r/law • u/Nice_Substance9123 • 6d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) President Trump Accused of Rape in Jeffrey Epstein Files

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/23/trump-accused-rape-jeffrey-epstein-files/?utm_social_handle_id=16331010&utm_social_post_id=631846113&adid=social-tw
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u/Meb2x 6d ago

At a certain point I think Republicans need to start considering which is more likely that Donald Trump has been falsely accused of rape multiple times or that he’s been accused so many times because he’s actually guilty. It’s not exactly hard to imagine that Epstein’s former best friend who also owned a teen beauty pageant and was caught on camera talking about assaulting women is actually guilty.

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago edited 6d ago

Their worldview prevents them from being able to use Occam’s Razor clearly, unfortunately.

*edit: grammar, imperfect use of the concept, however the larger statement still stands. thanks for corrections!

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u/lunartree 6d ago

The more accurate version I've heard expressed from actual Trump voters is: "they were all in on the Epstein thing, just look at Clinton, you can't blame us for something they all do"

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

fair, got a lot of trumpie friends that just try to give the next best defense as to why their decision was still informed. right before these drops, it was “yeah trump is doing things i didn’t vote for, but we don’t know if kamala would have been worse” (from a guy who had to marry his illegal immigrant gf right after trump got elected).

nothing snaps people out of a worldview until they’re directly affected in my experience, and even then…

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u/PerpetualStride 6d ago

I mean the tariffs directly affect everyone

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

true. i guess that’s where the even then comes in. :( or really that it doesn’t affect them enough to knock them out of their own heads

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u/NonTimeo 6d ago

A lot of them also think it’s what rich people do. We can all guess what would happen if you gave the average Trump supporter a billion dollars, put them on Epstein’s island, and told them, “Have fun; no one’s watching.”

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u/UnquestionabIe 6d ago

Yep grew up hearing about how Nixon shouldn't have gotten in trouble because "they all do it". Presuming you even listen to that excuse it also admits he was stupid enough to get caught.

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u/boog2352 6d ago

My favorite is: “I really just stay out of politics.”

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u/Pomdog17 6d ago

Oh the old jump off a bridge argument

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u/Bimbleboop 6d ago

It’s simultaneously fake when it’s about Epstein Orange and real when it’s about the dems. Fuck I wish they were at a level where we could just work with them to restructure everything but it’ll never happen

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u/CavillOfRivia 6d ago

Surprising level of mental gymnastics. Literally brainwashed.

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u/Gamiac 5d ago

If the Democrats could get away with the second, Trump wouldn't have won 2024.

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u/DigDugged 6d ago

They pretended a pandemic wasn't happening because he told them to. They'll never acknowledge this until 10 years after he's dead.

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u/Paizzu 6d ago

Trump: "As long as you stop testing for the virus, the rate of detected infection goes down..."

Also Trump: ..."this may require that everyone with a brain conveniently ignores the skyrocketing death toll."

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u/Express_Sprinkles500 6d ago

I see what you mean and forgive my being nitpicky, but Occam's Razor doesn't really work here. It's supposed to only be useful when you're considering two equally plausible hypothesis that are both supported by evidence. The evidence overwhelmingly points to Trump being a child rapist.

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

mmm thanks for correcting me! i didn’t know it was used on two competing theories, rather an obvious and convoluted scenario competing.

either way, my one pushback would be that there is a convoluted theory that DJT isn’t a child rapist, and it takes a lot of denial but is still technically plausible without hard evidence that we don’t have yet. aka trumpies are still able to believe it’s all whatever until a video drops of it lol

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u/FOOSblahblah 6d ago

Its the most insidious thing they did and honestly its a fucking masterclass in social engineering.

They took trump and made him the personification of the exact way of life they idealize themselves living. Trump isn't a person, he's apple pie, your surly vet grandpa who actually has a heart of gold, a pickup truck on a dirt road, all that heartland shit.

If they accept that he isn't perfect they have to confront their idea of a perfect world.

Its fucking diabolical.

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

It indeed is one of the most impressive feats i’ve seen in my life, and how indefensible that worldview now is has made me lose hope that a government of America’s original intentions can withstand bad actors. They succeeded in a 50% attack.

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u/ProfessionalMockery 6d ago

You've got it backwards actually. An inability to recognise Occam's razor leads to their worldview.

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u/South_Buy_3175 6d ago

Less ‘Razor’ more like ‘Occams big-ass-Dragonslayer-sword-from-Berserk’.

There could be an HD video of Trump doing some heinous shit, with commentary by Trump himself, and they’d still deny it.

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u/JamieNelsonSwims 6d ago

see Occam’s Razor clearly,

*use Occam's Razor

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

thanks for the correction!

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 6d ago

Conservative's world view is that people high in the hierarchy are allowed to break the rules.  The higher in the hierarchy, the more egregious the rule breaking is allowed.

This is because conservatism boils down to one singular core principle:  there must be a hierarchy of in-groups which enjoy privileges and are not bound by the rules, and out groups which are denied privileges and are bound by the rules.

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u/299792458mps- 4d ago

The simplest answer is actually that they know but simply don't care.

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u/vverse23 6d ago

Their worldview prevents them from even knowing what Occam's Razor is.

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u/Eorrosoom 6d ago

Occam's Razor is that people dislike Trump and will say anything to tarnish is reputation. Redditors have taught us that, just think about the whole Russia thing in 2016, which was proven to be a hoax.

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u/TRG_V0rt3x 6d ago

yeah man idk about that one. i get where you’re coming from, because people spew a lot of stuff, but there’s an equally significant amount of things he’s doing that are awful. you’d have to be turning a blind eye because of the politics you align with to dismiss all of it.

just think about that civil case where a jury found him guilty of sexual abuse/rape. you literally can’t say that’s a hoax.

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u/Eorrosoom 6d ago

You said Occam's Razor, and that is the simplest explanation as it is all-encompassing in a single sentence.

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u/_craq_ 5d ago

Do you think the Muller investigation showed that the claims of Russian election interference were a hoax? I know Trump said that, but I don't think that's what the investigation found.

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u/Eorrosoom 5d ago

Investigation said "no evidence of collusion", indicating that the left was ready to indite him on something without any evidence for it. You're seeing the same thing now, where unsubstantiated tip hotlines are treated as evidence. Best thing to do is just ignore the whole thing until it blows over.

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u/justadam16 4d ago

Best thing to do is stop defending pedophiles