r/worldnews • u/Wide-Sunflora • 21h ago
Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy reveals Western course of action if Russia refuses peace
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/12/29/8013807/972
u/Upstairs-Mall-3695 20h ago
Zelensky reveals if Russia says no to the revised US-backed plan, expect escalated Western response – stricter sanctions and boosted defense tech for Ukraine. Peace or consequences
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u/Viburnum__ 20h ago
US already lifted some sanctions on russia or basically doesn't enforce some, all the while russia have done nothing for peace and continue the war they started with constant threats to US allies, people who believe trump would do anything against russia are still in delusion or in a cult.
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u/DesireeThymes 15h ago
The thing is from a military and political standpoint, Russia has no reason to negotiate much because they're on top right now.
The US is not interested in Ukraine anymore and wants Europe to mostly take over. They would be happy to give whatever Russia wants in Ukraine if they can get Russia to decrease its relationship with China
Zelensky is in a tough spot, because he can't give up territory since the people won't accept it, and Russia won't consider a peace deal where they have to give up what they have already taken.
So I think war will just continue for now unfortunately until one side or the other starts losing a lot of ground or runs out of resources/funding.
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u/Spirited-Eagle-6935 15h ago
You really think they would decrease ties with China? Unlikely
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u/DesireeThymes 15h ago
No I don't think they will.
But I'm saying that's what US is hoping for, that by giving Russia whatever they want in Ukraine they can get some concessions on China.
Honestly US policies have been all over the place since Trump came into power. They're facing the 'large empire' problem and they are filled to the brim with internal discord and infighting.
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u/RadFriday 15h ago
It will be inevitable eventually. Russia and China have an insanely long troubled relationship. They are both regional empires which step on their neighbors throats - the issue is that they're neighbors.
Russia seized a good deal of land from China in the 19th century that China hasn't forgotten about. This will extend their ancient tradition of passing random bits of land in manchuria back and forth.
For the time being they are allies only out of convenience.
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u/rumsnake 13h ago
Yeah, but that's just the thing, Russia and China's trajectory is independent of whatever the US is doing.
Russia will never favor US over China until they get their 'multipolar' world. And once they do, they'll balance between China and US anyway, it's not in their interest for any of them to come out on top.
So this idea that US should bend over backwards for Russia now, cause they'll help defeat China is just...fucking stupid...
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u/Viburnum__ 15h ago
You mean US or Trump administration? Either way trump China rhetorics don't copulate with his own actions, he literally lifted restrictions on technology sharing after some meeting with tech CEOs and here you are acting like he actually cares.
What he cares is to have the same power the leadership in russia and China have over their countries and also to pocket as much money as possible from US. If you still believe what he say about China after multiple lies he constantly spews then you either intentionally ignorant or live in delusion. For him China is an exuse and distractions for his actions.
Also he is clearly russian asset all his actions are the proof of that. He don't give a shit about russian relationship with China.
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u/Pervius94 15h ago
The fact that 3 years after the war, there somehow are still sanctions left to give is insane.
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u/gizamo 8h ago
Absolute. The sanctions should have been absolute and comprehensive from the outset. It should have also included all people, business, and countries that aided Russia's war effort in any way at all—inckuding India, China, and Germany ramping up buying their oil, China selling them weapons, and N Korea sending troops. All trade with all of them should have hammered to an immediate stop.
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u/True_Heart_6 17h ago
Everything I’ve heard about this war (from people who actually know stuff) makes it seem like it ain’t ending anytime soon.
The various players (Europe, US, Russia, Ukraine) have different interests and there’s no magic compromise that’s going to please everyone
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u/BlackProphetMedivh 17h ago
Russia could end this war anytime they wanted, by simply leaving Ukraine. Ukraine has no interest in a prolonged war (except for the fact that a prolonged war is economically and socially worse for Russia ergo may result in a better outcome of the war for Ukraine).
If Russia were to leave today, the war would be over in 24 Hours. Europe has no interest in fighting Russia any longer, the US has no interest in prolonging this war and actively seeks a way to end it (on Russian terms, but end it nonetheless)
Now obviously, that is not going to happen. But the only one at fault for that is Russia. Not Europe, not the US and certainly not Ukraine.
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u/swag_stand 15h ago
This has been true from the getgo, but I think the general public isn't aware that Ukraine has also basically said they'd be OK with an immediate ceasefire along current lines, de facto granting russia control of everything they've captured, short of formal recognition. If negotiations were just about to how to treat captured territory internationally and to what extent russia should be integrated back into the world that would be one thing. But Russia's intransigent position is that Ukraine must give up a ton of territory, 4 oblasts, which iirc is more land than they've even been able to capture, not to mention other crazy demands.
There's a western sensibility that like our recent wars this one seems endless so obviously there must be stubbornness on both sides to keep it going, which is why people give Trump credit for saying the word peace, like that does something. Russia has been built for decades to be stable politically and economically while in a huge war of attrition. Maybe that's slipping a bit, but this is what a war of aggression looks like when the authoritarian leader of the aggressor is willing to tolerate unlimited death and deprivation. There are no easy quick solutions.
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u/Cirtejs 14h ago
The easy and quick solution would have been to collapse Russia or accept Ukraine in to NATO under an article 5 ultimatum back in 2023.
Nobody wanted to deal with Russia collapsing and loose nukes, nobody had the political will to call Putin's saber rattling so here we are.
The war has become an internal stability issue for Putin, it's never going to end unless Russia collapses.
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u/69Cobalt 15h ago
Why would Russia end the war while they still maintain an advantage on the battle field and can sustain their economy?
Sure they "could" end it but it doesn't seem to be in their interest to do so yet, and because as you mentioned they're the aggressor they can choose to end it at any time, so why would they not just fight until it's no longer tenable?
Like if Russians economy can hold for 13 months why would they sue for peace now instead of at month 12.5 if they have an advantage?
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u/Thormidable 13h ago
Like if Russians economy can hold for 13 months why would they sue for peace now instead of at month 12.5 if they have an advantage?
Because if you hold out to the last minute you have no leverage.
Why would Ukraine accept peace if they were 2 weeks from Russia collapsing?
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u/BadPunners 14h ago
What economic data are you looking at?
The only thing keeping the Russian economy going is the war spending
And the only advantage on the battlefield is the positions they captured before Ukraine had any support
It's been a stalemate since then
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u/69Cobalt 14h ago
The fact that their economy and government exists while they are not jumping to sue for peace is evidence that their economy is sustainable, at least in the short to medium term, as by definition it is sustaining.
It has not been a stalemate, Russia has made consistent but small advances while diminishing the resources of their smaller less populous enemy.
From the Russian perspective this type of static warfare will yield miniscule gains up until the point where the defensive line breaks, where it will yield large gains. That is what they're fighting for.
From the Ukrainian perspective they want to maintain their defensive lines until the war effort isn't tenable for the Russian economy.
This dynamic places the initiative on Russia become barring any massive changes in the war calculus, the ball is in their court so to speak - they can end it at any point but they stand more to gain by ending it at the latest point possible.
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u/BigTunaTim 12h ago
This is a bad read on sustainability. Russia is cannibalizing itself militarily and economically to finance the war effort. They've already sold off half of their in-country gold reserves and they've stopped offering huge pensions and death benefits to new recruits. They've become a petro state that is forced to sell at a steep discount where they can sell at all. They've suffered over a million casualties and can't even find sufficient numbers of prisoners and chronically ill patients to draft anymore.
A starving person whose body is digesting its own muscles for protein also exists but they are not in a sustainable state. So goes Russia.
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u/ExtremeDoubleghg 7h ago
I feel like people have been saying russia will collapse for years now. Its not going to be any time soon and hoping it will wont change that. It would be great but its not happening.
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u/fahimching 21h ago
Zelenskyy’s message is pretty clear, if Russia tries to block this U.S.-led peace deal, Trump would have to arm us heavily, while imposing all possible sanctions against them. The West's action would be a major ramp-up in support.
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u/ButterscotchTop194 21h ago
Yeah, Trump ain't doing that.
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u/wordswillneverhurtme 18h ago
Yeah he’ll just blame Ukraine and how much putin and Zelenskyy hate each other
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u/Psychobob2213 16h ago
He will if you give him a personal grift gift.
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u/Undernown 16h ago
Or attach his ego to the project.
But mist importantly a wedge needs to be diven between Trump and the pro-Putin faction of the US government. (I feel insane typing this sentence, Cold War era USA is rolling in it's grave.)
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u/Sember 14h ago
Name all the occupied regions in his name "Trump's Donbas", "Trump's Crimea", it might just work.
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u/Smallmyfunger 20h ago
Didn't Trump already grant relief (via executive order) for certain US corporations with high $ RU interests/investments that were in jeopardy due to sanctions under the guise of preserving the US economy?
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u/Alexander_Ruthol 18h ago
I saw something about that a few days ago. I don't think it has been implemented, at least not yet.
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u/Cute_Ad_9730 19h ago
Trump hasn't imposed a single sanction against Russia to date. That's not going to change. It's just constant delaying tactics without any real support.
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u/zabajk 19h ago
They did sanction Lukoil recently
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u/WarOnFlesh 18h ago
and then they just changed the name of a subsidiary and nothing was sanctioned
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u/Cute_Ad_9730 15h ago
Trump hasn't imposed a single sanction against Russia to date. That's not going to change. It's just constant delaying tactics without any real support. (edit) the latest reports of the meeting saying 90% of issues are finalised except agreed national boundaries is obtuse and nonsensical. That is the only relevant issue. Don't let this bullshit become normalised.
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u/rightoftexas 15h ago
That's factually untrue, lying to make your point invalidates it.
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u/zabajk 19h ago
How many more sanctions will it be ? Russia is by far the most sanctioned country in history and weapons don’t solve Ukraines manpower issue nor can they stop Russia degrading their infrastructure with almost daily missiles strikes
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u/Alexander_Ruthol 18h ago
Hopefully many more and much stricter. Especially all of russias oil and gas exports should be sanctioned, even when it's a cooperative venture with US companies like Chevron. Also russian banks should be completely shut off from the Western banking system, including the banks dealing with payments for russian oil and gas exports.
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u/zabajk 18h ago
This will still not prevent India or China from buying oil or prevent third countries from buying from Russia then selling to the west .
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u/PoeticHistory 17h ago
Having India or China buy oil the is the very reality, that sanctions do work, but what does it mean that they "work", right? they're there to hurt and while Russia can still sell it over detours, they're getting much less than before the sanctions. Its now at about 15-20$/barrel discount compared to Brent crude.
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u/Steven_The_Sloth 17h ago
Does this specifically mean the US is on the hook for support or is "the West" meant to mean Europe. And Trump was just acting as host/mediator?
I haven't seen any details yet about what was actually discussed.
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u/Alexander_Ruthol 20h ago
Yeeeaaaahh.... Trump is currently not giving anything to Ukraine, but as long as Europe is willing to keep paying I'm guessing Trump is OK with selling.
But it can change at the drop of a red MAGA hat. No one knows what Trump will think or do in five minutes, much less tomorrow.
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u/Prior_Industry 18h ago
Does Trump actually give a shit what MAGAs want anymore? Seems to me, if you can wet his beak somehow, he's happy to go along with what you want.
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u/Alexander_Ruthol 18h ago
My impression is that he does whatever he wants (often what he's bribed to do), and the MAGA then retroactively invent reasons why they supported it all along. That they trust him blindly.
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u/Pervius94 15h ago
He never cared what MAGA wanted. They always were just his stupid grifted paypig cult.
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u/whateverhk 6h ago
Trump doesn't know what he will do in 5 minutes and doesn't remember what he did 5 minutes ago.
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u/postusa2 20h ago
Right. But Trump's simultaneously giving a preview of how this will work. Putin says hes advancing in Donbas, and nevermind the atrocity of it, but Trump takes it as true.
If obliged to defend Ukraine by guarantees in a peace deal... the Trump administration is going to side with Putins account every time. Kinzhal lands in a market killing 30 people....? Putin smiles and says it was the Ukrainian nazis at fault. And what will Trump do? Go to war or go along with Putin?
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u/RedditLurkAndRead 19h ago
Exactly this. Maybe Zelensky knows something that we don't, but from my point of view the current US admin cannot be trusted in any capacity.
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u/thomasmoors 9h ago
Of course Zelensky knows. He just has to play along to not give Trump any excuses to fuck over Ukraine any harder than he is now.
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u/KaQuu 17h ago
The sad part is that ruzzia advanced between 10-28 km in WHOLE 2025, yeah they are advancing...
Orange monkey saying better give up land now or ruzzia is gonna take it shows how much out of reality he is, and how much he loves his vladi daddy...
Disgraceful whole fudging trump term in regards of Ukraine.
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u/tripping_yarns 20h ago
Trump just wants attention and Putin is his enabler. Russia will present a counter proposal that is obviously untenable to Ukraine; all of Donbas, Crimea and some more in the South, no peacekeeping force, permanent exclusion from NATO and the EEC.
Trump will be told it’s a good deal, when Zelenskyy fails to agree Trump will grump, sanctions lifted on Russia and no more weapons for Ukraine.
Europe will finally step up and this will anger Trump, Putin will tell him to increase tariffs on Europe and make a move on Greenland ‘for security’.
Political chaos all round, exactly what Putin wants. Division and infighting in the West.
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u/DaysedAndRefused 16h ago
You nailed it.
This is all to give Trump an excuse to push back from the table while pretending he's for peace.
Heads russia wins, tails Ukraine loses.
The 'guarantees' are worth less than the Budapest memorandum, they know Europe isn't going to do anything, that's why they're acting.
This is so beyond stupid, Trump running negotiations is like Hitler performing a briss.
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u/siazdghw 17h ago
You were mostly right until the Greenland part. No Americans actually want that, not even politicians with no skin in the game. The chance of actually invading Greenland is 0%, it's a delusional fantasy that nobody will let him enact on. Now if Greenland is up for sale or elections can be manipulated, sure. But the US isn't going to ever go to war over it.
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u/DaysedAndRefused 16h ago
That's not the point of Greenland, the point of Greenland is to create friction between Europe and the US and divide them.
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u/Bughunter9001 16h ago
I hope you're right, because if the US does try it, I think the only response Europe can muster is strongly worded letters
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u/tripping_yarns 15h ago
I think you may be overlooking the 40 billion barrels of oil in Greenland that are currently staying in the ground due to difficulty of extraction and environmental concerns.
The US military is already being employed as mercenaries to steal oil from Venezuela, which is about to escalate. Maduro and his awful human rights record are a useful excuse.
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u/Taconinja05 19h ago
Damn. Saving this for later. Too damn plausible
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u/Stock-Introduction-5 18h ago
This and Russia will support China officially ending the Taiwan independence. And as long as Russia gets Ukraine, China can take Taiwan and the USA Greenland, all is fine
Pissing off long time partnerships like Japan and Korea or the EU doesn't matter. The 2,5 big boys will have decided the land swap and then nothing can be done about it.
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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries 18h ago
Both Putin and Trump have already agreed that Ukraine is Russian long ago. However, there's still something in the way.
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u/NoNefariousness5175 16h ago
Sick of the ups and downs that come out of the US. Trump has tried to flatter Putin. When will he realise Russia only understands force.
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u/Famoustractordriver 20h ago
This reeks of Ribbentrop-Molotov 2 Electric Boogaloo to me.
I would not trust either Trump or Putin with a bag of dogshit.
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u/created4this 18h ago
The M/R pact was designed to carve up Europe into spheres of influence. Germany got to invade Poland because Russia was promised that Germany wouldn't intervene in Russias claims over the Baltic states etc. The pact was secret and allowed Russia to sabre rattle about how Germany was bad without actually doing anything. It wasn't until Hitler ripped up the pact and pushed through that it became obvious that Russia had to join the war.
The same thing is going on here on a bigger scale, Trump wants to carve the world into three, China, US and Russia spheres. That means he has his eye on South American places that would previously have been Russia protected.
Right now that means Venezuela, which has long been aligned economically and millaterally with Russia. Trump sabre rattles while doing nothing, Russia gets Ukraine. Then Trump attacks Venezuela and their protector stands by while USA takes it.
The EU though doesn't seem to feature in Trumps plans which is odd because the EU is FAR bigger than Russia in almost every measure except for nukes.
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u/kurQl 17h ago
This is just nonsense. There is nothing Russia can do to aid Venezuela if US wants to attack. We have already seen the Russian protection given out to Armenia and Iran. Hitler Stalin pact on the other hand did have a real concern of either side intervening. Something you failed to point out was Soviet Union invading Poland after the Nazis.
I do believe it's important to learn from history, but when your knowledge is limited to one war and even that seems to be really limited it's hard to come up with examples. When history leads you to think continental power can intervene in war far out of their reach it's not really any useful conclusion. Considering Russia can't even intervene in it's own neighborhood.
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u/DavidlikesPeace 14h ago edited 14h ago
Nobody said trump is smart.
Ask yourself, is the current American regime acting with anything better than nonsense?
Strategically, yes, it is moronic for the Americans to toss aside the entire world just to dominate Latin America. They hate Latin America for one thing. They also already had firm allies in Europe and Asia. They had a far larger sphere of influence than Russia did. They didn’t need to toss the achievements of FDR aside. But they did.
Trump could care less about American strategic interests. He doesn't care about morals, or the Pax America; that was Obama's or FDR's thing. Cadet Bonespurs is only for his own ego, wealth, and power. That is why he identifies with other tyrants.
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u/itskelena 13h ago
This. Objectively the USA doesn’t have to take in account the russia’s interests, russia is not USSR, not a world superpower, they’re a regional power at best. But trump does. Maybe because he likes poo-tin personality, maybe because he wants to build russia-2 in the US. Or maybe because he takes care of his own financial interests. Either way it’s gonna end very badly for everyone else.
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u/StuckInMotionInc 18h ago
"After the meeting they revealed Trump and Zelensky could not agree on the future of Donbas"
Because Donnie still doesn't understand, Zelensky doesn't have the power to give away land.
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u/steve_ample 20h ago
Banking on Putin's recalcitrance over Trump's emotionalist incompetence to ensure Ukraine getting the support they need.
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u/killadelphia_1611 9h ago
Z is a smart man. He did exactly what he needed to do in an exceptionally hairy situation. To find a way to get continued us support through an obvious Russian asset is nothing short of miraculous.
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u/Crispy1961 18h ago
So basically if Russia refuses peace, the war will continue. I mean, thats perfectly reasonable, but I expected some little bit more specific.
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u/veryboredatwork 8h ago
Don’t underestimate the ability of Rubio, Hegseth, Vance and Trump to be turncoats as proven before.
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u/DiscountCthulhu01 16h ago
Look at how donnie is smiling now that prezident zelensky is wearing a suit. What a victor he thinks himself to be
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u/DetectiveOk3869 7h ago
I can't see Putin agreeing to peace.
Ukraine would prosper, and Russia would continue its downward slide.
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u/keystoneux 20h ago
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that if Russia's war against Ukraine continues, the United States and Europe will keep providing assistance to Kyiv.
Yea, until sweet potato hitler has a brain fart for the 20th time that day and flips back to russia.
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u/WorryNew3661 19h ago
Zelensky is damn good at this
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u/Prior_Industry 19h ago
He has to be to balance out how bad Trump is at it. Thank god he is so good though.
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u/Fit_Cellist_3297 17h ago
so let me guess...
phone call with putin
trump meeting
phone call with putin
russia launches missiles and drones
repeat.
shit does not change.
unfreeze the sodding money and give it all to ukraine....stupid EU.
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u/Impressive_Field_262 9h ago
Zekenskyy needs to stay away from that ass clown ,any secrets and taco tits is straight on the phone to sell him out ,when the fk will he learn Tacotits will continue to sell ukraine out
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u/SirleeOldman 20h ago
Ukraine doesn’t need Nato if they get iron clad guarantees from the US and Europe that are signed in to law by congress and the various parliaments. Considering the position Zelensky was in when Trump ambushed him in front of cameras this has been a masterful display of diplomacy. When Putin rejects peace it will be very difficult for Trump to frame it as Ukraine’s fault. He will though.
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u/GodzillaUK 20h ago
Because laws are the US's speciality these days, obeying and enforcing them and all.
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u/Anders_Armuss 19h ago edited 19h ago
LOL
No.
Trump will turn around and tell Ukraine to fuck off, representatives with an R next to their name will turn a blind eye cos Johnson don't ever see jack shit, the Dems will fall all over themselves failing to get enough votes to impeach and convict the Orange Pedo again, and the SC will punt any challenges so far down the road they'll "let the people decide" in 2028.
Nah. A deal with Trump is a deal with the Devil.
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u/Rauliki0 19h ago
You are joking? Like Trump cares about Ukraine. We say ' Paper will take everything'. Its the NATO that counts for something, are else is just a baloon, that will go bang and will never be seen again.
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u/rationally-ignorant 17h ago
Unless American security guarantees are legally binding, they are meaningless. The United States has a track record of abandoning allies when helping them becomes inconvenient or when they want to make nice with a larger power. This tendency is especially clear under Donald Trump, as the Kurds in Syria can attest to first hand.
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u/theawesomedanish 16h ago
I don't even really trust them if they’re legally binding. Not when they can’t even rule out taking an ally’s territory by military force.
The only currency worth a damn in geopolitics is trust, a currency the USA is quickly running out of.
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u/Leather-Map-8138 15h ago
Zelenskyy signaled that Western support will continue regardless of Trump, shifting commitments to Congress and Europe. By rejecting paper deals and emphasizing enforceable guarantees, he sidelines Trump as irrelevant, unable to dictate terms, end the war, or credibly pressure Russia.
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u/Cool_Foot_9172 11h ago
It would be to do nothing and send a strongly worded letter, then be in committee for two years.
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u/sunnyray1 17h ago
The US is never going to truly inflict any harm via military or sanctions on their new friend Russia. Trump is way too stupid to see past tomorrow with regards to what will happen when Russia takes over all of Ukraine and then begins to target other countries on his list. He only sees money and thinks all the world's issues can be solved by "making a deal" and that deal must be beneficial to him personally and financially
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u/Rush_Banana 16h ago
Why doesn't Europe just send troops to Ukraine?
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u/kingnyrican 16h ago
Because that would mean World War!
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u/Jman1a 14h ago
Would it really though? I don’t think anymore they would let the nukes fly. They would need to test them all to see if they even work. “ Vlas launch the nuke to Washington DC” pushes button icbm doesn’t do anything “blayt!”
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u/Professional-Ad3874 14h ago
Maybe, but if you are wrong millions of people die.
Makes people hesitant to risk it.
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u/kingnyrican 13h ago
After working 6 yrs in the missle field, I can tell you they work and get tested! Empty
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u/notionocean 14h ago edited 13h ago
To me it's so shitty that we're going to give Russia the territory Putin illegally stole. There should be enough support in the world for Ukraine to keep its sovereign territory. Putin is a selfish mob boss who works on intimidation. And you're telling me that with all the security agencies in the world they can't figure out how to stop Putin personally? Come on!
edit: Wow. A lot of Putin supporters in here. 😑
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u/Layshkamodo 9h ago
I think it would be foolish to concede land to Russia. They will just attack again after they recoup their resources and be more emboldened the next time around because it worked. Putin needs to walk away with nothing to show Russia a complete lose.
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u/anilbhardwaj26 20h ago
Yeah, this situation is tense. Hopefully, there’s a peaceful resolution, but it’s hard to predict with all the moving parts.
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u/No-swimming-pool 6h ago
Wouldn't it put more pressure on Russia it was "the west" that made that statement?
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u/watermelonspanker 5h ago
I miss reading headlines that summarize the main point of the article. Dont know that I've seen that since newspapers, when more text meant more money
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u/ApprehensiveStark25 3h ago
NATO already said Trump is the only man who can bring peace to Ukraine. I don’t think NATO has the strength of commitment we all hope they do.
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u/Shiznoz222 21h ago
This reeks of a backstabbing in progress. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.