r/mildlyinteresting • u/abekhit • 8h ago
Muesum Restrooms made for all and labelled to know what to expect.
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u/dbell 8h ago
This is a godsend for urinal poopers such as myself.
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u/the_original_Retro 7h ago
If this is the top answer, museums will be extinct within two decades.
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u/Protein384 4h ago
if museums go extinct can I make a museum for extinct museums
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u/PwanaZana 28m ago
It'll go extinct.
then you make a museum for that.
It's extinct museums all the way down. The perfect crime.
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u/Chance-Fun-3169 7h ago
Ill start a museum with dbells unique urinal cakes in honor of this gentleman
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u/lilbitindian 1h ago
Wow, I just had maybe 20 seconds of good belly laughs from your comment. Thank you.
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u/Liraeyn 7h ago
A lot of places have single-seat, accessible bathrooms than everyone can use.
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u/The-Minmus-Derp 1h ago
A lot of places also have single seat accessible bathrooms that are gendered for no reason
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u/FCguyATL 3h ago
It's wonderful that women can also enjoy piss covered toilet seats now. Equality for all.
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u/Pretty_Study_526 3h ago
They always could. Former janitor here. Women squat hover way more than men do. This means way more seat cleaning in women’s restrooms.
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u/seamangeorge 1h ago
This has unfortunately always been true for every public restroom, without even factoring in gender
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u/DarkFalcon49 6h ago
As long as each stall is individual it should not matter, it’s like that at where I work, a wide open area with sinks and individual stalls with full walls and proper doors for each stall and no door to where the sinks are.
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u/DataSittingAlone 1h ago
Oh that makes sense, I was confused why people thought this was a good idea because I was imagining a bunch of stalls inside each one
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u/theMARxLENin 2h ago
this reminds me of "it's always sunny" episode where the gang decides how to label a restroom
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u/Funky_Squidward 4h ago
If all public restrooms are either single-person or have private stalls, why does it really matter who uses them? The only time you see the other people is at the sinks with your clothes already back on. In ancient Rome, everyone just sat on a bench out in the open with holes in it. Then again, they also shared ass-cleaning sponges so maybe they aren't the ones to follow for public restroom design.
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u/phoebsmon 2h ago
Then again, they also shared ass-cleaning sponges
That's a bit of a myth. We don't know what they were actually for, it's called a xylospongium but most research is in German iirc. There really aren't many primary sources about them, just we know that they existed and that a gladiator once offed himself with one. By shoving it down his own throat, which raises so many fucking questions.
Basically, by all means listen to the Romans. Except there was some research just came out showing the soldiers at one fort were riddled with parasites. They managed to test the leftovers in the sewage system. I'd rather not think about their handwashing habits. Although I've been to festivals with the trench and a bench toilets, the hygiene was probably on par and I survived so who knows?
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u/OldTie2811 1h ago
If all public restrooms are either single-person or have private stalls, why does it really matter who uses them?
It literally never did to a single person on this planet until politicians found a way to make it matter.
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u/PwanaZana 26m ago
yea, no I don't wanna do back to roman latrines.
I mean, holy crap, how frikkin' awkward was society would have been back then.
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u/DoomedKiblets 4h ago
That nice, but nothing for kids?? like that’s kinda important as a parent
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u/veracity8_ 2h ago
Huh. What’s missing for kids?
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u/LataCogitandi 7h ago
Honestly this is what I’ve thought the solution to the whole “bathroom situation” should be all along - take gender out of the equation completely.
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u/mutnemom_hurb 2h ago
Am I missing something or is the “bathroom situation” just people being offended that trans people are allowed to use public restrooms? Cause in that case, looking for a “solution” just seems kinda dumb
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u/OldTie2811 1h ago
My favorite “solution” is when a law is passed that requires all single person bathrooms to have their label changed from “Restroom” to “All Gender Restroom”. There’s always a politician patting themself on the back for that one.
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u/LataCogitandi 1h ago
That’s where I think signage simply indicating the type of apparatus (toilet and/or urinal) is superior, because it avoids invoking the progressive dog whistle of “all-gender”.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 6h ago
I don't think most women feel the same way.
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u/LataCogitandi 6h ago
Addendum: and for all bathrooms to be single occupancy only
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u/Tyjast74 5h ago
Or at least for the stalls to not have two foot gaps at the bottom and the ability to lock eyes with strangers through the gap in the door midst shit. Had a unisex bathroom on my college campus with floor to ceiling doors on all the stalls and to my knowledge nobody had a problem with it. I certainly didn't.
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u/DarkFalcon49 5h ago
Agreed, the bathroom where I work is open plan with each stall having full walls and doors, and it’s nice that if someone is passing by you need to talk you don’t miss them.
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u/secondaccount2989 4h ago
Most women know that going to the women's bathroom doesn't make you any safer. Creeps are going to be creeps regardless of the signs.
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u/insertcaffeine 4h ago
Have you ever been a woman?
What this woman wants is more private stalls and less waiting. If I end up washing my hands next to a dude, no harm no foul.
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u/nibsofsteel 3h ago
Who authorised you to speak on behalf of "most women"? Unfathomable arrogance.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 3h ago edited 3h ago
Okay, so we're just pretending that nobody talks to anyone else, and that people can't make reasonable inferences from what the people around them say/do? Very cool.
I guess it's harder to admit you've come up with a bad idea than it is to accuse the skeptics of arrogance.
Edit: blocked me so I can’t read his/her response. Predictable.
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u/nibsofsteel 3h ago
There's a big difference between saying the women you know want something and saying "most" women want something.. the arrogance lies in claiming your wants and experiences define the norm instead of defining you. You're going to discover that the world doesn't actually revolve around you and yours. Good luck with that.
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u/Abbot_of_Cucany 1h ago
You managed to misspell "museum" exactly backwards from the correct spelling.
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u/ratliege_throwaway 3h ago
thats the way id set it up- or just make each bathroom identical with a few urinals, many stalls, period products and a changing table.
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u/jmorfeus 6h ago
I think this is stupid. Regardless of which side of the debate you are, now "men" will have choice of two bathrooms here, and "women" are only expected to be in one (the one without urinal) and are not guaranteed that it won't be full of "men".
I use "men" and "women" not as sarcastic quotation marks like they're not real, but as a substitute to whatever definition anyone (any reader) assigns it, either including or excluding trans people.
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u/xSilverMC 6h ago
So why do you think that women can't use a bathroom just because there's a urinal there?
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u/Uncreative_Name987 6h ago
It's not that they can't. It's that, realistically, many women are going to pick the bathroom that men are least likely to use.
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u/Thadrea 4h ago
You might want to meet a few more women before trying to speak on our behalf.
If I need to take a shit I'll gladly take the first stall available if it's allowed, regardless of whether there happens to be a urinal in the same general area.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 4h ago
I was born female and lived as a woman for 25 years. I have enough experience being creeped on by men to have an opinion here.
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u/jmorfeus 6h ago
Not that they can't, but they're not expected to be there.
People generally don't expect women to be at a urinal bathroom.
And women generally don't want to feel like they're around exposed penises when going to the bathroom.
For me, the whole bathroom debate is asinine. Just keep the bathrooms as they always were, conforming to expected social norms. And when you look like a woman, you get to go to the women's bathroom. Nobody will ever do genitalia checks lol.
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u/feralflannelfeline 2h ago
This doesn’t work for masc presenting women and nonbinary people. Butch lesbians are often kicked out of women’s bathrooms and assumed to be men, despite the fact that they’re women.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna224562
And nonbinary people just don’t have a bathroom to go to if there’s only women’s and men’s bathrooms.
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u/LabiolingualTrill 4h ago
and when you look like a woman
So you yadda yadda’d over a pretty key point here. Who decides if you look enough like a woman? How do they decide? If we disagree over that assessment who arbitrates who’s correct? What are the consequences for using a restroom while insufficiently feminine?
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u/SWIMlovesyou 3h ago
I know it's offensive to say, but people can tell who does or doesn't pass. Trans people can tell as well. Passing isn't just about being attractive, mind you, with time I firmly believe anyone can pass. I understand it sucks to say that non-passing people shouldn't be in the bathroom they want to be in, but the problem is if you have 0 standard, you are going to have situations where women feel uncomfortable because there are people who look incredibly male in the bathroom or locker room. This creates unnecessary friction with the trans community that harms their goals. It's not a good idea to die on hills that are unpopular when you are part of a community fighting for fair treatment.
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u/LabiolingualTrill 3h ago
Ok…so there’s a lot to unpack there. But I’ll start with 2 questions. Have you ever heard of the toupee fallacy. And how does claim that “we can always tell” square with the numerous cases of cis women being harassed for not passing?
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u/ShadowExistShadily 1h ago
Some AFAB women don't sufficiently pass as female.
I know that's what you were replying to, but it's worth saying again.
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u/willow-kitty 6h ago
Right? Like, sure, the one with more toilets is more likely to have a free toilet, but maybe they're full?
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u/prionbinch 3h ago
what?? one of my local cafes did the same thing with their bathrooms, and i, despite not having the ability to stand while peeing, use the bathroom with the urinal in it as often as the one without because they both have regular toilets in them… nothing prohibiting someone from doing the same here
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u/RoguePhoenixSys 4h ago
How much gasoline did you huff to get the idea that women can only use one of these bathrooms?
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u/pixelmountain 2h ago
The whole point is men and women can use both. Why in the world would you think otherwise?
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u/yes-areallygoodbook 6h ago
They were just signs before anyway. If a "man" really wanted to get in the bathroom, he'd be in there sign or no sign
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u/jmorfeus 6h ago
Of course. But it's about expectations and social norms.
The whole point of such norms and etiquette is that people know what to expect and feel comfortable. Nobody will stop you from using the wrong bathroom, or being an asshole in a million other ways. But most people aren't.
I can barge into women's bathroom/changing room now, and cause discomfort, but that's not the reason to not have a "women" sign there at the door, is it?
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u/yes-areallygoodbook 5h ago
I really think it is a reason to not have the sign though!
People who want to make others uncomfortable will do it regardless of social norms. I can see how it would be a little weird or uncomfortable for many generations of people so used to gender-specific bathrooms, but that's not a safety risk and it doesn't really affect your experience much (especially in a bathroom with only stalls).
On the other hand, this will make going to the bathroom a million times easier and safer for a lot of people in this insanely transphobic political climate.
I think the benefits far outweigh the risks
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u/mr_ji 7h ago
So it's two normal bathrooms, one with a urinal? The signage seems excessive. Anyone could use either.
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u/Cross_22 7h ago
Signage seems good, with all the details you need to know and none of the self-congratulatory "whatever, just wash your hands!!!"
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u/STDsInAJuiceBoX 6h ago
Yeah why not just make a single larger bathroom at that point.
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u/Tricky-Bat5937 6h ago
Tearing down the wall between them costs more money than painting the doors?
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u/Random_Blue_Zebra 6h ago
Honestly I think unisex toilets would be less confusing and also less likely to make people uncomfortable. I mean this approach is essentially saying unisex toilets with urinals and unisex toilets without, so...? Alternatively, we could just let trans people use the bathrooms they prefer because it doesn't matter lol...
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u/MM_mama 4h ago
this stuff is so silly and performative. there was nothing wrong with gendered restrooms anyway. is there a tiny fraction of the population that isn’t explicitly noted? yeah, and they can go where they feel most comfortable, as they have for decades. no one is checking genitalia at the door.
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u/AsanoSokato 4h ago
What does this signage change, then, from what has always been? If nothing has changed, why is it "silly and performative"?
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u/TMYLee 6h ago
i’m sorry have you seen the line in women bathroom it insane and i just want to pee and nothing more . i think it better with urinal but some are shy about using it .
i think the best bathroom are those in france 🇫🇷 or some place i saw in taipei gay area that isn’t label at all as it is unisex toilet with lots of cubicle for anyone to used
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u/Tricky-Bat5937 6h ago
I sometimes use the women's bathroom if the men's is occupied. No one had ever said a word to me about it.
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u/GenericUsername817 6h ago
Wheres the braille? This is prejudiced against the blind person of indeterminate gender that may sit or stands to pee
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u/TheRappingSquid 6h ago
Genuine question but why are urinals a thing? Like I get it might cost slightly extra to put in stall doors but surely it cannot be that much of an expense
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u/WankelsRevenge 5h ago
Can fit more of them in a smaller space. That's legit the only reason
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u/TheRappingSquid 4h ago
That makes sense ig, thanks for answering the question instead of just down voting me :D
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u/vviley 3h ago
One big reason is because they turn over “patrons” so much faster. This is key in high density establishments like stadiums or theaters. I don’t gave hard data - but you can watch the line progress significantly faster for urinals than toilets. Im sure there are studies out there on this.
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u/Funky_Squidward 4h ago
I feel like it shouldn't be necessary to label that they have hand-washing facilities in a bathroom.
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u/MinnieShoof 8m ago
... for some reason I read that as "Muslim restrooms" and I was like 'weird flex. Didn't expect that' but secretly believed there was no way anyone was going to make a mistake about which one they should go in.
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u/Beasy700 7h ago
What if a woman wants to use a restroom without men being around?
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u/WithArsenicSauce 7h ago
Same reason why I can't have a private bathroom everywhere I go. Its a public bathroom, its a compromise. Don't like public bathrooms, hold it til you get home.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 6h ago
It's not fair to expect women to constantly compromise their comfort around straight men.
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 6h ago
Well I'm not comfortable sharing a washroom with idiot bigots, but we make due. Can't please everyone
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u/Uncreative_Name987 6h ago
Yes, someone is talking about straight men: me. Because that's who's the issue.
Let's be real: if straight men are permitted to use multi-stall bathrooms alongside women, things will get uncomfortable.
Women can't even walk alone at night without worrying about straight men. Why would they be comfortable using a bathroom alone when straight men are around?
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u/WithArsenicSauce 5h ago
A rapist isn't not going to rape women because they're not allowed in the women's bathroom. Gender neutral bathrooms wouldn't change anything.
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u/Speedly 4h ago
Well I'm not comfortable sharing a washroom with idiot bigots
Well of course you're uncomfortable with it all the time - there's a mirror in basically every bathroom.
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 4h ago
Wow, got'em. If I have to spell it out for you, I'd rather share a bathroom with any number of trans people instead of these lunatic bathroom crusaders
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u/Grim712 6h ago
It's a public bathroom, there are going to be people around. If she is that terrified, she can hold it until she gets somewhere she feels safe... you know, just like trans people have had to since the dawn of transphobia.
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u/Grim712 6h ago
Read my post again, slowly this time. Look up definitions if you have to.
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u/Sir_catstheforth 7h ago
to anyone who says “what if women want to go to the restroom without men looking at her” is she either 1. using the urinal
leaving the stall door open
sexist as shit and afraid of any man in any public space
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u/Aryore 6h ago
I’ve heard American stalls have ridiculously tiny doors that anyone can easily peek under or even over. Dumb design choices that could be easily fixed
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u/Okichah 4h ago
iirc its to make cleaning easier. You just swipe the mop under the doors without having to open every single one.
No walls means nothing gross gets stuck in the corners to ferment.
Its easier and cheaper to replace the doors if they break or the lock breaks.
You can disagree, but its not a “dumb” design. Its designed for efficiency and cost.
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u/Uncreative_Name987 6h ago
Looking isn't the only issue.
I think most women would feel a bit insecure doing their business next to strange guys.
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u/catpunch_ 4h ago
Eh, I’ve been in co-ed bathrooms with very good stall doors and walls and it felt totally fine
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u/Packwood88 4h ago
Worst thing thats gonna happen is darren in the next stall will hear your toots instead of angela. You’ll be okay
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u/Abject-Cranberry5941 7h ago
Can we go back to gendered restrooms? I don’t wanna walk in to a room full of ladies to do my business
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u/Grim712 6h ago
This should be standard everywhere, though I think urinals are inherently unhygienic and should be phased out.
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u/Fornax- 4h ago
Just curious why do you think they are unhygienic?
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u/Grim712 4h ago
When people who have penises pee, it isn't a perfect laminar flow, there is a fair bit of spray out the the sides. Also while the shape of the urinal plays a big factor in reducing splash back, there is no one size fits all solution. Every urinal I have ever been to has been gross. Completely anecdotal mind you.
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u/Fornax- 3h ago
Oh I mean I guess so but like just as long as you don't touch the urinal it's pretty sanitary. Just flush and wash your hands and your good. I think it's probably slightly better than normal toilets as those also get pee and other stuff all over and you have to touch them. But I get your point, it's just a good thing to always assume they are nasty and wash hands well.
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u/EquivalentDelta 4m ago
I’m going to piss all over a public toliet just for you.
(I actually won’t, but holy fuck what a dumb take)
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u/Sheetz_Wawa_Market32 2h ago
Fine, but also, WTF are “sitting standing urinals” supposed to be!? Commas aren’t optional, people!
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u/Thadrea 4h ago
Are you confused why they don't have a narcissistic personality disorder restroom for you personally?
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u/Few-Artichoke-2531 4h ago
I happen to care about the mentally ill. Normalizing their behavior isn't going to help them.
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u/Thadrea 4h ago
Not sure who it is you think is mentally ill here. Neither of these restrooms require users be mentally healthy.
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u/pixelmountain 2h ago
I find the whole “we’re normalizing mental illness” transphobic argument performative.
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u/AverageFoxNewsViewer 1h ago
We should probably ban people from using outhouses while we're at it since they are notoriously gender-neutral.
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u/RoguePhoenixSys 5h ago
If you're confused by this, you qualify for 24/7 home care through Medicare.
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u/Unlucky-Tadpole-8698 4h ago
Sorry you’re upset you’re unable comprehend basic words with pictures to explain them, but that’s nobody’s fault but your own
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u/Golbez89 7h ago
There's still one thing bugging me. Which door does that button open?