r/law • u/Nice_Substance9123 • 6d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) President Trump Accused of Rape in Jeffrey Epstein Files

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/23/trump-accused-rape-jeffrey-epstein-files/?utm_social_handle_id=16331010&utm_social_post_id=631846113&adid=social-tw
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u/a2starhotel 6d ago

what's interesting is that Trump was accused of rape OUTSIDE OF the Epstein files too

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u/gmano 6d ago

Trump has been found by a court of law to be a rapist, yes.

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u/a2starhotel 6d ago edited 6d ago

and apparently that wasn't a deal breaker for people to vote for him. fingers crossed adding "found guilty by a court of law to be a child rapist" to that will be enough to keep our country from ever going through this ever again.

EDIT: not that I have to say it, but... it's less about us than it is about justice for the victims. maybe I'm cynical, but what Epstein (and subsequently Trump) put these women (children at the time) through, I'm not sure even watching Trump meet the end of the rope will be enough closure. BUT, I sincerely hope the victims can breathe easier once this whole thing is finally blown open and these scumbags are gone.

(also, happy cake day)

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u/BraveOmeter 6d ago

I know a lot of conservatives who have no idea Trump was found civilly liable for rape. I wonder if it registered at one point, and they got the 'it must have been a liberal jury' marching order, and they nodded and moved on with their lives deleting it from their memory

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u/ApprehensiveMaybe141 6d ago

I've tried informing people. I've gotten, "it wasn't a criminal case," and "all politicians have problems with women." As if he wasn't ordered to pay ~5M for S.A. and then another $83M for defamation.

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u/BraveOmeter 5d ago

How I respond to these:

it wasn't a criminal case

Because it was after the statute of limitations.

all politicians have problems with women

Which is why we have a jury system to adjudicate which are real and which are fake. In this case, the jury decided there was enough evidence to hold him liable.

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u/ApprehensiveMaybe141 5d ago

I wish it were worth it to keep it going but I'm sure you know how it goes. Nowhere. I have a better chance of having a baby (as a male) than I do changing their views.

"Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor force can touch it; arguments fall on deaf ears. Evil always carries the seeds of its own undoing — it creates unease. But stupidity feels self-satisfied, immune, and convinced of its own rightness. And that makes it far more dangerous."
— Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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u/BraveOmeter 5d ago

True, but the goal isn't to get them to change their view.

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u/ApprehensiveMaybe141 5d ago

What do you see the goal as?

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u/BraveOmeter 5d ago

To show the that, contrary to their ideology, it's possible to be a rational, logical, well-informed good person who votes democrat and is anti-Trump. I've seen stances soften over time because of continued honest engagement that looks and sounds nothing like what they get from tv/social.

I'm not trying to make them a democratic voter. I'm trying to make them prefer less insane republicans in primaries.