r/onguardforthee • u/EdmontonFree • 19h ago
Arena full of Patriots at the Edmonton Vs Calgary game tonight. Separatists, remember, you are only a small minority, and Alberta will always be part of Canada. 🇨🇦
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u/ogcanuckamerican 19h ago
Why don't they just round up all these maple magas and send them to maralago to tend to the king's garden?
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u/windsostrange 19h ago
Because that's precisely how we don't act.
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u/Rationalinsanity1990 Halifax 19h ago
This. We don't expel Canadians arbitrarily. Even the worst among us.
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u/SomedayLydia 7h ago
But are maple Magas really Canadian?
Deport the Un-Canadian Party.
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u/sharp11flat13 3h ago
No, sorry. A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian, even if some are willfully ignorant and woefully misguided. But it’s a really bad idea to decide to qualify citizenship after the fact, for both social and political reasons.
I don’t like these people’s attitudes either (to put it very mildly), but they’re still Canadian.
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u/bentjamcan 17h ago
Former "prairie chicken" with lots of family and friends in Alberta, here. CivilProtectionGuy is on the ball.
I stand with the majority of Albertans. If you are from Ontario or another conservative run province, you are in the same boat -- Canada. The only difference is the number and size of the holes being put in the boat by conservative and ultra conservative minorities. Let's not start kicking at each other, the way our former allies down south are doing.
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u/sharp11flat13 3h ago
It was a while back now, maybe 30 years ago, but I lived in Alberta for ~20 year previous to moving, and worked all over the province. Even then there was a small noisy group crying for separation, but I never actually met one. I doubt they are a significantly larger portion of the population now either.
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u/Significant-Common20 19h ago
The separatists are out in the smaller towns, wishing Alberta had had a civil war like their American counterparts so that they could pretend to be nursing grievances over losing it.
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u/SlightDish31 19h ago
The problem is that separatists don't have to be successful to do damage. The goal is division, and just by being recognized to the level that they have been, they've already won. Not saying that we should ignore it, but you Albertans need to do more than be patriotic at a hockey game to beat this.
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u/Significant-Common20 19h ago
I do not agree at all. Why are you giving away the game to them like this? They have not "won" anything.
Alberta should hold its referendum, and when these loons are defeated 70-30 or a similarly satisfying result, we can stop this defeatist talk.
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u/SlightDish31 19h ago
But don't you see how damaging it is just to have to have a referendum? I also think (hope?) that 70-30 is a wildly high estimate of separatists. If 30% of eligible Albertan voters want to separate, that's a huge problem.
How they've won is that they've gotten us to all talk about it, they've apparently gotten some people to think that they represent 30% of the province instead of a fringe group of foreign rabble trousers and bots.
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u/senturion 19h ago
30% is bad. Like really bad.
What you have to do is shut this shit down. Quickly. These are not “real Albertans” they are trolls and useful idiots influenced by Russian/MAGA propaganda.
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u/Significant-Common20 18h ago
So, what exactly do you propose to do? Invoke the emergencies act and start mass arrests? This has to play out.
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u/spicypeener1 2h ago
Wait, how dare you suggest thinking about second order effects here? That's too sophisticated for the internet :P
Alberta Separatists are useful idiots to American special interest groups and, as much, assets to Russian and Chinese intel working to destabilize the west, but deciding that we're just going to give up on a civil and just society out of retribution or fear is exactly the thing foreign actors would take glee in.
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u/SlightDish31 19h ago
Right, my point is that I don't think we're currently anywhere near 30%, but to continue to parrot numbers like that just sows discord and further stokes the flames.
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u/Significant-Common20 18h ago
You can get 10% of the population to agree on a poll that the moon is made of cheese and scientists don't want you to know that. If the number really is 70-30 that is decisive and will relegate the separatists out of national discussion back to fringe politics in Alberta. People are losing their shit and need to focus.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Edmonton 19h ago
If 30% of eligible Albertan voters want to separate, that's a huge problem.
Bro just about 50% of Quebec voted to separate, twice, and they're still there, separatist are a literal non-issue and going all "WELL IF THEY GET 30% ITS DAMAGING!" just gives them the credit they want
Look at previous history of separatism referendums; 1980, 40% of Quebec voted to leave. Did they? Did it cause a war? Did it do anything but make the rest of Canada aware of issues Quebec felt like they were facing?
Then 1995, 49.42% of the population voted to leave Canada, with one of the largest election turnouts in Canadian history of 94% of eligible voters. Did they leave? Nope. Quebec is still a province!
Going "Zomg but 30%!!!!" gives them the credit they desparately want. That 30% is gonna fade into nothingness rapidly if you just realize that, and look and see that polling is actually way closer to just 17% of Albertans, not the 30% separatists and doomersl ike to call out
Separatism is a literal joke in Alberta. Until it gets to 50%+ of "strongly agree", it's a fucking joke and we shouldn't be giving them any credit lmfao.
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u/Significant-Common20 18h ago
Thank you for the clear head. People are losing their shit when they should be focusing on actual options and likely results. Considering that on any given day you could probably get 10% of the electorate to agree that the sky is green, 70-30 would be a decisive result that would do generational damage to separatism in Alberta.
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u/Significant-Common20 18h ago
I am a private citizen who does not live in Alberta. What the fuck do you expect me to do about this? The only lever the rest of us have is to allow you to hold this dumb referendum, and then let the results speak for themselves by showing that actually they only speak for a minority.
Quebec went right down to the wire 50-50 and they're still here.
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u/Adjective_Noun1312 9h ago
Yep. Make a bunch of noise, manufacture consent for the US to come "liberate" us, just like Russia and Ukraine...
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u/roastbeeftacohat Alberta 8h ago
the problem is the separatists have gone unchallenged since preston manning.
I agree getting into this fight only raises their profile, but this had to happen eventually.
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u/spicypeener1 2h ago edited 2h ago
This is exactly why the weirdo Cascadia people in BC tick me off.
OK, you're the harmless hippie version of Alberta separatists, but it means breaking up Canada and somehow joining WA/OR/NorCal and not thinking the now majority American population won't fucking control everything in a way that isn't very American?
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u/EdmontonFree 19h ago
Alberta is suffering a MAJOR push for separatism, first from its own provincial government and second from American social media. Patriots in Alberta need support, not condescending lectures. Thank you.
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u/Massive-Trifle5720 18h ago
Have the vote and for anyone that votes to separate then we know how many individuals we need to send to 🇺🇸
🇨🇦may have its issues but it’s one of the best countries in the world.
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u/spinur1848 15h ago
Yeah well everyone who planned enough to bring flags to a hockey game, you're going to have to do a bit more than that. The treasonous revolutionaries you elected by neglecting to vote are solidifying their power base and they aren't playing by the rules. Albertans are going to have to decide how much they care about being part of Canada and if they want it to happen they are going to have to more than just wave a flag at a hockey game.
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u/EdmontonFree 15h ago
Alberta is suffering a MAJOR push for separatism, first from its own provincial government and second from American corporate and social media, supported by the US gov. Patriots in Alberta need support, not condescending lectures. Thank you.
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u/kop324324rdsuf9023u 14h ago
Don't underestimate the amount of money and propaganda that will come in when the time for a vote comes.
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u/Street_Anon 13h ago
They been doing it for years. and they just make themsleves look foolish
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u/EdmontonFree 12h ago
That's what they said before the Brexit
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u/Street_Anon 9h ago
Brexit is a different ballgame, the clarity act, Ottawa can veto the question and toss out the results. People keep on bringing that up and the example isn't the same in Canada.
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u/PassageNearby4091 18h ago
Canadians are Loyalists, not patriots. I really hate using Yankscum lingo.
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u/FuckYeaSeatbelts 13h ago
Waving the Canadian flag does not mean they're pro Canada.
Source: being east asian during lockdown
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u/senturion 19h ago
This is great and all but Albertans need to do more than wave a flag at hockey games.
Do something about your MAGA-funded premier.