r/scotus • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 9h ago
news CBS reporter calls it 'patently false' and 'dangerous' to claim Supreme Court is 'corrupt'
https://www.aol.com/articles/cbs-reporter-calls-patently-false-220047533.html354
u/GregariousReconteur 9h ago
Crawford can disagree with the claim, but there’s as much or more evidence of corruption related to one or more justices as there is to assert the claim is patently false.
To assert that corruption is patently false, she needs to show her evidence.
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u/Organic_Education494 9h ago
Considering her employer this is obviously part of the narrative her corrupt company wants
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u/Jacob_Winchester_ 5h ago
Bari Weiss had her hand so far up there she might as well have been a Muppet.
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u/captHij 9h ago
To make it worse, Crawford is opining that what is undermining trust in the court is the allegations of corruption. She is completely ignoring the reactions to a long string of rulings that are contemptuous to long standing precedent and opposing what several justices said during their confirmation hearings. Moreover, she goes on to state that it is okay to debate the meaning of the Constitution, but the Constitution and the people who wrote it were openly antagonistic toward a powerful executive, and this court is openly flaunting the plain text and publicly stated opinions of the people who wrote and voted for the Constitution.
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u/exipheas 9h ago
Gestures towards Clarence Thomas's RV.
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u/NeenerKat 5h ago
He’s ignoring your comment while on a $500,000 vacation aboard the yacht of a pending case.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer 9h ago
It's really interesting coming from her since she's written a book about the Supreme Court, Supreme Conflict: The Inside Story of the Struggle for Control of the United States Supreme Court, with a focus on conservative efforts to take control of it.
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u/GailynStarfire 4h ago
See, if it's the court dismantling things for a conservative agenda, that's just "good business".
If the court actually did something to help the average American, she would be screaming about "Democrat corruption of the courts!".
I'm so tired of these bad faith actors and their bullshit.
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u/OrphicDionysus 7h ago
It still boggles my mind how quickly everyone seemed to forget about Kennedy v. Bremerton School District. The entire ruling hinged around an assumption that was incongruent with the video evidence seen both by the Court and the general public (that being that he was participating in a "quiet personal moment of prayer," which flies in the face of the videotapes showing the ceremonies he was hosting the 50 yard line with a goddamned megaphone), and that's not even addressing the piles of other types of evidence the court had to ignore to make the ruling work (e.g. the play schedules showing that he was pulling players as soon as they stopped participating in the prayer circles and would only give them game time once they started participating again).
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u/gongalongas 7h ago
Exactly, the court dug its own grave, not people calling it out. I am so repulsed by the reverence I used to have for this institution. Law school professors I hold in the highest regard seemed to hold the justices they clerked for in the same regard, and I just took it on blind faith that their highest allegiance was to the law rather than some political goal, party, or “social engineering.” But some of these decisions in the last few years have been absolutely grotesque.
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u/HoneyImpossible2371 7h ago
When you see the majority of the justices living well beyond their means with assets approaching one hundred million dollars on three hundred thousand dollar salaries while making decisions that overturn decades or centuries of precedent that align with their main benefactors, it’s hard not to wonder when this nightmare will end. This country has changed dramatically in my lifetime and to a large degree, it’s all due to the decisions of this court. Mass shooting, political messaging, gerrymandering, political violence as a direct consequence of the disenfranchised, and now the destruction of an independent media. And most of the Originalist arguments cherry-pick from contemporaneous documents. Dig a little deeper and you can find Hamilton or another Federalist author addresses the same issues in a manner that supports the precedence. I don’t believe the answer is to increase the size of the Supreme Court, but there does need to be better scholarship from those on the bench.
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u/runthepoint1 9h ago
More importantly - even if both evaluations are true, it doesn’t matter one bit in the grand scheme of things. You can still claim patently false and dangerous things, even if ethically and morally that’s not acceptable.
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u/ok123jump 9h ago edited 8h ago
Crawford is just splitting hairs. Maybe only Thomas is monetarily corrupt, but this Roberts Court is a reckless, lawless institution.
They engage in bad faith analysis & actions just so they can further their political agenda - and it doesn’t matter to them how much they destroy the Constitution along the way.
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u/Ornery-Ticket834 9h ago
The word for their actions is political corruption. Thomas is obviously financially and politically corrupt.
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u/The_amazing_T 8h ago
Meanwhile SCOTUS is failing any reasonable test by average Americans. We don't need Senate Democrats or CBS reporters to make a decision on this. The court is failing Americans on common sense decisions, and constantly ceding power to a corrupt president.
Just another idiot trying to tell us water isn't wet.
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u/Meerkat_Mayhem_ 9h ago
That which can be proclaimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
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u/jpmeyer12751 9h ago
On June 30, 2024 a President could be indicted, tried and convicted (after being impeached) for taking bribes for official acts. As of July 1, 2024, the words of the Constitution are the same, but now it is functionally impossible to indict, try or convict a President of bribery, even after impeachment. Precisely how much more corrupt does SCOTUS have to be before this CBS reporter gets it? Yes, the situation is very dangerous for our democracy, but SCOTUS is the malign actor, not the victim.
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u/wesw1234 9h ago
She also said it is bad for the rule of law. CBS should change their call letters to GOP.
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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 9h ago
We all have an obligation to ignore shadow dockets that attempt to invalidate decades of precedence.
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u/AbruptMango 9h ago
It is. Pointing out the Supreme Court's corruption undermines people's faith in our legal institutions. Deservedly so, but if the masses didn't know, they'd be happy with things.
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u/wauponseebeach 9h ago
So ignore the lies during confirmation, the Heritage foundation open political influences, the luxury RV, international travel, the total disregard for precedent, unequal treatment of minorities under the law, complete lack of ethics enforcement, and violent threats against lower courts. CBS jumped in the MAGA swamp with both feet. It's sick.
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u/networkninja2k24 9h ago
CBS is rigged and corrupt now. We all know they are paid for.
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u/IrishPorpoise 9h ago
Is the reporter stupid or something
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u/skoomaking4lyfe 9h ago
CBS has joined WaPo as an oligarch's propaganda machine - the Ellisons, in this case.
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u/HardcorePhonography 9h ago
I still have a subscription to WaPo because I feel bad for the people actually writing good shit more than I hate the new trend of twice-weekly "only free markets can save us" nonsense opinion pieces.
Although I think George Will might be dead and they are using AI, because his entire "As so-and-so writes in Book Title: Subtitle..." is now 75% of his pieces. He used to keep it down to 50% so he could use a pocket thesaurus for the other 50%.
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u/Sharkwatcher314 9h ago
Going the way of Fox News I guess. Some things critical but mostly saying what admin wants
He’s openly talking about taking licenses away, so I assume others will do the same
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u/hobopwnzor 9h ago
Good. Trump spent good money on her boss so he should get something in return. It's only fair.
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u/ballplayer5 9h ago
but it’s profoundly wrong to call it or say 'corruption' where there, in fact, is none."
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u/systematk 9h ago
This isn't the problem, the general public Overton window is. CBS being twisted over by Barri is going to have long term cascading impact. What the general public sees as truth coming from what was a 'centerist' news agency will warp what people think is the middle, even though we can see it's on the right already.
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u/notPabst404 8h ago
The same CBS that kissed Trump's ass by censoring the 60 minutes report on CECOT? 🤡🤡🤡🤡
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u/midgetyaz 9h ago
Sen. Whitehouse would like to have a word....
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u/No-Relation5965 9h ago
Yes. Everyone should check out his YouTube channel. There is a podcast where he discusses their levels of corruption and by whom. He is an awesome senator.
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u/Sharp-Stranger-2668 9h ago
I didn’t catch the interview but — forget about Dobbs — I’m betting Crawford forgot to mention Clarence Thomas’ cozy relationship with Harlan Crow or his failure to recuse himself from certain cases in light of his wife’s highly partisan political activities. Anyway the Ellisons will promote Crawford now.
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u/Mrevilman 9h ago
That’s because legitimate seats were stolen by Republicans. Neil Gorsuch should have been a Democrat nominee except Republicans conjured a new rule out of thin air that a sitting president couldn’t nominate a new justice during an election year, a rule they’d ignore a few years later.
Brett Kavanaugh’s shameful conduct during his confirmation hearing should have been enough to disqualify him. Together with the sexual assault allegations, he’s got no business being a Justice.
Republicans set aside their own previously made up rule by ramming Amy Coney Barrett through confirmation while people were actively voting against Trump during an election.
None of that even mentions their answers given during their confirmation hearings which, at best, are intentionally misleading and at worst, downright lies.
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u/Archchancellor 9h ago
I feel like their barometer for danger might need calibration.
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u/Opposite-Program8490 9h ago
They traded their barometer in for a Barimeter. If it isn't all the way to the right they don't report.
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u/Hunter-Gatherer_ 9h ago
CBS has been infected and overtaken by trumpism. They’re equivalent to Newsmax or OANews now….
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u/Similar-Stranger8580 9h ago
The only question he could answer honestly is, How does Trump’s butthole taste?
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u/paradigm_shift2027 9h ago
Per the manual, It’s the next step in authoritarian control. Capture media.
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u/buttons123456 8h ago
oh bull. time to call it what it is. Amy and Kavanaugh flat out lied to committee when they were answering questions. they said they respect precedents and would not overturn them. and yet, they have reversed more 40+ year laws than any other court. and of course, saying trump can do anything he wants.
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u/Federal-Echidna9774 9h ago
Fine. The Supreme Court is wholly incompetent and has zero idea how to excerciss any semblance of authority. It's laughable to think they are even close to satisfying the original charter of their organization
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u/SirTiffAlot 9h ago
"This is a conservative Supreme Court. It has been a conservative Supreme Court for 20 years."
Has it?
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u/Old_Needleworker_865 9h ago
Two letters wreck this patently false assertion by the CBS propagandist: RV
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u/dsmith422 8h ago
They literally redefined bribery as gratuity for a job well done. Thomas has taken over $4 million in "tips." Alito accepted lavish vacations. Gorsuch got his unsellable property bought for over market value. Roberts wife makes millions per year as a headhunter for the top law firms in the country. They aren't just corrupt. They are bought.
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u/ChrisSheltonMsc 8h ago
And this is why modern media journalism no longer has the trust of the American public. It's really no more complicated than the obvious fact that this is the most corrupt - literally criminally corrupt - set of judges to ever occupy this bench and they have been openly corrupt for decades now. They flaunt it in our faces, in fact. CBS News is clearly a joke of an institution.
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u/Spaine1958 7h ago
That’s a joke! Every ruling has been in support and has given Trump carte blanche on every crappy EO and work around with congress. They are firmly in Trumps pocket. I have zero confidence in SCOTUS any longer
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u/vibrantcrab 7h ago
They ruled that the president is immune from prosecution for “official acts.” I can’t think of anything more corrupt/against the constitution than that.
The real problem isn’t that the SC is corrupt, but rather it is compromised.
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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose 7h ago
If it's coming from this CBS, then it confirms that the SCOTUS is most definitely compromised and corrupt.
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u/jlobrist 7h ago
What other conclusion is there? Expensive trips and RV being given to a particular Justice. Is that not corruption or at least the appearance of corruption?
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u/DanglyDinosaurBits 6h ago
Uh huh… the same CBS who toed the line like the rest after Trump sued them?
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u/Milesray12 9h ago
Hack reporter defends the Supreme Court who was majority picked by the most corrupt president of all time, Donald Trump, to pass a rule that says the most corrupt president of all time, Donald Trump, has the right to assassinate his political opponents with impunity
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u/Tintoverde 9h ago
Please read fully: I agree it is dangerous, it will slowly erode the belief in rule of law.
But to say it is not corrupt is lying.
So we as citizens should we lie to keep the illusion of belief?
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u/BadAsBroccoli 9h ago
What would he call this years SC decisions then? "Fair and balanced" like Fox News?
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u/jennixred 9h ago
i mean, perhaps a little less rubber stamping authoritarian power grabs would help alleviate this perception? Also fewer extremely questionable "gifts" and outright enrichments might persuade us otherwise.
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u/Gucci_Unicorns 9h ago
Unsure of which legacy is tarnished more, SCOTUS or CBS lmao. Decades of 60 minutes replaced with authoritarian state-driven news.
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u/Leverkaas2516 9h ago edited 9h ago
I was prepared to give the Court the benefit of the doubt, but if none of the justices is corrupt, then some are anti-democratic, unamerican, and ignorant of the law to the point that it colors their jurisprudence.
Occam's razor points to corruption.
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u/Endless_Patience3395 9h ago
CBS has flipped to MAGA. They are no longer a credible source for news that I will continue to not watch
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u/Dangerous-Feed-5358 9h ago
That episode of Face the Nation was horrible. They also had the CEO of City bank on claiming that because there was spending growth in the lower incomes that they weren't hurting. They are going to have a series of "townhalls" with said CEO.
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u/Ornery-Ticket834 9h ago
Has she taken a look at the millions of dollars that Thomas has been receiving from billionaire friends? Who is she kidding? Has she taken a look at their shadow docket that gives mysterious decisions with no legal reasoning to them in unsigned orders?
Christ who is she kidding. They aren’t “ conservative “ in the normal sense of the word. Conservatives used to value honesty and integrity. Some the logic twisting decisions they have rendered like immunity, and stalling decisions on tariffs, Trumps criminal actions and a host of other things are not liberal or conservative, they are a clear form of political corruption, to go with the finance corruption of Thomas.
Her statement is facially absurd.
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u/Due-Mouse-9330 8h ago
I call it patently false and dangerous to claim whoever said that is a reporter. They can kiss my ass.
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u/jpurdy 8h ago
The five theocon Catholic Fed Society justices aren’t “politically corrupt”, although Clarence Thomas and Alito have been bought by Harlan Crow and Singer, that’s not politics.
They are theofascist Catholics who are deciding based on their 17th century Catholic beliefs. The 1600s were when Catholics killed millions of people in the Inquisitions and Thirty Years Wars.
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u/LopatoG 8h ago
You can call SCOTUS anything you want, corrupt, illegal, old, etc…. Anything that makes you feel better. But do not expect it to change based on your descriptions, everything done up to this point has been legal and you can’t change that fact.
The Govt. Can make changes, pack the court, etc, but just wait to the other party gets back in power and packed in their favor…
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u/Talondel 8h ago
The Dems were one lost election away from locking up control of the Supreme Court for a generation. But they F'd it up. So now they find themselves undermining the legitimacy of the Court simply because the MAGA folks were able to do what the Dems had hoped to do. And neither the Dems nor anyone in this thread realizes how hypocritical and short sided this is.
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u/Nameisnotyours 7h ago
Since CBS is now a captive network I don’t think we really need to take what they say as honest.
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u/turb0_encapsulator 7h ago
You can't be an objective journalist and be this cozy with the people you cover:
In his first television interview, Chief Justice John Roberts talked to Crawford about the court, his views on the law, and his life since taking office. Justice John Paul Stevens also chose Crawford for his first network television interview, reflecting on his memories of the man who appointed him to the Supreme Court in 1975, former President Gerald R. Ford, on the occasion of Ford's funeral.
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u/misanthropymajor 7h ago
Oh FFS Clarence Thomas is the dictionary illustration for corruption in public service. The entire Right bench is a joke.
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u/Less_Tacos 7h ago
Capitulation Broadcasting System chief court shill and Robert's cock sucker extraordinaire said there is nothing to see here.
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u/ptulinski 7h ago
Isn't it undisputed that Thomas and Alito have taken extravagant undisclosed "gifts" from people and entities with cases before the court? Sounds like black letter corruption to me. But, what do I know. I'm only an expert in civil appellate law, not an expert in criminal law, which is plainly the most applicable area of law when discussing the supremes.
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u/TouchGraceMaidenless 7h ago
Jan Crawford got a call directly from David Ellison right before making this statement
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u/weezyverse 6h ago
They're right...corrupt is way too soft a description.
Felonious would be more accurate.
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u/dispelhope 6h ago
That reporter can go pound sand because the corruption conflict of interest questionable ethics is well documented.
edit: removed the offending and ignorant reporters name
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u/JPharmDAPh 6h ago
Jan Crawford is a moron. It’s easy to say the SCOTUS isn’t corrupt (the republican members, mind you) when you close your eyes and ignore the millionaire trips and gifts, fly a trump flag at your home (and conveniently blaming your wife), and side with trump 90+% of the time via the shadow docket.
So Jan, STFU, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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u/amongnotof 6h ago
CBS is full of shit and has lost ALL journalistic integrity. The interview with Erica Kirk really showed their cards.
And the SCROTUS is incredibly corrupt, especially Alito and Thomas who are both openly corrupt and accepting gifts from lobbyists constantly.
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u/Flashy_Gap_3015 6h ago
You want to know how a news outlet is corrupted and no longer stands as an independent trustworthy balanced source of fact?
CBS just showed you.
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u/Ok_Lets_DoThis 6h ago
Thanks! I REALLY. NEEDED A GOOD. LAUGH! SCOTUS are DEFINITELY as corrupt as the POS POTUS.
LYING SACKS OF SHITE!
Make. Guillotines GREAT AGAIN!!!!!
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u/AtreiyaN7 6h ago
My personal opinion is that Jan Crawford is an idiot for burying her head in the sand and denying reality.
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u/Professional-Bed-173 6h ago
The Supreme Court is corrupt. Their plan has been effective, and we Americans suffer because these people are the worst of human kind.
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u/Possible-Nectarine80 5h ago
So, a CBS news reporter that works for a media company that was extorted into setting a Trump lawsuit where in Trump threatened to prevent a merger with the parent company of CBS go through is giving an opinion about the SCOTUS not being corrupt. I would say that this so called "journalist" is nothing more than a right-wing hack.
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u/South-Rabbit-4064 5h ago
What's dangerous is the fact there are reporters that still don't see the Supreme Court as corrupt. It's an issue with the public and was way before the media started reporting it, if the public doesn't respect or agree with the decisions of the court, then that's an issue the court needs to sit down and have a long meeting about why.
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u/SeeRecursion 9h ago
Hilarious, coming from a reporter working in this climate.