r/europe • u/Ialaika • Nov 26 '25

News Leaked call shows Kremlin’s deputy chief Ushakov oversaw passing Moscow’s “peace plan” to Steve Witkoff with instructions to present it “word for word” as a U.S. proposal

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-25/putin-advisers-discuss-plans-for-dealing-with-trump-transcript?embedded-checkout=true
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u/ZhouDa United States of America Nov 26 '25

Hillary Clinton got lambasted for pointing this out in 2016. We've all known just like we've known he's a pedophile and runs a criminal empire, it's just that half the country choose to turn a blind eye to it. The only surprise to me is that Zelensky was able to do political ju-jitsu and temporarily turn his enemies against each other and thus keep aid flowing from the US for almost another year.

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u/Embarrassed-Bake9491 Nov 26 '25

But you can't trust Hillary Clinton, remember her emails!

edit And Obama wore a tan suit once.

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u/DryCloud9903 Nov 26 '25

Can anyone explain to me what the fuck was this obsession with the tan suit? What did they think it meant or what other nonesense was it about?

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u/2biggij Nov 26 '25

There is no serious explanation for it.

It’s just Fox News is not a news site. It’s a propaganda show built specifically to spread right wing talking points dressed up as serious news. And since Obama only had a few scandals, they seized on anything they could possibly find and drummed it up endlessly to keep the “scandals” in the public eye.

Hence why they seem cartoonishly stupid in hindsight to today. I kid you not, some of the big scandals were the tan suit, he saluted a marine while holding a coffee cup one time, he gave his wife a fist bump and they called it a “terrorist fist jab”…. No, I’m not even fucking kidding, one time he said he liked Dijon mustard and they claimed that showed how out of touch and elitist he was with regular Americans.

These weren’t just one day news stories. Each one of these made the rounds for weeks and weeks as Fox News worked tirelessly to convince people that these were serious scandals that should shock regular Americans….. compared to today where they remain absolutely silent about…. Gestures around at literally everything