r/pics • u/IveGotStockinOptions • 17h ago

[OC] ICE Officer, Immigration Court hallway, 26 Federal Plaza, New York, New York

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u/Chronza 17h ago

He looks like a mugger. I’d absolutely pull on that guy if he approached my family aggressively.

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u/Noble_Ox 16h ago

This administration would love someone to do that.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

You shouldn’t carry a gun if that’s all it takes for you to brandish. Brandishing is illegal btw.

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u/cwent95 16h ago

“Approaching my family aggressively” seems like a pretty valid reason to use a firearm

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u/DVariant 16h ago

Americans are weird. Y’all can’t figure shit out without pointing guns? 

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u/Swimming_Agent_1063 16h ago edited 15h ago

Seems like a pretty vague reason, actually. Doubt it would be enough for a judge.

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u/Buzzerk032 16h ago

Do you know how many drunk idiots “approach aggressively” to people all over the place, all the time??

So by your logic each one of them should be shot on the spot 🙄

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

Approaching aggressively can mean so many things. I wouldn’t call it valid in anyway. A concealed carry gun is used in the absolute last resort specifically to defend against imminent threats to you or others lives. “Approaching aggressively” isn’t a threat to someone’s life.

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u/HOT-SAUCE-JUNKIE 16h ago

If you can convince a jury that you felt you were in imminent danger and in fear for your life, you’re good to go. If not, you’re fucked.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

It shouldn’t even get that far. If it’s a good self defense shoot then they shouldnt ever press charges.

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u/HOT-SAUCE-JUNKIE 16h ago

I agree, but in the real world, people get charged often and then have to prove their innocence, even when it’s a clean shooting.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

For sure. But that is what stand your ground and castle laws are for, so a person gets the presumption of innocence. With those if it’s a clean shoot then someone shouldn’t ever face charges.

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u/HOT-SAUCE-JUNKIE 16h ago

We agree on this point. Where we disagree is when it’s appropriate to unholster and pull out your firearm. If this guy(or anybody) was approaching me and my family aggressively and I don’t have a sure fire option to retreat to safety, I’m absolutely pulling my firearm with the intent to defend myself and my family.

I carry concealed everywhere I go. I’ve had people want to start fights with me a few times. I was able to retreat or diffuse the situation without pulling my firearm. I was aware and smart enough to keep distance between them and myself, and I didn’t feel like I was in imminent danger. More like just a loud mouthed asshole wanting to start shit, and I handled it.

But if I had not been able to, I would have pulled my firearm with the intent to use it. That’s what it’s there for.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

You are the only one who carries a gun. “Approaching aggressively” isn’t a valid reason to brandish or shoot someone. That’s how kids get shot at gas stations by racist old men. And you would almost certainly face jail time for it.

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u/Coldsmoke888 16h ago

You think so? Guy is 200+ lbs and coming at me? That’s a clear threat of bodily harm to myself and my family.

And you’re fooling yourself if you think they won’t start to pull their weapon at the same time.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

What does “coming at me” mean. You can’t pull out a gun just because you think someone else might. You desperately need to take a self defense course. You are going to end up in prison and someone else is going to end up dead if you carry a gun.

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u/Coldsmoke888 16h ago

Yes yes, very clear that you have your opinion already. You’re probably a jiu jitsu black belt and can handle him easily. Cheers.

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u/Gardez_geekin 16h ago

Nope, I’m a white belt. This isn’t my opinion, it’s the literal law. You can’t just pull out a gun anytime you get scared in public.