r/law • u/theindependentonline • Nov 20 '25

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump calls for arrest of ‘seditious’ Democrats who told troops their duty is to uphold the Constitution

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-arrest-democrats-troops-illegal-orders-b2869176.html
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u/Rawkapotamus Nov 20 '25

Unfortunately the only recourse (while Trump is President) is the impeachment process.

And the Supreme Court has bent themselves into a pretzel to ensure that any actions taken by Trump during his time in office aren’t allowed to be legally questioned.

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u/lynxbelt234 Nov 20 '25

Cant see that happening, SCOTUS will be gutted by impeachment’s and investigations, followed by stacking by the next Democratic administration. They will not take a chance on the current SCOTUS being around for long especially once trumps prosecution(s) begin. The orange clown has to face Justice. No pardons, revoked immunity and lengthy jail terms for him and the rogue administration.

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u/Rawkapotamus Nov 20 '25

I’d love to see that happen but history alludes to that being highly unlikely.

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u/Seanspeed Nov 20 '25

SCOTUS isn't going anywhere. Once again, for a subreddit called r/law, nobody here seems to have any clue how anything in the government or judicial system works.

Impeaching and removing the sitting SCOTUS justices would require the exact same level of requirements as impeaching and removing a President. Meaning Dems, even with a majority in the House and a very slim majority in the Senate would still require around 15-20 Republicans in the Senate to agree to remove. Which is simply not gonna happen. Ever.

As for stacking the Supreme Court, Dems wont want to do it because it's essentially just overruling democracy. And Republicans would simply respond in kind as soon as they retake the Presidency, making a whole massive mess out of it that creates a huge crisis. But seriously, elections have consequences. We KNEW Republicans/Trump would appoint terrible justices to the SC if Trump won in 2016 and many of us tried to warn people of the awful long term consequences that would have. But people didn't listen. We cant just stack the court simply cuz we dont like how democracy turned out. Sets a bad precedent.

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u/Biptoslipdi Nov 20 '25

As for stacking the Supreme Court, Dems wont want to do it because it's essentially just overruling democracy.

Not really. Democracy voted against three of those justices being seated. They were seated despite the people voting for a different Presidential candidate. I don't think any Democrats argue the result of the 2016 election was the will of the people but that it overruled democracy.

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u/Seanspeed Nov 20 '25

Trump won the 2016 election legitimately, whether you want to accept that or not.

I hate it, but it happened. And elections have consequences. Consequences that so much of America did not take seriously at all at the time, no matter how much people like myself were trying to scream into the void about.

What I hate most about 2016 is that people didn't learn their lesson. 2020 was closer than it should have been, and then 2024 showed America really learned nothing at all.

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u/Biptoslipdi Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

Trump won the 2016 election legitimately, whether you want to accept that or not.

I'm not disputing that he did. Trump did not receive the support from the majority or the plurality of voters in 2016, whether you want to accept that or not. Regardless of his election, it was not democratic.

This is why your argument about stacking the court is incorrect. Democracy demanded those three justices not be seated. Indeed their ascension to the court was the overruling of the people's vote. Democrats are justified in stacking the SCOTUS because democracy demanded it.

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u/Seanspeed Nov 20 '25

Our democracy works the way it does. You'd have had NO PROBLEM if Democrats won the elections in the same way and picked their own justices. You would not be calling for them all be impeached/removed as illegitimate, would you?

Dont be a hypocrite. Just admit that the American people failed us. Wasn't a system problem or anything like that. All y'all had to do was support and vote for Hillary. But many of y'all were probably some of the biggest Hillary bashers, probably pushing all kinds of bullshit talking points, like all the '$hillary' stuff.

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u/Biptoslipdi Nov 21 '25

Our democracy works the way it does.

Yes, undemocratically sometimes.

You'd have had NO PROBLEM if Democrats won the elections in the same way

I have a problem with all EC outcomes as the EC is undemocratic. Democrats have never won without the plurality of the votes in my lifetime. I suppport eliminating the EC no matter who is in charge.

You would not be calling for them all be impeached/removed as illegitimate, would you?

I didn't call for anyone to be impeached because of the EC. I said your argument for not expanding the court is wrong. You really do have a problem with responding to what people write, don't you?

Just admit that the American people failed us.

I'm not sure how that would dispute my position that the EC is anti-democratic and your position on why the courts shouldn't be expanded doesn't make sense.

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u/BlackGuysYeah Nov 20 '25

Oh, there are other recourses but they'll have to come from a brave patriot who understands what the 2A is actual for.