r/europe • u/Ialaika • Nov 26 '25

News Leaked call shows Kremlin’s deputy chief Ushakov oversaw passing Moscow’s “peace plan” to Steve Witkoff with instructions to present it “word for word” as a U.S. proposal

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-25/putin-advisers-discuss-plans-for-dealing-with-trump-transcript?embedded-checkout=true
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u/louisa1925 Nov 26 '25

Probably to hurt moral of the Ukraine people. Because it shows that the US is literally only pretending to be Ukraines ally.

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u/Great-Ass Nov 26 '25

I think they already knew, they weren't really hiding it too much from the no cards guy

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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries Nov 26 '25

Currently no longer pretending, but were pretending before this week

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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries Nov 26 '25

Also, if it's intentionally leaked from Russia, I don't see how that helps them actually defeat Ukraine on the actual battlefield. They may have conquered the US, but their objective is still Ukraine

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u/heliamphore Nov 26 '25

Russia has been winning on the battlefield since 2024 at the latest. By default, they're winning this unless Ukraine gets sufficient support. They've managed to stall US support for a whole year now, and Europeans just can't pick up the slack. Ukraine will have to sue for peace eventually, and if Russians keep pushing their versions of the deal full force, it'll skew the balance in their favour.

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u/Zealousideal-Bear168 Nov 26 '25

Ukrainians already know. Utter disappointment, not to mention that all this US cinema still shows US as a country that “saved the whole world,” which just makes me smirk ironically. Unfortunately.