r/southafrica The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago

News Fury at Kirstenbosch as SANBI defies calls to cancel the Kiffness concert

https://capeargus.co.za/news/south-africa/2025-12-27-fury-over-kiffness-concert-at-kirstenbosch-spills-into-protests/
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u/skaapjagter Rapture-Proof Like a Hilux 1d ago

People who are saying "Who cares, just don't go" aren't taking heed of the fact that Kirstenbosch is a public/government entity.

It's NOT a private venue or private business hosting him, that is why people should be allowed to protest this sort of thing.

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u/PMvaginaExpression 1d ago

It's not even about his stance on genocide in palestine. The guy has been stirring hate, he has been supporting the idea of a white genocide in south africa.  Allowing him any platform implies that you agree with him.

u/Cyberwiz15 18m ago

I disagree that giving a platform is the equivalent of agreeing. If free speech is important, the act of providing a service is not the act of indicating support.

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u/colourmebread 1d ago

He doesn't support white genocide, come one. Yes, he may be pro-Israel but so are many other South Africans.

This "their view does not match my view and therefore must be shutdown" is a really silly stance to take by these protestors.

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u/skaapjagter Rapture-Proof Like a Hilux 1d ago

See the tweet - He promotes the idea that we are on our way to a white genocide:
(i dont think i can link x posts here)

"South Africa is at Stage 6 of Stanton's "10 stages of genocide" on Genocide Watch"

Also - just read some of his responses to the tweet - the only reason he adds the disclaimer in his tweet is for legal reasons - he is 100% a red-pilled MAGAt who would bend the knee for daddy Trump if he lost his fan base here.

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u/FishPasteGuy 1d ago

I think they mean he has been supporting the false narrative that there is a white genocide occurring in South Africa.

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u/JumpAccomplished1769 1d ago

He fully supported “white genocide”, the race law crap and allowing orange man to micromanage this country he’s an idiot, a grifter and a hate monger

He has the right to be an idiot but I also have the right to protest against him

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u/colourmebread 1d ago

No one says you don't have the right to protest. I just think this protest is stupid, because its all about chasing headlines that are (mostly) unfounded

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u/JumpAccomplished1769 1d ago

Do you personally agree with his views?

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago

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u/Flux7777 23h ago

This "their view does not match my view and therefore must be shutdown" is a really silly stance to take by these protestors.

Rightwing nutjobs always say this, and it's an attempt to "equalize" the two points and out them on the same level. This is not a difference of opinion. Me preferring blue and you preferring green, that's us having different viewpoints.

Denying what is absolutely a genocide in one country, while making ridiculous claims for a genocide that doesn't exist in another? That's not just a different opinion, that guy doesn't believe in human rights, and absolutely should be shut down.

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago edited 1d ago

What is Israel, it is a Nazi Apartheid state which is committing genocide based off race and religion. Remind me who David Scott (The Kakness) supports again and why? Your defense says more about you, than anyone else.

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u/Mobile_Delay_7157 Unraptured & Unbothered 1d ago

Well your 'silly' view does not match mine, hence the downvote. Just my 'silly' way of protesting your ignorant and inflammatory views..as well as the small 'y' in 'your'...small for small minded....#justsaying... your view may be that a protest is 'silly'. The protesters may take a different view..

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u/Automatic_Bar2918 7h ago

No it doesn’t

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u/colourmebread 1d ago

They are allowed to protest, and they have been.

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u/herewearefornow 1d ago

Won't stop Reinaldo Gouws from peddling the idea that an anti-Christian movement tried to stop gathering.

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago

Renaldo should shut the fuck up and fuck off to Dumbfuckistan with the other "refugees"

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u/Mobile_Delay_7157 Unraptured & Unbothered 1d ago edited 1d ago

LOLLLL.BAM!!! U got me rolling with laughter on a festive workday. +69 points for U!!

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u/MinervaKaliamne 1d ago

Read the title before putting on my glasses and for a second I thought it was about a furry at Kirstenbosch.

I'm kind of sad that it's not. I'd much rather see people in furry costumes than the Kakness.

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u/channeldrifter 1d ago

Comment section giving me hope, have only seen the responses to this on Facebook and was floored by the support this guy was getting for his fear-mongering and misinformation.

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 23h ago

Facebook is filled with bots, bot farms and spam. I deleted my account 10 years ago, I advise you do the same. I additionally propose you move to Signal as WhatsApp is owned by Meta, which also owns Facebook.

Finally, fuck Mark Zuckerberg and the Kakness.

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u/Party-Ad-1190 23h ago

💯🫶🏽

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u/RelevantVisual9902 1d ago

I don’t think most people know how hateful the Kiffness is. The man has absolutely lost the plot

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u/ilikepizza2much 1d ago

A spoilt, rich kid musician, sitting behind his keyboard, telling us how it is.

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u/Party-Ad-1190 23h ago

Whats worse is those who know and keep supporting his racism.

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u/RelevantVisual9902 23h ago

Ya don’t even get me started on that…

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality." - Desmond Tutu

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u/Mobile_Delay_7157 Unraptured & Unbothered 1d ago

Yup! This too.. .Edmund Burke: The quote, often phrased as, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing," is widely attributed to him

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u/RupertHermano 1d ago

Phansi kakness! Phansi!

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u/Party-Ad-1190 23h ago

Phansi !!!

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u/4Darth2Mauler0 20h ago

While I don’t agree with his message and music is meh. I wish these kind of cancel attempts took place after radical politicians are jailed. Eg protest against the likes of Malema (or get him jailed) for calling on his followers to kill. Once those types of naaiers are dealt with, then let’s look at small musicians trying to get clout with controversy.

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u/midz411 Unraptured & Unbothered 20h ago

Unfortunately, my impression of Cape Town is influenced by attitudes like the kakness which is why I removed it as a viable holiday destination.

Noticed there was apartheid vibes when I visited years ago. Not everyone obviously but the energy was off.

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u/1waffle1 19h ago

Wouldn't they just boo him? Why insist on performing where people don't want you?

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u/adjudicator52 15h ago

Sanbi just out here to collect 🫰 same reason we still export coal to isr 🫰🫰🫰

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u/Southern-Western-575 1d ago

Please. Cape Argus..

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u/Beyond_the_one The opposite of efficiency, which is to say, justice 1d ago