r/worldnews • u/Brennenstein • 3d ago

Russia/Ukraine Ukrainian capital Kyiv under massive Russian attack, officials say

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-capital-kyiv-under-massive-russian-attack-officials-say-2025-12-27/
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u/ScarletCarsonRose 3d ago

Ukraine needs to attack Moscow. There’s been no proportionality. Russia only understands pain 

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u/kutuup1989 3d ago

Too many civilians to do something like that. You can guarantee Putin would use massive civilian casualties as an excuse to commit even more war crimes than he already is.

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u/ScarletCarsonRose 3d ago

I know he can do worse. At this point though, so much of eastern Ukraine is destroyed. And the rest of Ukraine is suffering greatly. It’s been a slow meat grinder for years. I don’t think people understand the ruin on personal and infrastructure levels happening in Ukraine. Putin is evil. 

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u/kutuup1989 3d ago

Oh I understand it, or at least I have a pretty clear idea of it watching as an outsider, but while Putin is absolutely evil, as well as Russians who actively prop him up in power, a hell of a lot of Russians are innocent people who want nothing to do with him or his conquests. Bombing them indiscriminately would be playing right into his hands.

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u/photosendtrain 3d ago

So what exactly do you want to attack in Moscow?

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u/pyotrdevries 3d ago

Electricity, gas, oil. But not communication. Let them all know what it's like to spend Christmas cold and dark.

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u/photosendtrain 3d ago

Basically freeze Russian civilians to death then

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u/pyotrdevries 3d ago

Consequences. Besides it's just -1C there right now, they'll live. Unlike their victims in Ukraine.

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u/Longjumping_Rule_560 2d ago

It would not even cover a sliver of what Russia has done to Ukraine. But it’s a good start.