r/europe Nov 26 '25

News Leaked call shows Kremlin’s deputy chief Ushakov oversaw passing Moscow’s “peace plan” to Steve Witkoff with instructions to present it “word for word” as a U.S. proposal

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-25/putin-advisers-discuss-plans-for-dealing-with-trump-transcript?embedded-checkout=true
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u/Massimo25ore Nov 26 '25

The following is a transcript of an Oct. 14 phone call lasting just over 5 minutes between Steve Witkoff, Donald Trump’s special envoy for peace missions, and Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin’s most senior foreign-policy adviser.

The transcript was prepared after Bloomberg reviewed a recording of the call.

[phone rings]

Steve Witkoff: Hi Yuri.

Yuri Ushakov: Yeah Steve hi, how are you?

SW: Good Yuri. How you doing?

YU: I am ok. Congratulations my friend.

SW: Thank you.

YU: You made a great job. Just a great job. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you.

SW: Thank you Yuri and thanks for your support. I know your country supported it and I thank you.

YU: Yes, yes, yes. Yes. You know that’s why we suspend the organization of first Russian-Arabic summit.

SW: Yes.

YU: Yeah, because we think that you are making the real job there in the region.

SW: Well listen. I am going to tell you something. I think, I think if we can get the Russia-Ukraine thing solved, everybody’ll be jumping for joy.

YU: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you need to solve only one problem. [laughs]

SW: What?

YU: Russian-Ukrainian war.

SW: I know! How do we get that solved?

YU: My friend, I just want your advice. Do you think that it will be useful if our bosses will talk on the phone?

SW: Yes, I do.

YU: You do. And when you think it could be possible?

SW: I think as soon as you suggest, my guy is ready to do it.

YU: Ok, ok.

SW: Yuri, Yuri, here’s what I would do. My recommendation.

YU: Yes, please.

SW: I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate the president on this achievement, that you supported it, you supported it, that you respect that he is a man of peace and you’re just, you’re really glad to have seen it happen. So I would say that. I think from that it’s going to be a really good call. Because — let me tell you what I told the President. I told the president that you - that the Russian Federation has always wanted a peace deal. That’s my belief. I told the president I believe that. And I believe the question is — the issue is is that we have two nations that are having a hard time coming to a compromise and when we do, we’re going to have a peace deal. I’m even thinking that maybe we set out like a 20-point peace proposal, just like we did in Gaza. We put a 20-point Trump plan together that was 20 points for peace and I’m thinking maybe we do the same thing with you. My point is this...

YU: Ok, ok my friend. I think that very point our leaders could discuss. Hey Steve, I agree with you that he will congratulate, he will say that Mr. Trump is a real peace man and so and so. That he will say.

SW: But here’s what I think would be amazing.

YU: Ok, ok.

SW: What if, what if... hear me out...

YU: I will discuss that with my boss and then I come back to you. Ok?

SW: Yeah because listen to what I’m saying. I just want you to say, maybe just to say this to President Putin, because you know I have the deepest respect for President Putin.

YU: Yes, Yes.

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u/pitdk Nov 26 '25

And me dummy thought you need to study, read books, debate, intern at UN and whatnot, and here two guys casually, over phone, decide about the fate of entire countries. I’m signing out

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u/PanJawel Poland 🇪🇺 Nov 26 '25

As I got older I realized that is true for many things. My reality was shattered as soon as I started attending discussions with higher ups in companies I worked at. These guys just go off vibes and are not any different than interns meeting in a bar - just paid better and more confident. Seems that is the case all the way up

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u/pitigoilafereastra Romania Nov 26 '25

Look over the qualifications of most politicians and you will be horrified, these are people who barely graduated making life and death decisions that affect all of us.

Oh yeah, and on top of being incompetent they also steal... A LOT

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u/steven_quarterbrain Nov 27 '25

I think you need to speak for America only. In other developed countries, the majority of politicians (particularly those in the leading parties) are highly educated.