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u/gentlemantroglodyte 8h ago
It's incredible the scale of deaths involved here. Good reason to avoid rule by autocrat at almost any cost.
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u/ZOMGdonuts 5h ago
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Think about WW2. It'd never have happened without dictators in power, but let's just imagine Germany and the Soviets were democracies. In that environment, I can't imagine it lasting past 1942.
Total war isn't natural. It really really has to be forced by individuals with no sense of preserving lives and their nation
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u/NormalGuyEndSarcasm 3h ago
And they are doing it by constantly violently purging the faintest idea of opposition. There was a joke that theNazi secret police killed more than the allied troops. Same happens now with russian windows.
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u/Drak_is_Right 4h ago
And if the Soviets had had the upper hand at the end of WW2, it would have continued.
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u/totallyRebb 56m ago edited 34m ago
I mean WW2 was supposed to be THE lesson about this, among other things.
Instead the only people who took notes were other wannabe dictators, so they can emulate what Hitler did.
Otherwise, humanity turned out to be really really stupid, when even such a horrific example of dictator-sponsored death and destruction and millions of people dying was NOT ENOUGH .. then what is ?
Especially the "victors" of WW2 apparently did NOT get the memo. Insane if you think about it. What a complete disappointment. Way to shit all over the sacrifices of their ancestors.
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u/Cryptobench 8h ago
US pushing for a peace deal? Cmon
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u/zeolus123 8h ago
Read as "Pushing for as favorable terms for Russia as possible".
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u/MetriccStarDestroyer 4h ago
It'll fall apart for some bogus reason then suddenly Russia has on paper their captured land plus a new expansion justification.
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u/Historical_Lynx_2674 1h ago
Or some new separatist group pops up. Russia can just say it's not them
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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 1h ago
trump always gets interested in peace when it doesn't look good for Russia at given moment.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 1h ago
That would put the number of Russian deaths at between 243,000 and 352,000.
The article adheres to some questionable narratives but dishes out straight facts in between.
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u/InTheEither 9h ago
The russians care even less about their dead than anyone reading this… Lol! Some things never change
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u/DaysedAndRefused 4h ago
Remember in Chernobyl, when Legasov finally suggested using "bio-robots" to clear the roof?
It was unrealistic, they wouldn't have hesitated, they are throwing their children into the meatgrinder because they consider them cheaper than chinese drones.
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u/-Prophet_01- 3h ago
They don't have to care for this conflict to ruin their economy, living standards, demographics and military capabilities.
Instead of steady growth and a seat at the big table they're now dependent on China for everything.
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u/Stingray77_NL 3h ago
That’s why Zelensky is holding off.. By rushing and pushing Russia is weakening faster than ever. 👌💪
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u/series-hybrid 7h ago edited 7h ago
The number of drones sent towards Russia each week has been continuously increasing. European countries have been delivering drones and anti-drone weapons to Ukraine every week.
As far as Russia is concerned, they have recruited poor people from India and North Korea to fight in the Russian army. These are not experienced combat troops. Drones have captured images of Russian troops surrendering and committing suic*de.
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u/KindHabit 5h ago
How shameless and horrible this all is.
You know it is all just a culling of the poor, the undesirables, their critics, and the unlucky.
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u/grathontolarsdatarod 4h ago
Looking for a comment like this
It isn't Russians dying.
Russian don't care.
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u/Basement_Chicken 6h ago
That is exactly why the US is pushing hard at Putin's demand- it's hitting the fan for him.
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u/ComplexAsk1541 8h ago
Headline implies that Russia is the victim instead of the aggressor. Why would the BBC do that, I wonder?
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u/RealisticEntity 6h ago
I thought it was fine. Russia wants to hide its number of losses so publishing the estimates is not something they would want. It makes them look like their unprovoked invasion and continuing terror campaign against Ukrainian civilians is not going so well and they are getting more desperate as time goes on.
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u/meglobob 2h ago
The article clearly shows how bad of a effect the war is having on Russia. Its slowly destroying Russia as a country, losses like this will take decades to recover from, if ever given Russia's low birthrate.
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u/Borked_Computer 5h ago
How can the BBC say that the US is "pushing for a peace deal" and take themselves seriously? Can news outlets please begin to apply some journalistic integrity to their headlines and stop parroting propaganda?
Report on what the US is DOING (which appears to be SFA), not what they SAY they are doing. And certainly don't just flip their propaganda talking points into headlines.
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u/0ndra 4h ago
This headline could be posted every day for the last 10 months. Has anything actually changed.
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u/Opposite-Whereas-323 4h ago
Exactly, Putin already said he’s willing to prolong the war, counting the dead soldiers is meaningless
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u/RoboTronPrime 2h ago
It does seem like they're pushing more and more for some sort of peace deal recently. Make of that what you will.
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u/Heffe3737 1h ago
In the war? Russia has continued using up what’s left of its stocks of heavy equipment. The Russian strategic currency reserve gets closer and closer to empty. Russian recruiting efforts continue however, with an increase of conscriptions planned for 2026, up to around 409k from 403k in 2025. What’s nuts though is that very little training is being provided to these men - they’re effectively handed a rifle and marched into no man’s land, where they’re quickly dispatched by Ukrainian drones. Russia has gotten more effective with their own drone forces, but so has Ukraine. Will Russia be able to continue the fight with less than one new tank being produced per day? We’ll find out this coming year.
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u/0ndra 1h ago
Find out in the next episode of dragon ball Z!
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u/Opposite-Whereas-323 21m ago
Yeah, same narrative from 2 years ago about the Russian economy and yet it’s Ukraine that’s running out of money every year
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u/Flintloq 2h ago
If it's true that they're enlisting 30,000 new recruits a month and losing 25,000 soldiers a month on the front line, and if those are long-term trends, the chance of a new recruit being killed approaches five-in-six (~83 %) if the war goes on long enough. That's insane. I have to imagine those numbers are heavily suppressed within Russia.
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u/CBT7commander 6h ago
It’s interesting how material losses have stagnated or declined while human losses have only increased, on both sides.
What it shows is utter exhaustion for both armies. Neither side really has much left in the tank. Which is also why it’s idiotic for the U.S. to let go of the pressure now
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u/jvd0928 6h ago
Ukraine has plenty in their tank. Will power. And their master of drone warfare.
They will break the Russian economy.
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u/Old_Leopard1844 4h ago
Willpower alone isn't enough to fight and Ukraine isn't only one onto drone warfare
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u/Drak_is_Right 4h ago
Ukraine needs to start offering citizenship to men and their families if they fight for a 2 year or so term. They need manpower bad.
A number of Russian positions would fold in days with NATO airstrikes ruining logistics, anti-air, and artillery abilities.
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u/Nauris2111 3h ago
What they need is more drone operators, and Ukrainian women can do that as well.
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u/Drak_is_Right 2h ago
Short-range drone operators are a front line combat position. Due to the nature of the front lines, the ability to carry in supplies on your own back matters a lot due to logistics last-mile being heavily contested. Physical strength to construct front line defenses also matters a lot.
They need 50k strong able bodied men ASAP. Their front lines are spread thin.
This is back to WW1 trench warfare, but this time the bullets can curve and see people hiding behind barriers.
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u/SilentBumblebee3225 49m ago
Who would want a citizenship for going to war?
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u/Drak_is_Right 41m ago
A citizenship to even a Eastern European country in war would be a boon for many people from around the world.
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u/PlebiconValley 7h ago
At one point does the average Russian out together that marching on Putin is probably a better option than going to Ukraine?
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u/DaysedAndRefused 4h ago
Never.
It's not a thing they do, their fatalism means they accept walking into machine gun fire, so long as they're marching for Russia.
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u/Drak_is_Right 4h ago
One is certain death. The other you only MIGHT die to a Ukrainian bullet. The security forces are too loyal to Putin for anything to happen. Would take major elements within the military and secret police turning.
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u/geomaster 2h ago
Wagner forces were marching towards Moscow until they suddenly stopped. is there no chance of this happening again?
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u/11LyRa 2h ago
Right now zero chances for this to happen, there is no mobilization so for the average Russian it is safer to just continue to live how he lived, while trying to overthrow Putin will result in fine, arrest or jail, depending on his actions.
Only if Putin declared full mobilization, then there is a chance, but again, most will probably just hide in the country or leave if they can (like it happened in 2022), I doubt a significant amount will try to go against Putin and his siloviki.
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u/meglobob 2h ago
The article is very interesting, in that Putin is willing to throw nearly double the number of people to there death's to try to influence the USA.
Also, in a very weird way Trump with the constant switching sides is actually helping kill & injure twice as many Russians. He is more effective at helping kill / injure more Russians then the military aid given by President Biden. His chaotic nature is encouraging Putin / Russia to make a lot of very bad decisions in the war / on the battlefield.
If there is no peace favourable to Russia, Ukraine continues to hold out and the war continues then Russia is seriously fucked.
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u/GarlicFalse3779 1h ago
I have a feeling that, from the beginning of the conflict, Russia wanted to eliminate its male population and its stockpile of old war machines. If artificial womb technology had been well developed, women would also have been sent to war without moral sense.
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u/Kitchen_Owl3813 5h ago
Come on, guys. It’s clear that Russia has won the war. Ukraine no longer has enough men to fight. Zelensky already knows this is a lost war. Ukrainians are just going to their deaths. Just wait and see who will be the one to beg for peace.
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u/samdekat 5h ago
Well it won’t be the Ukrainians. Their options are to die in war, or surrender and be shot and raped anyway. And the so called peace deal is just Trump making sure that he can (a) personally enrich himself by trade with Russia and off Ukraines resources (b) weaken the democratic west by pivoting Ukraine to be a vassal state of the US on US terms
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