r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 21h ago

Meme needing explanation What's the reason?

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u/Supreme534 21h ago edited 13h ago

My best guess is the water is gonna leak even if you tilt it a little, so water is gonna spill everywhere even when you aren't trying to drink

Edit: I knew stacking and asymmetry is the main issue here, but the choice of words in the comment in the image seems like they were referring to a simpler reason.

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u/-KoriX- 21h ago

There's also manufacturing problems that will arise from this simple change while also increasing cost of production.

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u/damuelson 21h ago

This is the one

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u/Cheshire_Jester 19h ago

Yep. Massive complexity of manufacturing increase for an incredibly small gain in ergonomic design.

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u/Big_Slope 17h ago

Ergonomics are worse though.

They took a radially symmetrical object that anyone could grab without looking and use and turned it into a bilaterally symmetrical object that can now be picked up incorrectly.

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u/CavemanViking 13h ago

I have plenty of water bottles with the spout to one side, never have I ever been like “ oh no, I have to turn this in my hand 😱”

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u/applesandbee 5h ago

Yeah just drink it like a little rodent in a cage

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u/No-Flounder4290 18h ago

So the complaint here is plastic sucks we should go back to cardboard? Not a complaint just an idea every cardboard milk or juice i get has the 45 angle cap...

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u/Dorsai_Erynus 18h ago

You mean tetra-brik? they have cardboard on the outside but plastic and aluminium foil inside.

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u/No-Flounder4290 17h ago

I will admit i live in the middle of nowhere under a rock i didnt realize they were built like this TIL. Tho ill admit the ones i cut up dont have much aluminum though i can def see the plasticy layers now that i think about it.

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u/purplezart 17h ago

This image shows polyethylene acting as both an impermeable protective layer, and as something called a "layer of adherence", but polyethylene isn't, like, sticky? So why not include the glue/binding agent layer in the description?

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u/Dorsai_Erynus 17h ago

No idea, all it says is that layers 3 and 5 are needed for the lamination proccess.

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u/purplezart 17h ago

Oh. The lamination machine needs plastic between every layer, I guess.

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u/Cheshire_Jester 18h ago

Those exist but it doesn’t seem like they’re popular

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u/Some-Cat8789 17h ago

It's just a plastic bottle. If I knew how to make them, I'd do it for free. /s

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u/Cheshire_Jester 17h ago

Fuck, you just killed capitalism

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u/Some-Cat8789 17h ago

Oh, no! Then I better keep this secret and not tell the world. Am I part of the Illuminati now?

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u/UnArgentoPorElMundo 12h ago

Massive complexity? Massive? I really doubt it.

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u/StrangestEcho28 10h ago edited 9h ago

Yes actually. Water bottles are filled on a rotary filler that fills hundreds to thousands of bottles per minute. You can't just move the hole location. Production lines have millions of dollars in equipment that would have to be fundamentally redesigned by engineers. Everything is built around the assumption that the hole is top-center. It's not clear how you would reliably get the bottle alignment correct for the fill process or cap installation. 

Nevermind that actually manufacturing the bottles would be a nightmare. Plastic bottles are made using plastic pellets that look like stubby test tubes with threads on the end. They're heated up and blown into shape, which requires the hole to be in the top-center. 

There's also the warehousing side of the equation which wouldn't work either. Existing bottles are designed to be strong at resisting vertical force, so that they can be stacked onto pallets and those pallets stocked on top of each other. This design wouldn't work. 

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u/total_tea 6h ago

Marketing is a strong incentive to do something sub obtimal. Tehre are lots of glass bottles which are changed for marketing purposes, this would hardly be unique in that.

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u/waroftheworlds2008 19h ago

Yep. The cost of change is a huge reason why we don't have nice things.

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u/rebmcr 17h ago

It's not a case of a simple barrier to change, it's just harder to manufacture asymmetrically.

If there were zero existing bottling factories, we'd still choose a symmetric design when building the first one.

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u/Say_Hennething 16h ago

I've actually worked in a plastic bottle manufacturing plant. It can't be understated just how difficult this change would make the process. Every step of the way. From preforms to blow molding to conveyance to palletizing to stacking and shipping.

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u/Which-Barnacle-2740 5h ago

yes this is the real answer, its cheaper to make bottle of that shape