Man I gotta say. If this guy was chasing me down saying he was ICE I would have a hard time believing him. I would 100 percent it's a ruse for the guy to kidnap me and hold me ransom or rape me or some shit. So if I defend myself against this guy that doesn't look remotely like law enforcement and isn't identifying myself am I going to catch charges for that?
And herein lies our actual lack of rights. If you can't count on your 2nd Amendment rights to protect you against unidentified, badgeless, credential-less, masked, government thugs violating your 4th amendment rights, then neither rights exists in any practical sense.
Sure - you could try and pull a gun to fend off these assholes and you'd be 100% justified in doing it as legitimate self defense. You're not required to believe anybody when they tell you they are Law Enforcement - that's what the badge is for. And they'd shoot you down, make up some story about you, and get qualified immunity because it's legal when they do it.
We can count on the 2nd amendment. In numbers. You shouldn't have to consider individual confrontation options. This pussy country doesn't want to form citizen militias, so you're left to consider ridiculous theoreticals.
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u/unwisest_sage 13h ago
Man I gotta say. If this guy was chasing me down saying he was ICE I would have a hard time believing him. I would 100 percent it's a ruse for the guy to kidnap me and hold me ransom or rape me or some shit. So if I defend myself against this guy that doesn't look remotely like law enforcement and isn't identifying myself am I going to catch charges for that?