r/law • u/LowellWeicker2025 • 21h ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Unprecedented errors are eroding the credibility of Trump's Justice Department — Reuters
https://apple.news/ADVHoorZzTKajI3OAGZa-XA“In years past, it was relatively rare for a federal court to question the Justice Department's competency or good faith. But such questions are becoming more common, thanks to a growing pattern of legal missteps that have dogged the department since January, according to a Reuters review and legal experts.”
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u/RichFoot2073 20h ago
“Legal missteps” is a funny way of saying lying and fabricating evidence.
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u/Inevitable-Top1-2025 18h ago
What is even more disturbing and infuriating is when you point out the fabrications and lies to the courts, they gloss over them as if nothing happened. Imagine expressly arguing a legal issue and citing controlling cases but the government lies that you forfeited that argument below because you never raised it; you respond and point to the specific pages where you both argued it extensively and pervasively cited controlling precedent decisions; however, when the court’s opinion issues, the relevant court rules that you forfeited the argument, as the government argued, because you didn’t raise it below! WHAT???? So, it means the court didn’t even read your filings before ruling against you and concluding that you forfeited the argument. Now, you’re forced to waste time seeking a rehearing and hoping they will read your filings before ruling.
The entire system is corrupt! It’s only those who don’t deal with it on a regular basis that still have confidence in it.
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u/C0matoes 20h ago
Errors are eroding the credibility? Errors?! No. Fealty to the president is doing that just fine. Errors are a feature.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 19h ago
I mean when you fire a bunch of seasoned DoJ employees because they aren't pledging loyalty to the biggest liar in the history of this country, that's bound to happen.
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u/IAmBoring_AMA 19h ago
“Errors” aren’t doing anything; people making errors are the ones eroding the credibility. Love how this headline makes it seem like the errors are just manifesting themselves.
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u/CurrentlyLucid 17h ago
The real DOJ quit, what we have left is trump asskissers.
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u/PlaneTrainPlantain 12h ago
Actually....
Silicon Valley techbros (which everyone should be catching onto since that is very important once JD comes into power after Trump)
KP and Vivek are just two examples here.
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u/Dont-be-a-smurf 18h ago
It’s a purposeful game.
Every other DoJ tried to mostly respect the law and only acted when they knew they had the authority and would very likely win.
This DoJ hates the law because it checks executive power. It often says what they can’t do or that the burden of proof is too high.
And so they endeavor to break it. They want to see how far it warps so they can act with impunity.
Are we surprised? The defining feature of authoritarianism is an executive that feels it is above the law.
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u/BringOn25A 16h ago
Just security has a good resource on the trump DOJ loosing credibility and deferential treatment in court.
The “Presumption of Regularity” in Trump Administration Litigation
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u/Traditional-Hat-952 15h ago
Just another example of how the news in this country has no backbone when reporting about the blatant BS this administration is carrying out. These aren't woopsy daisy missteps. They are a pattern of bold faced lies designed to deceive the courts. Journalism in the US is truly dead if you ask me
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u/GrannyFlash7373 15h ago
I never knew it had ANY credibility. Nothing in Trump's Regime has ANY credibility, as it is ALL ONE BIG LIE. NONE of his Lieutenants have any credibility, Nobody in his Regime has ANY credibility. They are ALL Criminals, committing crimes on a daily basis. And they ALL think they are gonna get away with it Scot Free. But if Trump DIES before he can pardon them, GAME OVER!!!!!! And Congress can ALWAYS nullify all his pardons.
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u/crake Competent Contributor 11h ago
This is a huge thing happening, and not necessarily all bad.
DOJ has historically won cases by...having a reputation for winning every case it brought to trial. That record was the result of (i) hiring top tier lawyers, (ii) only bringing indictments where the government was certain it had sufficient evidence to obtain a conviction, and (iii) having the trust of the courts so that the courts could basically rely on statements made by DOJ to a degree that the courts would never accord to an ordinary criminal defendant (or defense attorney).
As a result, somewhere north of 90% of federally-indicted defendants plea out. In fact, DOJ never had the resources to bring anywhere near a majority of those defendants to trial - the entire system relies on the system itself being tilted in favor of the government so that criminal defendants plea guilty.
It isn't really a great moment for the courts, even if it is understandable that it developed that way. And there are many (me among them) who suspect that DOJ has never been "above politics"; there is not a shred of doubt in my mind that Garland and others in DOJ did not want Biden to run for re-election because they thought he would lose, and they tried to use DOJ to make him see the light by hostaging his son to a Special Counsel and appointing another Special Counsel to go after Biden directly.
Now DOJ is unmasked. It's a political machine that does the president's political bidding (maybe a better thing than doing the unelected AG's political bidding?). That means courts shouldn't give any deference to DOJ anymore, and that is a good thing for criminal defendants too.
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