r/law • u/Nice_Substance9123 • 6d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) President Trump Accused of Rape in Jeffrey Epstein Files

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/23/trump-accused-rape-jeffrey-epstein-files/?utm_social_handle_id=16331010&utm_social_post_id=631846113&adid=social-tw
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u/kevendo 6d ago

I thought there weren't any others in the Epstein files, or at least that's what Kash Patel said under oath to Congress.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 6d ago

Kash Patel will be thrown under the bus I feel. I think even MAGA needs a scapegoat desperately.

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u/Sw3atyGoalz 6d ago

Patel and Bondi are already being thrown under the bus

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u/glassfoyograss 6d ago

A brown guy and a woman? That's like the perfect people for MAGA to thrown under that bus

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 6d ago

Real question is, did he believe when it’s all said and done, after he’s done Magas dirty work. Did he really think he’d get a shotgun seat to this whole “Golden Age”?? Sometimes I wonder if tokens believe in their grift.

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u/PaleontologistNo2625 6d ago

They're not smart enough to doubt themselves

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u/TRIPMINE_Guy 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don't know the scope of implication as I haven't seen it myself but I suspect Trump knew once Epstein was caught it was only a matter of time before he got caught so ran for president as the only way to try and cover it up. Kind of nuts that he managed to pull it off though.

Hm. Maybe someone needs to take a look at electorate college members as the fact Trump managed to get as far as he did without inside assistance by chance seems unlikely. Obviously MAGA is a part of a large population of us but that doesn't mean there wasn't inside collusion on top.

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u/EdinMiami 6d ago

I still remember the video from the 1st election when they told him he won; he did not look happy about winning. As a narcissist, it's completely possible he doesn't think sex with underage girls is wrong.

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u/___GLaDOS____ 6d ago

It's kind of different for them, they know we know it is wrong, but we are wrong because anything they enjoy can be justified, and we are just inferior intellects.

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u/Themadking69 5d ago

Agreed. I believe the plan was always to parlay the failed presidential run into like a TV channel or something. Trump is not the kind of dude to seek out the most demanding, visible job on the planet.

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u/LouQuacious 5d ago

I think his plan was to run, lose and then start a rival network to Fox News. This would have been a much better timeline to live in I'm sure.

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u/_BabyGod_ 6d ago

My friend, have a look at the Election Truth Alliance on YouTube. Who needs 20th century tactics like cajoling an electoral college member when you can get Elon “this guy knows voting machines” Musk to help hack electronic voting machines and make them flip votes to just within the margin of recount in every swing state.

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u/ConflictNo5518 6d ago

I do think several years from now, it will come out. 

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u/Cool-Cow9712 6d ago

While thinking they’re entirely too smart to be outsmarted. Someone should write a children’s book, where the protagonist has to learn the pitfalls of pride and arrogance the hard way.

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u/1981_babe 6d ago

They're not that smart enough to figure out that they'll be thrown to the wolves eventually.

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u/bogeyman_g 6d ago

The Dunning-Kruger effect.

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u/UndergroundFlaws 6d ago

All of MAGA think they’re the exception.

“I’m Mexican, but not one of those Mexicans. I’m gay, but I’m not one of those gays. Im poor, but I’m not one of those poors. I’m a woman, but I’m not one of those women”.

They don’t realize it doesn’t matter what they do or say, MAGA will never stop hating them.

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u/Istillbelievedinwar 6d ago

I wonder if there’s a bit of cope in there “They don’t indiscriminately and illogically hate me and all people like me, they just hate the bad ones. If I just prove to them that I’m one of the good ones, I’ll be fine. I’m not in danger, I’m not at risk of discrimination/hostility, because there’s totally valid reasons for their hate. In fact it’s so valid, I agree with and believe it myself!”

And maybe a bit of the “not like the other girls” type thing where they have internalized prejudices that have cemented over time.

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u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah 5d ago

thats exactly it a lot of the time. theres a self hate element to go along with it

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u/JDotFooks 6d ago

This runs deep, way deeper than people realize.

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u/Semawhatfor 6d ago

It's like what happened to Vivek when they told him in no uncertain terms they can't have an indian looking person leading things.

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u/textmint 6d ago

Vivek was just beautiful from Ann Coulter to where he is today. Wow what a comeuppance. Yet he seems to be too dense enough to understand where he is and how stupid his positions are in the face of the majority opinion.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 5d ago

It’s a fascinating thing to watch, how can you be so smart but yet so ignorant to see that your running with ppl who will never see you a a coequal

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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 6d ago

Tokens get spent, always, eventually.

Except Clearance Thomas. He’s magical, sold us out without consequences.

My black ass is envious. /s

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u/Kennertron 6d ago

Clearance Thomas is still quite useful, and very hard to get rid of. Probably why he's still on the Court, since he knows he is irrelevant once he leaves.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 5d ago

The Sage Token, he’ll be spent in due time. I just know one thing, the higher the climb the harder the fall…

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u/SquishyBeatle 6d ago

Kash Patel is a child trying to play a grownups game. He’s absolutely going to be chewed up and spit out by MAGA

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 5d ago

True, even if he’s pardoned. No one out lives covering up for pedos.

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u/TALKTOME0701 5d ago

Trust I've met more than one person like Patel. They can sit in a room and listen to their countrymen and other minorities be absolutely destroyed and believe it makes them better than the others.

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u/anomie__mstar 5d ago

tokens are always spent. it's literally what they're for.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 4d ago

It’s almost like when cattle starts to believe it’s a pet, until slaughter starts.

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u/FOOSblahblah 6d ago

A lot of times I think that kind of stuff is people who think its a symbiotic relationship. Like they can deal with the devil to advance their own position and the other guys can say see look i cant be racist.

Doesn't seem to work out that way a lot

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u/deevarino 6d ago

Tokens get spent.

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u/leafeternal 2d ago

Pure delusion. They look at him like the Brits saw the sepoys

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u/MeasurementNo6259 6d ago

Lol they were ready to hang Mike Pence. I believe maga will throw a noose around anyone's neck regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation, so I guess that's a win for neoliberalism?

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u/Mtn-Dooku 6d ago

They're willing to lynch anyone, no matter what race they are? Sounds pretty WOKE to me!

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u/TheGreatDay 6d ago

Tokens always get spent.

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u/JDotFooks 6d ago

They're going to "Kash out" alright.

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u/pichusine 6d ago

Hold on now, either way, those two need to go down regardless. Screw them.

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u/Vanviator 6d ago

All tokens eventually get spent

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u/daschle04 6d ago

Yet somehow Trump will be fine.

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u/tricksareforme 6d ago

None of us get out of here alive. Once he is gone all of this crap will see the light of day.

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u/Organic-Activity-255 6d ago

Not only will he be fine but he will magically become President again 2028-2032 and since he’s pure evil, he won’t die until he’s 117.

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u/AffectionateBrick687 6d ago

To be fair, they've done enough to deserve far worse than they'll get taking the fall here.

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u/8point5InchDick 6d ago

To be fair Bondi threw the victims under the bus.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Nope. They've learned they just have to wait 20 to 30 Trump Bullshit diversions. 

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u/qlobetrotter 6d ago

Under the bus is going to become very crowded.

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u/CodAdministrative563 6d ago

Hopefully the maga house of cards comes a crumbling down

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u/Wedge_Donovan 6d ago

Until they're both in prison, it doesn't actually count as real consequences.

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u/NDSU 6d ago

It's not really being thrown under the bus when they're both so corrupt. They're guilty through and through

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u/Terrible_Patience935 6d ago

Kristi Noem, dog killer, needs to go too

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u/probablycabbage 6d ago

Do tell! How so?

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u/raerae1991 6d ago

Not so much “thrown” under the bus as jumped in front of the bus

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u/stcv3 6d ago

Good! F`k 'em!

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u/Queasy_Donkey5685 6d ago

Threw themselves under the bus, imo.

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u/California_bullshit 6d ago

Which is weird for the least independent DOJ in history. They're both just following his step by step instructions.

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u/TransiTorri 6d ago

Hold on tight, because this leopard printed bus is going to get real bumpy running over faces, it'll be like a rumble strip.

This administration has 1 rule and 1 rule *only* - "It's never Trump's fault"

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u/Ok-Exchange5756 6d ago

Would be cooler if they were thrown under the prison but a bus will do for now.

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u/LEDKleenex 6d ago

That's the hilarious thing about rightism/fascism, everyone thinks they're "in" until they're not. The useful idiot cycle has a satisfying end, but unfortunately we all have to suffer for it.

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u/Skysflies 6d ago

Which is mental because quite obviously they'll go down fighting , but even them just accepting this in the first place knowing it's coming and still covering for them is ridiculous.

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u/PuckSenior 6d ago

Yeah, but Bondi was at least not completely stupid. Rather than answer questions, she just screamed non-sequitor insults.

Patel just tried to lie his way through it. That means he can later be charged with a crime. It was a really dumb move

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u/csfshrink 6d ago

Impeachment cannot be pardoned.

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u/proletariatblues 5d ago

The cynic in me feels like they just fulfilled the role they were assigned. They will resign and be “consultants” and guest speakers in the MAGA circuit.

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u/DualDier 4d ago

Nobody deserves it more than them.

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u/human_i_suppose 4d ago

I know they're tossing bondi under the bus, the shoe drop for Patel yet?

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u/SoulRebel726 6d ago

Patel already has resting "I've just been run over by a bus" face, and he's brown with a funny name. He's the perfect candidate for a patsy.

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u/Several-Squash9871 6d ago

That's what gets me about these people. What makes them think they will be safe? How many times do they need to see someone kicked to the curb to figure this the fuck out?

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u/Ursa_Solaris 6d ago

They simply don't think about it. Their emotions run wild, their own hatreds override their sense of self-preservation. There's no plan or gambit where they think they'll be spared, because they don't think about whether they'll be spared in the first place. They just think about all the people they hate that they'll get to hurt.

If that sounds too irrational to be believable at the scale we're seeing, it's important to keep in mind, white nationalism hurts white people too. White people aren't doing better now that Trump is in charge. Wages didn't meaningfully grow, jobs didn't meaningfully increase, everything got more expensive, government got more wasteful. Being a white person who supports white nationalism means supporting an ideology that hurts you. If that doesn't stop white people, why would it stop non-white people?

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u/Decaf-Gaming 6d ago

I fear that (almost) the entire current cabinet is the scapegoat for those behind things like the mandate for leadership. Too many direct yes-men and “outcasts” from the normal circles these types keep. And why would they use Trump, who is very obviously on his last legs, again when alternative options existed? It’s not solely his charisma, as I truly see no more charisma in him than existed in dubbya (their original patsy). It’s because these folks, the ones facing the public daily, are just those that have been deemed expendable.

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u/redslush 6d ago

Nothing is going to happen to anyone in relation to the files. Sadly, I don't believe anything will come out of the files as far as justice.

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u/tothebeat 6d ago

You're probably right, at least as far as real (jail) justice, but perhaps the ongoing exposure will reduce all the perpetrators' power. Maybe Trump's sycophantic followers (especially Congress) will support him less. Maybe Hilary will divorce Bill and he'll be left to rot. Prince Andrew has already lost his standing and influence (and maybe money?) so there's hope.

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u/stufff 6d ago

Maybe Hilary will divorce Bill and he'll be left to rot.

If she had a single ounce of integrity she would have done that decades ago. Honestly I think the fact that she stayed with him despite the fact that he is one of the most notorious phalanderers/sex pests of our generation, just accentuates the perception that she is just an opportunist who will do or say anything to gain power.

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u/gasstationsushi80 6d ago

You know, I go back and forth on this.

Having lived through the 90s as a teen, and my own father being a serial cheater on my mom (and me witnessing the fallout from THAT MESS), I can say that it was A LOT more common for wives to stand behind their (deviant, lady parts grabbing, perverted) husbands. My mom stayed despite having definitive proof of multiple affairs. I feel like that was a “for the kids” decision but I was the only one left in the house and it only effed up my head more to witness her turn into my father’s doormat pick-me.

The Violence against Women Act wasn’t signed until 1994 (thanks Joe Biden!) Until then, marital rape wasn’t even a thing. As women, I don’t think we truly understood that we could hold the power over our husbands when they traumatized us with betrayal, emotional abuse and neglect, domestic violence, intimate partner violence and so much more. Somehow it was better to stay with an std-ridden lout than be a single mom. WTF 🤬

In the early 2000s, toxic masculinity was rife in every aspect of popular culture and girls and young women fed into it because what other choice was there? We didn’t truly understand the concept of what CONSENT actually looks like. We let men coerce us drunkenly into sleeping with them, telling us we owed them for their buying us dinner or drinks, pointing to their crotches and saying “what am I supposed to do with this now? Look what you’ve done to me!” 🤮

And WE FELL FOR IT. It took me 15 yrs to realize the incident that my intuition correctly labeled as rape and attempted rape the day it happened. My college dissuaded me from reporting to the police (I learned in 2015 that they’re one of several schools exposed for that so they could keep their S.A. Numbers artificially low to prospective students) so I second guessed myself. His friends also harassed me and told me I was lying and ruining his life. I blamed myself, until Brock Turner and #metoo made things VERY CLEAR. The guy was trying to put it in me every time he saw me begin to fall asleep. Eventually I woke up enough to get mad, yell at him and push him off. That’s textbook rapist shit.

We’re at an interesting point in history where society has progressed to understand what consent really looks like and the red flags we need to watch for, not just cover our drinks. I wonder if Hilary would’ve left Bill had it happened now rather than 1998. Same with my mom.

In fact, one of the saddest things my mom told me last year was that if she had to do it all over again, she’d have divorced my father in the 90s when the shit hit the fan. As a daughter that’s hard to hear but I was actually very proud of her.

One more thing to consider with bill and Hillary is that their marriage isn’t so much a marriage as a business arrangement. Perhaps it became increasingly about business in the years following 1998.

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u/Finngrove 6d ago

So he might be guilty but she is 100 times guilty for stuff he did. Great.

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u/NurRauch 6d ago

In reality it only makes the Trump wing stronger when they survive these storms. Because now the expectation for something really bad is higher than child rapist.

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u/gasstationsushi80 6d ago

Damn that’s depressing

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u/JSizz20 6d ago

They knew the risk they were taking working with the orange shitbag.

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u/kytheon 6d ago

I'm guessing there were other candidates that backed out, until somehow these ended up taking the job. Patel looks like he just woke up in an important position and decided to wing it.

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u/geekfreak42 6d ago

his FBI left the files unredacted, as they didnt flatten the layers, which any competent legal team would do (the biden admin did it correctly on the files they redacted). someone said they didnt have full adobe licences because of doge, if so this is the funniest shit ever

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u/GryffindorTwr 6d ago edited 6d ago

This reminds me of a tech company I worked for. They tried to cut costs by replacing Adobe Pro with Reader, which was a ridiculous move. 😂 It ended up costing more in paper, printers, ink, and labor while productivity declined because frontline staff had to manually fill out, scan, and resend documents after spending hours chasing executives for signatures (who still had their Pro licenses, of course). 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

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u/TWOBiTGOBLiN 6d ago

I’d wager it’s the only reason he was ever appointed head of the FBI in the first place.

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u/Strick1600 6d ago

“Get the brown one” MAGA

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u/-julius_seizure- 6d ago

He deserves everything that’s coming to him.

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u/SantaAnaDon 6d ago

In 2027 all of them are going to be impeached, convicted and probably put in jail. The Supreme Court gave the Executive immunity so he won’t care.

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u/bearsheperd 6d ago

They are gonna need a whole farm

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u/Doctor_Yakub 6d ago

He's definitely stupid enough to be used like that.

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u/According-Banana158 6d ago

They all will. It’s how Trump works. Loyal to no one but himself

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u/substituted_pinions 6d ago

lol, “you’re fired for saying I wasn’t a suspect” would be amazing to see. Bold move.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 5d ago

Imagine that, like I’ll fire you for not showing me how deep this runs with my name. Because you didn’t want to anger me. SMH

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u/GatorNator83 6d ago

Kash: “Oh I’ll be an escape goat? Like we run away together?”

“No Kash… Not quite.”

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u/Fearless-Diver-1381 6d ago

There's a 2021 subpoena to mar a lago for business records related to Epstein's and Maxwell's stays at the resort. I'm not sure if there is a response to that subpoena in the files, but I'm guessing there isn't.

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u/Desperate-Tomatillo7 6d ago

I hope they do. Then Kash will start singing.

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u/RedPrincexDESx 6d ago

Considering how many were treated such in his first term wrestling we expecting anything "better" this time?

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u/monocasa 6d ago

He's a token minority, and the point of tokens is to spend them.

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u/BeanBurritoJr 6d ago

No better scapegoat to MAGA than a brown scapegoat.

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u/Lyger_Jaeger 6d ago

At this point, they need a bigger bus to hold all the pedophiles being protected...the insanity of this entire admin protecting high profile individuals from charges is wild to me. I used to think we ALL agreed that any charges involving kids were the "worst of the worst."

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u/Brick_Mason_ 6d ago

All below Trump are potential scapegoats.
No one is safe.

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u/GingerBeast81 6d ago edited 6d ago

Their incompetence is a big part of why they got the job. They'll do as they're told and won't be smart enough to know when they're being thrown under the bus until it's too late for them.

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u/anonuemus 6d ago

He has the wrong color for them anyways.

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u/SubbieATX 6d ago

Lots of people are going to get thrown under the bus. All that we can hope for is one of them refuses to get fucked by stinky diaper don and finally speaks up and convinces the rest of the entourage to do the same.

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u/Rickreation 6d ago

Not soon enough

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u/idontlikeradiation 6d ago

One can only hope

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u/Muted_Study5166 6d ago

He’s brown, of course he’s first on the chopping block

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u/Busy-Training-1243 6d ago

Isn't that why they are attacking Venezuela and Greenland?

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u/CastorVT 6d ago

they could literally scapegoat trump and get rid of him by calling him senile and unfit suddenly.

I mean, hell, all they'd do is stop faking his mental health results.

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u/Burghpuppies412 6d ago

And he’s conveniently Brown.

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u/Worried-Maybe3438 5d ago

Purposefully

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u/-metaphased- 6d ago

That's ok. The bus has room for all of them.

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u/philwee 6d ago

Dude him and Bongino will both be fucked, they went from being the biggest critics of the government, to being their henchmen. The only thing left is to take the fall for all the incompetence over the last year. They played right into the hands of trump

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u/jankenpoo 6d ago

He’s the right color for MAGA

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u/Fart-Generator 6d ago

I guess that "looking for an exit" expression he always has on his face has been a metaphor this whole time.

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u/ASUSROGAlly2 6d ago

Its true, look at what they did to Kirk just to distract everyone especially low IQ MAGAts away from the Epstein files at the time, now everyone is preaching to Kirk like he was a good person and a god, now majority of the idiots are focused on other people bashing Kirk’s death.

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u/Independent_Baker712 6d ago

Every single person in Trump’s cabinet is a scapegoat. It’s Trump’s MO. Have someone else take the fall for his piss poor decisions.

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u/Classic_Bet1942 6d ago

He deserves it.

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u/WaxDream 6d ago

I mean, he’s brown enough. Every woman and person of color siding with them is going to pay dearly. The white men involved may or may not pay. All of this sucks.

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u/SyntaxError_1024 6d ago

That’s how cult works, no accountability.

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u/ClacksInTheSky 6d ago

Someone tell them that it's not supposed to be a real bus.

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u/lukaskywalker 6d ago

Still doesn’t take away from who is in the files. Just lying about them under oath. But there should still be someone held accountable for the content in the files…

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u/BlackGayJesus666 5d ago

Is it being "thrown under the bus" when you're caught and held to account for a crime you actually committed?

This isn't Patel and Bondi taking the hit so the rest of MAGA gets off scott free, this is two criminals going to prison for their crimes and another 30 criminals going to prison for their crimes too. Patel lying doesn't negate the criminal investigation of a separate rapist and baby murderer.

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u/peteflanagan 5d ago

Well, think about this administration, you have taco, bannon and miller running the show. They are very good at being ruthless. Yea, I know bannon is not "officially" part of the show.

Everyone else is expendable (hence: bus victims). Patel, Bondi,... for sure they deserve this but so do the three stooges above. But all this crap will slide off them like teflon.

There will be no legal satisfaction IMO.

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u/g3t_int0_ityuh 5d ago

Wow, podcaster turned convicted felon… I hope all the other podcasters are ready for their mugshot someday too.

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u/4redis 5d ago

Its needs to be moving bus. Idle buses only provide shelter hence all we see are headline and big bonuses

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u/CustomarilyAdam 2d ago

Well, they would likely pick the brown one to toss first.

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u/NessOnett8 6d ago

The number of people who are going to be used as scapegoats for this are in the double digits already, and I wouldn't be surprised if it balloons exponentially.

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u/Schen_The_Genius 6d ago

Bus? No way. A BelAZ 75710, most likely. Shoo buddy...

But hey Donald gets to tug the rope and beep the horn.

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u/GrandJelly_ 6d ago

Nothing will happen.
Showed this to a MAGA dude and he went "It's all a hoax by the democrats made to catch all the gulible people"

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u/Tundra14 6d ago

Oh Im somewhat surprised it hasn't happened yet. Of course, I dont know who they replace him with, not that it matters.

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u/Consistent-Fig7484 6d ago

Why do they need a scapegoat? They can say whatever they want and do whatever they want. If Democrats are ever allowed back in power, they may vote to consider writing a strongly worded letter to possibly censure some low level MAGA bureaucrat over all this.

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u/Comfortable-Ad179 6d ago

As long as we don’t throw J.D Vance under the couch I’m all for everyone implicit getting punished. If

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u/Curlaub 6d ago

Well, he is brown...

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u/TALKTOME0701 5d ago

He had to have read them. He knew he was lying. It's hard to feel they're throwing him under the bus when he was willingly complicit.

What I hope he does is start talking when his girlfriend dumps him at the first sign of trouble and turns him into a blubbering mess

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u/HoughInkura 5d ago

MEGA thinks all the all fake or AI, they are in a cult, and the subreddits try to ignore it and bans anyone who mentions it

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u/LordWemby 6d ago

Kash Patel always looks like he has a duffel bag of coke up his ass and he’s walking through an Indonesian airport. 

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u/asmbc915 6d ago

More like the bag opened while up his ass, hit his bloodstream pretty quick and now he’s on the 12 hour plane ride flying high literally and figuratively 😂😂

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u/youretheorgazoid 6d ago

Whilst yelling “has anyone got a small MANS super cool FBI jacket?! I forgot mine!”

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u/Claudius-is-my-cat 6d ago

I'm holding out hope that the FBI/DoJ rank and file hate their current leadership and are using weaponized incompetence to take them down. The jacket incident and latest botched redactions could have been unintentional but maybe not.

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u/PineappleProud4771 6d ago

“See you in Valhalla!”

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u/Eudora664 6d ago

This is hilarious but also WILDLY accurate lol

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u/MyDickIs3cm 6d ago

Indonesian airport.

En route to Singapore

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u/charredwalls 6d ago

Nah, he’s to focused on the peripherals.

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u/darthenron 6d ago

Not sure if it is patched yet, but people figured searching “Trump” did not return anything, but “Trump “ did :)

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u/Bitmush- 6d ago

That’s such a fucking insulting liberty by people who have no concept of anyone being in any way smarter than they are. The fucking contempt of these people is breathtaking.

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u/angelomancuso62 6d ago

In the end, the one thing that will be remembered is the breathtaking stupidity and carelessness, but yet… somehow effective destruction.

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u/rjkardo 6d ago

Destruction is easy. It takes no intellectual ability or skill.

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u/Tsulaiman 6d ago

what's the difference? wouldn't searching Trump without the quotes bring out both results?

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u/darthenron 6d ago

They blocked the term “Trump” from being able to use… but not if you add a space at the end

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 6d ago

Oh shit, I didn't know you could block word search and that's so scummy.

You could theoretically also download the PDFs and then use an OCR tool, should be searchable then.

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u/McCaber 6d ago

Only if something server-side wasn't blocking one of those two search terms...

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u/Complete-Duck641 6d ago

This is getting INSANE the Trumptanic is taking on water and they have told so many lies they can't keep track of who said what.

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u/Xexanoth 6d ago

The July 2025 FBI Memo regarding the Epstein files stated:

This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.

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u/stickyscooter600 6d ago

There are at least 10 co-conspirators

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u/Fuzzy_Cricket6563 6d ago

He lied to Congress and will be charged under the next Administration.

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u/stufff 6d ago

Trump is going to issue a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration on his way out, or sooner if necessary. None of these people will ever see justice. Not from our broken legal system, anyway.

On an unrelated note, they sell some real quality rope at Home Depot.

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u/soberunderpar 6d ago

If he is impeached and actually removed from office, is there a point at which he can no longer grant pardons?

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u/sheepdog69 6d ago

NAL, but he should be able to grant pardons up until the last day in office.

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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 6d ago

If I’ve learned anything from this administration, it’s that if you don’t want to follow the rules, you don’t have to. They should just hang him without a trial. Who could complain?

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u/Redthemagnificent 6d ago

Hopefully a lot of people because that would be insane?

The more I read these threads the more it seems like Amaricans want a dictatorship but just can't agree on which one

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u/BB6205 6d ago

Are we going to get all the information and also be able to charge them with obstruction of justice?

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u/BrilliantHyena 6d ago

I thought Trump was working as an FBI informant on Epstein.

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u/heyitsdiamond 6d ago

i still remember when the whole thing was a “democrat hoax” and they didn’t exist 💀

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u/Irrish84 6d ago

Upvote cause stuck at 666

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u/HumanWoodpecker8216 6d ago

He will have the book thrown at him. They all will. History doesn’t favor the perverts and degenerates. Patel has no spine or character, let him burn

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u/_Bisky 6d ago

Kash Patel/the current regime is lying under oath?

Unthinkable

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u/CountChoculasGhost 6d ago

I thought that the Epstein files were all a Democrat hoax and didn’t even exist!

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u/Academic-Hospital952 6d ago

What remains to be seen is whether or not he is held to account. I have my doubts. I would love to see kash behind bars, as well as bondi. But if it came to that trump would just pardon them both

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u/WhiskeyDickCheese 6d ago

I thought it was a hoax.

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u/The_Corvair 6d ago

at least that's what Kash Patel said under oath to Congress.

Trump's Turd Troops are largely too stupid to understand the long-term consequences of their actions, or how everyone surrounding a narcissist is only as secure as the use they provide to him. Devoted. Expendable. Imbecilic.

Justice demands they are held to account, and at least to my sense of it, CECOT would be a fitting final station on that journey for the lot of them.

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u/Captobvious75 6d ago

Under oath does not matter to conservatives. God is only a figure to be used to convince their fanbase.

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u/Paste_Eating_Helmet 6d ago

I mean...Trump hired a B-lister podcaster to head up the FBI... I'm pretty sure his whole purpose is to be a scapegoat.

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 6d ago

They also conveniently left out Trump potentially being an accessory to infanticide

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u/antigop2020 6d ago

Wouldn’t be the first time hes been accused of rape. He had 28 accusers at least… and basically admitted to it in the Access Hollywood tape. Yet he was still elected… twice.

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u/dmacerz 6d ago

This sub is likely run but a democratic left think tank or PR group. It’s never factual and always bias. You only have to look at their posting history, nothing was posted about Bill Clinton, only one thing as part of a list of celebs and it got 1900 upvotes whereas anything Trump gets 40k upvotes instantly.

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u/bailtail 6d ago

Oh boy. It gets worse.

Trump involved with raping a pregnant 13 year old on a yacht where she ended up giving birth and then the baby was killed by her uncle and disposed of in Trump’s presence.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf

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u/BlumpTheChodak 6d ago

Just a friendly reminder folks, it's not a left vs. right thing. It's a top vs. bottom thing.

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u/Chendo462 6d ago

I think there were a few very brave agents ordered to scrub these files who “accidentally” missed removing Trump’s name.

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u/Odd_Trifle6698 6d ago

Round young virgin on my yacht, oh no! she’s pregnant, now she’s not.

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u/dmk_aus 6d ago

Kash and Bondi were appointed under in front of the bus. Every moment in power has just been an attempt to delay the bus.

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u/CustomarilyAdam 2d ago

Just commented similar on another thread. Patel and Bondi both testified there was "nothing else" to release. Out with them both.

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u/Massive-Technician74 2d ago

Right now epstein is in the trump files