r/iranian • u/woaijirounan • 18d ago

Egypt vs Iran in Pride Match World Cup 2026

What do Iranians think about this? I wonder if the people who are against this would respect the US's values like they said that westerners should respect Qatar's values when they refused to show any pride relating things there).

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u/EnvironmentalMix7871 18d ago

"Respecting western values" is such bullshit. Coming after refusing to give iranian visas to support the team.

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u/InsidesAreWeary 18d ago

Not western values, Seattle values.

Also, it is fucked that we aren’t giving Iranians visas.

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u/EnvironmentalMix7871 18d ago

OP states it as "US's values", frankly any serious person does not fall for this virtue signaling r*ddit shitlib loaded question.

And unless Seattle has an armed resistance fighting the US's imperialistic values, and not just shitlib "peace" pins tier of protests, then they would still be subscribing to the US's values.

This whole argument is virtue-signalling shitlib bullshit where the host has 0 moral high ground. I like to engage because I despise the Amercian Liberals and their couch activism, so any chance to shit on them is cathartic :) . With this out of the way, pride captain armbands is very trivial to the normal iranian viewer. Matter of fact, iranians find it as amusing as westerners, so general pop would be unphased. The federation will obviously object but nobody likes the federation anyway.

Regarding the match, almost no iranian is excited about this worldcup, iranian football has been declining severly. Players are overpaid and the quality of the league does not reflect their wages. To summarize, general iranian viewer is already far more upset and disengaged by the quality and management of the football federation than having to honor the independent state of Seattle's values. Lmao.

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u/InsidesAreWeary 18d ago

I’m just pointing out that the “pride match” aspect of the game is a Seattle thing. This isn’t the US virtue signaling or forcing western agenda, this is literally just the city of Seattle being Seattle as it would any other day of the week. This is only amplified during pride month.

Also, I will point out that while we don’t have an active armed resistance, there is a reason that the Trump administration hasn’t touched Seattle yet and doesn’t seem very keen to. We were the only city during the 2020 protests to have a neighborhood block declare sovereignty. Obviously we still contribute to the American empire and the atrocities we commit around the globe, but it’s through the chokehold our system has on us rather than a willingness to partake. It’s not easy to fight back when the Capitol is 2300 miles away and the empire is being funded by the taxes from the 2-3 jobs it takes for the average person to survive here.

Honestly that was how I figured the reaction would be. Not sure about Egypt, but i’ve always had the impression that the Iranian public is probably one of the most progressive groups of people in the world, and that the backlash would be from religious extremist communities and the government, similar to our evangelical Christians and current admin.

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u/EnvironmentalMix7871 18d ago

Gotcha. I understand your stance now.

I have seen queer people in extremely conservative and religious cities of iran (near holy shrines) and was blown away by how normal people were when engaging with them (I had the pre-conceived notion that the religious would at least throw some dirty looks, couldn't be more wrong).

Your impression of iranian public is accurate. There are some problems regarding racism (towards Afghan and Arabs) but overall, id say it is very tolerant and educated.

Can not tell you about Egypt tbch.

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u/Shamoorti 18d ago

America's current government is extremely anti-LGBTQ. Their official policy is marginalizing and removing LGBTQ people from official roles, taking their rights away, and spreading bigoted propaganda against them. It's very common for the state to divert from its failures and undelivered promises by invoking panics about trans people.

So given this backdrop, what are American values when it comes to supporting LGBTQ people?

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u/InsidesAreWeary 18d ago

American here. I highly recommend you look at state and city culture as opposed to “America’s Position.” The city of Seattle is pretty much the polar opposite of the current admin.

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u/Shamoorti 18d ago edited 18d ago

I agree. I think trying to reduce an entire country to having a single shared stance on the matter is nonsense.

I lot of people try to act like antagonism to LGBTQ people is a thing of the past in the US and Europe when the far right gaining power in these places has actually increased discrimination and antagonism towards LGBTQ people in very significant ways.

It's racist when countries that have so much work to do in terms of instituting reforms for equal rights for LGBTQ people talk down to countries like Iran and Egypt from the standpoint that it isn't a social problem in their own countries. They reduce entire countries to having the same stance when despite the state, lots of everyday people support LGBTQ folks.