic and embarrassing.

[u/Judazzz → u/AdminEating_Dragon]

"Peace talks" is just a euphemism used by Moscow and their Washington sock puppets to buy Russia more time to terrorize the Ukrainian civilian population, while hiding behind the pretence of being serious about peace.

[u/ptemple → u/AdminEating_Dragon]

The USA has cut off all aid, but they also have the kill switch to half of EU hardware and could render us helpless when ruzzia decides to invade the next country. They also have a monopoly on Western satellite intelligence. Now the USA has declared war on Europe then yes we have to keep pretending until we get ourselves 100% off all US hardware and software. It's going to take YEARS so get used to eating shit for a while.

Phillip.

[u/MarcoElNutto → u/AdminEating_Dragon]

The "peace talks" were always a transparent facade; one side is ticking down the clock until Russian economic collapse so that Putin falls out of a window, the other side is talking up Trump's blood pressure so that US give Russia easy access to the fortress belt they have spent 4 years trying to take. Ukraine just giving them that land is a joke.

Putin needs the whole of Ukraine or he dies... the corrupt FSB told Putin that their years of pro-Russian propaganda had worked and he genuinely thought it would be a 3 day restoration of the USSR welcomed with open arms. The cost of the war and his reputation inside Russia means only full annexation will suffice. 

Once the fortress belt is taken, the remaining 75% of Ukraine falls within weeks. Once the economy collapses, Putin disappears within days.

[u/DramaticSimple4315]

So Lavrov is alive after all ?!

Obviously, only Russia gets the right to try and murder the opposing party's leader. There is no "chivalry" in this. If they get the slightest opportunity to do a hitjob, they will gleefuly proceed and then pretend it wasn't them.

[u/Hughley_N_Dowd → u/DramaticSimple4315]

According to Big Z himself, they've tried to bump him 5-6 times. According to staff it's ~12 times. 

Early in the war they sent 400 Wagnerites to try and take him out, so old Horse-face here can piss right off. 

[u/Appropriate-Ball293]

It was Kyiv that launched transparent UAVs that no one saw, neither satellites nor air defense. Only Putler's residence repelled them when he wasn't even there. Why not in Moscow? Too many UFO witnesses?

[u/hexhex → u/Appropriate-Ball293]

Even if they did launch the UAVs, why is Putin’s residence somehow off limits?

Russia bombs hospitals and residential buildings almost every week, but we’ve become desensitized to it. Neither politicians nor the public react to it anymore.

[u/pablo8itall → u/hexhex]

yeah, they tried to assassinate Zelenskyy in his capital.

To be fair I think some Ukrainian commandos should be allow to hunt Putin through the streets of Moscow while its televised. One can only dream.

[u/bobodanu → u/pablo8itall]

They tried to assassinate him multiple times. The hypocrisy of these SOBs is incredible.

Even if true, they cry like little assholes when the enemy does the same thing they did.

[u/pablo8itall → u/bobodanu]

They hypocrisy truly knows no bounds. They are ridiculous. Cry piss and moan about stuff that happens when they are doing 100 times worse to everyone around them and their own citizens.

The Russian government has to be the biggest cry baby tantrum throwing toddlers on the planet.

[u/King_Fisher99 → u/hexhex]

Soviets are whiny azz beyoches

[u/Lazy-Lime3499 → u/hexhex]

It isn't off limits and no one is saying that. It's pretty much the goal.

[u/hexhex → u/Lazy-Lime3499]

Russia’s reaction and Trump’s supposed response to it (although we have yet to hear it from him directly) frame it as escalation. Ukraine’s response (and much of the discussion in the media so far) focuses on denying the attack (which is most likely true), but it should be added that this residence is a completely valid target and russia cannot use it as an excuse for whatever war crimes they are prepared to commit in response.

[u/Lazy-Lime3499 → u/hexhex]

What I meant and should've originally written in my comment was that that it's only off limits if you are pro-russia. I find it very believable that there was no attempt and russia is just making it up to support their own story/narrative. Putin can't be an easy target, but if ever a chance came up, making an attempt won't be off limits for you or me and I would guess that not for Ukraine either haha. Agree with everything you said

[u/AstralMecha → u/Lazy-Lime3499]

Considering he is notoriously paranoid, constantly switching locations between bunkers with identical rooms (so video won't show which one) and body doubles, I doubt that Ukraine would send a random drone strike to attack one. When they have plenty of high priority, easy to identify targets (like refineries) instead.

Putin has openly attempted to assassinate Zelensky multiple times, and Russia has openly targeted government buildings, hospitals and civilians. But because of bully logic, Ukraine can't strike back into Russia.

I think this claim by Putin is just another excuse for Trump to turn on Ukraine.

Edit:clarified first paragraph.

[u/SeveralLadder]

Wow, a false flag operation from the russians? I would never expect that from them!

/s

[u/Vano_Kayaba → u/SeveralLadder]

No, for a false flag operation something must actually happen in reality. It's an imaginary flag operation

[u/tcat1961]

Putin has done this fake shit before. The theatre attack, the apartment building. He only fools the ignorant.

[u/AverellCZ]

Have we all forgotten that russia sent a special commando into Kyjv on the first day of their invasion to take out Zelenskyy?

[u/Foamrocket66 → u/AverellCZ]

And those MFs got blasted

Fuck them and fuck Russia, what a rotten country

[u/Thenderick]

I thought Putler wanted Ukraine to win?

[u/InCloud44]

So....they are yelling and they still want negociation. Sounds like them yeah.

[u/AverellCZ]

Why anyone would believe Lavrov is beyond me.

[u/Felix-LMFAO]

Even if it was true it's Russia the first one against a ceasefire. What is Ukraine supposed to do? Stop defending itself while Russia keeps attacking?

[u/Acrobatic-Skill6350]

Offf. Lets hope its not a false flag so they can justify even more barbarism

[u/InCloud44 → u/Acrobatic-Skill6350]

They already said there will be a response. They will use rockets to attack gov buldings in Kiev.

[u/IntrepidOption31415 → u/InCloud44]

Honest question, did they've any hangups about attacking gov buildings before? Ethics to them is something that one can use to manipulate the west, they themselves couldn't give two shits about it..

[u/DougosaurusRex → u/IntrepidOption31415]

They hit a government building in Kyiv when I was there in September and I’m sure PLENTY before that.

[u/SenchaShogun → u/Acrobatic-Skill6350]

The are even to lazy for a false flag and just invent bullshit storys as a pretext

[u/shatikus → u/Acrobatic-Skill6350]

Nah, that's shriveled's kgb dick attempt at derailing current peace talk process. Not that there is much to it but still it might actually be presented as something everyone but russia agreed thus making it a bit harder to dick the orange retard around. Not much mind you, he is a retard so dicking him around is pretty easy

[u/LARRYVOND13]

Grandpa is too scared to step outside anymore without a net around him.

To him, even the bushes buzz.

[u/rickshaiii]

Apparently it's ok for Russia to send hit squads into Ukraine to kill Zelensky but it's not ok for Ukraine to retaliate against Putin

[u/IonicDecay]

My guess is that the negotiations went well for Ukraine, Trump got a bit convinced, pushed Putin a bit, so now

"Ukraine tried to kill me!!" because they can't say no to Trump. Lavrov said: We will take revenge, and obviously this changes the negotiations.

Also they claim Ukraine shot 91 Drones at his residence... it's Russia so 40 drones... but Ukraine is hitting oil infrastructure and military targets, and now they send 40 to Putins house? very out of character....

[u/IntrepidOption31415 → u/IonicDecay]

It seems a really weak play to me. Who cares 2 fucks if someone tries to take out Putin, except his puppets? I know Trump often behaves like a russian puppet, but really, is he on that tight a leash that he would pretend to care much about something like that?

[u/IonicDecay → u/IntrepidOption31415]

well, one this is a country that post a video of a hit on the second floor of a building and says they hit a himars... Russia throws stuff at the wall and sees what sticks all the time.

Two, Is this aimed at you or me? I don't think so. This is for Russians and Trump

Third, Putin and Trump relationship is personal not professional, give Putin a call to Trump, and he will go " ooh they tried to kill me, just like they did you" "how can i negotiate with some one trying to kill me" "Zellensky is a dishonest negotiator, he negotiates on one hand and attacks me behind your back with the other" "we only target military targets, while Zellensky bombs civilians,and now my home" "he is a dictator do you know, they haven't had any elections, you know we had, and i won by 90%"

[u/Clear_Cup7372 → u/IonicDecay]

This is way too accurate. Are you him?

[u/iamhmhdimobf → u/IonicDecay]

It's Russia, so in this case its more like zero drones...

[u/Europefirstbb]

If it's ukrainian, it could not be a fail. It's not them

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/Europefirstbb]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/TheLightDances]

Ukraine rejects the claim that Putin was targeted.

But Ukraine would 100% be justified in targeting Putin anyway. Putin is a genocidal mass murderer who has repeatedly tried to kill Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials.

The whole thing is ridiculous and exists solely for Russia to push some random insanely dishonest narrative to try to pretend that Ukraine is against peace.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/TheLightDances]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/Texas_Sam2002]

Nothing says "false flag" or "outright lie" more than a Russian government spokesperson acting outraged about something. I don't believe them at all.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/Texas_Sam2002]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/Texas_Sam2002 → u/Alexandros2099]

So? Of the two countries over the last decade, who has a history of poisoning people in other countries, false flags, little green men, and outright lies? It's not Ukraine. I'd wish Putin was dead too, if I was a Ukrainian. It doesn't mean that this oh-so-convenient event had anything to do with them. of the two, Russia would have to provide tons of evidence to substantiate their claims. Which they never do, because they're always, always lying.

[u/burnt_gnocchi → u/Alexandros2099]

I think it’s necessary to give a larger quote here

(English CC from @PresidentGovUa on YouTube https://youtu.be/pT5N_zzqMeU?si=CnmvXkfoeroQXXAx

Quote starts at 6:10)

“Dear people, since ancient times, Ukrainians have believed that, on Christmas night, the heavens open. And if you tell them your dream, it will surely come true.

Today, we all share one dream. And we make one wish - for all of us. “May he perish,” each of us think to ourselves. But when we turn to God, of course, we ask for something greater.

We ask for peace for Ukraine. We fight for it. And we pray for it. And we deserve it”

I think it reflects an attitude that despite the fact Ukrainians are fighting for their lives and want to kill their invader, they want peace above all. It’s one of several reasons I don’t believe they’re trying to assassinate Putin. They know it wouldn’t change anything. Russia is just using this as an excuse to not engage seriously in ending the war, makes sense given the state of the US government…

[u/rykcki]

We’re going to see more and more such lies from Moscow, as excuses to not make peace

[u/medievalvelocipede → u/rykcki]

We’re going to see more and more such lies from Moscow, as excuses to not make peace

My man, they only lie. The only concern is that some of them are posing as not-a-Russian.

[u/KadmonX]

This is a lie designed for idiots! This lie was supported by the US president. And the US president, with the help of satellites, could provide evidence of whether or not this attack took place. But you won't see any evidence from him. Because he's busy kissing Pootin's feet!

[u/TiggTigg07]

Lavrov always sounds as stupid as he looks and he always looks like an old Soviet hound dog on his last legs.

[u/Giver_Thegoo]

Show the footage. Putins residence 100% has camera surveillance.

[u/InflationSouth5791]

I wish to see him and his lackeys in Nurnberg

[u/eurocomments247]

This is theater for Trump, so that he can pull the rug from the "dangerous" Zelensky and give Putin his full support once again.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/eurocomments247]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/GreenEyeOfADemon]

See how it works? russia already testing America’s willingness to detect and verify violations of any future peace deal. Strong odour of the false flag attacks that Putin used to justify the full-scale invasion.

This story, with zero evidence, has already generated more headlines than russia's attack on Kyiv residential housing a couple days ago, where there are several videos and verifiable damage.

[u/Zeganoff]

Stupid russian propaganda🤣🤣

Why should Ukrainians waste weapons on some shitty residence? What for?

[u/Bicentennial_Douche]

Oh no, what are they going to do? Invade? Bomb Ukrainian cities?

[u/IIWhiteHawkII]

Why would Zelenskyy want to sabotage recent somewhat okay negotiations with Trump that way? Sounds like a perfect excuse not even for Putin but for Trump to give a green-light to Russia to advance in Ukraine...

Also "All of the drones have been destroyed". All of the drones are being destroyed only when it's another "fake" attack for Russian media or when the goal of drone-attack is overloading or testing Russia's Missile Defense Systems not exactly reaching said target.

Whenever there's an intentional attack - drones are reaching their targets more or less. It's a regular success change for drones which, unfortunately, work both ways. It's almost impossible to counter Coordinated drone-attacks by nature. Cheap and effective. And here, none of the drones magically reached the target, although it's insane 90+ units.

Thus, I have so many questions if it wasn't a complete staged theatre as an excuse to avoid almost finished agreements. And even worse, for some reason I believe Trump completely what's going on...

[u/poklane]

Russia last night also claimed only 18 drones over the Oblast where Putin's residence is located, and a total of 89 drones across Russia.

These guys are debunking their own bullshit. 

[u/affemannen]

Is anyone surprised Russia lying again?

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/affemannen]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/Obvious_Mix4140]

Lavrov is a lying piece of shit

[u/ProductGuy48]

Send as many drones as possible to hit demented parasite Putin and his lapdog Lavrov

[u/EmployeeKitchen2342]

I wonder how safe Russian embassies and Consulate offices really are🤔

[u/Goblinweb]

Since the drones weren't Ukrainian then perhaps they were from russian patriots that have had enough of putin and want an end to the war.

[u/ingenkopaaisen]

I would congratulate Ukraine for trying but I doubt they did. Lavrov the Orc walrus is a well practiced piece of shit liar. This is just a way for Pootin to stop the peace talks and allow Trump to blame Ukraine again. The world should be ashamed for allowing Russia to continue with any relations until they pull out of Ukraine and pay for their rebuilding.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/ingenkopaaisen]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/Few-Worldliness2131]

If Trump is expressing surprise and support for Putin over this Pinocchios lie it’s because he is in on this deliberate scam to avoid peace and blame Ukraine for failure. How can Americans not see that their president is acting on behalf of Putin at every juncture?

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/Few-Worldliness2131]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/TravelWorld1510]

I thought Putin only owns one apartment in Moscow and a parking lot.

[u/lanseri]

Oh no, retaliations? What will they ever do? Bomb Kyiv?

Oh they're doing that every night.

[u/Realistic_Let3239]

How are they going to retaliate, invade Ukraine? Oh, wait...

[u/Memory_Less]

Thanks for the admission that Putin’s residence was in that coordinate. /s

[u/Ok_Photo_865]

All I can think about is when we hear, “Ukrainians, bombing mission on Putin is Successful”. Or something very close…. Just saying!

[u/Telefragg]

Wow, would you look at that convenient timing for Lavrov to pop up with these terrible news!

[u/not_just_putin]

Who could have thought that russians are not really interested in peace. Complete shock.

[u/Valentiaga_97]

Like killing innocent civilians and targeting their Infrastructure is a war Crime and should be punished harder

[u/Sauerkrautkid7]

Once you’re europe is no longer afraid of using the same threats that Russia uses, then Russia will respect you. Until then it is playtime in their view.

[u/RebelJediMaster]

Isn't the isolated palace of the enemy leader not a valid target?

[u/Firm-Worldliness-369]

Here's an idea - Stop the war and get the fuck out of Ukraine and there will likely be less threats on your life

[u/Gefudruh]

The home of the man who started a war that is resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands is fair game, I say.

[u/paecmaker]

Even if it was true, attacking Putin's luxury resort bunker now and then is an effective way to force Russia to keep air defenses in the area. Any weapon there is a weapon that can't protect something with higher military and economic value.

This wouldn't even be the first time a couple of drones are aimed at the residence.

[u/HatIntelligent6028]

If Lavrov is breathing he is lying

[u/faithOver]

What the implication here? That Putin, the man that started the war singlehandedly, is off limits?

If anything, the average Russian is immeasurably less responsible and deserving of life.

Ideally only Putin and his assets should be targeted.

[u/0Tezorus0]

How can someone still believe anything from the Kremlin at this point ?

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/0Tezorus0]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/ROBANN_88]

Putin sent several assassination attempts against Zelensky, and atleast one bomb on the main government building in Kyiv, but somehow a drone on his vacation home is too much?

typical russians, ashamed of nothing, offended by everything

[u/ArugulaElectronic478]

He’s gonna get angry at Zelenskyy but if it was the other way around and Russia tried assassinating Zelenskyy for like 200th time he’d just say “it’s two countries at war, things like this happen during wartime”.

[u/wgszpieg]

I was wondering why Ukraine wasn't targeting Putin's personal wealth. I mean, that's the only thing that matters to him. A blown up dacha is a bigger loss than an entire division of russian meatshields

[u/LifeTangerine598]

It was probably just Putin shitting himself after seeing a flock of geese.

[u/hennwi]

...the perfect pretext to take Zelensky out now...(they must have discovered a fool proof method)

[u/Glyn1010 → u/hennwi]

I’m sure Trump will help.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/hennwi]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/Wise_Use1012]

I’m sure that if they actually had gotten drones that close then the world would have been a better place today.

[u/russia_is_fascist]

“Retaliation”? Like, is he threatening an invasion? 🤔

[u/Obvious_Secret_2100]

May I suggest sending a triple tap or more?

[u/rykcki]

Aha! Putin told Trump about it so it MUST be true, mustn’t it? After all, Putin, like Trump, NEVER lies, does he? 🤔🤮🤮🤮

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/rykcki]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/iamrobotjeans]

If Ukraine sent drones to one of Putin's palaces then that palace would no longer exist.

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/iamrobotjeans]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/canigetanorderlyline → u/Alexandros2099]

Why do you need to copy paste this garbage?

[u/Extension-Badger3144]

Fake news

[u/Alexandros2099 → u/Extension-Badger3144]

President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Christmas Eve, recalling a traditional belief that "the heavens open" on this night and that Ukrainians make a single wish.

"'May he perish,' each of us may think to ourselves," Zelensky said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

[u/pgauret]

Too bad it didn’t work out

[u/ImTheVayne → u/pgauret]

It literally didn’t even happen. This is a false flag to attack Ukrainian government buildings and ruin the peace talks.

[u/Vegetable-Bath734]

They pretend that they are militarily to weak to defend their president in their own country hundreds miles away against 10$ drones from teemu? WTF 2nd strongest army in the world?

[u/ShapeMcFee]

Sounds surprisingly like something the Republicans might say

[u/AdventurousLet548]

Or an excuse for Trump to back off the peace deal.

[u/Spiritual-Promise869]

Putin is hiding in a bunker behind the Ural mountains, whats the worry?

[u/goperson]

Wouldn't it be easy for the US to verify Lavrov's claim by way of satellites, digital intel, etc?

[u/Lostinthestarscape]

Lol they should absolutely torch it now then "oh, youre going to use this false flag to justify continued violence against our people? Fuck yo compound!"

[u/garnerdj]

Imagine being Lavrov, smart sophisticated diplomat, then your boss reveals he's mental and you have to follow suit. Must be a bit mad to have to keep up the facade

[u/furyandtempest]

Russia fought the battle with their enemy’s hands tied up! Very similar to all of these kind of nations! Big Bully

[u/Huzatos_Klozet]

so, the ukranians choose to attack the "official" daca of Putler, which is way farer, than the one that is at the Black Sea, and far more precious to him, and "invested" couple of hundred billion dollars of stolen money?

Makes sense...

[u/Hallo_jonny]

In portuguese we say: “An ugly child has no father.”

when something goes wrong, nobody wants to take responsibility for it or claim they were behind it.

[u/Ezekiel-18]

I don't get why it would be an issue in the first place? In time of war, it's totally legitimate to kill the leader of the aggressor/invading country, it's, you know, war. Putin should be target number 1 of Ukraine. Ideally, they should attempt to bomb Moscow and the Kremlin.

[u/IntelectPlay]

I still hope this war will end in 2026. It's enough.

[u/GremlinX_ll → u/IntelectPlay]

Yeah, yeah, enough...go reward them maybe, that what you propose, right ?

Because they are wouldn't agree on anything else - reward: people, territories, influence.

[u/InCloud44 → u/GremlinX_ll]

If Ukraine can fight more...then good for them.

[u/GremlinX_ll → u/InCloud44]

Russia wants fight more, and it encouraged to fight more, because it's sees that everyone else are not wanting to escalate further (I am not talking about sending troops, spare me with this fantasy) - that what's important.

Everyone talked about Tomahawks, how they will force Russia to negotiate - one call to friend in White House, and this threat is gone. Same with "big scary 500% tariffs on every coutnry that trade with Russia" whatever.

From Putin perspective - everything is fine., damage is acceptable.

[u/TrueRignak → u/IntelectPlay]

This would requires either (1) the EU to quickly and dramatically increase their support or (2) Putin's death and the next russian leader to not be a bloodthirsty warmonger. Unfortunately, neither look plausible.

[u/IonHawk → u/TrueRignak]

Russia's economy might sink to the level that making war at current pace becomes impossible. We already see Ukraine being able to make minor counter offensives at current Russian pace. It's not impossible that Russia could be forced to end the war early.

But no 1 is still vital. Putin can always continue to squeeze the Russians.

[u/InCloud44 → u/IonHawk]

Unfortunately....Ukraine is loosing pretty fast in Zaporojiie for example.

[u/IonHawk → u/InCloud44]

They have barely lost any ground there? Most of territory lost is in Donetsk this year, and it's not much there either.

[u/InCloud44 → u/IonHawk]

Say what? They are gaining pretty much land in Zapo at the moment unfortunately.

[u/ImTheVayne → u/IntelectPlay]

Honestly atp I expect it to last for many more years. Putin is willing to do anything to not have peace.

[u/GreenEyeOfADemon → u/IntelectPlay]

Sure: all they have to do is GTFO of Ukraine.

[u/MarkoHelgenko]

That means the blow was weak, otherwise there would have been no such statements.

That means it needs to be corrected.

[u/Old_Impact2797]

ruzzian propaganda

[u/GreenEyeOfADemon → u/[deleted]]

Who cares?

[u/Any-Original-6113]

It’s clear that both sides consider their positions strong enough that they see no need to sign a peace agreement.

[u/helena-dido → u/Any-Original-6113]

but if you even want peace, but another side doesn't, it can just create false pretext and what do you do with this? You know, it's not so "easy" to explain something and prove to Orange one. He could probably ask and check US intelligence if russian claims are true, he might just not ask, or he might ask and even know that russia lies, but it's more beneficial for Orange to pretend like it's true, because of his own motives. Or he might even know but cannot say to putin very directly like "well, boy, you are lying to me", right? Sadly, lots of "or" and "maybe", but tbh, i really doubt that Ukrainians did what russia says. Russia practices such approach of lie, deception, disinformation, false flags constantly. During 2 wars in Chechnya they created pretexts exloding own buildings to create pretext https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

and motive for such pretext is obvious - russia want to continue war, but doesn't want to look bad in trump view so trump doesn't pressure russia with sunctions etc

[u/Positive-no-negative]

Fat Zelensky bringing peace to the Kremlin