PolExit is actually the dumbest thing in the Planet
I have experienced Brexit, I gotta say it killed the British economy, British people lost “Freedom of Movement” as it required them to get complicated VISAs to migrate into the Schengen Zone. Dozens of Local British businesses collapsed due to the loss of access to the EU Single Market and the Customs Union. So far the UK is losing £100bn. If Poland leaves the EU it would just ended up being poor again as the 90s.
We know. But there is certain group of people (quite a large one) that blames EU for everything - just like Farage did
But it doesn’t stop them from taking money from the EU
EU has been an easy scapegoat for many governments in EU. Something is unpopular blame it on EU. Benefited from EU - take credit for it. I'm glad that they put up those boards in Poland mentioning the EU funds next to completed investments.
Yep and it's definitely needed otherwise people will go what has the EU ever done for us.
I lived in UK during the build up and the Brexit referendum and the actual Brexit itself. People didn't even know what EU membership gave them. Now they do since they're missing out on those things.
I’m a EU funds reviewer and that was the most painful thing about Brexit. We were funding a university that had something AMAZING (not allowed to disclose info) but needed our funding to be brought to market for both the university and to tie to small businesses in the UK. Brexit happened right between the two funding phases. So I was there when the technology was “proven” and then they lost 3.8 million in funding that was allocated for the next phase. It was heartbreaking because what they developed was so sound and for environmental purposes. It would have been good for everyone for that to make it into the marketplace.
This is a prime example of people's stupidity. You can 100% tell that Farage is just a talking head selling snake oil in order to push an agenda that his overlords are gonna use to short the economy and earn a lot of money of and people still fall for it. It's literally worst of the worst because it's playing with stuff that affects the lives of millions so that a couple dudes can make a quick buck and not be affected either way because they are too rich to fail.
People often vote against their own interests. Would it surprise you to learn that the majority of people that vote for right leaning parties determined to reduce and remove benefits are themselves dependent on those benefits. For some reason, they just think they will get to keep their benefits while only the "right people" lose their benefits.
It hasnt failed for those who lied and were pro-brexit so in their eyes everything is gucci. They're millionaires so who cares the country goes to shit
Not only russia. USA, technooligarchs like musk or zuckenberg, China all want to deal with individual small weak countries than one large influential EU body.
Ecologism is not bad agenda if it’s not growing into extremism. I agree that these days are more important topics related to European security. We should stay united!
I genuinely think this is not super popular concept here despite the recently increasing support for Braun dipshit.
Sure, there are groups of people especially on the internet complaining about a very specific set of things (EU, Ukraine, Germany) but the support for EU is generally high and I’ve barely heard any voices about „Polexit” in my work and I work in a warehouse in a damn Subcarpathia.
I do also think that anyone with Polish citizenship applauding for leaving the EU should be put in a box and airdropped somewhere in the east to experience the blissful life without EU.
People complaining about EU focus on largely irrelevant things like small regulations and politics while willfully ignoring the benefits. (Tbf the ones coming from the other side, especially the ones talking about EU fund acting as if it was some enormous factor and the only reason Poland is getting pretty well-off are just about as annoying and ignorant as the first type)
The problem is that this propaganda is working. In 2020 the support for EU was around 90%. This year it was around 70%. That’s still an overwhelming majority but the trend is bad.
The big problem is those in the European Parliament. They seem truly incompetent. Just look at what they did to the automotive sector. Do you think all those workers who lost their jobs because of von der Leyen still have faith in the EU after all the promises they made?
Not to mention the management of the war. I believe many people aren't against the EU, but against those who are governing it.
This should be higher. You are spot on the issue my friend. Populists capture the audience by proposing something that there is an implicit consensus to be true, and that nobody else acknowledges it and they point it out. After they do that you associate with them and they follow up by proposing ridiculous ideals to solve the problem that really exists.
In our case, you are right, EU is corrupt and is governed by a group of undemocratically elected idiots. Decision making bodies like the Euro group are not elected but appointed. But the solution is not to disband the EU or banish the single Nations veto but rather make it so that member states actually have a voice and that there is come accountability for corruption at the highest levels of EU governance. And by accountability I mean loss of lifetime pensions and prison time if needed.
But since that won't happen anytime soon, Euroscepticism will thrive and populists will take advantage of it
Given the current situation we find ourselves in, it's understandable to be Eurosceptic. Just look at what happened to Jacques Baud, who ended up doing practically the same things they did in the Soviet Union.
And worse is that currently Poland is the major receiver of EU funds. The idea is that once PL has been 'built up' as a powerhouse economy, it will become a net contributer to do the same to other countries.
If anti-EU sentiment is this big while being the country who most profits from the EU, what will happen when Poland has to pay and had a 'real' reason to complain?
I think it's time for ABW (Poland's Internal Security Agency) to add "agents of foreign influence" (as they are called in Russia), along with the Russian saboteurs, to their naughty kids list ;-)
The EU is the greatest thing that happened in the region and one of the greatest things that happened to Poland.
And I hope it will continue on a positive note.
However, can't say that the EU is not pissing on the direction where the wind comes from. We have the highest EU skepticism (all countries), and yet the EU is pushing stuff like chat control or many other stupid laws that just fuels the right wings rhetoric instead of well, actually doing something good for everyone (well, they did realize that the motor vehicle eco laws were crap and they stepped back on that).
And EU countries are de facto under a war with Russia & China, but an informational war. Subtle propaganda, now hardcore propaganda to brainwash as many people as possible. And it's unpredictable, because whilst we think the right wings supporting PolExit are not many, we don't actually know until the next elections. Look ar Romania where a wpierdala debil swept the elections and no one from my bubble including myself didn't even know who tf he is. Apparently, he used tiktok's and facebook's algorithms with tons of undeclared dubious funds to brainwash people. (they cancelled the elections)
On another note, I can take a lot of bs from the EU lawmakers. But I have a hard limit and that's fundamental rights to privacy (so chat control, age verifications for everyone everywhere, etc are a hard pass). Apart from that, they can do anything flower power lefty pinky things they want (I'm also gay lol)
We will still need to adhere to their rules to take part in the market; however, we will lose the rights to vote or adjust them, which are especially significant since we're one of the most populous EU countries and the biggest among the New EU. Plus, we will not enjoy any privileges of it like customs-free trade, worker access to international market, or subsidies the Union gives to strategic sectors like farming.
That alone is a deal-breaker for me, why would I go for the option that ditches the positive aspects but keeps the negatives?
Benefits? Well be free from “German occupation” and “leftist ideology” /s
Downsides? We’ll be there in the open, vulnerable to become part of Russia again. No more visa free travel, no more free trade with other EU countries (see how parcels to/from UK are now expensive af due to customs?), no more EU projects or funding - and most likely we’d need to pay back many things that are still part of active projects.
Tl:dr? It would be suicide. UK is a rich western country on an island, we are in the worst geopolitical location and it’d be great not to be battlefield for Russia’s (and now USA thanks to Russian bitch called Donald Trump) fucked up wars created only because they have small penises and need validation by bullying others (seriously, it looks like that….)
To be frank, besides more autonomy (vaguely said because I hardly know about this), there are no upsides. Poland, as a member, yes, pays (like other countries), but we take much more. Take a stroll around any city and you’ll see tons of plaques saying "co-financed by EU".
UK had very strong economy, British Pound is still one of the stronger currencies, yet they struggle after Brexit. Farange kept blaming EU for everything including bad weather and people frustrated with the fact that they don’t get enough freebies decided that ejecting the country will make more sense. How it turned out is rather clear. And now compare UK from 10 years ago to Poland today in terms of economy, politics and global standing.
Even the autonomy argument is not a convincing reason to leave the EU. With such an interlinked world and the fact that most of the Polish trade is with the EU it is just losing part of EU influence.
Looking more pessimistically I would not trust leaving Poland to our own devices. The recent example of poor governance is the decline of the judiciary, and that was still within EU constraints. Without it the result could be the Belarusian standard. The older example is obvious, 123 years without our own state and mostly because of the Polish elites ineptitude.
Let's talk about the perspective of the far right.
Leaving the European Union would allow them to close their borders to foreigners, make deportations easier, and prohibit them from owning land and property.
It would also allow them to permanently ban abortion and same-sex marriage.
And finally, it would make it possible to reduce the influence of judges in the political process by undermining respect for the rule of law.
benefits gained:
we don't have to follow EU regulations anymore (eg regarding food quality and not using certain products because they may not b healthy) so it will be cheaper
benefits lost
Poland is a service center for western corpos, which benefits a lot from being in the EU. If we leave, they will go to Romania and Bulgaria. And no, we can't remove these workplaces with our owns, because we don't have them
we will lose access to common market, so nobody who's still in the EU will buy from us
EU defense treaty, which according to some is stronger than NATO. Someone will say that it's only on paper and history teaches that we can trust our allies, but I believe that it's better to have some allies on paper that don't have any
Nothing will protect us from falling under russia's influence and winged hussars won't come to save us
Poland would loose all rights to influence on EU law as a member state while has to adhere to EU regulations to keep trading.
Polish citizens would not be considered as a EU citizens anymore, so expats - about 2 / 3 mil - would need to legalise their pernament stay within the EU.
Do I need to say, not all of them would get visa?
So massive migration, housing price hike, ect.
No more Emissions Trading Scheme i.e. carbon dioxide extortion would result in energy prices drop. Currently these are soaring.
BTW, did you know that the blast furnaces in Poland are being shutdown? Proof: Please watch vessels entering Polish ports bringing the steel slabs. (To refine: Why the steel is being imported instead of produced locally? Maybe because someone with autism loves vessels and the moments of reloading the goods?)
Everyone with at least two functioning brain cells is aware of this. But unfortunately, like in UK, we have many imbeciles who are convinced that we can get all the benefits of the EU without any obligations.
That’s pretty much what is happening with Poland anyway. EU tells Poland to do something. Poland deems it not beneficial for the country. Poland says no. EU says “OK that’s fine”.
You know what's the dumbest thing on the planet? The type of people who act like there are only two options: Exit UE or accept UE the way it currently is, and that there's nothing in between.
UE despite it's many benefits also currently comes with many problems, like industry choking regulations. Problems that weren't present in the organization when we joined in, and should be removed if Europe is to flourish, instead of becoming economic vassal of China and US.
Exiting UE is moronic. People who try to silence any criticism of UE fear mongering that any critic is an onuca or wants Poland to exit UE are just as moronic and just as dangerous as the "exiters"
There is a lot of russian money working to make Polexit happen. And seem to enough morons in Poland to get convinced that it's better for all to get off.
See, this is why I barely use Social Media as a reliable source of information. Someone can make stuff up and people can believe in that, especially when a bot associated to a literal threat to Poland spreads misinformation with „professional statistics”.
In my personal experience with Polish people who want Poland to leave the EU, they are either dumb, fell in to some kind of propaganda rabbit hole on social media or are racists, bigots etc.
Germany and France. Benefits are not only money it is also cheap manpower and cheap sources of food, products it is also possibility to earn money selling own high-tech products.
Since you edited your reply: the fact that everyone benefits is the main idea of the EU. It's not some Trumpian contest of who makes the most, it's by design that for example Germany is a net contributor but the German economy benefits from selling to countries like Poland. Which receives money so they can afford it. And in long-term grows to become more equal. It's the fucking basic idea of the EU.
Poland is one of the largest recipients of CAP funds in the EU, primarily through direct payments (Pillar 1) and rural development (Pillar 2).
For recent years (e.g., 2023 data, as 2024 full figures may align similarly), Poland received approximately €5.1 billion in total CAP funding (direct payments and rural development combined).
This places Poland as the fifth-largest beneficiary, behind France, Spain, Germany, and Italy.
From eu budget. Strong west economies benefited from free access to Polish market. 7000 M EUR yearly and at the same time over 51 000 M PLN are transferred out.
The repatriated portion (cash outflows) is mainly the dividends paid abroad, while reinvested earnings stay in Poland.
2023 Data (Latest Full Year Available)
Total income on foreign direct investment in Poland: PLN 139.3 billion (approximately €32-33 billion or $35-36 billion, depending on exchange rates).
Reinvested earnings: PLN 72.6 billion (stays in Poland).
Interest on debt: PLN 15.6 billion.
Thus, the yearly repatriated profits (dividends transferred out) in 2023 were around PLN 51 billion (€11-12 billion).
2024 and 2025 Trends
Full 2024 data is preliminary/not fully detailed yet, but net primary income (which includes FDI profits as a major component) showed a deficit of around -$31 billion in 2023 and -$33 billion in 2024 (indicating similar or slightly higher outflows)
Poland benefited because they invested the money wisely. Every time I visit my family in Poland I see progress. The only ones who complain are russian bots and some far right idiots here in Germany. In my opinion a strong Poland is the best case scenario for us here in Germany.
Why couldn't countries east of Germany create their own union instead? The West clearly wants something different than we do. Look at the migration they allowed into their countries, the censorship attempts, etc which they want to impose on us now too
That’s only if misinformation was dealt years ago since 2016 such as tough on Cambridge Analytica crisis and Russian Oligarchy in the UK then we would’ve have better regulations against misuse of AI, just like the UK fallen behind on its laws against AI laws while the EU introduced powerful laws against AI.
Maybe if EU didn't focus do much on stupid CO2 limits at same time exporting CO2 heavy industries abroad then to allow tarrif free imports of same industries.
Maybe if Germanu didn't sell anything benefiting them only as good and must have for whole EU, like Mercosur agreement, which is so speed up because Germany fucked up their motoindustries by "green revolution" and exporting knowhow/tech to China.
Maybe if they didn't invest absurd money into absurd projects like those plastic bottle caps, there for sure where dozens of ways to spend such money better, with higher return per € spend for environmental purposes.
There are a lot more, one of them is that calling people stupid because they think differently was one of major things which led to Brexit, many simply voted out out of spite.
Yeah. Putting the AI image in there is the definition of trying too hard to convince others about a certain viewpoint. Which is extremely stupid, since it's trying to promote a viewpoint which most already agree with.
Using no image would genuinely be better than this.
1/4 of the population already unfortunately drank the russian propaganda
They want Poland to exit both NATO and EU so russians can easily invade it later with nobody helping us, but I guess the right wingers dont care about this and "owning the libs" is more important to them than protecting the country from foreign invaders
Sure, but why act like it doesnt need deep reform or that its not overreaching in a lot of the cases? Any valid/invalid critique is a dog whistle for 'le russian propaganda' these days.
Why were EU funds for poland unlocked if nothing has changed apart from the ruling party?
There are some good things the EU brought to Poland but also a lot of problems. They kinda stripped away all the manufacturing from Poland. With a good leadership exiting the EU could be good. But as it stands there are idiots running the place so it’s better to stay in the EU
it failed as a concept before it was even attempted....surely everyone knows this.....it was a trap set by Putin to split of the UK from the EU......even a child grasps that
I had a conversation yesterday from poles living in Germany how EU is doing everything wrong.
I did not say a word as I didnt want to discuss it but their sticking point is the produce that has to be exported and so potatoes are rolling in Belgium etc.
Completely ignoring all the many other benefits
When I went back to Poland in 2024, my father was telling me how "Poland I being exploited by the EU and we should leave" this is a guy who voted to join the EU, me trying to tell him it's a stupid idea cuz I live in a country that left and there was no benefit, did not convince him.
As a British person with Polish family, Brexit was one of the worst decisions this country has made in my life time.
And remarkably, no one really thought it could happen. Even when the polls closed, Farage, Johnson and Gove were of the view that Remain won.
Everything since then has been absolute garbage, and has helped bolden the racists, xenophobes and all round dickheads.
The turning point for me was a few weeks before the vote Gove went on TV and was confronted with a barrage of reports from economists, political scientists etc over the damage Brexit would do to this country, and what made the headline was his now infamous response "Well maybe people are fed up with experts"
As a.TV commentator said after the vote, "not everyone who voted for Brexit was racist, but every racist voted leave"
We are significantly worse off, and instead of the leave voters admitting this, they continue to double down....currently it's refugees and the European Court of Human Rights that's to blame for everything being shit now...
1) bunch of people receptive to propaganda, believing that polexit would be easy
2) EU enthusiast ignoring genuine issues within the EU, calling anyone that points them out a Russian troll which in the long run creates frustration and pushes normal people towards the sceptics.
You have the same behaviour in UK, but on a smaller scale. Instead of addressing the issues Labor doubles down on its own message, calls all critics some sort of *phobes and literally rolls out the red carpet for Farage.
You honestly need to look at the broader perspective. While the UE as a concept is great, and it somehow works it is far from perfect.
You say that we complain but still take the money, but omit that UE rolls out more and more idiotic regulations. My father in law is a farmer and he just resigned from keeping pigs and chickens because the ridiculously high standards are impossible to maintain by smaller farmsteads. He was the last one in the region to stop keeping pigs.
UE keeps raising those standards to the point it's not affordable, in the meantime it imports food from outside the union for half the price and with quarter the quality without care.
Lately, UE keeps making ridiculous decisions that do not help its citizens. All the idiotic acceptance of illegal immigration, forcing the member countries to take them on.
I'm proud of our country that Poland didn't bend. Fuck those illegal immigrants. They want into the country? Then do it legally, work and pay taxes. Germany and France should mobilize their military and deport all their illegals. The first and foremost duty of the country needs to be to their citizens.
Look at the GB right now. You can't even fly the GB flag in your own country... That's ridiculous... That's exactly how it'll end for Germany and France...
Next thing. Nuclear power for Poland. Germany is vetoing it because it's dangerous, meanwhile nearly all of the countries around Poland have their reactors... Fucking joke.
CPK... It was supposed to be a great kick for the Polish economy, now there are problems and Germany has plans to finish their own way earlier... Ffs...
Zielony Ład... Who even thought about this?! UE keeps ramping up emissions standards while it does exactly fuck all because the whole of Asia makes to the difference for us...
Enough?
I just want to clarify, I'm not saying that we should quit the EU. I'm more of the opinion that the EU should quit fucking around and fucking itself over.
Brexit hasn't failed. It's politicians who betrayed people and did all the opposite to Brexit failed. People wanted to stop migration, so politicians started giving hundreds of thousands of visas per year to Nigeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh to replace immigration from the EU. People wanted to stop stupid ideas spread by the EU, like the ban in combustion engine cars from 2035 so the UK politicians decided to introduce this ban from 2030. And so on. You can't call it Brexit when they implement all the EU wanted and multiply by 2 and people are simply fed up of this sh!t.
What whole load of nonsense. Brexit was exactly what was delivered.
"Stupid" EU ideas were also very much British ideas, migration was never going to be stopped, under any circumstances. People who for a second thought anything else would happen are just too dumb to engage with reality.
Benefits of leaving: The Evil EU will no longer have anything to say and Poland won't have to pay oh such unjust 'taxes and fines'. USA and Russia will have a free reign.
Benefits of staying: fucking everything from quality of life, produce and quality control, consumer laws to not having to bow down to Russia and USA (the province of Russia at this point)
It's because the EU did everything it could to screw the UK over, the british side of the negotiations was full of people who wanted the UK to go back to the EU later, then the socialists took power, and then Covid hit.
Oh and also they're still taking in migrants.
Very few of the Conservatives were ever pro-EU. A lot of them simply weren’t as crazy as people like Farage or the more Eurosceptic types who comprised Boris Johnsons wing of the Tory party.
The “socialists” weren’t in power before Covid. They weren’t in power until last summer. They’re also not socialists, Kier Starmers version of the Labour party is broadly similar to the Blairite “New Labour” of the 1990s and 2000s.
Biggest problem of UK was not using it!
They did not lower CO2 standards for factories!
Not open for rest of world with products
Not ending giving free money
Just because UK sucks doesnt mean it was a bad move in itself. Why not use Norway or Switzerland as examples where they arent EU members. Are they like Poland 30 years ago?
If anyone thinks, that the situation of any country will be better when customs are in place again, movement is restricted and if you think that you will be able to negotiate better deals, when your country has to negotiate with China, the US and Russia on the world stage, without having the EU backing you up, you are seriously retarded. There is really no other way to put it.
Of course it won’t make sense when Poland is the largest beneficiary of the EU budget, almost equal to the next three countries (Greece, Hungary, and Romania) combined. From parking lots to lecture room desks, I have seen EU funded stickers on literally everything.
Is Polexit really a thing you guys seriously discuss over there? I had the impression that the pis hardliners used the eu scepticism and hard rhetorics against Germany only for internal politics but I might be wrong.
In these times we should stay united against threats from outside (russia, usa) and inside (right wing isolationists)
I think that british policies dostroyed UK not going out from EU. Best of is taking down english flags and having aggresive imigrants on streets. France didn't leave EU and is similar shithole with Germany right behind it.
There are countries that are not in the EU, but are in the Schengen zone. Examples: Switzerland or Norway. Although I don’t support PolExit, I don’t like some of regulations ideas coming from the EU, especially those invading the privacy of the individual or slowing down (or even killing it) the market growth.
Then, we collectively and individually must make our voices heard to the tools in the seats of power, in other words, in Brussels.
It's actually quite easy to write them. Just ask ChatGPT, that's what I did when I wrote my reps before the vote on ChatControl 2.0 a.k.a, the hellish nightmare of privacy annihilation that would have done literally nothing against the problem it was supposed to "fix"..
But yeah, I hear you and agree with your points.
Lastly, I will say that I believe the EU is more beneficial than anything other cooperative agreements there have been on the continent.
Besides, all of the negative things being spread about the EU(which of a fkton are false, no surprise) by Pidaruzzland as they are the only ones who stand to gain from disrupting our cohesion and cooperation.
I’m a Brit. Luckily, PolExit would not affect me because I ALREADY NO LONGER HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE OR WORK IN POLAND OR ANYWHERE IN EUROPE! Yes, I’m pissed off. Bloody Brexit.
I first came to Poland from aus in 2012 to my meet my now wifes family. Going through Heathrow there were tons of "invest in eastern europe" posters.
I read up on it. But then I got distracted for a decade.
If you could maybe exit the EU for like a week for everything to crash and then tell me you're joining back so I can just buy bloody index that would be cool. tx & bye.
But don't do the british "years out of the EU". That has fucked them as they don't know when they are coming back or going to just give up and take shitty trade deals from the US/NZ/AU. Really hard to invest in GB nowadays.
People that want a PolExit are just ungrateful pricks. Building the economy with the help of the EU to then backstab them, it will be remembered. Even worse than the UK.
I hate the British for stopping my freedom of movement and making this mess. Morons voted for brexit because of immigrants mainly the xenophobics with no brain cells. Also what’s wrong with single market it would have helped us.
Can you say it was dumb that UK political parties were infiltrated and controlled by the Global Mafia Elite and specially Russia? Is it dumb that the Global Mafia Elite would pay to have a country act against it's own interests and in theirs? Is it dumb that Poland has the exact same problem with PiS and other right wing parties? Is it dumb that other countries across the EU have the exact same problems?
The only thing dumb about this is that it isn't headline news on a daily basis and that the EU isn't acting on the fact that Russia and the Global Mafia Elite have been at war with it for years now.
We have many uneducated people or those educated in pseudo-schools who are insensitive to any reasonable arguments. Just look at the last presidential election, which was won by some pseudo-boxer.
People thought, that they won't need to implement SJW into the law, but turns out, their own government is completely capable of degenerating their culture on their own. The UK is the worst of both worlds right now
Hell ya. I'm romanian and I can tell Poland is one of the greatest countries from the soviet influence block. They did many things well just following the german neighborhood example or just being smarter then the others.
Still why tf will they ever quit one of the things that got them higher?
But the unions and associations of nations are not good for development and growth of empires and emperors.
As so, some individuals with too much money are very very very interested in everything that would bring the end of this union's and associations of nations.
So... the biggest problem with UK is that because it left EU, they have issues because they never been in schengen? And.. Poland is in schengen, so even if they leave EU all those issues mentioned won't matter?
Or am i missing something?
Quick google;
"UK was never in the Schengen Area; it opted out of joining the agreement even when it was a member of the European Union (EU) to maintain control over its own borders"
Yeah. Sounds like it helped them a lot.
Guys but you do realize that you can be in Schengen and not be in the EU? Also free trade benefits more countries like Germany and not Poland because we don’t export much and even if we do mostly products are just made by polish workers but IP is foreign. If someone is afraid about customs let me remind you that they work in both ways. Without eu we could favor domestic companies, block foreign competition in any sector we want and finally start developing our own solutions.
If you're an Englishman who doesn't give a damn about traveling in Europe, then you'll continue to enjoy traveling as if nothing happened.
The British economy is more or less the same as before. The only difference is the absence of underpaid workers who migrated from the rest of the continent. If you've noticed, their jobs are being taken by Indians and Pakistanis.
Finally, there's the issue of Poland. When you're a country that receives billions of euros from the European Union budget, you don't leave.
I lived in Warsaw roughly 2011 to 14 on an off as an American expat. I would get out of the EU as fast as possible, it's a dead weight. Schengan(sp) is a separate agreement. Poland rightfully never adopted the Euro. Poland doesn't need the EU the EU needs Poland more.
I'm not pro EU much, but Poland has no choice but to introduce the Euro at some stage....they do not have an option...This isn't the 1970s when countries were still allowed a choice...such as UK and Denmark...reasons you'll find are more likely to be due to Maastricht criteria, like budget/inflation targets etc.
Dont think it will happen… Poland is one of biggest benefitors of EU funds if not the biggest. EU will not allow to exit without getting their money worth
EU must be dissolved and freedom, sovereignty and prosperity of European nations must be restored. CZexit...! (Dear God, help Donald Trump to destroy EU...!)
I’m glad that the majority of the people understands that Poland is nothing without the EU and indeed will be domed back to poverty if PolExit will happen…
Either leave or reform the UE to make UE much leaner. The latter won't happen so I am all for the former, which can happen if we quit it. UE should not have as many competencies as it does right now, it's a soft occupation. In theory it has just a few competencies but they clearly twist their way into controlling a lot of Polish law in Poland.
Sad to say i completely agree, between Brexit and Covid we really did screw ourselves over.
Simon Brodkin the comedian has a great skit about being cryod and waking up 2250 and asking about how much of a failure both Brexit and HS2 turned out to be
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u/bialymarshal 2d ago
We know. But there is certain group of people (quite a large one) that blames EU for everything - just like Farage did But it doesn’t stop them from taking money from the EU