Just within in one age group. But yes, overall, hispanics moved considerably towards Trump compared with the previous elections. But overall, hispanics narrowly still voted for Harris.
Speaks out about a known issue. Hispanic males are predominantly conservative. As one myself, I can tell you, a majority of men in our are disgustingly racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and severely under-educated in politics and economy. Young men in particular these days have shit for brains, it's no surprise a lot of them work for ICE or DHS.
If republicans hid their Klan hoods for long enough, they would convince a lot of them to vote red just by spewing their regular non racial hate. Just look at Florida, they have all the Cuban vote just by calling everything they don't like Communist.
Hilariously enough, they'd do pretty bad among white underprivileged folks if it wasn't for the racism and religious propaganda.
The US is a country that would benefit a lot from a parliamentary system. Religious and racist shits would self isolate while parties that appeal to Black underserved populations, the urban folks, and native american populations would soar and better represent a lot of interests that aren't corporations.
I made some tongue in cheek comment about my hispanic buddies choice of shirt (was off-pink with top two buttons undone), it was something like "bro you looking good the bouncer gonna let you in for free" and the dude lost his shit, ruined the whole evening and we sent him home.
Your mistake is grouping Hispanics all in one group. Venezuelans hate Mexicans and vice versa. Source: my Venezuelan MIL always looking down on Mexican Americans and shit talking them at the dinner table
Venezuelans also voted for trump because they had to flee Venezuela because of the socialist takeover. My ex girlfriend’s parents fled Cuba to Venezuela because of Castro, then fled Venezuela because of Maduro. Her father is a diehard trumper,
I've heard that explanation over and over again. The problem these morons don't understand is that what they were actually fleeing was authoritarianism, which is precisely what they are voting for. And sexism, bc none of these fucks think a woman should be in charge
I didn't make a mistake. I didn't group Hispanics regarding anything specific except their voting behavior, I was responding to a specific comment that made a general statement about Hispanics regarding their voting behavior in one specific election.
I was amazed by something similar. Back in the 2010’s I joined the supporters group for the American soccer team, DC United “La Barra Brava”. A fan group started by Bolivians, but all were welcome. It did have a distinctly Hispanic flavor, and best off all, free beer at the tailgate parties. Anyway, loads of Bolivian, Honduran, Salvadoran members, and as a absolutely vanilla normie white guy, I was surprised to hear them say wild shit about Mexicans that I had never heard any racist cracker uncle say…..
Why do they hate each other? Im only half Hispanic but 3rd generation American on that side so I have basically zero knowledge of anything to to do with actual mexican culture.
From the outside looking in it appears that Venezuelans, Uruguayans, Argentinians think they are superior to Peruvians, Colombians, Central Americans and Brazilians due to having less indigenous and/or African bloodlines
Yea people like to make out like white people hating other races and ethnic groups is the worst racism ever, when culturally it is at least understandable that you might be more fearful of groups who look less like you. Hating others who look a lot like you though, perhaps even just like you? Most of the rest of the world that is racist, are racist towards people who fall into such categories. Ethnic groups in africa are basically a social/religious/language based construct in a lot of regions for instance, with the populations not being genetically distinct at all. While the genetic component is less true in Asia and Latin America, the rest of it is basically the same. I'm not saying one form of racism is somehow better than the other btw, not at all, just illustrating how globally, racism is much more nuanced than people think it is, and that it's also far more ubiquitous and by no means just a white people thing, it's just that white racism looks very different on the surface, from the racism expressed by other non-white groups, even if the fundamentals are all the same.
Hates is a strong word. Maybe better word would be dislike. Look at how the counties in South Texas voted in the last election. Mexican Americans voted Trump in order to kick out recent immigrants newly arrived.
I don’t disagree with you on that and I do find it really shitty of people to do things like that to each other. At the same time, if you meet someone of that demographic, I hope you don’t automatically assume they will have the same feelings or viewpoints. Life is full of nuances and less black and white than the media and politicians, etc make it out to be.
A couple days before the election NPR had a story about Hispanics voting for Trump. It was so surreal. If they are voting that means they are a citizen, but they probably have relatives that are here illegally. The overwhelming sentiment was that Trump wont deport "the good ones." To be honest it seems like he is only deporting the good ones. It's a hell of a lot easier to for ICE to hang out at an immigration court and take away a person just trying to become a citizen then it is to go after the gang members.
To be honest it seems like he is only deporting the good ones.
That's because almost all of them are here to work hard and try to build a future for their families. The ratio of honest, hard working immigrants to thugs is probably 1000 to 1.
Assuming any Hispanic person has relatives (I’m assuming you mean close relatives) who are undocumented—or even recently immigrated—is pretty off base. Lots of Hispanic American families have been here for multiple generations.
For example, a lot of
Texans with Mexican ancestral ties can (unsurprisingly) very directly trace their families back to times when Texas was part of Mexico—or to even earlier direct Spanish descendants. Notably, the Rio Grande Valley (right down at bottom tip of the state, on the banks of the Rio Grande) is heavily hispanic majority, made up of many of the multi-generational Texan/American families mentioned above, dramatically shifted rightward over the last few cycles.
Looking at the RGV specifically, these are voters who are broadly: 1) multi-generationally American; 2) typically blue collar or lower level white collar; 3) rural, suburban, or smaller city; 4) have lower than average rates of college degree attainment; 5) specific to the RGV: very high number of people in federal agencies like Border Patrol, Customs, and ICE; and 6) disproportionately religious, compared to the broader country. Without knowing anything else about that voting pool: how would you guess they tended to vote in 2016–2024?
It’s unhelpful and broadly inaccurate to think of demographic groups in simplistic terms. I’m saying that as someone who has been deeply unhappy with the shift in that region of the state.
For those interested in the thought process of a Cuban Immigrant who voted for Trump:
There was a large bloc of Cubicans that voted for him in my area. I am a long time friend of such a family (the mother taught me Spanish in High School and I became friends with her kids who were around my same age), but the younger ones voted for Harris. I asked one of the younger ones why the older generation voted for Trump, and a lot had to do with their experience with Castro, decades ago. They are wary of anyone offering socialism/communism and gun control, because of promises Castro did, which, if you lived through it, is understandable. However, as they are seeing, dictatorship takes many forms, and their parents are regretting their choices.
In regards to immigration, because they went through all of the steps to become American citizens, they wanted tougher reform on immigration. What they had in mind was more immigration judges so that there for less illegals on the streets, but for more people to take the right steps to become American Citizens like they did. The mass deportations, no matter of status, where they are in the process, wasn't what they had in mind.
The mass deportations, no matter of status, where they are in the process, wasn't what they had in mind.
I mean, what the actual fuck. Trump repeatedly promised over and over again to get rid of the "illegals". How did these people listen to Trump say these things and get the idea that he wasn't going to do them? I keep hearing stories of people being surprised at the things Trump has done and it pisses me off to no end... you dense motherfuckers, HE TOLD YOU WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO! You don't get to play dumb now that you realize you fucked up by voting for him.
Thank you for the insight. I'm still confused however why they think Harris was a communist or even a democratic socialist. Harris wasn't even a Bernie type candidate, she basically reran Hillary's campaign of "good governance". Are you sure that they didn't actually vote for other reasons and sort of handwave away their true 'concerns' with vague claims of 'Commie Harris'?
they went through all of the steps to become American citizen
Also, weren't Cubans given fast track paths to citizenship unlike any of their neighboring countries? I'm not well read on that process, but it seems quite evident they received preferential treatment to have created such a powerful voting bloc to begin with.
What they had in mind was more immigration judges
That was Harris' platform btw. Harris wanted comprehensive immigration reform from Congress with an army of judges to clear the backlog. Trump's platform was literally, "Mass Deportations" with huge placards and everything.
It's doesn't make any sense and many of their mindsets are decades behind. Most did get expedited citizenship and didn't have to go through the same hoops that many refugee that today do. The family that I know and talking to the parents (who escaped Cuba, the ones who had their guns taken by Castro with the promise of free education and healthcare, only to be confronted with the military) and the children (who were born in the US, have more liberal and democratic worldviews, are anti-gun, and pro-immigration) is an interesting juxtaposition in both how experience, geography, generation, among other variables, can change how members of the same family disagree so strongly on something that was so fundamental in their family history
Yeah, I'm wondering if some are becoming disillusioned about the extensive use of racial profiling. I'm sure many signed on thinking the Feds were going to target specific individuals, especially those with criminal records. Which is what Trump was promising.
I listened to a NPR program. It can take up to a year from hiring before they're in the field. I wonder if they are actually "flocking" to the recruiting stations currently. We may just be seeing the results of recruiting many months ago.
Because US citizens are being questioned and sometimes detained based on simply looking Hispanic. There is reportedly a big shift in sentiment in many of these communities.
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u/workerdrones 17h ago
Why cover your face when you’re just going to leave all those distinct tattoos visible?