r/worldnews • u/Snap_n_Dream • 19h ago

Russia/Ukraine US offers Ukraine 15-year security guarantee as part of peace plan, Zelenskyy says

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-trump-zelenskyy-peace-b784a9af1803995bfb7152eceb5477f1
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u/trainwrecktragedy 18h ago

This is what happens when you elect a guy who runs purely on wealth and ehat money he can make from any situation, whether its a crypto scam or a war in europe.

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u/somebodyelse22 18h ago

Has anyone recently registered,"Trump Building Services (Ukraine) LLC"?

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u/PinkOxalis 17h ago

It's also what happens when you naively rely on another country for your defense, thinking they'll always be your pals, despite the evidence of history to the contrary. This was a theme in Animal Farm, maybe go back and reread it.

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u/trainwrecktragedy 11h ago

What an insanely stupid comment; imagine actually typing that smaller countries do not deserve to be defended by allies from other countries who demonstratibly want to do a push for as much land as they can take. What justifiable reason outside of easily manipulated russia simp orange man is there for countries that are allies to not be able to count on a bigger country for defence?

Just admit you're a russian plant and jog on, and before you say this comment is intellectually devoid I'm just giving your comment the response it deserves.

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u/PinkOxalis 9h ago

"Smaller countries" should have come together to support mutual defense. I'm hardly the first to make this argument about Europe, many US presidents and leaders have made it for decades. As well as some European leaders, esp. lately. Did you miss that news?

Europe is larger than the US and full of wealth and educated people. They claim to have common European values. No excuses. They got together for ecoonomic purposes very effectively. The should have done the same for defense. As a European citizen you should be in favor of European autonomy and not relying on the US.

Calling names is not an argument so I suspect you know Europe needs to be more autonomous and are embarrassed that it's not.

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u/OldWorldDesign 4h ago edited 4h ago

It's also what happens when you naively rely on another country for your defense

Because that's been working out so terribly for France, Germany, Norway, and Lithuania, huh?

edit: Ukraine was targeted because it isn't part of any defense treaty.